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November 12

Jellyfish - Ignorance is Bliss

Hello, I recently heard this beautiful song, but the problem is, that my only favorite parts are 0:00 - 0:15 because of the smooth, emotional jazz beat, was this sampled from some another song? or is there a song with a very similar sound as in the intro or the same? I don't like it until in the end again cause of that emotional instrumental part. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlC6i6DPdnU (this is the song.) Thank you.

November 13

Movie name

There was a movie that I watched many years ago when I was little. I can't quite remember the name. The movie is probably made in 1990s or 2000s. The movie is set in the future, where humans are nearly wiped out by those flying red (or orange, don't remember exactly) creatures. They look very much like a flying red or orange soul, and they can kill humans by going through their bodies. The humans fight them by using some robot suits that resembles those in "Edge of Tomorrow", except it's a lot bigger if I remember correctly. There were also some laser guns. There is a safe city (likely the last safe place) for humans that is carefully guarded. Everything someone goes out of the area, before they can come back in, they have to go through some scanning processes. In the end, the flying creatures somehow successfully breached into the last safe city and nearly killed everyone. If I remember correct, there are about 1-2 people surviving at the end. Any name suggestion is appreciated. I can check and confirm any name being suggested. Thanks! 146.151.83.253 (talk) 03:43, 13 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

never mind my question. I found the name of it already lol.146.151.83.253 (talk) 05:47, 13 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

It might be helpful if you post the title here. That way your question and answer can still help inform others. SemanticMantis (talk) 17:22, 13 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

It would be especially useful to those of us who are dying to know what a flying red or orange soul looks like. —08:25, 14 November 2014 (UTC)

For anyone still waiting ;) - Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within would be a good bet, fitting all mentioned criteria. Google image search has a few images of the "ghosts". GermanJoe (talk) 05:17, 18 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Baseball statistical leaders as of a certain date

Is there anywhere online that lets you view MLB seasonal statistical leaderboards on a specific mid-season date (e.g. who had played the most games or gotten the most hits as of September 1, 1965)? I figured baseball-reference would offer this feature, but if it does, I wasn't able to find it. Any sort of indirect workaround, like a way to find this information for a particular statistic for a particular player one at a time, would also be welcome. Thanks in advance! -Elmer Clark (talk) 19:00, 13 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I haven't done any digging, but http://www.retrosheet.org/ is pretty good for baseball stats. --Jayron32 19:16, 13 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

If you can find a daily newspaper that regularly publishes the statistics you want, you could look for the September 2, 1965, issue of that paper at a public or university library. They may have it on microfilm or in scanned form. (Scanned back issues of some papers can also be found on the web, but generally only smaller ones unless you can access them through a library you belong to.) --174.88.134.249 (talk) 23:19, 13 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I'm quite familiar with both retrosheet.org and baseball-reference,com, and unfortunately neither site has this information. With B-Ref, you can find the standings for any date in major league history (here are the results for September 1, 1965 [1]), but there is no feature that allows you to look up the statistical leaders on that date. If you have a lot of time on your hands, both sites have game-by-game statistical breakdowns for a most seasons, so you could generate the information for a specific date by simply looking up what the stats for each player in the league were on that day. The data exists, it's just that no one has yet designed a program to generate the information in the form you want. The designers of Baseball-reference love to find new ways to use the databases they have compiled, however, so you may contact them and see if they could help out (there is a contact form on the site). --Xuxl (talk) 15:10, 14 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

A good bet might be to contact the Elias Sports Bureau. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 18:41, 18 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

November 14

One Direction

Does anyone in One Direction write their own songs or play their own instruments? --SolliGwaa (talk) 20:52, 14 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

If you open the article about any One Direction album, you can look to see who the songwriters for every song are. Their first album Up All Night (One Direction album) has songs the members wrote or co-wrote. Insofar as voice is an actual instrument, they also do that as well. --Jayron32 00:38, 15 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Worth noting that credits on an album don't actually mean much. At that level, contributing the change of a word is enough to get co-writing points on the album. See, for example, Madonna's Ray of Light album--William Orbit wrote virtually every note, but she gets a credit for small pieces added. Album credits are much like movie credits--the bigger the act, the more credits they will receive on the final product. Ipsissima Verba (talk) 05:16, 15 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

They have a regular touring band - here, here, etc. - who tour with them and provide onstage instrumentation. Ghmyrtle (talk) 08:56, 15 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Avid Directioner here bc what else is a teenage fangirl to do, but I know for certain having attended multiple concerts that Niall Horan, the Irish left-handed lad who's scared of pigeons, frequently plays guitar on stage. zayn is still bae tho ~Helicopter Llama~ 01:26, 18 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

November 16

sports

I would like to have an article on the topic. "sports for girls in the ancient days" and "sports for girls in the modern days". --Sadie666 (talk) 06:28, 16 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Sports for girls in the modern days would be a very short article that simply says "All of them". —Nelson Ricardo (talk) 06:36, 16 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

We have an article on Women's sports. The section on ancient civilizations requires expansion.--Shantavira|^{feed me} 12:00, 16 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I was going to object that there's no women's decathlon, Nelson, but apparently there is. We also have a Timeline of women's sports, but it lists nothing before 1780 and suffers from rather poor coverage of women's sports outside of America. --Antiquary (talk) 14:10, 16 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I recently saw a contestant on a quiz show talking about the 1970s, which was, according to her, "before they had electricity". So, in her world view, 1780 is truly ancient. -- Jack of Oz ^{[pleasantries]} 20:17, 16 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

On a different tack from the "inclusion of women in previously all-male sports" line, rhythmic gymnastics and synchronized swimming are strictly women's sports at the hightest level (i.e., the Olympics). Deor (talk) 22:06, 16 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Women do not participate in professional sumo wrestling. Apparently there used to be "a form of female sumo or onnazumo" though "in the cities it was more of a spectacle often associated with brothels", according to our article on controversies in professional sumo, subsection "Women and sumo". ---Sluzzelin talk 22:24, 16 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Sadie! The great thing about Wikipedia is that it's an encyclopedia that anyone can create and edit - including you. Have a look through Women's sports and the associated pages and talk pages to get an idea of scope and format and so on. The, be WP:BOLD and try writing an article yourself. I highly suggest you do so within your own personal sandbox, here (basically it's a safe area for you to play around in while you figure out how things work). Also, give a look WP:YOURFIRSTARTICLE for some great tips. After you're done some reading and thinking, you may decide to just expand an existing article instead - and that's great too! Matt Deres (talk) 17:14, 17 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

November 17

mtg: are planeswalkers' mana source abilities usable only during main phases?

mtg: are planeswalkers' mana source abilities usable only during main phases? thanx --192.35.17.11 (talk) 18:20, 17 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Translation, please. -- Jack of Oz ^{[pleasantries]} 18:50, 17 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

"mtg" = Magic: The Gathering, "planeswalkers" = powerful wizard-type character in the game, "mana" = magic points or units of magical power, "main phase" = part of turn between the "beginning phase" and the "combat phase". No idea on the answer. ---Sluzzelin talk 18:58, 17 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

This forum says "Activated abilities of planeswalkers can only be played when you could play a sorcery. So no, you can't play it during your opponent's turn." [2], [3] - I think this is basically the same as main phase, because I don't think you can play a sorcery outside of main phase. But I haven't played the game in over a decade, so you might want to ask at a specific MTG forum, like one of the two I linked above. SemanticMantis (talk) 20:38, 17 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Strangely enough, we have an article on it: Magic: The Gathering rules#Planeswalkers says "a single planeswalker may only use one loyalty ability once per turn, and only on its controller's turn during his or her main phase." Organics ^talk 09:55, 18 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

November 18

bringing me down down

Hi there,
I‘ve heard on the radio a song,
That its chords goes like this:
Bringing me down down.
A female sings it and then she shouts and on the background
males sing "down down". Does anyone recognise?

"Bringing Me Down" from Jefferson Airplane Takes Off? ---Sluzzelin talk 11:11, 18 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

"Don't Bring Me Down" by ELO? It's a male singer, but a lot of it is in falsetto. Matt Deres (talk) 14:25, 18 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Sort of reminiscent of "Falling Away From Me". Like ELO, not a woman, but sometimes sounds like one. The lyric is actually "beating me down, down" in that one, but maybe.

Less likely is 311's "Down". I haven't listened to much radio from this decade, but here are several more songs named "Down" you might want to check. InedibleHulk (talk) 15:06, November 18, 2014 (UTC)

Weird. I checked a few Down articles out from that link, and edited one for repetition. The byte count went down by 311. Also happened to be 3:11 pm, UTC. InedibleHulk (talk) 15:15, November 18, 2014 (UTC)

Hypothetical Situation

Wilson lives alone in a House.

In America, two American officers are informed that a Terrorist is living inside a particular House, which belongs to Wilson.

When Wilson opens the door, the Officers use Self-Defense to shoot Wilson in the Shoulder becuz Wilson was holding a (Dangerous Weapon aka Hammer).

The American Officers find a Piece of Paper which reveals that Wilson is a New Tenant.

Bassically, the Actual Terrorist escaped Unfortunately.

But the shooting was in self-defense due to Wilson's hammer.

Since Wilson was holding a Hammer, it’s because Wilson wanted to attack his (Annoying Friend who keeps asking for a Commission Price) but Wilson didn’t expect the Cops to be there.

Wilson is still alive.

In this situation, can the (American Officers) & (Wilson) be charged with any crime?(50.173.3.170 (talk) 15:48, 18 November 2014 (UTC)).[reply]

This desk doesn't offer legal advice or predictions. Even if we could, there are enough missing details that the best guess would be "Maybe."

In an actual (though Canadian) case of cops vs hammer man this year, they were not charged. But that's a different story. InedibleHulk (talk) 15:51, November 18, 2014 (UTC)

Here's a hammer shooting from Phoenix. And Albuquerque. And Potomac Mills. And Lynchburg. Something to consider. InedibleHulk (talk) 16:05, November 18, 2014 (UTC)

20:56, 18 November 2014 (UTC)71.186.150.94 (talk)== arlene francis ==

What do you mean maybe? How come you can't say yes or no for whether American Officers can get Charged? What about the Indian Movie called Shock? In that movie, why were the Officers worried about getting Arrested for shooting a Man in Self-Defense due to the Hammer?(50.173.3.170 (talk) 10:07, 19 November 2014 (UTC)).[reply]

Whenever a cop kills someone (or even fires their gun), there's an internal review. Depending on the info this review finds, he might be charged or might not. Cops are legally allowed to use force on the job, even deadly force. It only becomes a problem for the courts when it's excessive force. Who's reviewing the shooting, which state they're in, what the prosecutor feels like doing and the political climate of the time can all influence the decision, after the facts are found. So maybe. InedibleHulk (talk) 20:21, November 19, 2014 (UTC)

Here are a bunch of examples. Mostly no hammers, but all controversial. InedibleHulk (talk) 20:25, November 19, 2014 (UTC)

It might have helped if you told us that you were talking about a specific film that you had seen. Someone who has seen the film might be able to give a better answer since they know the factors involved in the movie as presented by the writers.

As far as the "Maybe" answer that you've received, there are too many unknown factors.

And for anyone who may want to venture a guess, the OP is possibly referring to either Shock (2004 film) or Shock (2006 film). I can't tell from our plot outlines which might have involved a shooting. Dismas|^(talk) 11:31, 19 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I'm talking about Shock(2006 telugu film). Why didn't those Indian Officers just say that they shot the Indian Dude in Self-Defense due to the Hammer? Why did those Indian Officers have to frame that Indian Dude as a Terrorist?(50.173.3.170 (talk) 09:27, 21 November 2014 (UTC)).[reply]

Because the screenwriter(s) chose to do it that way. If he/she/they hadn't, likely the story would have seemed less entertaining.

Fiction isn't mathematics, and doesn't have to correspond with what is most likely (or actually happened) in real life: it just has to seem plausible at the moment you're consuming it. Even films based on real events often deviate considerably from what actually happened so as to form a "better story" within the confines of the film.

The degree to which you see plot implausibilities while you're watching may be one measure of a film's quality, so you're entitled to judge that the film was a poor one. If the implausibilities only occur to you after the film's over, that doesn't matter because the theatre (or whoever) has already got your money. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 212.95.237.92 (talk) 14:19, 21 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Very true. If you're sitting in the theater saying to yourself, "Why are they doing that?", that falls into what Siskel & Ebert used to call "the idiot plot". For example, No Country for Old Men had, to my mind while wztching it, an "idiot plot". The performances were good, though, which helped. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 16:05, 21 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

November 19

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What genre is the song "Emo skater girl (Thrillville)"?

What genre is it? I wish I can find other songs like it. 71.79.234.132 (talk) 01:10, 19 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Here's a youtube link with lyrics for convenience [4]. Genre classification can always be a bit contentious. I would call it a type of garage rock (fuzzed guitar, simple arrangements, slightly aggressive, small band, etc), though of course we also have a whole article on the genre known as Emo. I would recommend Weezer as having a similar (and better IMO) sound. E.g. Buddy_Holly_(song) [5], which also happens to have a video directed by the great Spike Jonze. SemanticMantis (talk) 15:29, 19 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Metroidvania fans--Nonlinear Games Question

Hello all, being a fan on Nonlinear games, I have come to prefer side-scroller games over 3-d(although I still like them).

But I have a question. While we all know that Metroid anything is nonlinear, including first person shooters, do first person shooters themselves qualify as "nonlinear"? Just wanted to know, some shooters I've played are very linear, so i thought I'd ask. M^M 19:54, 19 November 2014 (UTC)

If all things Metroid are nonlinear, and some things Metroid are first person shooters, all things first person shooter aren't linear. InedibleHulk (talk) 20:10, November 19, 2014 (UTC)

Simple and accurate, though as I mention below, I think selling Other M as "nonlinear" is a tough argument to make. SemanticMantis (talk) 20:16, 19 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know, haven't played a Metroid since the first one. As of yesterday, Grand Theft Auto V is first person, and I can't imagine anybody calling that linear. Not sure what Castlevania II was. Sucked, anyway. InedibleHulk (talk) 20:31, November 19, 2014 (UTC)

"Linearity" in games usually refers to the order in which objectives must be reached, or the number of paths through a level. So Castlevania I is very linear, while Symphony of the Night is very non-linear. "First person shooter" really just means that the camera is behind the eyes, and that things will be shot. So, classic FPS like Doom of Castle Wolfenstein are very linear, one level at a time, no real choices on how to move through the level. But genres get very blurry. For example, Fallout 3 and Fallout New Vegas are designed for mostly first-person play, and you shoot things, so it could be called an FPS, even though there is an over-the-shoulder camera mode. But they also have open worlds that allow for exploring things and getting things in different orders, so they are nonlinear. Finally, the character development and story make them fall into the RPG category. So it's fair to say that Fallout 3 is an RPG with FPS and nonlinear sandbox elements.

Beware of the No true Scotsman fallacy, some people might say Metroid Prime is not an FPS because it has lock-on and isn't as twitchy as Halo -- but they are wrong. The point is, in modern gaming, it's better and more clear to describe elements of gameplay than to fit things into somewhat outdated genre boxes. For example, Metroid Other M is fairly linear, in my opinion, even though it is a Metroid game... Some FPS are highly linear in gameplay, some are highly nonlinear, and the FPS attribute doesn't say anything about linearity of gameplay. SemanticMantis (talk) 20:16, 19 November 2014 (UTC) P.S. check out cave story if you haven't already :)[reply]

Thank you.it's much more clear...well, a little. So, in this sense, now that you explain it, I'd say FPS is more of a "art" form, think anime. You can really have any type of game in FPS form, but it's still FPS. Makes sense, right?M^M 17:39, 20 November 2014 (UTC)

Naively, FPS just means two things, the perspective and the shooting. So sure, we could have an FPS puzzle game where you shoot chickens at buttons to solve puzzles. Or an FPS racing game where you run around and try to shoot the leader so you can pass. You get the idea. Again, the issue is with defining genre with respect to tools of presentation vs. with respect to gameplay mechanics. Anime is sort of a decent example, because there is Anime action, comedy, romance etc. Anime just means it was drawn, and made in Japan. So it's not really a genre, more of a presentation method. Just remember most genre classification is subjective, there's usually not one right answer, that's why people like to debate it so much :) SemanticMantis (talk) 20:14, 20 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

A game like Skyrim is so non-linear, you can either shoot in first person, slash in third or harvest potatoes in top-down view (the way it's meant to be played) the entire way through. That one's hard to stick a label on. As is Duck Hunt. We don't see hands or hear one-liners, but we're presumably seeing through the eyes of a mysterious character lying very still, whose dog doesn't respect him (or her). InedibleHulk (talk) 01:35, November 21, 2014 (UTC)

And therein lies a problem: people usually wouldn't call Skyrim an FPS, even though you can shoot stuff from a first person view. Instead, it usually gets called an (action)RPG, I think mostly because FPS has gotten associated with twitchy action gameplay, even though it shouldn't have, IMO. SemanticMantis (talk) 15:25, 21 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

When I see anything that looks like Call of Duty, I just call it a CoD. Even Halo. But yeah, genres are tricky in all media and trying to nail them down (especially online) can get scary. What's really terrifying is the potential confusion of Little Big Planet 3. Even in the first one's early days, someone used the tools that were supposed to make Mario platforms rise to build a damn calculator. InedibleHulk (talk) 17:23, November 21, 2014 (UTC)

I think the worst game genre for useless debate is "roguelike" -- if you check reddit.com/r/roguelikes, they can hardly go a day without screaming at each other over what games qualify :) SemanticMantis (talk) 17:34, 21 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Ha! "Roguelike-like". How "post-postmodern". Diablo II had a cool "world fusion" soundtrack. InedibleHulk (talk) 19:15, November 21, 2014 (UTC)

November 20

audio home stereo amplifiers

I tried to find out my question in a few articles and could not find it. my home stereo audio amplifier sais 320 watts on the back of it. does that mean 320 watts per channel?

Unless it specifically says so, probably not. That could well be the total power consumption. I suggest you search the manufacturer's website (or simply Google the make and model) for the specification of that particular model.--Shantavira|^{feed me} 09:10, 20 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Can't find the name of this song

At the 17:51 mark here [6] Thanks much!^{Market St.⧏}_{⧐ Diamond Way} 11:26, 20 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

You could write to the show's organizers, or try a music recognition app like soundhound or shazam [7]. SemanticMantis (talk) 16:07, 20 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Early choral music with jazz trumpet or soprano saxophone accompaniment

About 10-15 years ago, there was a recording issued of early choral music which had a (modern) jazz trumpet accompaniment, often soaring above the singers. The singers were I believe one of the 'standard' UK early music groups, I once managed to write down the name of the composer (possibly Spanish or Spanish-sounding), but lost the name. The piece was frequently used as a 'filler' on UK's Radio 3 (classical station), but not knowing composer/name of piece/choral group or trumpeter, I've never managed to track it down. Make my Xmas someone! What was it? Pincrete (talk) 22:46, 20 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Are you sure it was a trumpet and not a soprano saxophone? I'm asking because Jan Garbarek recorded a couple of albums with the Hilliard Ensemble. The first one was titled Officium, recorded in 1994, and begins with a composition by Cristóbal de Morales. ---Sluzzelin talk 01:09, 21 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I think you are probably right, the composer name sounds 'right-ish', thinking about it sop sax is more likely as the tone/register is 'light' and capable of blending with/rising above the high voices, which trumpet would be too dark to do. Many thanks I am amending title so that the question archives more helpfully. Pincrete (talk) 10:26, 21 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

It might well have been them but interpreting a different Spanish composer.

In case you're interested, Trio Mediæval have been performing with Arve Henriksen on trumpet (though not until recently, so that's definitely not what you had heard). This Guardian review links the project to that of Garbarek + Hilliard Ensemble (there is the Norwegian connection too of course). A unique and breathy sounding trumpet, far out of the usual range of acoustic trumpet sound (so one could argue it sounds even less like a trumpet than Garbarek's soprano saxophone does :-). Listen to him on pocket trumpet with the Trio Mediæval here, for example. ---Sluzzelin talk 15:57, 21 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I'm outside UK these days, so cut off from Grauniad/Radio 3/good record shops, but will explore your tip. I often DETEST 'cross-overs',(neither fish nor fowl), but the Hilliard/sax I heard, quite inexplicably 'worked'. I'll check-out your suggestion. Many many thanks. Pincrete (talk) 17:24, 21 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

November 21

American academic anthem

I was watching The House on 92nd Street recently, and when they cut to a view of a university (sorry, I don't know which one) the soundtrack orchestra played a familiar melody, I just don't know what it is. I've heard it in Hollywood films before, sometimes with a choir, when the scene changes to a university. Sorry I can't be more specific, but does this mean anything to anyone? Alansplodge (talk) 21:57, 21 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Can you find it on youtube or someplace? ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 22:05, 21 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Just a guess: look up gaudeamus igitur and see if it's that. --65.94.50.4 (talk) 22:37, 21 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

That's the one! Not just in the USA then. Thanks. Apologies Bugs, but the elderly PC I'm using has given up on the sound front at the moment, but I realise that it would have been more helpful to add a link. Alansplodge (talk) 00:10, 22 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved

I must disagree. I believe that it is Pomp and Circumstance Marches#March No. 1 in D. The article includes a recording. (When the built-in speakers on my old laptop died, I could still get sound through the headphone jack.) —Nelson Ricardo (talk) 05:01, 23 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Which article? ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 05:06, 23 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Um . . . the article I linked to? —Nelson Ricardo (talk) 05:30, 23 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I know what "Gaudeamus Igitur" and "Pomp and Circumstance" sound like. What I'd like to see, if it's available, is a clip of the usage of whichever song, in that film or TV show. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 06:40, 23 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Here, at 6' 46 (I linked to the spot). Clearly "Gaudeamus". ---Sluzzelin talk 09:09, 23 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, for sure. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 15:08, 23 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Followup question: What is the building seen in that clip? ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 15:15, 23 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

A Neo-Romanesque building, not unsimilar to Glatfelter Hall (part of Gettysburg College) or Thompson Hall, but I couldn't locate it. Maybe even Richardsonian Romanesque, but I'm no expert. onthesetofnewyork.com has a page on THo92St, but doesn't mention the supposed university building shown with the music. This might get more attention as a new question at the Humanities desk. ---Sluzzelin talk 17:04, 23 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Aha, it's Altgeld Hall! ---Sluzzelin talk 17:16, 23 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The only thing against that theory is that "Land of Hope and Glory" is one of the most famous tunes ever written, and is particularly renowned in Alansplodge's Britain, where it has assumed the status of an unofficial national anthem. I'd be very surprised if Mr Splodge did not know it almost ab utero. That alone suggests the one he's after is something else. -- Jack of Oz ^{[pleasantries]} 06:00, 23 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Quite right. I can even recite the words from memory. [8] Even though my computer won't play me the tune, I took the trouble to Google the sheet music [9], and my rather elementary sight reading skills confirmed that "Gaudeamus Igitur" is indeed the melody in question. Thanks for your interest everybody. Alansplodge (talk) 14:52, 23 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I'm sorry for leading you astray, but as an American, hearing someone refer to "American academic anthem" brings to mind "Pomp and Circumstance". I've never even heard of "Gaudeamus Igitur", and it sounds thoroughly unfamiliar to me. —Nelson Ricardo (talk) 17:08, 23 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

"Gaudeamus Igitur" is probably not so well known in America now. But it certainly was in the 1950s when Tom Lehrer wrote "Bright College Days", which included this line: "Turn on the spigot / Pour the beer and swig it / And Gaudeamus Igit- / a-tur!" ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 21:40, 23 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

We Britons are not given to ostentatious displays of patriotism, but look what Elgar does to us! (if you're in a hurry, cut straight to the 3 minute mark). Alansplodge (talk) 19:40, 23 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

That bit was a little misleading (sorry, Alan). It's obviously in Latin, hardly the first language that springs to mind when thinking of American universities; and Western Europe is where it has been famous since the late 13th century. So much so that when Johannes Brahms chose some well-known university tunes to quote in his Academic Festival Overture, written to thank the University of Breslau for conferring on him an honorary degree, "Gaudeamus igitur" was at the top of the list, and it formed the triumphant climax of the work. Gaudeamus igitur lists a pile of universities where it is still regularly sung, including 6 or 7 American ones. Here's Lenny B "using the music to accompany his conducting performance" (the whole thing is recommended, but if you absolutely have to cut to the tune in question, it comes in at around 9:05). -- Jack of Oz ^{[pleasantries]} 19:05, 23 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Apparently it's also used in ceremonies at both Oxford and Cambridge, but I didn't work hard enough to get to university, hence my surprising (to me at least) ignorance. In my defence, our article has a long list of Hollywood films that include the tune, and I've added The House on 92nd Street. I've also had a bash at improving the historical information, since a quick Google quickly showed that it wasn't as old as we were telling people it was (mostly late 18th century rather than 13th century). It's funny the paths that the RefDesk can lead you down.... Alansplodge (talk) 19:40, 23 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

And some people try and claim the Ref Desk serves no useful purpose and should be shut down. Phooey! to them. -- Jack of Oz ^{[pleasantries]} 21:07, 23 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hear, hear! Alansplodge (talk) 21:50, 23 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

song

15 - 20 years ago I used to hear a song on my local public radio station about estate sales, something about "going through dead peoples' houses..." Any ideas abut song title or singer(s)?

Would it be this (top Google result for "going through dead peoples' houses")? Two recordings of it, by the song's composer and by Melanie, are noted at the bottom of the page. Deor (talk) 12:38, 22 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Jean-Claude VanDamme

I have been watching his documentary "Behind Closed Doors" He kept talking of a fight he wanted to do with Olympic Champ. Want to know if it ever happened, is it going to happen, what's going on with that ?

thanks, Cindy

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 :::::::::Apparently it's also used in ceremonies at both Oxford and Cambridge, but I didn't work hard enough to get to university, hence my surprising (to me at least) ignorance. In my defence, our article has a long list of Hollywood films that include the tune, and I've added ''The House on 92nd Street''. I've also had a bash at improving the historical information, since a quick Google quickly showed that it wasn't as old as we were telling people it was (mostly late 18th century rather than 13th century). It's funny the paths that the RefDesk can lead you down.... [[User:Alansplodge|Alansplodge]] ([[User talk:Alansplodge|talk]]) 19:40, 23 November 2014 (UTC)
 :::::::::: And some people try and claim the Ref Desk serves no useful purpose and should be shut down.  Phooey! to them.  --  [[User:JackofOz|<font face="Papyrus">Jack of Oz</font>]] [[User talk:JackofOz#top|<span style="font-size:85%"><font face="Verdana" ><sup>[pleasantries]</sup></font></span>]] 21:07, 23 November 2014 (UTC)
+:::::::::::[[Hear, hear]]!  [[User:Alansplodge|Alansplodge]] ([[User talk:Alansplodge|talk]]) 21:50, 23 November 2014 (UTC)
 == song ==