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== Law School Transparency ==
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==This is not forum shopping, but rather a seperate issue. Another poster at the Reliable Source Noticeboard responded to my post there by stating that the large number of entries from and about Law School Transparency (which is closely connected to Spivey Consulting) suggested that LST was spammy and the IP should be banned. I am responding to that suggestion by entering a notice here. Epeefleche has responded with extreme incivility and dishonesty in the other discussion board, [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&offset=20160101000000&limit=500&tagfilter=&contribs=user&target=Epeefleche&namespace= engaged in retaliatory edits of wikipedia pages for sources that suggested that Law School Transparency was not a reliable source], and removed notices of problems with tabloid blog sources that he liked before citing to them. He edited the Wikipedia page for one source, Brian Leiter, and a related page more than 20 times in the space of 3 days. Take a look at [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&offset=20160101000000&limit=500&tagfilter=&contribs=user&target=Epeefleche&namespace= Epeefleche's edit history]. His inappropriate conduct and overly emotional defense of LST (and attacks on anyone critical of LST) are transparent.[[User:Unemployed Northeastern|Unemployed Northeastern]] ([[User talk:Unemployed Northeastern|talk]]) 23:29, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
==This is not forum shopping, but rather a seperate issue. Another poster at the Reliable Source Noticeboard responded to my post there by stating that the large number of entries from and about Law School Transparency (which is closely connected to Spivey Consulting) suggested that LST was spammy and the IP should be banned. I am responding to that suggestion by entering a notice here. Epeefleche has responded with extreme incivility and dishonesty in the other discussion board, [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&offset=20160101000000&limit=500&tagfilter=&contribs=user&target=Epeefleche&namespace= engaged in retaliatory edits of wikipedia pages for sources that suggested that Law School Transparency was not a reliable source], and removed notices of problems with tabloid blog sources that he liked before citing to them. He edited the Wikipedia page for one source, Brian Leiter, and a related page more than 20 times in the space of 3 days. Take a look at [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&offset=20160101000000&limit=500&tagfilter=&contribs=user&target=Epeefleche&namespace= Epeefleche's edit history]. His inappropriate conduct and overly emotional defense of LST (and attacks on anyone critical of LST) are transparent.[[User:Unemployed Northeastern|Unemployed Northeastern]] ([[User talk:Unemployed Northeastern|talk]]) 23:29, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
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    General notice - matthewwoodward.co.uk SEO suggestions

    Someone just discovered this SEO page and mentioned it at WP:AN; I thought people here would benefit from seeing it. No need to blacklist the URL itself. Nyttend (talk) 17:11, 4 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    I think this deserves more appearance here :) — Revi 16:23, 12 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    Bumping so this remains for a long time. MER-C 00:00 1 December 2015 (UTC)
    Yup and another one [www.wikilinkpro.com here] Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 08:17, 22 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    Reported to WMF Legal. MER-C 13:13, 22 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    Note: You can link this section by using Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Spam#SEO. — Revi 11:18, 22 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    Or just WT:WPSPAM#SEO Johnuniq (talk) 03:56, 23 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    Report about these types of spam should go to WP:DEADLINKSPAM. Thanks, — Revi 05:08, 25 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]


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    Question about amazon.com

    What do Amazon affiliate links look like? I can't seem to figure out which parts of the amazon links are necessary and if/where the affiliate code may be included. — Jeraphine Gryphon (talk) 18:54, 13 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

    @Jeraphine Gryphon:: Affiliate links have a tag parameter. MER-C 12:57, 20 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

    wilsonsconsultancy.com

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    Blocked 212.200.65.112/28 for 10 days. MER-C 11:48, 21 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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    Spamming links to streaming sites in radio-related articles (see contribs, almost all of them). Latest site is now globally blacklisted. I just left a level-3 warning and notification, but early warnings in 2011 about EL-usage have been completely ignored. GermanJoe (talk) 05:58, 22 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
    Indeffed. Thanks for the report. MER-C 06:50, 22 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

    thefamouspeople.com -- is it spam?

    I'm pretty sure it's not a reliable source, but is it spam? — Jeraphine Gryphon (talk) 12:05, 23 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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    Clickspam articles like this have been used here as "references", while the main grabhouse.com page is about ...real estate?? — Jeraphine Gryphon (talk) 17:31, 25 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

    Law School Transparency

    Incoherent wall of copy and pasted text

    http://lawschooltransparency.com/: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com http://spiveyconsulting.com/: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com Over the last two months a large number of edits have been made to dozens, possibly hundreds of articles about law schools. Almost all the edits follow the exact same format and appear to originate from a single commercial organization "Law School Transparency", inserting links to its website into specific law school articles. LST seeks to monetize data that is available for free elsewhere, and often introduces errors into the data in the process. It also serves as a defacto marketing platform, for Spivey Consulting, where two LST leaders, Kyle McEntee and Mike Spivey, work.[1]

    There are slight variations in the edits for some law schools--for example, some note the overall employment rate for law students and not just the "Full Time JD required not solo" category invented by LST. The more favorable edits appear to be for law schools who have paid LST for its services or otherwise provided financial support to the organization.

    Someone (apparently from LST) has inserted LST metrics into most law school's websites without any prior discussion of whether or not LST is a reliable source of information.

    Undisclosed Paid Editing and off-Wiki Coordination

    Hundreds of Law School Websites have been the target of undisclosed paid editing, coordinated off-Wiki.. On July 9, 2014, on the message board top-law-school.com, a user going by the name of BRUT (who had been a user since 2011 and has posted on top-law-schools.com more than 270 times; top-law-schools registration required to see BRUT's past posts) declared the completion of a project offering a bounty to those who would insert links to Law School Transparency's website (entry into a raffle with the potential win of $10) into the Wikipedia page of ABA accredited law schools.[2] This was a coordinated effort, with individuals stating which website they edited, and BRUT keeping track to avoid duplication of effort. This conflict of interest was not disclosed on Wikipedia when the edits were made. This violates Wikipedia's paid editing policies and policies against off-wiki coordination.

    Someone from Law School transparency posted specifically requesting a link to LST's website and thanking for the effort, noting that the links were helping drive traffic to LST's website. This same person from LST disclosed that they were editing some of the law school websites themselves.[3]

    It's unclear how many Wikipedia editors were compromised, but there are 13 pages of posts on the top-law-schools.com thread announcing the raffle. In the course of discussion, many of the individuals posting promised to monitor the law school websites and revert any changes and to defend LST, with individuals from LST egging them on.

    Many of the editors posting here and on reliable sources noticeboard to defend LST may have been compromised by payments from LST, Spivey Cosulting, or affiliated individuals or organizations. I would request that everyone defending LST as a reliable source disclose or not a spammer whether or not they have any connection whatsoever to Spivey, LST, top-law-schools.com, or related individuals or entities.

    The full text from the first page of the top-law-schools.com thread is provided below (please excuse errors in formatting).

    I am going to cross-post to reliable source noticeboard.Unemployed Northeastern (talk) 23:52, 25 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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    Posts: 6967 Joined: Wed Dec 21, 2011 3:14 am Adopt-A-State completed! Thanks everyone! Postby Brut » Wed Jul 09, 2014 12:44 am

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    Brut wrote: OK FOLKS adopt-a-state 2014 has now come to a close

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    thank you all for putting in the time to make this project happen as i said earlier, bc of what we've done here, thousands of prospective law students will be exposed to the information they need to make informed decisions about attending law schools i'm drunk so pardon my sentimentality, but i think we probably changed some people's lives for the better and hopefully will be contributing to the decline of a few particularly egregious scam schools u guys all rock


    RAFFLE TIME Three lucky participants in Adopt-A-State 2014 will receive a $10 gift certificate to their choice of Chipotle, Five Guys, Panera Bread, or Starbucks! If you have completed a school, you qualify!

    Here's how to enter:

    1) Post in this thread with your entry information by July 27 at 9:00 PM.

    2) If you completed all schools in a state, list that state and the number of schools you completed. If you completed only some of the schools in a state, list that state and list the schools you completed. Each school will count as one entry.

    3) On July 27 at 10:00 PM EST, I will assign each entry a number and will post in this thread.

    4) At 10:30 PM EST, I will run a random number generator three times. The three numbers drawn will win their choice of a $10 gift certificate to Chipotle, Five Guys, Panera, or Starbucks!

    4) There is a limit of one winning entry per participant. In the event that one person has more than one of their entries chosen, additional random numbers will be generated.

    5) I will then PM the winners for next steps.

    Good luck!


    UPDATES Everyone in this thread is awesome. Thanks for taking the time to adopt a state.

    At this point, there are still several dozen schools left, and seventeen unfinished states. As an incentive, I am announcing FABULOUS PRIZES to the participants of Adopt-A-State 2014.

    Three lucky winners, chosen at random, will receive a $10 gift card to their choice of Chipotle, Five Guys, Panera Bread, or Starbucks!!!!

    When the last state is complete, I will check the Wikipedia entry for every ABA accredited LS to make sure everything is completed properly. Then, on the honor system, everyone who would like to participate in the raffle will submit a list of schools they completed. For each school they submit they will receive a number. I will then film myself running a random number generator three times to pick three numbers. The person to whom each number is assigned will be a winner!

    (Fine print: limited to one prize per poster, sorry MG. Entries will be accepted once I've finished checking the last school. Posters have 24 hours from that point to post their schools ITT.)

    Four fabulous eateries! Three chances to win! Now go Adopt-A-State!


    One of the first place prospective students look for information about law schools is Wikipedia. Unfortunately, as many of us know, most Wikipedia entries on law schools are 100% marketing fluff with zero useful information. I think TLS can change that.

    I propose that TLS users agree to adopt a state. Once a user adopts a state, he or she will edit the Wikipedia entry for each school in that state so that it includes relevant and up-to-date employment and cost information. We can find this information on the school's official website, and on LST (Law School Transparency).

    Here's an example: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benjamin_N ... ool_of_Law

    I found Cardozo's FT/LT/JD-required employment statistics on LST, and posted them at the bottom the opening summary to the Wikipedia article, citing the official Cardozo ABA required disclosures (where LST gets its information).

    According to Cardozo's 2013 ABA-required disclosures, 54.3% of the Class of 2013 obtained full-time, long-term, JD-required employment nine months after graduation.[4]

    Then I added two sections to the article - one for employment and one for costs. I found the underemployment statistics on LST, the cost of attendance on Cardozo's website, and the LST estimated debt-financed COA on LST. A quick way to find the relevant information on a school's website is to Google the name of the school + "ABA required disclosures" or "cost of attendance".

    Employment According to Cardozo's official 2013 ABA-required disclosures, 54.3% of the Class of 2013 obtained full-time, long-term, JD-required employment nine months after graduation.[5] Cardozo's Law School Transparency under-employment score is 25.1%, indicating the percentage of the Class of 2013 unemployed, pursuing an additional degree, or working in a non-professional, short-term, or part-time job nine months after graduation.[6]

    Costs The total cost of attendance (indicating the cost of tuition, fees, and living expenses) at Cardozo for the 2013-2014 academic year is $76,521.[7] The Law School Transparency estimated debt-financed cost of attendance for three years is $294,257.[8]

    You can use the template below if you'd like, replacing the figures and citations with whatever school you're working on.

    (introduction paragraph) According to xxxxxxxxxxxx's 2013 ABA-required disclosures, xxxxxxxxxx% of the Class of 2013 obtained full-time, long-term, JD-required employment nine months after graduation, excluding solo practitioners.[9]

    Employment According to xxxxxxxxxx's official 2013 ABA-required disclosures, xxxxxxxxxx% of the Class of 2013 obtained full-time, long-term, JD-required employment nine months after graduation, excluding solo-practitioners.[10] xxxxxxxxxx's Law School Transparency under-employment score is xxxxxxxx%, indicating the percentage of the Class of 2013 unemployed, pursuing an additional degree, or working in a non-professional, short-term, or part-time job nine months after graduation.[11]

    Costs The total cost of attendance (indicating the cost of tuition, fees, and living expenses) at xxxxxxxxxxx for the 20xxxxxx-20xxxxx academic year is $xxxxxxxxxx.[12] The Law School Transparency estimated debt-financed cost of attendance for three years is $xxxxxxxxxxx.[13]

    Adopting a state, especially one with few schools, will take a minimal amount of time. It's possible to get a school done in under five minutes. And your actions will help give tens of thousands of applicants access to information they had no idea existed. They'll be able to make more informed decisions about where to attend, and hopefully they'll continue their research on LST, a great resource. This project will balance those law school articles that are mostly marketing fluff, and you'll be doing something positive to help prospective students (beyond those who stumble into the Choosing forum by chance).

    So who's up to adopt a state?

    Image Alabama - MistakenGenius 3/3 confirmed complete Image Alaska - n/a 0/0 confirmed complete Image Arizona - dowu, Brut 3/3 confirmed complete Image Arkansas - Jaqen 2/2 confirmed complete Image California - ManoftheHour 21/21 confirmed complete Image Colorado - MistakenGenius 2/2 confirmed complete Image Connecticut - banjo, Brut 3/3 confirmed complete Image D.C. - oxie 6/6 confirmed complete Image Delaware - MistakenGenius 1/1 confirmed complete Image Florida - Cicero76, Brut 11/11 confirmed complete Image Georgia - MistakenGenius5/5 confirmed complete Image Hawaii - Trig1/1 confirmed complete Image Idaho - MistakenGenius, Ricky-Bobby1/1 confirmed complete Image Illinois - Ricky-Bobby9/9 confirmed complete Image Indiana - John Everyman, Ricky-Bobby 4/4 confirmed complete Image Iowa - Frothingslosh 2/2 confirmed complete Image Kansas - CounselorNebby 2/2 confirmed complete Image Kentucky - Brut 3/3 confirmed complete Image Louisiana - oxie 4/4 confirmed complete Image Maine - MistakenGenius 1/1 confirmed complete Image Maryland - scoobysnax 2/2 confirmed complete Image Massachusetts - oxie 7/7 confirmed complete Image Michigan - rahulg91, MistakenGenius 5/5 confirmed complete Image Minnesota - Nova, sobrickay 4/4 confirmed complete Image Mississippi - MistakenGenius 2/2 confirmed complete Image Missouri - scottidsntknow 4/4 confirmed complete Image Montana - MistakenGenius 1/1 confirmed complete Image Nebraska - MistakenGenius 2/2 confirmed complete Image Nevada - banjo 1/1 confirmed complete Image New Hampshire - CoffeeIsLife 1/1 confirmed complete Image New Jersey - wingding 3/3 confirmed complete Image New Mexico - MistakenGenius 1/1 confirmed complete Image New York - Brut 15/15 confirmed complete Image North Carolina - MistakenGenius 7/7 confirmed complete Image North Dakota - MistakenGenius 1/1 confirmed complete Image Ohio - ARemKit, oxie 9/9 confirmed complete Image Oklahoma - oxie 3/3 confirmed complete Image Oregon - cron1834 3/3 confirmed complete Image Pennsylvania - Brut 7/7 confirmed complete Image Rhode Island - Ricky-Bobby 1/1 confirmed complete Image South Carolina - criminaltheory 2/2 confirmed complete Image South Dakota - MistakenGenius 1/1 confirmed complete Image Tennessee - oxie 3/3 confirmed complete Image Texas - Attax, BVest 9/9 confirmed complete Image Utah - MistakenGenius 2/2 confirmed complete Image Vermont - theotherone823 1/1 confirmed complete Image Virginia - nightcheese 8/8 confirmed complete Image Washington - oxie 3/3 confirmed complete Image West Virginia - CoffeeIsLife 1/1 confirmed complete Image Wisconsin - Serett 2/2 confirmed complete Image Wyoming - MistakenGenius 1/1 confirmed complete Last edited by Brut on Sun Jul 27, 2014 11:40 pm, edited 86 times in total. Top User avatarNova Posts: 9779 Joined: Sun Apr 15, 2012 8:55 pm Re: TLS adopt-a-state week Postby Nova » Wed Jul 09, 2014 12:47 am

    ill do minn Top User avatarBrut Posts: 6967 Joined: Wed Dec 21, 2011 3:14 am Re: TLS adopt-a-state week Postby Brut » Wed Jul 09, 2014 12:48 am

    Nova wrote: ill do minn

    sweet let's do this Top User avatarManoftheHour Posts: 2853 Joined: Tue Jan 22, 2013 6:03 pm Re: TLS adopt-a-state week Postby ManoftheHour » Wed Jul 09, 2014 1:01 am

    I was going to do CA but we have 20+ schools. No wonder our market sucks. Top User avatarNova Posts: 9779 Joined: Sun Apr 15, 2012 8:55 pm Re: TLS adopt-a-state week Postby Nova » Wed Jul 09, 2014 1:03 am

    ManoftheHour wrote: I was going to do CA but we have 20+ schools. No wonder our market sucks.

    I saw u posted itt and i wondered "is he really gonna sign up for CA?" Top User avatarBrut Posts: 6967 Joined: Wed Dec 21, 2011 3:14 am Re: TLS adopt-a-state week Postby Brut » Wed Jul 09, 2014 1:05 am

    ManoftheHour wrote: I was going to do CA but we have 20+ schools. No wonder our market sucks.

    mayb u can do a few and i'll pick up the rest i'm flying thru these ny ones tbh Top User avatardowu Posts: 10640 Joined: Wed Mar 28, 2012 9:47 pm Re: TLS adopt-a-state week Postby dowu » Wed Jul 09, 2014 1:13 am

    I'll forgo CA for reasons listed above but I'll volunteer for AZ. Top User avatarDr.Zer0 Posts: 1139 Joined: Tue Jul 10, 2012 12:11 pm Re: TLS adopt-a-state week Postby Dr.Zer0 » Wed Jul 09, 2014 1:19 am

    ManoftheHour wrote: I was going to do CA but we have 20+ schools. No wonder our market sucks.

    Dr. Dre would be down. Maybe mp can go in on CA? Top User avatarManoftheHour Posts: 2853 Joined: Tue Jan 22, 2013 6:03 pm Re: TLS adopt-a-state week Postby ManoftheHour » Wed Jul 09, 2014 1:23 am

    Brut wrote: ManoftheHour wrote: I was going to do CA but we have 20+ schools. No wonder our market sucks.

    mayb u can do a few and i'll pick up the rest i'm flying thru these ny ones tbh


    I'll volunteer to help. I'll start tomorrow at work.

    This is an amazing idea btw. Top User avatarjenesaislaw Posts: 958 Joined: Mon May 19, 2008 6:35 pm Re: TLS adopt-a-state week Postby jenesaislaw » Wed Jul 09, 2014 1:23 am

    Excellent work. Thanks for working the LST cites in. We get a decent amount of traffic to LST from Wikipedia; this will only improve things. Top User avatarjenesaislaw Posts: 958 Joined: Mon May 19, 2008 6:35 pm Re: TLS adopt-a-state week Postby jenesaislaw » Wed Jul 09, 2014 1:25 am

    Also, throw a link to LST's Wikipedia page when you cite it for the first time. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_School_Transparency Top User avatarjk148706 Posts: 2896 Joined: Fri May 10, 2013 11:14 am Re: TLS adopt-a-state week Postby jk148706 » Wed Jul 09, 2014 1:29 am

    Nvm


    Also... Great idea Top User avatardowu Posts: 10640 Joined: Wed Mar 28, 2012 9:47 pm Re: TLS adopt-a-state week Postby dowu » Wed Jul 09, 2014 1:36 am

    jenesaislaw wrote: Also, throw a link to LST's Wikipedia page when you cite it for the first time. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_School_Transparency

    Instead of throwing a little blurb at the end of the first section a la Brut, we should try to start a new section talking solely about current employment prospects. I think that topic deserves it's own section. Top User avatarBrut Posts: 6967 Joined: Wed Dec 21, 2011 3:14 am Re: TLS adopt-a-state week Postby Brut » Wed Jul 09, 2014 1:43 am

    dowu wrote: jenesaislaw wrote: Also, throw a link to LST's Wikipedia page when you cite it for the first time. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_School_Transparency

    Instead of throwing a little blurb at the end of the first section a la Brut, we should try to start a new section talking solely about current employment prospects. I think that topic deserves it's own section.

    ya i've been including the employment section as seen above, but it could prob use more info than it has Top should-i-do-it Posts: 418 Joined: Tue Jun 03, 2014 5:45 pm Re: TLS adopt-a-state week Postby should-i-do-it » Wed Jul 09, 2014 1:54 am

    Did the employment data for the two kansas schools, i'll add cost info later. Great idea btw Top User avatarscottidsntknow Posts: 8615 Joined: Sun Nov 27, 2011 9:29 pm Re: TLS adopt-a-state week Postby scottidsntknow » Wed Jul 09, 2014 1:56 am

    I'll do Missouri tomorrow Top User avatarNova Posts: 9779 Joined: Sun Apr 15, 2012 8:55 pm Re: TLS adopt-a-state week Postby Nova » Wed Jul 09, 2014 3:10 am

    i can do alaska too Top User avatarscottidsntknow Posts: 8615 Joined: Sun Nov 27, 2011 9:29 pm Re: TLS adopt-a-state week Postby scottidsntknow » Wed Jul 09, 2014 3:19 am

    Nova wrote: i can do alaska too

    That's a huge time commitment, you sure you're up for that? Top The Dark Shepard Posts: 476 Joined: Thu Mar 06, 2014 3:49 pm Re: TLS adopt-a-state week Postby The Dark Shepard » Wed Jul 09, 2014 4:20 am

    Nova wrote: i can do alaska too


    came in to say this :lol: Top NYSprague Posts: 875 Joined: Wed Apr 16, 2014 2:33 pm Re: TLS adopt-a-state week Postby NYSprague » Wed Jul 09, 2014 7:32 am

    Are you breaking out school funded jobs?

    If I have time later this summer when I have a bunch of doctors appointments I will do some. Won't be til late August/ Labor Day. Top User avataroxie Posts: 196 Joined: Thu Jul 04, 2013 9:51 am Re: TLS adopt-a-state week Postby oxie » Wed Jul 09, 2014 7:51 am

    I'll do DC Top User avatarCicero76 Posts: 1251 Joined: Mon Aug 13, 2012 9:41 pm Re: TLS adopt-a-state week Postby Cicero76 » Wed Jul 09, 2014 8:16 am

    I can try to do some Florida schools. There's basically 1 billion of them though. Top User avatarCicero76 Posts: 1251 Joined: Mon Aug 13, 2012 9:41 pm Re: TLS adopt-a-state week Postby Cicero76 » Wed Jul 09, 2014 8:33 am

    I did Florida Coastal's page as a public service. Took forever, mainly bc FL Coastttttal makes their ABA stuff impossible to find on their website. Takes like >10 clicks to get to a secret PDF of their real employment data. Top User avataroxie Posts: 196 Joined: Thu Jul 04, 2013 9:51 am Re: TLS adopt-a-state week Postby oxie » Wed Jul 09, 2014 8:40 am

    Cicero76 wrote: I did Florida Coastal's page as a public service. Took forever, mainly bc FL Coastttttal makes their ABA stuff impossible to find on their website. Takes like >10 clicks to get to a secret PDF of their real employment data.

    This should make things easier: http://www.abarequireddisclosures.org/

    Ooops, wrong data set... Sorry! Last edited by oxie on Wed Jul 09, 2014 10:29 am, edited 1 time in total. Top User avatarrahulg91 Posts: 288 Joined: Mon Feb 11, 2013 1:30 pm Re: TLS adopt-a-state week Postby rahulg91 » Wed Jul 09, 2014 8:44 am

    I'll do MI.

    P.S. This is a baller project. Last edited by rahulg91 on Wed Jul 09, 2014 8:52 am, edited 1 time in total. Top

    Extortion

    LST accuses law schools of presenting misleading data and other misdeeds, and demands payment from law schools to certify that their employment information is accurate. Critics have compared this practice to extortion.[14][15]

    Factual Errors

    LST's data clearinghouse contains numerous errors.[16]

    Lack of Transparency about Funding Sources

    LST is not transparent about its funding sources or uses of funds, and apparently did not file paperwork with the Internal Revenue Service that is required for its donors to receive a tax deduction until after this omission was pointed out by a law professor.[17]At that point, LST disclosed the bare minimum legally required rather than more comprehensive disclosures that are considered best practice. The organization appears to be funded in part by individuals providing career placement services to former law students, and to operate by scaring them into thinking they won't be able to find a job without such services.[18]

    Additional evidence of spamming by Spivey Consulting

    Spammy messages about Spivey consulting started appearing on Top-Law-Schools.com about the same time as all of the Wikipedia edits to Law School Transparency[19]

    References

    1. ^ http://spiveyconsulting.com/blog/press-release-kyle-mcentee-to-join-spivey-consulting/
    2. ^ http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=232618&p=7846901&hilit=wikipedia+california+nevada#p7846901
    3. ^ http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=232618&hilit=wikipedia+california+nevada&start=175
    4. ^ "Employment Statistics".
    5. ^ "Employment Statistics".
    6. ^ "Cardozo-Yeshiva University Profile".
    7. ^ "Tuition and Expenses".
    8. ^ "Cardozo-Yeshiva University Profile".
    9. ^ [SCHOOLSITExxxxx "xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx"]. {{cite web}}: Check |url= value (help)
    10. ^ [SCHOOLSITExxxxxxxxx "xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx"]. {{cite web}}: Check |url= value (help)
    11. ^ [LSTxxxxxxxxx "xxxxxxxxxx Profile"]. {{cite web}}: Check |url= value (help)
    12. ^ [SCHOOLSITExxxxxxxxx "xxxxxxxxxxx"]. {{cite web}}: Check |url= value (help)
    13. ^ [LSTxxxxxxxxxxxx "xxxxxxxxxxxxx Profile"]. {{cite web}}: Check |url= value (help)
    14. ^ Paul Caron, More on Law School Transparency's Certification Fee, TaxProfBlog, August 3, 2013
    15. ^ Karen Sloan, Group Offers to Certify Law Schools' Honesty: Organizers say they're promoting best practices, but critic compares it to a protection racket, National Law Journal, August 2, 2013
    16. ^ Steve Freedman, Is Law School Transparency a Reliable Source for Information?, The Faculty Lounge, January 27, 2015.
    17. ^ Stephen Diamond, Profits of Doom--Updated, July 30, 2013
    18. ^ http://spiveyconsulting.com/blog/press-release-kyle-mcentee-to-join-spivey-consulting/
    19. ^ http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=247053

    Forum shopping

    ==This is not forum shopping, but rather a seperate issue. Another poster at the Reliable Source Noticeboard responded to my post there by stating that the large number of entries from and about Law School Transparency (which is closely connected to Spivey Consulting) suggested that LST was spammy and the IP should be banned. I am responding to that suggestion by entering a notice here. Epeefleche has responded with extreme incivility and dishonesty in the other discussion board, engaged in retaliatory edits of wikipedia pages for sources that suggested that Law School Transparency was not a reliable source, and removed notices of problems with tabloid blog sources that he liked before citing to them. He edited the Wikipedia page for one source, Brian Leiter, and a related page more than 20 times in the space of 3 days. Take a look at Epeefleche's edit history. His inappropriate conduct and overly emotional defense of LST (and attacks on anyone critical of LST) are transparent.Unemployed Northeastern (talk) 23:29, 25 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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