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Spiro Koleka

Please refrain from making unconstructive edits to Wikipedia, as you did at Spiro Koleka. Your edits appear to be disruptive and have been reverted or removed.

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See Talk:Spiro Koleka.--Zoupan 15:22, 16 July 2015 (UTC)

Please stop your disruptive editing, as you did at Spiro Koleka. Your edits have been reverted or removed.

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Do not continue to make edits that appear disruptive until the dispute is resolved through consensus. Continuing to edit disruptively may result in your being blocked from editing. --Zoupan 19:23, 16 July 2015 (UTC)

Please stop your behaviour and discuss matters at the talk page.--Zoupan 19:33, 16 July 2015 (UTC)

Bueeishweut, if you are going to insist on trying to edit an article on a family member's of yours, I suggest you read Wikipedia:Plain and simple conflict of interest guide. It'll explain why we try to discourage people from doing that sort and how we can best help you correct inaccuracies and the like. Otherwise, you'll be finding yourself blocked and banned from the Spiro Koleka article soon. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 01:41, 17 July 2015 (UTC)

To everyone involved in this discussion. The conflict of interest has nothing to do here as long as I use published sources that can be verified. The problem with Zoupan is that he is publishing information about another individual called Spiro Koleka, also civil engineer and minister, but not the same person! After lots of discussions, then he claims that this is his son and continues with his separatist propaganga for which he is largely criticized in other articles he has edited. I am the one who needs help here, because I practically have no experience with wikipedia and this Zoupan destroys the only article I created by gross identity mismatch of the subject person in the article. Now he says that this is Spiro Jorgo Koleka. I say that he is not, but forget me being a family member or the creator of the article! Spiro Jorgo Koleka is born in 1879 (search on google images for Spiro Jorgo Koleka and a book cover will show you the birth and death years, also the picture is of another man)! Now why this Zoupan wants to provoke with this I don't know, but the facts are clear. He uses some book that has no reference regarding the matter and tries to find references to win this edit war he has started. He claims that the village of Vuno is a Greek minority one, but let anyone go to their facebook group and ask the elderly. Or find official records for it. There are books denying the holocaust, but do you accept them as accurate historic sources? I don't think so, there are official records proving it. Now I want to solve this matter and not have to deal with Zoupan or his fake accounts any further. Can any wikipedia editor that is impartial be found to reasonably evaluate the claims here? I cannot continue with this bullying by Zoupas anymore, this has to stop. This article is about Spiro Thoma Koleka, not about Spiro Jorgo Koleka. I know this better since I created it. Zoupan can create his own new Spiro Jorgo Koleka article if he wants.Burridheut

You might want to respond here: Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#A_.22relative.22_owning_an_article --NeilN ^{talk to me} 04:30, 17 July 2015 (UTC)

Spiro Koleka (1908–2001) was the son of Spiro Jorgo Koleka (1879/80–1940), as referenced, and exactly as I've presented in the article and discussion. Robert Elsie clearly says that Spiro J. Koleka is not to be confused with his son with the same name (he numbers them "1" and "2"). I have never claimed that 1 and 2 are the same person. It is clear that you have misconstrued terribly.--Zoupan 06:34, 17 July 2015 (UTC)

You have edited so many times your story that you don't even know who you are writing about now. Spiro Jorgo Koleka had 3 children. Out of these, one son, called Gogo (in honor of Spiros father). In albania it is common to put your fathers name to your son. It is however unheard of to put your own name to your son. Now this is perhaps common from where you are from, I will not discuss that. The real son of Spiro Jorgo Koleka, Gogo, studied in Vienna for medicine and established the first polychlinic in the country. You can read about him and other family members in this post (use google translate if you don't speak albanian): https://sq.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spiro_Jorgo_Koleka Are we clear that you are quoting something that is an inacurate claim by Elsie when it comes to their father-son relationship or is there something more you need to know? Spiro Thoma Koleka (STK, the one from this article) was raised orphan, see article written in 2001 upon his death by Anastas Kondo, title: "Fenomeni Koleka". How could that happen if his father was alive until STK was 32 years old? How can you prove he was his father in the first place? Did Elsie use any reference or sourse to come to this conclusion? If yes, where is it? Burridheut

You're still telling stories... Again, Albanian Wikipedia is not a reliable source. Please present reliable sources with quotes (proper citations) regarding your story on Spiro Jorgo Koleka. Now, back to Spiro Koleka. The basis of the edit-war is your removal of Greek community, which you call "propaganda". I take it as you will not remove the fact from that article again – the references explicitly refer to Spiro Koleka, the communist politician.--Zoupan 22:05, 17 July 2015 (UTC)

You are very biased Zoupan and you come here with a mission. Regarding the identity mismatch that you have created over the past days I have a final proof that destroys all your allegations based on incorrect sources. I have for you the picture of the grave stone from Spiro Koleka this article is referring to. The picture is in high resolution at http://i.imgur.com/pAJ5FLt.jpg and clarifies that he is Spiro Thoma Koleka, meaning son of Thoma (in case you don't understand). This means that you immediately have to remove all your texts that refer to Spiro Jorgo Koleka and all kinds of information taken from the same inaccurate sources. OK? Burridheut

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Hello, Burridheut, welcome to Wikipedia and thank you for your contributions. Your editing pattern indicates that you may be using multiple accounts or coordinating editing with people outside Wikipedia, such as Endribinaj (talk · contribs). Our policy on multiple accounts usually does not allow this, and users who use multiple accounts may be blocked from editing. If you operate multiple accounts directly or with the help of another person, please remember to disclose these connections. Thank you.--Zoupan 16:55, 16 July 2015 (UTC)

That assumption of me using multiple accounts is incorrect. I have only one account (Burridheut) and I have only one article on wikipedia. --Burridheut 17:10, 16 July 2015 (UTC)

ANI

There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. See this thread. Zoupan 20:07, 16 July 2015 (UTC)

July 2015

Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia. You appear to be engaged in an edit war with one or more editors according to your reverts at Spiro Koleka. Although repeatedly reverting or undoing another editor's contributions may seem necessary to protect your preferred version of a page, on Wikipedia this is usually seen as obstructing the normal editing process, and often creates animosity between editors. Instead of edit warring, please discuss the situation with the editor(s) involved and try to reach a consensus on the talk page.

If editors continue to revert to their preferred version they are likely to lose editing privileges. This isn't done to punish an editor, but to prevent the disruption caused by edit warring. In particular, editors should be aware of the three-revert rule, which says that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Edit warring on Wikipedia is not acceptable in any amount, and violating the three-revert rule is very likely to lead to a loss of editing privileges. Thank you. NeilN ^{talk to me} 20:43, 16 July 2015 (UTC)

@NeilN: As you're nearest, could you perhaps comment the ANI? Also, I think that the referenced revision should be restored.--Zoupan 20:51, 16 July 2015 (UTC)

• Weegeerunner already restored. Burridheut, you are skating on thin ice here. Edit warring can easily lead to a block, but in this case we do indeed seem to have claims of ownership and the removal of sources which appear to be reliable, which are exacerbating circumstances. Please don't let it get that far. Drmies (talk) 02:27, 17 July 2015 (UTC)

@NeilN:, :@Weegeerunner:, :@Drmies: and of course :@Zoupan:. I have uploaded a picture of the grave stone of Spiro Koleka (person this article is about) that has his full name, including fathers name, his birth and death years as well as his portrait picture. It can be found in high resolution at http://i.imgur.com/pAJ5FLt.jpg

I hope this proof in granite stone is enough for us all to conclude that Zoupan and his hand-picked unreliable sources have made a mess of Spiro Thoma Koleka's name, fatyhers name, lineage, ethnicity, and minority status. Should you have any further doubt please contact me. I want this matter to be settled asap as the evidence I am providing here is conclusive. --Burridheut

As you didn't sign you post, none of your pings worked. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 14:02, 18 July 2015 (UTC)

Thanks, signed now (hopefully). --Burridheut

The gravestone does not conclude that Spiro Koleka was not the son of Spiro Jorgo Koleka. Still, the references explicitly refer to this Spiro (Thoma) Koleka as a member of the Greek minority. The gravestone only shows that Thoma was his middle name. Can you please elaborate on your comment "have made a mess of Spiro Thoma Koleka's name, fatyhers name, lineage, ethnicity, and minority status." --Zoupan 17:22, 18 July 2015 (UTC)

The gravestone concludes that your references are inaccurate. Spiro Koleka did not have a middle name (As you presumably should know from all historic sources. You can check this official publication of the Albanian Parliament listing all it's members from the day it was created here: http://www.parlament.al/graphics/foto/Ligjv%EBn%EBsit%20Shqiptar%EB.pdf ), so Thoma is Spiro's father's name, as shown on the grave stone. Since your reference has gotten wrong Spiro's father, they also have gotten wrong the entire lineage from his father, thus your references are not credible sources of information to be based upon, and are not reliable sources regarding any hypothetic greek origin of Spiro Thoma Koleka (the man of this article). Now, what don't you understand out of this? Don't you see that you can not fabricate stories out of inaccurate references? The reason why we put references is also to check their claims. This myth is now checked and this myth is busted!!! Why do you continue with your propaganda and not see the facts? --Burridheut

Wrong, you have to understand that there are several references. If the middle name is wrong in one reference (Elsie uses "Gogo"), it does not mean that the all references are unreliable, or "propaganda". You have not yet provided a refutation on either matter, geneaology nor Greek community.--Zoupan 07:48, 19 July 2015 (UTC)

I have provided you proof of fathers name. I have provided you proof of inaccuracies in you references. You cannot use these inaccurate references anymore. You are not a credible editor if you do and your edits will be undone. --Burridheut

Dr. Mythbuster, Get over it.--Zoupan 08:19, 19 July 2015 (UTC)

His daughter's interview. Iliriana Koleka (so much for the Greek, where did you read such claims by the way?) talks about her father. http://www.pakufije.com/2015/05/30/intervistavajza-e-spiro-kolekes-ne-10-vitet-e-fundit-te-jetes-se-enverit-komanduan-ramizi-dhe-nexhmija/

And this for his role in 1912.https://books.google.com/books?id=SyqxwWsygjAC&pg=PA141&dq=spiro+koleka+jorgo&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0CCQQ6AEwAWoVChMI2uv5iP7qxgIVg9UeCh2vZwH2#v=onepage&q=spiro%20koleka%20jorgo&f=false

Elsie got it wrong. It is not the first time. I.e. he states that Josif Bageri was Catholic while he was Orthodox. This because he doesn't focus much on ethnicity, origin, etc, rather focuses on what the person did. He is still a great expert, he just doesn't pay much attention because it is not important to him.

Zoupan, you got it wrong this time. Let's remove those "Northern Epirotes" tags which wrongfully point to a Greek identity.Mondiad (talk) 00:45, 21 July 2015 (UTC)

@Mondiad: see Talk:Spiro Koleka#Father.--Zoupan 08:06, 21 July 2015 (UTC)

Please stop your disruptive editing, as you did at Spiro Koleka. Your edits have been reverted or removed.

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Do not continue to make edits that appear disruptive until the dispute is resolved through consensus. Continuing to edit disruptively may result in your being blocked from editing. --Zoupan 05:53, 23 July 2015 (UTC)

Notice of Edit warring noticeboard discussion

Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion involving you at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring regarding a possible violation of Wikipedia's policy on edit warring. Thank you.--Zoupan 21:06, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

August 2015

Please stop your disruptive editing, as you did at Spiro Koleka. Your edits have been reverted or removed.

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Do not continue to make edits that appear disruptive until the dispute is resolved through consensus. Continuing to edit disruptively may result in your being blocked from editing. --Zoupan 17:14, 10 August 2015 (UTC)

YOU SIR, are reverting and deleting everything as you please. STOP immediately this behavior! Have some self respect.Burridheut (talk) 17:50, 10 August 2015 (UTC)

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Blocked

I have blocked you for 31 hours for personal attacks and edit warring. I do not care how outraged you are by another editor's perspective, this edit summary is unacceptable. Guy (Help!) 19:35, 10 August 2015 (UTC)