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Photosynthesis

Some time ago you helped improve the article Photosynthetic reaction centre to bring it to featured article standard. The article never became featured, probably because it's too obscure, so now I want to merge it with photosynthesis and then eventually rewrite that whole article. Few people have heard of reaction centres, but the majority of people have heard of photosynthesis, so this is probably a better candidate for a featured article. I just wondered if you would like to help merge the two articles appropriately. Thanks. --Miller 17:08, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

Murphy's law of talk archives

Just before the talk page gets so long that it has to be archived, several people will write beautiful compliments. As soon as the archive is completed, something really strange or nasty will happen on the new page.

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Re: Military History Project

Hi. Sorry I didn't get back to you sooner in regards to the Military History Project on Wiki. I was wondering how exactly one contributes through the project-is there a specific taskforce for Women in war? How exactly does it work? Asarelah 02:28, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

Just sign up for the general project. Category:Women in war inspired me to approach you because it's well populated but hasn't gotten attention from the project yet. I was thinking it could use more subcategories for easier navigation. That's just a start - the project does plenty of things. Durova 03:07, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

Sweden Democrats

Did you see the edit that SweHomer added that caused me to jump back in? [1] Hopefully, I nipped it in the bud. When things start in this direction, editor relationships rarely get better. FloNight ^talk 03:31, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

Yes, that's why I posted in support of your statement. I'm glad you caught it early. Durova 03:34, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

EXPO a reputable source?

At Talk:Sweden Democrats you suggested "If you'd like to write an article about Expo then go ahead." and I just wanted to inform you that an article already exist at Expo (magazine). I would say that Expo indeed is a reliable source, but it would be possible to get more sources if necessary. The major problem is that most newspapers only free archives for recent events. // Liftarn 08:43, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the information. Actually my point on the talk page was that there were plenty of other sources already cited that supported the article text. Since that was the only one an editor disputed, it seemed that it wouldn't hurt the article to remove it. Then, since that editor was devoting a lot of talk page space to this source, I suggested he select another source he preferred to defend the party. The place to discuss Expo is on its own page. Just trying to facilitate consensus... Regards, Durova 18:15, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

Can you help...?

Can you please help me with the List of French Monarchs list, as I seem to be the only one who is editing it... I'm finding it hard and really want this article to make FL status... any help would be much appreciated... Sotakeit 16:49, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

You're almost there. Just footnote a few more of the statements in the introduction and I'll help copyedit. Aim for one citation every 1-2 paragraphs. Durova 16:52, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

I don't know what to put in the footnotes? And the one I added for Charlamange doesn't seem to work? I'll try to foot note so more, but it would be helpful if you could edit them if they don't work... Sotakeit 17:02, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

If this is just a problem with the formatting, then post the full information here and I'll implement it on the page. Be specific enough that I know where to place it. I'm about to go offline so it might be a few hours before it's in. Regards, Durova 17:05, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

I put this
ref name=Charlemange>Though he is considered Charles I of France he was also founder of the Holy Roman Empire and is considered to be king of Germany.</ref>
directly after "not that Charlemange..."Sotakeit 17:08, 24 March 2006 (UTC) thanks :)

That's really not a format I know. I've implemented the system I use. It has an empty footnote section at the bottom of the page. Just fill in the page numbers and adapt for your other citations. I'll come back later to copyedit. Cheers, Durova 17:13, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

You're getting the hang of the format. Let's have some authors and page numbers. :) Durova 20:21, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

I don't know any page numbers of authors as I didn't write most of the introduction. O, and everytime I click on the edit but (the small one above) it says I've been blocked form editing (well my ISP) but I can still edit every other page and this page using the edit button atthe top...

Then you ought to contact an administrator. Maybe a vandal has been using your IP range. I don't see any blocks on your user report. Good luck, Durova 13:32, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

Homer Simpson wins!

Joyous | Talk 18:38, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

Thanks

Hey, just want to say thanks for you help with the List of French Monarchs. Yours, Sotakeit 15:36, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

It's here!!!

Dear Durova:

And it's here!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Announcing my CS 492 term-end paper: On Wikipedia — the Technology, the People, the Unfinished Work. File:Wikipedia.pdf

Thank you for all the kind help you have lent me during the paper-writing process!!!

Long live Wikipedia!!!

Shuo Xiang 22:17, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

Joan of Arc in art

Hi, I got your note on my talk page concerning the GA nomination of the Joan of Arc in art page. Sorry I haven't done anything yet, but I just became editor of the Open Directory Project Highland Games > Canada category and I want to be sure to get that category filled out before the start of the Highland Games season. I will go to the nomination page soon, though. JFPerry 00:37, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

Military history WikiProject Newsletter, Issue I

The Military history WikiProject Newsletter Issue I - March 2006
Project news An independent military history peer review has been created for the benefit of the project. A number of articles have already been reviewed, receiving significantly more feedback within the project than they did on the generic peer review page. The project's Collaboration of the Fortnight got off to a great start with Ferdinand Foch and is now focusing on the military history of Spain. Two new task forces—dealing with warfare during classical antiquity and the Middle Ages—have been created. An effort to build a catalogue of high-quality maps for use in military history articles is now underway. The newly-formed translation department is looking for volunteers to help with translating featured articles from other-language Wikipedias.	From the Coordinators Welcome to the inaugural issue of the Military history WikiProject's newsletter! We hope that this new format will help members—especially those who may be unable to keep up with some of the rapid developments that tend to occur—find new groups and programs within the project that they may wish to participate in. Please consider this inital issue to be a prototype; as always, any comments and suggestions are quite welcome, and will help us improve the newsletter in the coming months. Kirill Lokshin, Lead Coordinator
Current proposals Proposed guidelines for categories of military people are currently being discussed. A number of issues have already been resolved, but the proposed scheme is still in draft form and further input would be very welcome.

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RCC

Hi, recently you voted on a move from Roman Catholic Church to Catholic Church. Thanks for your support. That proposal was voted down, but now they're trying to accomplish the opposite: to change Catholic Church from a redirect into a disambiguation page (redundant with Catholicism, Catholicism (disambiguation), Catholic, One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church, and other articles). There is an ongoing vote at Talk:Roman Catholic Church#Survey 2, and your contribution to the discussion is very much needed. In fact, there's a revert war going on at Catholic Church with some people trying to preempt the vote and create a disambig page anyway. So more voices and your contribution to the discussion in particular is very much needed! --Hyphen5 13:01, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

Military history Collaboration of the Fortnight

You supported American Revolutionary War, which has been selected as the Military history WikiProject's new Collaboration of the Fortnight. Please help improve this article to featured article standards. Kirill Lokshin 23:30, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

RFC - you are mentioned

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/86.10.231.219

You have had some dealings with this user and I wonder if you could spare a moment to view the RFC. Midgley 08:32, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

Military history WikiProject Newsletter - Issue II

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Need for translator (fr to en)

Hello fellow Wikipedian. I'm looking for some help at Scanderbeg. I 've left a message at the project page but noone responded. If you can and if you are interested, please check this french book (it is in public domain) so that this article (and perhaps the many related articles) gets improved. Thanks! talk to +MATIA 06:46, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

Mathematics

Pruneau 21:31, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

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List of notable brain tumor patients

Hi, Durova. The List of people with epilepsy has recently achived Featured List status. I've shamelessly nicked some ideas from your page. During the review, the issue of naming such lists appeared. When I investigated, I found that "notable" was discouraged as part of the title. Since all lists of people on Wikipedia should include only notable people, the word is redundant. Futher, the word "patient" has also been questioned, but perhaps more for my list than yours. I have found that picking a name that applies to all people in such a list is very hard. For example, "people with epilepsy" is a present-tense thing. So it may appear to exclude dead people or people who no longer have epilepsy. I think a compromise title is the best we can achieve. Anyway, you might want to voice your opinion over at the talk page.

Secondly, a bot has removed the Elizabeth Taylor image due to copyright issues. The other pictures of her either have the same problem, or aren't nearly as good. I tried to find someone else but think they have to be well recognised and also have a good safe picture. Possibly Eric Liddell might do. In the UK, Mo Mowlam is still well remembered but her picture probably can't be used in this list. Hmm...

Cheers, Colin Harkness°^Talk 14:06, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

I see you've found another picture. I have found a good source for George Gershwin. This paper (PMID 12131961) gives great detail on the subject. It is much better than the IMDB source. Someone once said that IMDB was as reliable as a Wikipedia page, with no sources, written by an anon. Hmm. Anyway, the paper suggests the first symptoms were in February and he died in July. That gives 6 months if that is your measure. However, from diagnosis of tumor to death was probably hours rather than days or months. Colin Harkness°^Talk 19:52, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

List of people with epilepsy

Hi, I wish you had written your message to me sooner. I logged in late last night to find your "unpleasant surprise" and had a sleepless night as a result. I don't know what I've done to make you react with such apparent hostility. I certainly don't suppose your chore was anything but a mammoth task. If I've given the impression otherwise then I do apologise.

I will be writing a more detailed response later. However, you should know that I have been working on a new section of "Religious figures" to take the existing names and also a good bunch more. As I'm sure you are aware, such issues are extremely controversial (both with religious people and also amongst scientists/physicians) and often highly speculative. This is why I have not rushed to include it. Regards, Colin Harkness°^Talk 10:07, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

Joan of Arc and Epilepsy

Here is what JR Hughes says regarding Joan of Arc:

"...(background and life story, which you already know) (ref 1)... The possibility that Joan of Arc's voices and visions were epileptic phenomena has been considered, but clearly auditory and visual hallucinations are very uncommon in epilepsy. Epileptic phenomena are nearly always brief and primitive, like light flashes; the well-formed visions she described lasted hours rather than just a minute or so (ref 2). Thus, the extremely pious and religious Joan of Arc likely experienced religious messages, rather than epileptic phenomena." The 1st reference is "Pernoud R. Joan of Arc,. New York: Penguin Books; 1969". The 2nd reference is "Bazil CW. Sensory disorders. In: Engel Jr J, Pedley TA, editors. Epilepsy, a comprehensive textbook. Lippincott-Raven: Philadelphia; 1997".

I had originally placed Joan in the "Similar conditions" box. An anonymous editor moved her to "No evidence". I don't agree with that since clearly many neurologist historians think visions of any kind are enough evidence to support their speculation. However, as you are very aware, religious issues are very controversial and I didn't want to get into a revert war with this person. I left it where it is, pending a move to a new section.

The level of evidence used by researchers to "diagnose" temporal lobe epilepsy (TLE) in religious figures ranges from thoroughly convincing to outragously poor. The two least convincing methods used appear to be the assumption that all visions can be explained as a seizure and the use of psychological analysis indicating the person may have had Geschwind syndrome. This highly controversial "syndrome" is occasionally being used as the sole means of "diagnosis" (ie. no evidence of seizures, just psychology).

You may be interested in this landmark paper, this talk and this article. Colin Harkness°^Talk 11:42, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

Hm, I have a hunch about who that anonymous editor may have been. The long text comment and the IP address look like Allen Williamson, an old troublemaker at Joan of Arc. Coming back to review the article after a hiatus, I discovered this morning that he vanity published in order to quote himself in Wikipedia's article.

Although I'm very relieved to read this explanation, I'll leave my vote on your nomination unchanged for now because of the other concerns. Call it a hard (but very friendly) kick in the pants: I really think you're intelligent and talented enough to make that list much better than it already is. You might win me over or you might make FL without my support. Right now I'd rather wait - and probably hand you a barnstar two months from now as well as a "strong support" vote. Regards, Durova 18:44, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

Correction: congratulations, you made FL. Now go and outdo yourself. Cheers, Durova 18:46, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. I've added 15 more names, mostly to the new religious section. I'd much prefer to add to the certain-diagnosis section than the wild speculation section (of which PubMed is perversely the main source – It seems doctors like nothing better than to speculate about the illnesses of dead people). I'm also more likely at this stage to add new or better sources than to find new names. We'll see. Other than comprehensiveness, and working on the sources, I'd be interested in what other improvements you can suggest. I'd also really like you to review the religious section, given your experience. I'm sure it could do with some more work. Colin Harkness°^Talk 20:09, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

Your GA nomination

Please make sure to provide a helpful edit summary (per the instructions and big red box) when editing the nominations list in future. This will help us keep the Good Articles wikiproject running more efficiently. Thanks.  -- Run!  13:03, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

Joan of Arc

Joan of Arc is up for a featured article review. Detailed concerns may be found here. Please leave your comments and help us address and maintain this article's featured quality. Sandy 23:01, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

Wikistalking

Hi Durova,

Just a warning that a vandal might be wikistalking you. Your request to Wikipedia talk:Long term abuse has now been removed twice without explanation by IdlP (talk • contribs) and Rm104 (talk • contribs). --  Netsnipe  ^(Talk)  09:33, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

Even this message was deleted by QFMC (talk • contribs) --  Netsnipe  ^(Talk)  09:55, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

Thank you very much. Durova 13:10, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

Do you know where I can take concerns about Wikistalking? I've followed your lead and noticed other evidence. Durova 13:39, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

I suggest reporting it to Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents and filing Wikipedia:Requests for checkuser on all those you suspect to be same person. --  Netsnipe  ^(Talk)  13:43, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

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Deleted post

Material was posted to this page that violated copyright law. I have deleted it. Durova 13:16, 27 August 2006 (UTC)