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:5. I stand by all the changes I made in that edit. Whether you like them or not is not my concern. The Grant talk page is where you should be heading for this, not complaining about what is, from my point of view, a perfectly valid edit I made in good faith to undo some of the changes you made in a large shotgun edit of your own. - [[User:SchroCat|SchroCat]] ([[User talk:SchroCat#top|talk]]) 08:51, 19 June 2016 (UTC) |
:5. I stand by all the changes I made in that edit. Whether you like them or not is not my concern. The Grant talk page is where you should be heading for this, not complaining about what is, from my point of view, a perfectly valid edit I made in good faith to undo some of the changes you made in a large shotgun edit of your own. - [[User:SchroCat|SchroCat]] ([[User talk:SchroCat#top|talk]]) 08:51, 19 June 2016 (UTC) |
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::Hi, SchroCat. I always look at things honestly. I did not knee-jerk revert anything. I reverted my valid edits. You reverted all my edits. I have not edit warred. You have. Please do not be dismissive of my edits. My edits are no bigger or smaller than yours. I put a lot of thought into each one. You reverted all my edits then walked on the page so my only choice was throw your baby out with the bathwater. I am sorry about that. That is the way Wikipedia is set up. They do not have a way to check-in, check-out pages to avoid edit conflicts, etc. I did not change any content to speak of in my edit. I am going to put my stuff back and I will respect your stuff if you respect mine. If you shotgun revert mine, and then walk on the page, I will have to throw the baby out with the bathwater again to restore my shotgunned. [[WP:BRD]] is an overcited essay, and it is marked as optional. Please do not use it as an excuse to unnecessarily remove my edits scot-free. Do not shotgun revert things. Edit discretely; preserve the good; excise what you think is bad. We are all trying to improve the page. Keep that in mind. Cheers! <code>{{u|[[User:Checkingfax|Checkingfax]]}} {[[User talk:Checkingfax|Talk]]}</code> 09:26, 19 June 2016 (UTC) |
::Hi, SchroCat. I always look at things honestly. I did not knee-jerk revert anything. I reverted my valid edits. You reverted all my edits. I have not edit warred. You have. Please do not be dismissive of my edits. My edits are no bigger or smaller than yours. I put a lot of thought into each one. You reverted all my edits then walked on the page so my only choice was throw your baby out with the bathwater. I am sorry about that. That is the way Wikipedia is set up. They do not have a way to check-in, check-out pages to avoid edit conflicts, etc. I did not change any content to speak of in my edit. I am going to put my stuff back and I will respect your stuff if you respect mine. If you shotgun revert mine, and then walk on the page, I will have to throw the baby out with the bathwater again to restore my shotgunned. [[WP:BRD]] is an overcited essay, and it is marked as optional. Please do not use it as an excuse to unnecessarily remove my edits scot-free. Do not shotgun revert things. Edit discretely; preserve the good; excise what you think is bad. We are all trying to improve the page. Keep that in mind. Cheers! <code>{{u|[[User:Checkingfax|Checkingfax]]}} {[[User talk:Checkingfax|Talk]]}</code> 09:26, 19 June 2016 (UTC) |
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1. {{tq|"You reverted all my edits"}}: Nope. Check again, and you'll see why I said you need to look at the edit honestly. (As a rough comparison, [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Cary_Grant&diff=725945401&oldid=725913899 your edit] added 5,052 character, [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Cary_Grant&diff=725998294&oldid=725998156 my ''partial'' revert] took out 1,235 characters). |
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2. {{tq|"I have not edit warred"}}: [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Cary_Grant&diff=725998526&oldid=725998294 yes, you did] |
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3. {{tq|"I did not change any content to speak of in my edit"}}: so why make the pointless changes? We are not bidden to include spaces in title headings, or within the citation template, so if the editors before you have not included them, why do you have to add them? There's no need, so don't do it; |
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4. {{tq|"I am going to put my stuff back"}}: (aside from the fact that's more pointless edit warring) what, the pointless spaces that do not need to be there? Are you ''really'' that petty that you need to add them just for the sake of it? Ask yourself if it changes the reader's understanding or enjoyment. If not, leave it to the judgement of the people overhauling the article. If you can't help yourself but somehow ''have'' to make such a pointless change, don't whine if it gets reverted because you've edit warred without going through the talk page; |
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5. {{tq|"restore my shotgunned"}}: as I've pointed out twice, your edit was not "shotgunned". Look at the edit and try and be honest with yourself please; |
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5. {{tq|"preserve the good; excise what you think is bad."}} I did. Perhaps – especially given the number of editors who have questioned what you are doing – you should try and LISTEN to what's being told to you. I'm not sure whether it's a case of [[WP:ICANTHEARYOU]] or [[WP:COMPETENCE]] we're dealing with here, but you are being unnecessarily disruptive in forcing such a minor issue for so little benefit to the article, to your fellow editors and to yourself. It may be best for you to step away from the Grant article and develop something yourself where you can put all the unnecessary spaces in that you want. |
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I really don't want to continue this, but unless you want to post an acceptance that I have not "shotgunned" your edit, and that the spaces are pointless and need not be edit warred back into the article, then I suggest you don't post here again. – [[User:SchroCat|SchroCat]] ([[User talk:SchroCat#top|talk]]) 10:15, 19 June 2016 (UTC) |
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Cn"Elias, the son of a potter, worked as a tailor's presser at a clothes factory, while Elsie, who was from a family of shipwrights, worked as a seamstress.[1] " this was previously also backed by the Higham book. I don't think this is all verifiable in ELiot which was why I marked it.♦ Dr. Blofeld 12:59, 18 June 2016 (UTC)
Valid reversion of Cary GrantHi, SchroCat. Shotgun reverting my valid and good faith edits at Cary Grant was uncool. I have rolledback my edits. You may introduce your edits discretely and based on MoS, guidelines, and policy. Cheers!
1. I really don't want to continue this, but unless you want to post an acceptance that I have not "shotgunned" your edit, and that the spaces are pointless and need not be edit warred back into the article, then I suggest you don't post here again. – SchroCat (talk) 10:15, 19 June 2016 (UTC) |
- ^ Eliot 2004, p. 24.