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Again, welcome! Jytdog (talk) 03:17, 8 February 2016 (UTC)

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Proton-pump inhibitor

You were right. Per WP:MEDRS, I shouldn't have replaced the secondary source with a primary source on Proton-pump inhibitor. I have since restored the primary source alongside the preexisting secondary source. The sentence presents the information as "one suggested mechanism", so it would be useful to include where the suggestion comes from with a secondary source as evaluation. Thanks, Mz7 (talk) 01:17, 23 November 2016 (UTC)

November 2016

You have been blocked from editing for a period of 48 hours for persistent disruptive editing. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to make useful contributions. If you think there are good reasons why you should be unblocked, you may request an unblock by first reading the guide to appealing blocks, then adding the following text to the bottom of your talk page: {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}. I don't know what else you were expecting with this (at ANI of all places).  ‑ Iridescent 19:38, 24 November 2016 (UTC)

The only thing I listen to is logic, i.e. logical reasoning as to why the changes were valid, and I failed to see any in that discussion. It is the one thing I wanted. The discussion was pathetic, and so are you for blocking me. Furthermore, if you and the other admins don't understand that Jytdog has a strong bias against alternative medicine, even when MEDRS compliant sources are used, then the problem is with you and the admins. --Hyperforin (talk) 20:57, 24 November 2016 (UTC)

I couldn't care less what Jytdog's biases are or aren't; this is a topic in which I have absolutely no interest. The point you're failing to understand is that it doesn't matter who's right and who's wrong; this is a collaborative project and if you're not willing to engage in discussion with other editors without ranting and abuse, you are not wanted here. ‑ Iridescent 21:29, 24 November 2016 (UTC)

There already was a discussion at Talk:Performance-enhancing_substance#.22Adaptogen.22_content. The changes were proposed and all feedback had been attentively addressed. I don't know what more you want or expect. If there is anyone who circumvented that discussion, it is Jytdog. --Hyperforin (talk) 21:42, 24 November 2016 (UTC)

So you are saying that if someone disagrees with you and you respond, and you feel that your response adequately addressed their concerns, then their disagreement no longer counts? Because that doesn't look like a discussion -- it looks like everyone disagreeing with you. If consensus is clearly against your proposed edits, then you are not allowed implement them, even if you feel that the users who disagree with you are wrong. You need to present evidence and convince more people that everyone who has already objected is wrong. Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 06:45, 25 November 2016 (UTC)

Hijiri 88, I may have emotionally overreacted against you previously. Having said that, only the guilty ask for mercy, and I don't consider myself guilty, which is why I don't want anyone's mercy. I am not here to beg and plead, and I don't want you doing that for me either.
Anyway, I don't know what on earth you're talking about anymore. No one objected to the disputed statement on the Talk page. The disputed statement is "The literature is supportive of adaptogenic properties of R. rosea and S. chinensis."
There isn't really a valid reason for Jytdog having removed it. Oh wait, he works for a pharmaceutical company and has a conflict of interest that would actually explain why he is so opposed to legitimate alternative medicine. Practically every adaptogenic herb has a non-insignificant neurological effect. Also, his best buddy Alexbrn always magically appears to help him out in times of crisis. --Hyperforin (talk) 06:59, 25 November 2016 (UTC)