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Hi dear oshwah

i want public Mehdi nazeri draft pages , He is my favorites Photographer please Check his page and pubic , Thanks a lot best regards — Preceding unsigned comment added by Beach Girl (talk • contribs) 08:41, 1 January 2018 (UTC)

RevDel request

This edit summary. Thank you. -- Radiphus 12:30, 2 January 2018 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) It does not meet the REVDEL criteria. See Wikipedia:Revision_deletion#Criteria_for_redaction. (((The Quixotic Potato))) (talk) 14:57, 3 January 2018 (UTC)

Hi Radiphus, and thanks for leaving me a message here. While the edit summary is certainly not necessary nor positive to the project, it doesn't meet the criteria for redaction. It's not what we would define as "grossly insulting, degrading, or offensive material", and - while it's purely intended to be disruptive - it's not to the level of disruption in that redaction is more beneficial than leaving it available for public viewing. In this case, we want others to see these edit summaries so that they will understand the past disruption from this IP (if such an applicable situation arises in the future where this is relevant). Hiding the edit summary would make this harder and isn't a good idea, so I'm going to leave things be for now.

If you run into any more revisions that you feel should be rev del'd, do let me know and I'll be happy to take a look - just email them to me next time instead. Public talk page messages asking for redaction tend to generate a lot of attention toward the link(s) provided from people wanting to see exactly what information is going to potentially become hidden from view. We want to avoid that ;-). Please also feel free to let me know if you need anything else, and I'll be happy to help. Cheers :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 19:16, 11 January 2018 (UTC)

Your edit to my talk page

Can you please explain this inexplicable addition of a uw-vblock template to my talk page? I had not even been editing, and so far as I can see, I was not actually blocked. NTK (talk) 17:06, 3 January 2018 (UTC)

• NTK, I don't know if Oshwah is online right now, but the block log contains an apology for an incorrect block; you were unblocked immediately. Drmies (talk) 17:08, 3 January 2018 (UTC)
  • Okay, thanks for letting me know, but neither I nor others (so far as I know) can actually see the block log. The template was left on my page (until I just now blanked it), it seems to me the decent thing to do would have been to remove it and apologize there when it was noticed. It would not be too late to do so. I'm guessing this wasn't done because this happened en masse? I don't have a lot of time to go searching for an explanation, it's no big deal but a clean-up is in order. NTK (talk) 17:11, 3 January 2018 (UTC)
    • (talk page watcher) Hi, NTK, just for your info, block logs are visible, and yours is here, with the concomitant unblock and apology. Take care, >SerialNumber54129^{...speculates} 17:15, 3 January 2018 (UTC)

NTK Anyone can see anyone's block log - see here for yours. He must've forgotten to remove the template. Galobtter (pingó mió) 17:13, 3 January 2018 (UTC)

Yeah, I'm sure it was an oversight--it may have been that Oshwah was caught up in a wave of vandalism; leaving an unjustified block template is not his style. Drmies (talk) 17:20, 3 January 2018 (UTC)

NTK - My sincere apologies. I meant to block an account who vandalized an article that you reverted, and I blocked you accidentally. I didn't mean to leave that template on your talk page. If you have any further concerns, please let me know. ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 20:31, 3 January 2018 (UTC)

Less than neautral

What was less than neautral ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Coldrosescat (talk • contribs) 23:58, 10 January 2018 (UTC)

Hi Coldrosescat, and thanks for leaving me a message with your question. If you look at the edits you made here, it appears that the content is written in a manner to intentionally reflect it positively (almost as if it were written to appeal or advertise to the reader) - especially where you add descriptions such as "pest free" (which was later removed). The content also appears to be written based off original research, or based only off of your personal recollection or experience. Please know that original research is not allowed on Wikipedia, and that content added should be worded neutrally and cited by a reliable source when necessary. I highly recommend that you review the pages I linked you to here, and make sure that you understand them. If you have questions about these policies or the pages I've linked you to, please let me know and I'll be happy to answer them and help you. Thanks again, and I wish you happy editing. Best regards -- ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 19:25, 11 January 2018 (UTC)

Keith hill, he has recently retired and borat has taken over please allow me to fix this wiki page

Keith hill, he has recently retired and borat has taken over please allow me to fix this wiki page — Preceding unsigned comment added by Voicer OA (talk • contribs) 19:46, 11 January 2018 (UTC)

No Title

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=819879270 For the above edit I was temped to revert it with reason "Failed to cite a reliable source". Have you ever done something like that? . Lakeside Out!-LakesideMiners^{Click Here To Talk To Me!} 19:58, 11 January 2018 (UTC)

LakesideMiners - This is definitely someone who is causing disruption - warn them accordingly. "Failing to provide a reliable source" warnings should be given to those who have added content that isn't blatant vandalism, but without a reference cited where one should definitely be provided. Please let me know if you have any more questions and I'll be happy to help! Happy editing ;-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 20:33, 11 January 2018 (UTC)

You douche

Change it back, it has perfect and profound importance on today’s social life — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ahurdle (talk • contribs) 21:44, 11 January 2018 (UTC)

the interior design edits

I felt that there was too much info about it. I thought maybe it could use a simpler explanation — Preceding unsigned comment added by MalaKite (talk • contribs) 21:45, 11 January 2018 (UTC)

Hi MalaKite, and thanks for leaving me a message with your explanation of the changes you're making. It's just helpful to other editors when you summarize each of your edits using the edit summary field; it tells other editors exactly what you did and why, and it's a good habit to get into doing each time you make a change. It doesn't have to be a huge in-depth description; it can simply state what you did and why. It'll avoid confusion with other editors (such as in this situation). No big deal, though :-). Thanks again for the message, and please let me know if you need help with anything - I'll be happy to do so. Happy editing :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 21:49, 11 January 2018 (UTC)

no problem Oshwah. Im happy to help in any way to clarify confusion. -MalaKite — Preceding unsigned comment added by MalaKite (talk • contribs) 21:51, 11 January 2018 (UTC)

. RA0808 undid my work on interior design like I gave an adequate reason. is that just a computer program? — Preceding unsigned comment added by MalaKite (talk • contribs) 21:55, 11 January 2018 (UTC)

MalaKite - Nope, RA0808 is an editor just like myself. If he reverted your changes and after you left an edit summary, you'll want to message the user (like you did on my talk page here) and discuss it. Please let me know if you have any more questions and I'll be happy to answer them. Best -- ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 00:03, 12 January 2018 (UTC)

oh I talked to RA0808 alright. he disrespected me. he told me if i wanted simpler explanations i should use simple wiki. like what the heck? I even told him why i did it and that was what he said to me. MalaKite 14:11, 12 January 2018 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by MalaKite (talk • contribs)

(talk page stalker) I chastised RA0808 for speaking to you like that. This is a content dispute. No bad faith or behavioural problems. !dave 15:30, 12 January 2018 (UTC)

Accidental revert?

When you reverted my edit to Outlaw Scumfuc, I was actually redirecting the song to an album by a profane artist. I think you may have made a mistake, as said artist (GG Allin) is known for his profanity. It was a good faith edit. Thanks. --Mayergrade367 (talk) 00:11, 12 January 2018 (UTC)

Hi Mayergrade367 - Upon a second look, I realized that your change was legitimate. I restored your changes and removed the talk page notice I left you. My apologies for the confusion; I revert a lot of vandalism where people add those kinds of words :-). Please let me know if you need anything else and I'll be happy to help you further. Thanks for the message and for the heads up :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 00:15, 12 January 2018 (UTC)

Thank you. It's understandable, because like I said, GG Allin is known for his profanity. This is just for future reference, since I often edit articles related to Allin. --Mayergrade367 (talk) 00:16, 12 January 2018 (UTC)

Mayergrade367 - It's all good; you didn't do anything wrong at all. Keep up the good work and thank you for taking time to improve the project! :-D ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 00:18, 12 January 2018 (UTC)

Hello

Hello Sir,

How are you? Ertogrulaz (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 01:34, 12 January 2018 (UTC)

you must not like jesse roper.... c119282083-v1.0/hctoolkit1.exe — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.54.249.88 (talk) 01:42, 12 January 2018 (UTC)

Bobbi Kristina Brown Article Page

Hi, I just have a question about the article, how can I change back my edit on the page and how do I put source on it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Iamthecece (talk • contribs) 02:13, 12 January 2018 (UTC)

Bobbi Kristina Brown Article Page

Hi, I just have a question about the article, how can I change back my edit on the page and how do I put source on it?

Article

How do I source my edits? Iamthecece (talk) 02:15, 12 January 2018 (UTC)

Help

I really need help on how to cite my page, and if I can't for it then, can you do it for me, please? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Iamthecece (talk • contribs) 02:25, 12 January 2018 (UTC)

Hello, Iamthecece. Please read and study Referencing for beginners. If you want to edit Wikipedia, you need to learn how to create references. This is a basic skill here. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 02:40, 12 January 2018 (UTC)

I'll echo Cullen328 and also highly recommend that you go through and complete Wikipedia's tutorial guide. It's a very useful wizard that will provide you with the important basics regarding this project, how it works, what you need to know, and how to navigate and find important things. You'll definitely be at an advantage and have a smoother learning experience if you do so :-). ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 02:44, 12 January 2018 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Resilient Barnstar
	For excellent service to Wikipedia, and never letting criticism get you down. You're one of the best examples we have of users who are open to criticism and talking to others. It says a lot about your character, and your work is appreciated by many. TonyBallioni (talk) 02:53, 12 January 2018 (UTC)

Hi TonyBallioni! Thank you for the barnstar and for your kind words. While recent events were certainly not easy, I'm still me and I'll always try to help others and diffuse heated situations. I'm not perfect, and I will never be perfect. I can't let things get me down and force me only to look to the past; I have to take what I learned and use it to improve the future :-). ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 03:18, 12 January 2018 (UTC)

Tony's words are spot on. I would've applied WP:NLT myself in that situation, and I actually think that the way you were spoken to was rather uncivil. I really do commend your ability to deal with individuals in such a civil manner at all times. Anyway, I do hope you had a good Christmas holiday and a happy New Year! See you around :) Patient Zero^talk 10:47, 12 January 2018 (UTC)

Patient Zero - Thank you. I appreciate your words very much and I'm happy to see that my commitment to civility, receptive feedback, accountability, communication, and an open door for anyone to talk to me any time and about anything - is noticed by others and looked upon as the right thing to do. I'm happy and comfortable with myself, how I interact with others, and how I handle heated and very tough situations - those traits and skills aren't easily taught and learned, and they're one of the most important aspects with being an experienced and respected member of the community. Don't take this the wrong way: I am certainly not down-playing any mistakes I've ever made or will make in the future. I think of mistakes (and therefore help other editors) with the mindset that.. hey... I make mistakes just like everybody else. They happen. Being someone who has made his share of mistakes has help me to put myself in others' shoes and show them that... it's okay to make mistakes! Pick yourself up and move forward :-).

While, looking back, I certainly would have handled things a little bit differently, I can't take it back and I can only take what I've learned and what others have given to me with input and feedback and apply it moving forward. I'm not perfect, and I'll continue to do things that I later look back upon and say, "yeah, that sucked..." - it's a part of life, and part of not letting your emotions get the best of you is to be okay with that fact :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 11:05, 12 January 2018 (UTC)

I wish everyone here thought like you, Oshwah. Your kindness and positive attitude most certainly do not go unnoticed, and you are definitely doing the right things around here! I do feel as if administrators on WP are often expected to be perfect and of course that's impossible - but I'd personally argue that admitting one's mistakes is better than not ever making them, as you would never learn anything! Take care :) Patient Zero^talk 11:16, 12 January 2018 (UTC)

I appreciate that very much. Oh, and to answer your question: My Christmas was uneventful which was exactly what I wanted... haha. I saw family over Thanksgiving and they're in town to visit this weekend, so I had no "obligations" over Christmas... it was awesome. Just relaxed and did what Oshwah wanted to do ;-). I hope yours was a fun holiday, I thank you again for the kind words, and I tip my hat towards you sir! Until our paths cross again -- ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 11:21, 12 January 2018 (UTC)

No problem - any time :) I had a rather busy Christmas this year with all of my extended family! I don't celebrate Thanksgiving though, as I'm British. New Year's Eve was much quieter and I spent it watching a film. Once again, no problem, and all the best! Patient Zero^talk 11:27, 12 January 2018 (UTC)

Oshwah

Hi oshwa Mmmaaa55 (talk) 03:25, 12 January 2018 (UTC)

Natural Vibrations edits

My edits were not vandalism. They provided additional information or corrected information about a group that I have been writing about since the release of their first album. I appreciate the value Wikipedia provides. However, in the future I'll "bite my tongue" when I see something that is questionable or incorrect and keep what I know to myself. I trust this resolves things for you. 66.162.249.170 (talk) 04:43, 12 January 2018 (UTC)

Hi there, and thank you for leaving me a message here. I saw this edit here, which concerned me. Additionally, your edit here added on to content, which wasn't referenced. The warning I left on your talk page wasn't accurate; it certainly wasn't vandalism - it was just unreferenced. I have modified the warning to be worded in the manner in which it should have been originally; I apologize if you were frustrated with my warning and that I was trying to accuse you of something you weren't doing. That was not my intent. I highly recommend that you review Wikipedia's verifiability policy, as well as how to cite references with your changes. Remember to cite reliable sources wherever possible. Please let me know if you have any questions, and I'll be happy to answer them. Thanks again for leaving me a message, and I wish you happy editing :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 04:49, 12 January 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protection request on Sky Sword II

Hi Oshwah, You had declined my request on Sky Sword II since there were only a couple of disruptions. But the IP hopper has come back and disrupted it again multiple times. Can you please semi-protect it for a few days. You can find more details about the IP hopper here User:Mfb/Taiwanese articles. Thanks. Adamgerber80 (talk) 07:56, 12 January 2018 (UTC)

Adamgerber80 -  Done. Thanks for the heads up and for letting me know that the disruption continued :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 07:58, 12 January 2018 (UTC)

Greetings, you have made a mistake accidently. Sky Sword II is confirmed to be a Mach 6 flying hypersonic missile. This disruptive editor Adamgerber80 (talk) has repeatedly tried to use blocks and other tactics to push his biased pov without any regard to the reliable sources present to him. He even refuses to discuss anything despite pretended to ask people to "take it to the talk page." Please take a look at the sources here:

https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/3338371
and confirm for yourself, the source states very clearly that the Sky Sword II missile can fly at "Mach 6" and by aerospace engineering definition any object that can fly faster than Mach 5 below a height of 90Km is considered to be hypersonic. Thank you for your time! And we apologize to you for Adamgerber80 (talk) uncivilized angry ranting. 119.200.162.166 (talk) 08:06, 12 January 2018 (UTC)

I believe I made no such mistake :-). I changed nothing on the article itself - I simply protected it from further disruption. Using different IP addresses to evade blocks for being disruptive and repeatedly editing the article is not how you resolve this dispute. The article's talk page is here - discuss the dispute, don't edit war. ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 08:11, 12 January 2018 (UTC)

We did not edit disruptively, the only person doing disruptive editing is Adamgerber80 (talk). This user repeatedly ignores, and we do mean repeatedly ignores any reliable sources that are presented to him. Basically anything Adamgerber80 (talk) doesn't like he just ignores. We have made numerous efforts to show him the reliable sources that specifically state that the Sky Sword II travels at Mach 6, which as we mentioned before using aerospace engineering definition any flying object that can fly at speeds of Mach 5 or above below a height of 90 Km in the Earth's atmosphere is considered to be hypersonic. But Adamgerber80 (talk) ignores all the sources and refuses to even read them. Our only intention is to place accurate and most importantly updated accurate information on these articles, and to prove that we are 100% correct, the reliable sources stating that Sky Sword II is a Mach 6 hypersonic missile is provided, please read it, Thanks:

1.) Taiwan Sky Sword II missiles to challenge China’s Sukhoi Su-35 jets

Now we are not religious, we do not push any religious belief on anyone, we respect all benevolent religions, philosophies and we don't take any sides on political issues. We are concerned only with academic accuracy as we are scientists, engineers, doctors and academic scholars and for this example will use the Buddha to explain the situation that is going on now with this uneducated loser Adamgerber80 (talk) who continuously edit wars on subjects that he has no knowledge of, including his recent pov pushing on Indian locomotives with another editor, see here,
Love me so much?
as well as rejecting any new sourced knowledge that does not fit into his preconceived primitive notion of his own self-created and functionally distorted perceived "reality" within his isolated simple mind, which can also be effectively diagnosed as suffering from a severe cognitive dissonance for every individual singular instance that Adamgerber80 (talk) encounters new information which he hasn't previously learned or understood. Since we know Adamgerber80 (talk) is an Indian man of lesser education from a low level caste we will proceed to explain in simple to understand terminology for his benefit. Furthermore, and without going into modern psychology or psychiatric analysis, we can further observe that even over 2500 years ago in India, the Buddha suggested that complex conceptual rational thought and reasoning is a function of what he referred to as the "Third Skandha." To further explain this precept, the Buddha explained that this skandha (also translated as Samjna from the original Sanskrit script which we know Adamgerber80 cannot read), literally translates as "knowledge that links together." So we can see from his repeated and foolish rejection of new reliable information that Adamgerber80 (talk) is unconsciously attempting, albeit unsuccessfully, to "learn" something new by first linking it to a previous set or function of information that he already previously knows, most likely from his high school education, that miraculously managed to get encoded into the neural circuitry of his less complex cerebral cortex. Now it has been observed thoroughly that for the vast majority of his Wikipedia pov pushing "career," spending long hours everyday online (we know Adamgerber80 has no real job to earn money, he is supported financially by his parents), Adamgerber80 (talk) finds that "learning by linking to his previous knowledge" is very useful as most of the articles on Wikipedia are very very simple and easy to read, most on the grammatic and semantical level of elementary, middle and high school students. But many times Adamgerber80 (talk)'s flawed cognitive "reasoning" and glitched neural "system" fails as is self-evident in his unflinching and repeated rejection of any new sourced reliable knowledge which is utterly unrelated to anything that Adamgerber80 (talk) already previously knows or comprehends? This unfortunately usually happens since Adamgerber80 (talk) apparently is not capable of understanding and integrating new knowledge rapidly despite numerous efforts by many editors, including us, to show him reliable sources supporting our fact based good faith edits to improve Wikipedia articles for the benefit of all readers around the world. If Adamgerber80 (talk) really wants to discuss with us, we would be more than happy to discuss and show him the proof of our edits as it is visually obvious, except for the visually impaired, that all of our academic theses are irrefutably supported by reliable sourced references which Adamgerber80 (talk) and his "online Wikipedia friends" continuously and foolishly reject without just cause and without even taking the time to read the reliable sources for themselves. But of course, we have already predicted Adamgerber80 (talk)'s unstable behavior as well as his future course of action, so we know Adamgerber80 (talk) will not even attempt to read, much less comprehend, the new reliable sources of information we present to him. We leave you and Adamgerber80 (talk) with this:
A Zen Buddhist master meets with a professor and starts to make tea for the professor.
The Zen Buddhist master then proceeds to pour a cup of tea for the professor, who keeps talking while holding a cup, the Zen Buddhism master smiles gently and listens to what the professor is saying. And the Zen Buddhist master fills the cup but keeps pouring so that the cup begins overflowing.
The professor stops the Zen Buddhist master and says that the cup is overflowing and no more tea will fill in. The Zen Buddhist master smiles and says to the professor: exactly, if the cup is not empty, it will not make room for the tea, if you want to learn something new, you have to empty your cup.
“Empty your cup so that it may be filled; become devoid to gain totality.” -- Bruce Lee

Additionally, we made an edit, supported by reliable citations, to the article Fifth-generation jet fighter and included the academic sources and reliable references stating that Taiwan is developing a new stealth fighter jet program for which the repeat disruptive editor Adamgerber80 (talk) and a few of his "online Wikipedia friends" continued to ignore the reliable sources provided, all of which specifically states that Taiwan is currently building an advanced next generation stealth jet fighter, indisputable. The job of all editors is to keep Wikipedia updated and accurate with correct information and not be turned into a low quality source of biased and inaccurate information. The sources provided are reliable, forthright and speak for themselves. Hence, we have included the following sources stating that Taiwan is building advanced next generation stealth jet fighters for you to confirm:
1.) Taiwan to develop new stealth fighter jets, ministry says
2.) Taiwan to Seek Development of an Indigenous Stealth Fighter
3.) Taiwan to develop new stealth fighter jets, ministry says

Thanks! 211.250.251.207 (talk) 10:25, 12 January 2018 (UTC)

User talk:Quickenhelpforusa

You may wish to revoke talk page access.--Cahk (talk) 08:42, 12 January 2018 (UTC)

Cahk -  Done. ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 08:44, 12 January 2018 (UTC)

User talk:Dotcaroll23

FYI - this is a once/twice daily LTA spammer.--Cahk (talk) 09:06, 12 January 2018 (UTC)

Cahk - Oh joy... what other accounts is this user related to? How do we know this? Similar spam? Can you list some others so I can get a paper trail rolling? :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 09:10, 12 January 2018 (UTC)

@Oshwah: User:Kimberlylandon3 and User:Orismitchell are examples. Too many to list ... they are all over my list of reported accounts.--Cahk (talk) 09:15, 12 January 2018 (UTC)

Cahk - No worries; that's good enough for me to work off of. Thank you! That's a big help! :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 09:17, 12 January 2018 (UTC)

Draft: Universa Blockchain Protocol

Dear Oshwah, thank you for dropping a line. In fact, I tried to delete the draft page, and I failed to find a way to do so. If you could help me out, I would be very much obliged. Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Artox.rb (talk • contribs) 09:18, 12 January 2018 (UTC)

Hi Artox.rb! I assume that the IP address user that created the article was you. If this is the case, I'll just delete the draft article for you - no problem. ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 09:20, 12 January 2018 (UTC)

Whoaaa nelly!

AIV needs some serious attention. I count 16 unattended cases. Boomer Vial^{Be ready to fight the horde! • Contribs} 09:31, 12 January 2018 (UTC)

Boomer Vial - Alright, give me a few minutes to finish up a couple of things and I'll go through it. Thanks :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 09:32, 12 January 2018 (UTC)

Thank you, Oshwah. :) Boomer Vial^{Be ready to fight the horde! • Contribs} 09:34, 12 January 2018 (UTC)

Boomer Vial - You bet :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 09:35, 12 January 2018 (UTC)

Boomer Vial - Alright, AIV backlog is clear (at the time of this writing at least) ;-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 09:47, 12 January 2018 (UTC)

Again, thank you. While I've got your attention, can I get your opinion on this bizzare sock farm I found? Boomer Vial^{Be ready to fight the horde! • Contribs} 09:50, 12 January 2018 (UTC)

Boomer Vial - No problem; always happy to help :-). And sure, I'm taking a look now - stand by... ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 09:51, 12 January 2018 (UTC)

These two accounts might also possibly be involved. Boomer Vial^{Be ready to fight the horde! • Contribs} 09:53, 12 January 2018 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Boomer Vial - Check out the account creation logs for each user you listed: 1, 2, 3, 4. They were all created within a day of one another, and an account was created from another account you have listed there. When I look for behaviors of sock puppetry, I always look at the user creation log (on top of other things). The account creation timeline usually makes it blatantly obvious - especially when multiple accounts are created within just a few minutes or hours of one another (and taking other editing behaviors into account). I'd say that your nose is on the right track, but none of these accounts have made edits... are they connected to any others that have? ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 09:58, 12 January 2018 (UTC)

I've edited a few times since your last edit here on your talk page. The one I labeled as the Sockmaster has vandalized, as well as the IP I just added. It's obvious by the "Uganda"/"Ugandan"/"Knuckles" theme they are all related. I'm still digging up more,

and more as we speak. Boomer Vial^{Be ready to fight the horde! • Contribs} 10:00, 12 January 2018 (UTC)

I see this edit, which could connect this account to the others. The lack of edits on the other accounts don't help, but I think that the user creation log timeline and the similar words ("knuckle", etc) in each username is sufficient to build a case from. ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 10:03, 12 January 2018 (UTC)

From the few that have, they seem to be targeting pages related to Uganda. Question is which of the numerous account is the sockmaster? Boomer Vial^{Be ready to fight the horde! • Contribs} 10:07, 12 January 2018 (UTC)

So here are my thoughts: I think that the "knuckle" accounts are most likely controlled by the same person. The lack of edits between those similar usernames is what holds me back, since violations of the sock puppetry policy doesn't occur until they use them for disruption. I'm not sure that I see any connection between this "Uganda Warrior 134" account and the others; the only edit between the others was to Jurassic World, which has nothing to do with the article edited by "Uganda warrior" - what specifically links these accounts together? ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 10:11, 12 January 2018 (UTC)

You are talking about Uganda Warrior 134 specifically, right? If so, the intent to vandalize is what links that account to the entire farm. That's what all of the other accounts that have contribution histories have shown. Such as this. Boomer Vial^{Be ready to fight the horde! • Contribs} 10:17, 12 January 2018 (UTC)

Correct. I'm looking for diffs or evidence that actually asserts that these accounts are linked in some way. All I have are a group of accounts with similar usernames and one edit to Jurassic World, and this other account here with some edits to two articles that aren't even closely related to Jurassic World - hopefully you can understand my thinking here. We have a web of users, but I have nothing to connect this account to that web. I don't think there's enough here (with what you've given me here at least) to connect this one account to that group of others, and hence one person. You're on the right track evidence-wise with those "knuckle" accounts (which is mostly circumstantial and with just one edit between them), but I don't see anything to connect this "Uganda Warrior" account to those others. ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 10:22, 12 January 2018 (UTC)

A few of the accounts have shown activity, and I think a few of them are using the same edit summaries between accounts. Give me a minute to dig them up. Boomer Vial^{Be ready to fight the horde! • Contribs} 10:25, 12 January 2018 (UTC)

I think these two edits should suffice to wrap the whole thing up nicely, bow-on-top included. Boomer Vial^{Be ready to fight the horde! • Contribs} 10:30, 12 January 2018 (UTC)

AHA! Okay, now I'm on board :-). That's what I was looking for. You file an SPI yet? If you haven't, you should ;-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 10:34, 12 January 2018 (UTC)

No, I haven't yet, as I'm still digging them up via the user creation log. I will do so just as soon as I've found the last of the socks the dryer ate. Boomer Vial^{Be ready to fight the horde! • Contribs} 10:38, 12 January 2018 (UTC)

Well if they're all created from the same IP or range, a checkuser will save you that work - I think you have enough to open an SPI and just have them look for others. We definitely know that sock puppetry and disruption is going on; that's a good start to the SPI you file :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 10:39, 12 January 2018 (UTC)

Should I use the account that vandalized the Jurassic Park article as the sockmaster? Boomer Vial^{Be ready to fight the horde! • Contribs} 10:53, 12 January 2018 (UTC)

Use the account you found with the oldest creation log (AKA the account in the string of sock puppets that's been here the longest). If you're wrong, no big deal - a clerk can easily fix that. ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 10:56, 12 January 2018 (UTC)

In that case, the sockmaster would be this account, as the creation of accounts with the phrases "Uganda" and "Knuckles" dies out before the above mentioned account was created. Hell, at this point I might as well just link this conversation, as it pretty much sums the whole thing up. Well, thank you for helping me figure out that headache. Boomer Vial^{Be ready to fight the horde! • Contribs} 11:01, 12 January 2018 (UTC)

Hey, no problem! Always happy to lend a hand whenever you need it :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 11:09, 12 January 2018 (UTC)

 Complete Sockpuppet investigation can be found here. Boomer Vial^{Be ready to fight the horde! • Contribs} 11:25, 12 January 2018 (UTC)

user page

Hello Oshwah,

may I ask you for a full-protection of my user page? Non-admin users and IPs are editing it. I don't intend to edit my user page any time soon, so a full-protection would be very appreciated. Thanks, --Avoided (talk) 11:26, 12 January 2018 (UTC) https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Oshwah&action=edit&section=23

Avoided - I applied indefinite full move protection and indefinite extended confirmed edit protection to your user page for you. Fully protecting it from editing would disallow you from being able to change your own userpage if I did that ;-). Please let me know if you need anything else, and I'll be happy to help. Cheers -- ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 11:30, 12 January 2018 (UTC)

All right. Have a nice day. --Avoided (talk) 11:35, 12 January 2018 (UTC)

You as well, Avoided! :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 11:38, 12 January 2018 (UTC)

RFC

Hi Oshwah, My cited and sourced edits continue to be deleted by the same editor on The Satanic Temple, you were kind enough to step in before and stop the war, if you could add a vote on the RFC that might help settle the issues going forward. Thank you. Seanbonner (talk) 11:38, 12 January 2018 (UTC) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:The_Satanic_Temple#RfC:_How_should_The_Satanic_Temple_be_labeled_by_the_lead_sentence_of_its_article?

Hi Seanbonner! I can certainly give the article a read-though and take a look at the RFC, but I might not have enough of an opinion or input to be able to contribute to it. However, I'll see what I can do for you :-). Please let me know if you need anything else. Cheers -- ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 12:17, 12 January 2018 (UTC)

January 2018

Hello, I'm Flyer22 Reborn. I wanted to let you know that I reverted one of your recent contributions —the one you made with this edit to Holden Commodore (VL)— because it did not appear constructive. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thanks. Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 19:16, 12 January 2018 (UTC)

Flyer22 Reborn - I'm sorry, I promise I will never vandalize Wikipedia again it was just a prank bro ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 19:17, 12 January 2018 (UTC)

LOL! Sorry about that. Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 19:22, 12 January 2018 (UTC)

Flyer22 Reborn - Happens all the time - no worries ;-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 19:23, 12 January 2018 (UTC)

Serial sock

If you could look here for a sec, this I pinged @Favonian:, but they are away, and the affected articles are increasing at an alarming rate. Any help would be appreciated. Too many articles to request page protection, I think. This has been going on for weeks now. Scr★pIron^IV 19:17, 12 January 2018 (UTC)

Hi ScrapIronIV - sure, I'm taking a look now. Stand by... ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 19:18, 12 January 2018 (UTC)

Thank you so much for a quick response - I realized that if I continued to revert, then I would become part of the problem... :-) Scr★pIron^IV 19:22, 12 January 2018 (UTC)

You bet. That IP was clearly one of many that's been block evading and adding the same content back to these articles. Looks like I might have to make a round and hit some of these articles with a grey lock - this disruption looks to back weeks on some of these... ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 19:24, 12 January 2018 (UTC)

Very persistent, this one. Let's all be thankful for the bulk-revert scripts! Favonian (talk) 19:28, 12 January 2018 (UTC)

Yes. Definitely. The revert script I use saved a ton of time... ;-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 19:30, 12 January 2018 (UTC)

Alright, I went through each article that this IP edited and put a two-week semi on the ones that were getting hit hard. If more IPs spring up or if I need to look at an article that's being peppered up by this user, let me know and I'll be happy to do so. Cheers :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 19:34, 12 January 2018 (UTC)

Hello!

Hello Oshwah, I new to Wikipedia and I'm sure to have made a mistake or two. Nothing deliberate at all.

I do have a question for you and I hope that you can help me out. When I click on the "bell", located at the top of my screen, I have a few new messages. One message, from "Mvcg66b3r", indicates that "....is clearly not here to contribute to Wikipedia....". I've tied clicking on that message to find out more, but I am unable. Yes, this is a case of a new user, but maybe you can help me to understand: (a)how to get to the message (insult!), and (b)how to resolve the problem.

Cheers, Rick-7 (talk) 20:42, 12 January 2018 (UTC)

Hi Rick-7, and welcome to Wikipedia! The "bell" you're referring to is your notifications. You can view the full list of your notifications by clicking here. I'm not sure exactly what that notification refers to; I'd have to have you type exactly what the notification is stating. A good tip: You can change your notification settings in your preferences under the "notifications" tab (or by clicking here). Please let me know if you have any more questions. I also highly recommend that you go through and complete this Wikipedia tutorial - it will provide you with a lot of important information and help you to learn the basics of navigating through the project, where important guidelines and information is located, and how to collaborate and network with others. It'll make your experience much better and the learning curve much more smooth for you. If you have any more questions, please don't hesitate to ask me them. I'll be happy to help you. Again, welcome! :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 21:06, 12 January 2018 (UTC)

Filth

Hey Oshwah, hope your well. Can you do something with this troll? Best regards. Cassianto^Talk 19:08, 12 January 2018 (UTC)

Hi Cassianto! It's good to run into you once again! This IP looks to be evading a block, so I've handled it accordingly ;-). Please let me know if you need anything else and I'll be happy to help. Cheers - ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 20:55, 12 January 2018 (UTC)

The three day rangeblock I put on 197.251.173.184/19 expired. Extended it. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 21:02, 12 January 2018 (UTC)

NeilN - Perfect! Thanks for doing that. I wasn't aware that this was disruption over a range. I'll need to take a gander and see what this user has been up to... ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 21:03, 12 January 2018 (UTC)

Thanks to both of you. Cassianto^Talk 21:53, 12 January 2018 (UTC)

ANI Close

It's really disheartening to read your closing statement here. The "logical next step" should have been closing the ANI report. A lot of potential "next steps" were skipped when SarekOfVulcan jumped to a block. Surely you of all people could sympathize with that. Mr Ernie (talk) 21:13, 12 January 2018 (UTC)

Hi Mr Ernie, and thanks for leaving me a message here with your input and thoughts. My closing statement on the ANI (and what I stated on Darkness Shines' talk page) was absolutely not intended to cause feelings of discouragement and frustration. My goal was to try and explain why such a block (in this situation) was warranted. I believe that 'Darkness' felt that his report was correct and legitimate, and I have no qualms or issues with anybody asking for admin assistance - even if they turn out to be wrong. If it were up to me, I wouldn't have called the block a "bad-faith IBAN report" and I wouldn't have applied one for two weeks; I don't believe that the ANI was created with the intention of stirring the pot of causing disruption to the project. However, I don't believe that the block was poorly placed. He was discussing an interaction ban, one that actively applied to him as a sanction. When he began to become frustrated and argue his thoughts in the manner that he did, he was given a final warning to stop, drop the stick, and walk away. Had he had just said, "Okay, I'll drop the stick" and left things at that, I don't think he would have been blocked (I certainly wouldn't have placed one after he agreed to calm down and stop). He chose not to. While I would have handled the duration and block reason differently, I believe that SarekOfVulcan was more than fair to 'Darkness' in regards to allowing him to argue his point and voice some (completely understandable) frustration. But when he wouldn't respond to repeated attempts to drop the stick, he continued, and this what drove the block to be applied. Are blocks like these usually necessary in this situation? Yes (especially given that he's discussion a two-way IBAN involving him). Do blocks like these make me happy? Absolutely not. It never feels good to see a user legitimately trying to express frustration, and have things end where we have to block someone :-/. I appreciate you for voicing your concerns here, and I hope my response here has helped to explain my viewpoint and what I was trying to accomplish with these statements. If you have any more questions or concerns, please know that my talk page is always open to you. You are welcome here, and your input and feedback is welcome here. I'll do my very best to try and listen and help. ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 21:40, 12 January 2018 (UTC)

Oshwah, this was a shit block and you should be able to recognize it. Given Sarek's involvement with DS, he is in no position to block him. It's something that Sarek has been admonished for doing before as well. Nihlus 21:43, 12 January 2018 (UTC)

Nihlus - I am not aware of any past admonishments given to SarekOfVulcan as you described - I'll give it a read as a completely neutral party and examine what happened and what was done. Who knows, maybe there will be good information regarding community input in these situations that might help. Although I agree that the duration and reasoning given was much different than I would have applied, given the fact that this is an IBAN sanction involving him and the continued responses after being asked to stop, a block wasn't unfair. I'm of course not taking WP:AC/DS or involvement into account (I think you meant AC/DS when you said "DS"?). If you could elaborate or explain further, I'd like to understand your thoughts and discuss them if you wish. ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 21:55, 12 January 2018 (UTC)

I was referring to Darkness with DS. Also, you can find some info at Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/SarekOfVulcan 2. There have also been Arbcom cases. Nihlus 21:57, 12 January 2018 (UTC)

Feel free to file one if you think it's necessary. --SarekOfVulcan (talk) 21:58, 12 January 2018 (UTC)

No where did I imply that; however, given your history and continued inability to demonstrate self-control, I am sure it will get there eventually. Nihlus 22:01, 12 January 2018 (UTC)

This episode has reached a sad but inevitable end. C.W. Gilmore was also blocked for an IBAN violation, and Darkness Shines has apparently retired with a note that he will be back soon under a new account. Sarek I hope you still think you’ve done the right thing. Mr Ernie (talk) 18:14, 13 January 2018 (UTC)

Uh oh! I saw that edit summary note too - I hope that Darkness Shines knows that he cannot do this. Per Wikipedia's clean start policy, you're not eligible for this if you have any active sanctions or editing restrictions - his IBAN disqualifies him from doing this in compliance with policy. This would be considered an attempt to evade and avoid community scrutiny with his edits and would fall into the sock puppetry realm very easily. ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 18:24, 13 January 2018 (UTC)

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Don't get it? Don't worry, it's just a joke. —k6ka 🍁 (Talk · Contributions) 23:23, 12 January 2018 (UTC)

Untitled

Hi it was mistake...I was just learning how to edit a wiki page...It won't happen again.Thanks for your concern. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Thamizh43 (talk • contribs) 14:54, 13 January 2018 (UTC)

sorry my son got on my computer sorry for the inconvenience. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.163.239.159 (talk) 15:06, 13 January 2018 (UTC)

You changed my stuff on Guardians of the Galaxy Vol 2. I know what I am talking about i watched it last night. And by the way i didnt vandalize anything! Interesting but weird hair by the way. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.203.252.140 (talk) 17:14, 13 January 2018 (UTC)

Vandal

Hey, he did it again on my user page. different IP address. I appreciate what you do. Garuda28 (talk) 18:52, 13 January 2018 (UTC)

Garuda28 - Thanks for letting me know - all taken care of. Please let me know if you need anything else or if more come your way, and I'll gladly handle it for you :-). Cheers - ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 19:06, 13 January 2018 (UTC)

Looks like he’s spamming IP addresses. While I hate to do it, is there a way to keep IPs from posting on my page? Garuda28 (talk) 19:10, 13 January 2018 (UTC)

Garuda28 - Way ahead of ya ;-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 19:12, 13 January 2018 (UTC)

Much approximated! Have a great day!Garuda28 (talk) 19:14, 13 January 2018 (UTC)

Garuda28 - You bet; always happy to help :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 19:15, 13 January 2018 (UTC)

Vandal part two

Hey, stop vandalizing other vandals' vandalisms. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 221.142.228.135 (talk) 18:56, 13 January 2018 (UTC)

Please block IP

217.197.136.43 vandalizing Kotromanić dynasty. PLease do something--C3r4 ((ask me)) 19:36, 13 January 2018 (UTC)

C3r4 -  Done. Let me know if you need anything else and I'll be happy to help :-). Cheers - ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 19:37, 13 January 2018 (UTC)

OK, that was fast. Good job. Best regards, --C3r4 ((ask me)) 19:41, 13 January 2018 (UTC)

There is another abusing IP again (220.136.122.222). On my talk page. I've guess it's open proxy. --C3r4 ((ask me)) 19:47, 13 January 2018 (UTC)

C3r4 - All taken care of ;-). Let me know if you see any more and I'll be happy to zap em. Cheers - ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 19:52, 13 January 2018 (UTC)

Strange userpage and "threat"

Hi,

I came across [[[REDACTED - Oshwah]|this]], which looks a bit queer: I have no idea what he means by "threat", and the previous revision seems to be a BLP violation. Does this need to be revdelled? Thanks. Adam9007 (talk) 00:03, 14 January 2018 (UTC)

Adam9007 - I went ahead and err'd on the side of caution and just deleted it as a G2. While the G2 policy states that it cannot be used within the user space (and applying it to a sandbox too... lol), this is a case where I'm willing to do so anyways given the information added to the page - thanks for letting me know about this. If you need anything else, you know where to find me :-). Cheers -- ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 00:09, 14 January 2018 (UTC)

Thanks! I've also just come across this. Is there a guideline about posting information about other people (I assume it's someone else) in one's userspace? (the first revision claimed the page is for testing) Further complicating this is that the word has multiple meanings, and it surely depends on which one is intended? Adam9007 (talk) 00:19, 14 January 2018 (UTC)

Adam9007 - This just looks like childish test editing / junk to me - I'm just going to leave well enough alone. But to answer your question: If a user begins adding things to their user space about other people... it depends on what they're adding about them when it comes to determining whether or not the content violates policy. What you'll typically see in regards to violations like this are the creation of attack pages (which we delete per G10), or the creation blatant advertising or promotion of someone (which we delete per G11). If you need anything else, you know where to find me ;-). Cheers - ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 02:51, 14 January 2018 (UTC)

(buttinsky) I would have deleted it as an attack page. In fact I think I still will. "So-and-so is gay" is one of the most common forms of juvenile vandalism here, and it is virtually always intended as an insult to someone the user knows in Real Life. (I once read a satirical description of what WP editors are like; one of the characteristics alleged is that WP editors "obviously have lots of gay friends.") --MelanieN (talk) 03:00, 14 January 2018 (UTC)

MelanieN - A G10 would be acceptable, too. Go for it :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 03:10, 14 January 2018 (UTC)

There's WP:USERBIO, which says: Personal information of other persons without their consent. Whether "gay" would be considered personal information depends on the sense used. Adam9007 (talk) 03:29, 14 January 2018 (UTC)

Big broom, please

Would you consider trying to sweep up after the soap opera that took place earlier here? I put up the template to try avoiding commotion but that didn't work. ;) Would like to have it settled so it can't be continued later. I've never spoken with you before, so it can't be said I asked one of my friends to do the clean up. Thanks, We hope (talk) 02:25, 14 January 2018 (UTC)

Hi We hope - Happy Saturday (or... Sunday... depending on where you're from)! I'm confused on what's going on and what you need me to assist you with exactly. You diff here is to an edit where you remove part of Jcc's comment and then state that you've done so. But that edit also has a "diff to check" which is here - an edit that contains a another diff to this edit, where Jcc added to his comment (which is part of what you later removed from it). I'm not sure what you're asking when you say that you need me to "sweep up" something on this page? I mean, sure, Jcc's comment wasn't the most positive one in the world... and yeah, the part of his comment asking SagaciousPhil is going to play the role of an "attack dog" is snippy... but I'm not sure why you removed part of it. Did you respond to his comment and express your concerns to him directly? what did he say when you tried to talk to him? ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 02:45, 14 January 2018 (UTC)

It started as my removal of his PAs against others. Knew there would probably be a storm about altering his remarks, so I thought it would be smart to have an admin take a look at what was removed and why. He had been altering his posts after the reply, so I added the altered diff. You see the result of the "conversation" on the TP. When I asked if he thought the other editor deserved to be called an "attack dog", his reply is here, hence My BS remark. The accusations of this being a "stunt" to silence the opposition, etc. came before that. I'm not viewing this as a civil discussion in the least. It looks like he's free to dole this out ad lib and unhappy when it's responded to in kind. We hope (talk) 03:18, 14 January 2018 (UTC)

We hope - It's not a big deal if someone wants to alter their own comments to add more to it, fix things, clarify, or remove things (if they're doing so to correct or clarify). If they want to redact or "take back" something they say, it should done by striking out the text instead of removing it. I'm not sure why you're adding diffs about this and pointing to them so much.

Well, yeah... when you make responses to him with comments such as this, and then follow-up up with even more incivility - of course it's not going to be a civil discussion in the least... lol. Why would you do that? This isn't making you look any better in my eyes than what you feel his edits were making you feel. That is not an acceptable way to behave and not a way to get your point across. So basically from what I read: there was a snippy comment you felt was out of line, you asked him about it, his response wasn't what you wanted, and now you're being uncivil and combative towards him...

What do you want me to do? ..... ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 03:38, 14 January 2018 (UTC)

Forget it We hope (talk) 03:47, 14 January 2018 (UTC)

We hope - I wasn't trying to scold you and I'm not trying to chase you away from here or put you down at all. When I see an issue, I want to make sure that everyone who needs to be talked to and learn from it, and that I treat everyone with the same mindset. I'm just trying to emphasize to you that responding to what you perceive as incivility and with incivility isn't going to resolve the issue or improve the nature and demeanor of the discussion. I think what you need to do is step back from the discussion and let things go for now. When discussions start going in the direction that it's at right now, it never ends well. Let's step back for a bit and re-evaluate how we're collaborating here :-). If you want to move the discussion toward a positive direction, I suggest apologizing to him for the comments and try and work with him to keep the discussion positive. Let me know how this goes, and I'll be happy to help you if you need anything - just respond and ask :-). Cheers - ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 04:03, 14 January 2018 (UTC)

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Can i ask you why you deleted my artical — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nickyjamelcangri2326 (talk • contribs) 03:23, 14 January 2018 (UTC)