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The result was '''keep'''. AFD is for deleting articles, not discussing improvements, mergers or renames. Feel free to discuss those on the talk page of the article. Thank you! [[User:Missvain|Missvain]] ([[User talk:Missvain|talk]]) 03:28, 21 December 2020 (UTC) |
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Pointless split of article. It needs trimming to remove daily counts and just show significant points in the timeline rather than splitting. This needs merging back to [[Timeline of the COVID-19 pandemic in the Republic of Ireland (January–June 2020)]] and renamed back to [[Timeline of the COVID-19 pandemic in the Republic of Ireland]]. [[User:Noq|noq]] ([[User talk:Noq|talk]]) 17:23, 13 December 2020 (UTC) |
Pointless split of article. It needs trimming to remove daily counts and just show significant points in the timeline rather than splitting. This needs merging back to [[Timeline of the COVID-19 pandemic in the Republic of Ireland (January–June 2020)]] and renamed back to [[Timeline of the COVID-19 pandemic in the Republic of Ireland]]. [[User:Noq|noq]] ([[User talk:Noq|talk]]) 17:23, 13 December 2020 (UTC) |
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* '''Keep:''' Absolutely rubbish. This is seriously such a bad reason to delete the article... The idea of splitting the article → [[Timeline of the COVID-19 pandemic in the Republic of Ireland]] to two separate articles → [[Timeline of the COVID-19 pandemic in the Republic of Ireland (January–June 2020)]] and [[Timeline of the COVID-19 pandemic in the Republic of Ireland (July–December 2020)]] is the right decision made by [[User:Love of Corey]]. '''The daily counts of cases, deaths, de-notified cases, de-notified deaths and probable deaths are there for a reason.''' They <u>must be there</u> and <u>will be there</u> until this [[COVID-19 pandemic|pandemic]] is over. |
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:Many COVID-19 articles also include daily counts on their timeline section, for example the timeline section of the [[COVID-19 pandemic in Jamaica]] article. They're timeline section includes daily counts along with significant points as well, and so they're article size is very long because of this. |
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:'''I strongly believe that this article should not be deleted.''' Daily counts should not be deleted. ''If deleted, all good faith edits contributed by myself and other fellow Irish Wikipedians editing will be deleted which is a terrible thing to do.'' '''I strongly believe that this article and the January–June article should not be deleted and should remain the same.''' [[User:Edl-irishboy|Edl-irishboy]] ([[User talk:Edl-irishboy|talk]]) 18:35, 13 December 2020 (UTC) |
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::A bit of an over reaction there. Bearing in mind [[WP:NOTSTATS]] and [[WP:NOTNEWS]], what is the enduring encyclopaedic value of day by day totals? If they are absolutely needed, then a table would suffice and no need for an article split. Why <u>must</u> they remain and why only until the pandemic is over, if they are not needed after then why have them now? [[User:Noq|noq]] ([[User talk:Noq|talk]]) 20:27, 13 December 2020 (UTC) |
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::: I'm sorry, I did overreact a bit there. I didn't mean that after the pandemic is over, these articles will be deleted. The reason for this spit is because, in accordance with [[WP:SPLIT]], the length of the original article was extremely long, so it was split into two different articles. Never mind about the daily counts, because I think that's irrelevant to this discussion at the moment. The [[COVID-19 pandemic in the Republic of Ireland]] article has been split into 4 different articles already, because of the length and size of the original article. It was split first from the original timeline section to the [[Timeline of the COVID-19 pandemic in the Republic of Ireland]] article, then to the [[Social impact of the COVID-19 pandemic in the Republic of Ireland]] article, then to the [[Economic impact of the COVID-19 pandemic in the Republic of Ireland]] article, and finally the split to the two timeline articles. From my understanding, the split of the timeline articles is in accordance with [[WP:SPLIT]]. [[User:Edl-irishboy|Edl-irishboy]] ([[User talk:Edl-irishboy|talk]]) 22:50, 13 December 2020 (UTC) |
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:<small class="delsort-notice">Note: This discussion has been included in the [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Ireland|list of Ireland-related deletion discussions]]. [[User:CAPTAIN RAJU|<span style="font-family: Bradley Hand ITC;">'''CAPTAIN RAJU'''</span>]]<sup>[[User_talk:CAPTAIN RAJU|(T)]]</sup> 17:46, 13 December 2020 (UTC)</small> |
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:<small class="delsort-notice">Note: This discussion has been included in the [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/COVID-19|list of COVID-19-related deletion discussions]]. [[User:CAPTAIN RAJU|<span style="font-family: Bradley Hand ITC;">'''CAPTAIN RAJU'''</span>]]<sup>[[User_talk:CAPTAIN RAJU|(T)]]</sup> 17:46, 13 December 2020 (UTC)</small> |
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:<small class="delsort-notice">Note: This discussion has been included in the [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Medicine|list of Medicine-related deletion discussions]]. [[User:CAPTAIN RAJU|<span style="font-family: Bradley Hand ITC;">'''CAPTAIN RAJU'''</span>]]<sup>[[User_talk:CAPTAIN RAJU|(T)]]</sup> 17:46, 13 December 2020 (UTC)</small> |
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:<small class="delsort-notice">Note: This discussion has been included in the [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Health and fitness|list of Health and fitness-related deletion discussions]]. [[User:CAPTAIN RAJU|<span style="font-family: Bradley Hand ITC;">'''CAPTAIN RAJU'''</span>]]<sup>[[User_talk:CAPTAIN RAJU|(T)]]</sup> 17:46, 13 December 2020 (UTC)</small> |
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*'''Speedy Keep''' AfD is not for bickering about a structural split by date; it's for deletion discussions. The appropriate processes are at [[WP:SPLIT]] and [[WP:MERGE]]. I looked to see whether there 's any discussion on the talk pages for these timeline articles and couldn't find anything. The closest seems to be at [[Talk:COVID-19_pandemic_in_the_Republic_of_Ireland#Splitting_the_article_ideas]], which is a higher level still. The final form of these pages must naturally wait upon the passage of time when the topic is better understood and there's some historical perspective. [[user:Andrew Davidson|Andrew]]🐉([[user talk:Andrew Davidson|talk]]) 22:46, 13 December 2020 (UTC) |
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*'''Weak keep''' - I only created the article [[WP:BOLD]]ly out of [[WP:SIZE]] concerns for the original timeline article, but if an immediate trimming solution can be figured out, I'm all in for it. Otherwise, we could just wait until the pandemic winds down before we figure this out. [[User:Love of Corey|Love of Corey]] ([[User talk:Love of Corey|talk]]) 02:25, 14 December 2020 (UTC) |
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*'''Keep''' I presume that the mentioned reason is not great enough for the deletion of the article. The plausible problems of the article can be removed by keeping "Timeline of the COVID-19 pandemic in the Republic of Ireland (July–December 2020)". [[User:Ali Ahwazi|Ali Ahwazi]] ([[User talk:Ali Ahwazi|talk]]) 10:37, 14 December 2020 (UTC) |
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*<s>KEEP: naturally meets SIGCOV and passes the NCTEST [[User:The Ace in Spades|The Ace in Spades]] ([[User talk:The Ace in Spades|talk]]) 11:54, 15 December 2020 (UTC)</s> <small>— [[User:The Ace in Spades|The Ace in Spades]] ([[User talk:The Ace in Spades|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/The Ace in Spades|contribs]]) is a confirmed [[Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Waskerton|sock puppet]] of [[User:Waskerton|Waskerton]] ([[User talk:Waskerton|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Waskerton|contribs]]). </small> |
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was keep. AFD is for deleting articles, not discussing improvements, mergers or renames. Feel free to discuss those on the talk page of the article. Thank you! Missvain (talk) 03:28, 21 December 2020 (UTC)
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Pointless split of article. It needs trimming to remove daily counts and just show significant points in the timeline rather than splitting. This needs merging back to Timeline of the COVID-19 pandemic in the Republic of Ireland (January–June 2020) and renamed back to Timeline of the COVID-19 pandemic in the Republic of Ireland. noq (talk) 17:23, 13 December 2020 (UTC)
- Keep: Absolutely rubbish. This is seriously such a bad reason to delete the article... The idea of splitting the article → Timeline of the COVID-19 pandemic in the Republic of Ireland to two separate articles → Timeline of the COVID-19 pandemic in the Republic of Ireland (January–June 2020) and Timeline of the COVID-19 pandemic in the Republic of Ireland (July–December 2020) is the right decision made by User:Love of Corey. The daily counts of cases, deaths, de-notified cases, de-notified deaths and probable deaths are there for a reason. They must be there and will be there until this pandemic is over.
- Many COVID-19 articles also include daily counts on their timeline section, for example the timeline section of the COVID-19 pandemic in Jamaica article. They're timeline section includes daily counts along with significant points as well, and so they're article size is very long because of this.
- I strongly believe that this article should not be deleted. Daily counts should not be deleted. If deleted, all good faith edits contributed by myself and other fellow Irish Wikipedians editing will be deleted which is a terrible thing to do. I strongly believe that this article and the January–June article should not be deleted and should remain the same. Edl-irishboy (talk) 18:35, 13 December 2020 (UTC)
- A bit of an over reaction there. Bearing in mind WP:NOTSTATS and WP:NOTNEWS, what is the enduring encyclopaedic value of day by day totals? If they are absolutely needed, then a table would suffice and no need for an article split. Why must they remain and why only until the pandemic is over, if they are not needed after then why have them now? noq (talk) 20:27, 13 December 2020 (UTC)
- I'm sorry, I did overreact a bit there. I didn't mean that after the pandemic is over, these articles will be deleted. The reason for this spit is because, in accordance with WP:SPLIT, the length of the original article was extremely long, so it was split into two different articles. Never mind about the daily counts, because I think that's irrelevant to this discussion at the moment. The COVID-19 pandemic in the Republic of Ireland article has been split into 4 different articles already, because of the length and size of the original article. It was split first from the original timeline section to the Timeline of the COVID-19 pandemic in the Republic of Ireland article, then to the Social impact of the COVID-19 pandemic in the Republic of Ireland article, then to the Economic impact of the COVID-19 pandemic in the Republic of Ireland article, and finally the split to the two timeline articles. From my understanding, the split of the timeline articles is in accordance with WP:SPLIT. Edl-irishboy (talk) 22:50, 13 December 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Ireland-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU(T) 17:46, 13 December 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of COVID-19-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU(T) 17:46, 13 December 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Medicine-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU(T) 17:46, 13 December 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Health and fitness-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU(T) 17:46, 13 December 2020 (UTC)
- Speedy Keep AfD is not for bickering about a structural split by date; it's for deletion discussions. The appropriate processes are at WP:SPLIT and WP:MERGE. I looked to see whether there 's any discussion on the talk pages for these timeline articles and couldn't find anything. The closest seems to be at Talk:COVID-19_pandemic_in_the_Republic_of_Ireland#Splitting_the_article_ideas, which is a higher level still. The final form of these pages must naturally wait upon the passage of time when the topic is better understood and there's some historical perspective. Andrew🐉(talk) 22:46, 13 December 2020 (UTC)
- Weak keep - I only created the article WP:BOLDly out of WP:SIZE concerns for the original timeline article, but if an immediate trimming solution can be figured out, I'm all in for it. Otherwise, we could just wait until the pandemic winds down before we figure this out. Love of Corey (talk) 02:25, 14 December 2020 (UTC)
- Keep I presume that the mentioned reason is not great enough for the deletion of the article. The plausible problems of the article can be removed by keeping "Timeline of the COVID-19 pandemic in the Republic of Ireland (July–December 2020)". Ali Ahwazi (talk) 10:37, 14 December 2020 (UTC)
KEEP: naturally meets SIGCOV and passes the NCTEST The Ace in Spades (talk) 11:54, 15 December 2020 (UTC)— The Ace in Spades (talk • contribs) is a confirmed sock puppet of Waskerton (talk • contribs).
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.