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The result was redirect‎ to Clarence Railway. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 23:33, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Simpasture railway station

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Fails GNG. Of the seven sources, two are trivial mentions, four don't mention the station at all, and one (Priestley) has brief mentions of a station of similar name but many decades earlier. A BEFORE search does not find anything more substantial. My bold redirect to Clarence Railway was removed by the article's creator. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 20:03, 5 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Stations, Transportation, and United Kingdom. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 20:03, 5 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of England-related deletion discussions. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 00:10, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Löschen as per nomination. Sadly, this now-gone depot was only notable at a local level. TH1980 (talk) 03:02, 9 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It existed at one point and is documented to have. Why not accept it was once around when ROF Aycliffe existed. DragonofBatley (talk) 08:26, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per WP: Consistency and per WP: Notable. As it's got coverage in quite a few books and articles. DragonofBatley (talk) 17:05, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Once again, you're making up a non-existent "consistency" policy, this article cites no books, and the citations present do not give significant coverage of the station. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 14:20, 14 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It existed at one point and is documented to have. So you should get over it and accept it was once around when ROF Aycliffe existed. DragonofBatley (talk) 08:26, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I don't need to "get over" anything, train stations are not notable on Wikipedia simply by virtue of once existing, per community consensus. You don't get to ignore community consensus just because it's your article. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 12:32, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Relisting as there is a difference of opinion on the quality of the sources.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 22:37, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to Clarence Railway per nomination. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 14:20, 14 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It existed DragonofBatley (talk) 08:26, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The WP:IDHT is strong with you, train stations are not notable solely for having once existed. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 12:32, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
P. Off DragonofBatley (talk) 20:43, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Looks like No consensus. When presenting your argument, please cite current, relevant policy and guidelines and focus on the article and its sources, not other contributors.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 23:17, 19 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to Clarence Railway as a WP:ATD. S5A-0043^Talk 21:45, 23 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

~~Keep~~ per WP: Notability. DragonofBatley (talk) 20:32, 24 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Kommentar: I haven't looked through all the sources yet, but no one has disputed Pi.1415926535's analysis, so I lean towards redirecting this. More importantly, are we just going to let this remark from DragonofBatley slide? I'm pretty sure that's a personal attack. Toadspike [Talk] 15:44, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
After re-reading DoB's comments to make sense of this, I see no valid argument for keeping this article. If DoB can provide citations to the "quite a few books" they claim that cover this station, they can ping me and I'll reconsider. Toadspike [Talk] 15:47, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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 Fails [[WP:GNG|GNG]]. Of the seven sources, two are trivial mentions, four don't mention the station at all, and one (Priestley) has brief mentions of a station of similar name but many decades earlier. A BEFORE search does not find anything more substantial. My bold redirect to [[Clarence Railway]] was removed by the article's creator. [[User:Pi.1415926535|Pi.1415926535]] ([[User talk:Pi.1415926535|talk]]) 20:03, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
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 *<small class="delsort-notice">Note:  This discussion has been included in the [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/England|list of England-related deletion discussions]]. '''[[User:Wcquidditch|<span style="color:red">WC</span>''<span style="color:#999933">Quidditch</span>'']]''' [[User talk:Wcquidditch|<span style="color:red">☎</span>]] [[Special:Contribs/Wcquidditch|<span style="color:#999933">✎</span>]] 00:10, 6 June 2024 (UTC)</small>
 *'''Delete''' as per nomination. Sadly, this now-gone depot was only notable at a local level. [[User:TH1980|TH1980]] ([[User talk:TH1980|talk]]) 03:02, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
+*:It existed at one point and is documented to have. Why not accept it was once around when [[ROF Aycliffe]] existed. [[User:DragonofBatley|DragonofBatley]] ([[User talk:DragonofBatley|talk]]) 08:26, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
+*'''Keep''' per [[WP: Consistency]] and per [[WP: Notable]]. As it's got coverage in quite a few books and articles. [[User:DragonofBatley|DragonofBatley]] ([[User talk:DragonofBatley|talk]]) 17:05, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
+*:Once again, you're making up a non-existent "consistency" policy, this article cites no books, and the citations present do not give significant coverage of the station. [[User:Trainsandotherthings|Trainsandotherthings]] ([[User talk:Trainsandotherthings|talk]]) 14:20, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
+*::It existed at one point and is documented to have. So you should get over it and accept it was once around when [[ROF Aycliffe]] existed. [[User:DragonofBatley|DragonofBatley]] ([[User talk:DragonofBatley|talk]]) 08:26, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
+*:::I don't need to "get over" anything, train stations are not notable on Wikipedia simply by virtue of once existing, [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Notability/Archive_76#Notability_of_train_stations per community consensus]. You don't get to ignore community consensus just because it's your article. [[User:Trainsandotherthings|Trainsandotherthings]] ([[User talk:Trainsandotherthings|talk]]) 12:32, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
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+*'''Redirect''' to Clarence Railway per nomination. [[User:Trainsandotherthings|Trainsandotherthings]] ([[User talk:Trainsandotherthings|talk]]) 14:20, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
+*:It existed [[User:DragonofBatley|DragonofBatley]] ([[User talk:DragonofBatley|talk]]) 08:26, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
+*::The [[WP:IDHT]] is strong with you, train stations are [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Notability/Archive_76#Notability_of_train_stations not notable solely for having once existed]. [[User:Trainsandotherthings|Trainsandotherthings]] ([[User talk:Trainsandotherthings|talk]]) 12:32, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
+*:::P. Off [[User:DragonofBatley|DragonofBatley]] ([[User talk:DragonofBatley|talk]]) 20:43, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
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+:'''Redirect''' to [[Clarence Railway]] as a [[WP:ATD]]. [[User:S5A-0043|<span style="color:#00A2E8">S5A-0043</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:S5A-0043|Talk]]</sup> 21:45, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
+:<s>'''Keep''' </s> per [[WP: Notability]]. [[User:DragonofBatley|DragonofBatley]] ([[User talk:DragonofBatley|talk]]) 20:32, 24 June 2024 (UTC)
+*'''Comment''': I haven't looked through all the sources yet, but no one has disputed Pi.1415926535's analysis, so I lean towards redirecting this. More importantly, are we just going to let [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3AArticles_for_deletion%2FSimpasture_railway_station&diff=1229623239&oldid=1229551334 this remark] from DragonofBatley slide? I'm pretty sure that's a [[WP:PA|personal attack]]. [[User:Toadspike|<span style="color:#21a81e;text-decoration:underline;text-decoration-thickness: 10%;">'''Toadspike'''</span>]] [[User talk:Toadspike|<span style="color:#21a81e;font-variant: small-caps;font-weight:bold;">[Talk]</span>]] 15:44, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
+*:After re-reading DoB's comments to make sense of this, I see no valid argument for keeping this article. If DoB can provide citations to the "quite a few books" they claim that cover this station, they can ping me and I'll reconsider. [[User:Toadspike|<span style="color:#21a81e;text-decoration:underline;text-decoration-thickness: 10%;">'''Toadspike'''</span>]] [[User talk:Toadspike|<span style="color:#21a81e;font-variant: small-caps;font-weight:bold;">[Talk]</span>]] 15:47, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
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