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The list was '''promoted''' by [[User:Giants2008|Giants2008]] via [[User:FACBot|FACBot]] ([[User talk:FACBot|talk]]) 00:25, 15 July 2024 (UTC) [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=1234532787&title=Wikipedia%3AFeatured_list_candidates%2FDetroit_Lions_draft_picks_(1970%E2%80%93present)%2Farchive1&oldid=1232805068]. |
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:::Thanks for the feedback @[[User:Dylan620|Dylan620]]. I don't typically include a ton of images, but I tried to include a lot in this instance. I aimed to prioritize pictures of players in Lions apparel, then focused on simply including an image at all. I tried to avoid including images of players wearing jerseys of other teams, given the focus, and avoided group shots or cropped them when I could. [[User:Hey man im josh|Hey man im josh]] ([[User talk:Hey man im josh|talk]]) 13:13, 1 July 2024 (UTC) |
:::Thanks for the feedback @[[User:Dylan620|Dylan620]]. I don't typically include a ton of images, but I tried to include a lot in this instance. I aimed to prioritize pictures of players in Lions apparel, then focused on simply including an image at all. I tried to avoid including images of players wearing jerseys of other teams, given the focus, and avoided group shots or cropped them when I could. [[User:Hey man im josh|Hey man im josh]] ([[User talk:Hey man im josh|talk]]) 13:13, 1 July 2024 (UTC) |
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::::My pleasure [[User:Hey man im josh|Josh]] – you make reasonable points, though in keeping with <span style="color:green">where an image shows a person who's not currently in playing shape/attire</span> I would encourage you to add the year to the photo of Leon Crosswhite. As for Hanson, [[:File:Detroit Lions placekicker Jason Hanson at the 2012 Lions training camp (cropped).jpg|I've tried my hand at a crop]] – what do you think? There are presently only two images of Hanson on Commons (excluding the crop), and a search for Flickr uploads under compatible licensing came up dry. [[User:Dylan620|<span style="color:blue">Dylan</span><span style="color:purple">620</span>]] (he/him • [[User talk:Dylan620|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Dylan620|edits]]) 23:48, 3 July 2024 (UTC) |
::::My pleasure [[User:Hey man im josh|Josh]] – you make reasonable points, though in keeping with <span style="color:green">where an image shows a person who's not currently in playing shape/attire</span> I would encourage you to add the year to the photo of Leon Crosswhite. As for Hanson, [[:File:Detroit Lions placekicker Jason Hanson at the 2012 Lions training camp (cropped).jpg|I've tried my hand at a crop]] – what do you think? There are presently only two images of Hanson on Commons (excluding the crop), and a search for Flickr uploads under compatible licensing came up dry. [[User:Dylan620|<span style="color:blue">Dylan</span><span style="color:purple">620</span>]] (he/him • [[User talk:Dylan620|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Dylan620|edits]]) 23:48, 3 July 2024 (UTC) |
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:::::Thank you for the catch with Crosswhite @[[User:Dylan620|Dylan620]], I've made that fix. I've also taken your advice and used a cropped version of the image for Jason Hanson, though I went with [[:File:Detroit Lions placekicker Jason Hanson at the 2012 Lions training camp (cropped 2).jpg]]. [[User:Hey man im josh|Hey man im josh]] ([[User talk:Hey man im josh|talk]]) 12:40, 4 July 2024 (UTC) |
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::::::Looks good to me, [[User:Hey man im josh|Josh]]. I note that the Baack photo is still in the listicle, and while I agree with you that it's a great photo (indeed, it reminds me of an old newspaper clipping, and that gives it an antiquated charm), I unfortunately still think the photo should be removed, since I haven't been able to verify the sourcing or copyright status. [[User:Dylan620|<span style="color:blue">Dylan</span><span style="color:purple">620</span>]] (he/him • [[User talk:Dylan620|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Dylan620|edits]]) 18:56, 4 July 2024 (UTC) |
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:::::::Woops, taken care of the Baack photo @[[User:Dylan620|Dylan620]]. [[User:Hey man im josh|Hey man im josh]] ([[User talk:Hey man im josh|talk]]) 18:58, 4 July 2024 (UTC) |
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::::::::I think we're good to go – '''support'''! [[User:Dylan620|<span style="color:blue">Dylan</span><span style="color:purple">620</span>]] (he/him • [[User talk:Dylan620|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Dylan620|edits]]) 19:14, 4 July 2024 (UTC) |
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:Damn. @[[User:Queen of Hearts|Queen of Hearts]], I moved the images below {{tl|main}} because having that template above the images moved the images down, which messed with the spacing a bit. Images start on the next line instead of the same line (visually) with how it's currently set up. I'll definitely fix it on Monday when I'm on PC again, but do you have any suggestions on how to deal with that? [[User:Hey man im josh|Hey man im josh]] ([[User talk:Hey man im josh|talk]]) 22:30, 28 June 2024 (UTC) |
:Damn. @[[User:Queen of Hearts|Queen of Hearts]], I moved the images below {{tl|main}} because having that template above the images moved the images down, which messed with the spacing a bit. Images start on the next line instead of the same line (visually) with how it's currently set up. I'll definitely fix it on Monday when I'm on PC again, but do you have any suggestions on how to deal with that? [[User:Hey man im josh|Hey man im josh]] ([[User talk:Hey man im josh|talk]]) 22:30, 28 June 2024 (UTC) |
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::{{U|Queen of Hearts}}, I think you are misreading the MOS. Unless I am missing something, the section you are referencing is Section #1 in [[MOS:ORDER]], which has hatnotes as #3 and images as #10 in the placement order. However, Section #1 in [[MOS:ORDER]] is only referencing the placement of different things ''{{tq|Before the article content}}''. This placement is important to make sure everything shows up in the right place at the beginning of the article, such as not having hatnotes be placed after the infobox. Section #2 in [[MOS:ORDER]] covers the placement of different things within the ''{{tq|Article content}}''. The part you are referencing is clearly the ''article content'', and Section #2 says nothing about the placement of hatnotes relative to images. {{U|Hey man im josh}}, unless I am missing something, this change should not be made.<span style="white-space:nowrap; font-family:Harlow Solid Italic;"><span style="font-size:small; color:teal;"> « Gonzo fan2007</span> [[User talk:Gonzo_fan2007|<small style="color:#2A2722">(talk)</small>]] @ </span> 17:44, 1 July 2024 (UTC) |
::{{U|Queen of Hearts}}, I think you are misreading the MOS. Unless I am missing something, the section you are referencing is Section #1 in [[MOS:ORDER]], which has hatnotes as #3 and images as #10 in the placement order. However, Section #1 in [[MOS:ORDER]] is only referencing the placement of different things ''{{tq|Before the article content}}''. This placement is important to make sure everything shows up in the right place at the beginning of the article, such as not having hatnotes be placed after the infobox. Section #2 in [[MOS:ORDER]] covers the placement of different things within the ''{{tq|Article content}}''. The part you are referencing is clearly the ''article content'', and Section #2 says nothing about the placement of hatnotes relative to images. {{U|Hey man im josh}}, unless I am missing something, this change should not be made.<span style="white-space:nowrap; font-family:Harlow Solid Italic;"><span style="font-size:small; color:teal;"> « Gonzo fan2007</span> [[User talk:Gonzo_fan2007|<small style="color:#2A2722">(talk)</small>]] @ </span> 17:44, 1 July 2024 (UTC) |
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==== Schminnte ==== |
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Did someone say source review? Sources are reliable for information cited, references are formatted consistently with dates all to MDY and consistent links, and all references are archived. |
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Onto spotchecks: |
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* 1, 10, 14, 16, 32, 40, 49 and 59 are all passes. |
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* 5 and 6 are passes, but just verify the same thing. Do we need both? |
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* Ditto above for 7, 8 and 9 (why was 6 afraid of 7?), why do we need three sources for an uncontroversial claim? |
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* 18 is a partial pass, but does not verify {{tq|The Lions have taken part in every modern NFL draft since 1970}}. Is this a [[WP:SKYISBLUE|SKYISBLUE]] situation? |
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* Am I missing something on 33, because I see no mention of any of the "Pro teams"? |
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No quibbles on prose. Will be happy to support after concerns are addressed, nice work. [[User:Schminnte|<b style="font-family:Trebuchet MS; color:#0645AD">Schminnte</b>]]<sup class="nowrap"> [[[User talk:Schminnte|<i style="color:#0645AD">talk to me</i>]]]</sup> 21:49, 4 July 2024 (UTC) |
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:* {{tq|5 and 6 are passes, but just verify the same thing. Do we need both?}} – I used to have just one reference for this fact, but I eventually found one I felt was better and tacked it on instead of replacing it, which is probably what I should have done. Better to use DAZN as the source over Ford Field themselves, so I've removed the reference to Ford Field's site from this article as well as six others, all of which used two refs instead of one for this. |
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:* {{tq|Ditto above for 7, 8 and 9 (why was 6 afraid of 7?), why do we need three sources for an uncontroversial claim?}} – It's more to do with the fact that it's common name is the "NFL Draft" whereas it's actual name is officially the "NFL Annual Player Selection Meeting", a name that it's rarely actually called. Prior to working on the series of draft articles I actually had no idea that this was a thing. I've removed one of the refs, but I'd prefer to leave two for this case if you don't mind. |
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:* {{tq|18 is a partial pass, but does not verify The Lions have taken part in every modern NFL draft since 1970. Is this a SKYISBLUE situation?}} – SKYISBLUE to me isn't the same as SKYISBLUE to everyone else, and I may have blind spots because of it. While I was trying to avoid re-using another PFR source, I'm going to do so here, which means the other source I have from The Sporting News becomes redundant, so it's been removed. |
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:* {{tq|Am I missing something on 33, because I see no mention of any of the "Pro teams"?}} – Good catch, thank you for that. I've added a reference to the [[Pro Football Hall of Fame]] which calls out the teams they were on in brackets. It only lists Oklahoma, Philadelphia, and Pittsburgh instead of the full team names, but hopefully this is enough given the context of it being a draft of CFL and USFL players and those city names only coinciding with one team each |
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:Thank you for the review @[[User:Schminnte|Schminnte]]! I hope all of your concerns have been addressed. [[User:Hey man im josh|Hey man im josh]] ([[User talk:Hey man im josh|talk]]) 14:36, 5 July 2024 (UTC) |
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::@[[User:Hey man im josh|Hey man im josh]], I think all the concerns above are resolved. Happy to '''support''' promotion. [[User:Schminnte|<b style="font-family:Trebuchet MS; color:#0645AD">Schminnte</b>]]<sup class="nowrap"> [[[User talk:Schminnte|<i style="color:#0645AD">talk to me</i>]]]</sup> 17:52, 5 July 2024 (UTC) |
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{{FLCClosed|promoted}} [[User:Giants2008|<span style="color: blue">Giants2008</span>]] ([[User talk:Giants2008|<span style="color: darkblue;">Talk</span>]]) 21:09, 14 July 2024 (UTC) |
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