Jump to content

Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Speedy: Difference between revisions

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Content deleted Content added
Line 129: Line 129:
**[[:Category:Portuguese Caribbean]] to [[:Category:Portuguese diaspora in the Caribbean]]
**[[:Category:Portuguese Caribbean]] to [[:Category:Portuguese diaspora in the Caribbean]]
**[[:Category:Spanish Caribbean]] to [[:Category:Spanish diaspora in the Caribbean]] – C2C. [[User:Omnis Scientia|Omnis Scientia]] ([[User talk:Omnis Scientia|talk]]) 16:50, 13 January 2024 (UTC)
**[[:Category:Spanish Caribbean]] to [[:Category:Spanish diaspora in the Caribbean]] – C2C. [[User:Omnis Scientia|Omnis Scientia]] ([[User talk:Omnis Scientia|talk]]) 16:50, 13 January 2024 (UTC)
* [[:Category:Afro-Caribbean]] to [[:Category:African diaspora in the Caribbean]] – C2C. [[User:Omnis Scientia|Omnis Scientia]] ([[User talk:Omnis Scientia|talk]]) 16:50, 13 January 2024 (UTC)
* [[:Category:Afro-Caribbean]] to [[:Category:African diaspora in the Caribbean]]
**[[:Category:Afro-Nicaraguan]] to [[:Category:African diaspora in Saint Vincent and the Grenadines]]
**[[:Category:Afro-Dominican (Dominican Republic)]] to [[:Category:African diaspora in the Dominican Republic]]
**[[:Category:Afro-Grenadian]] to [[:Category:African diaspora in Grenada]]
**[[:Category:Afro-Vincentians]] to [[:Category:African diaspora in Saint Vincent and the Grenadines]]
**[[:Category:Afro–Trinidadians and Tobagonians]] to [[:Category:African diaspora in Trinidad and Tobago]]
**[[:Category:Afro–Bahamian]] to [[:Category:African diaspora in the Bahamas]]
**[[:Category:Afro–Barbadian]] to [[:Category:African diaspora in Barbados]]
**[[:Category:Afro–Belizean]] to [[:Category:African diaspora in Belize]]
**[[:Category:Afro–Cuban]] to [[:Category:African diaspora in Cuba]]
**[[:Category:Afro–Guatemalan]] to [[:Category:African diaspora in Guatemala]]
**[[:Category:Afro–Guyanese]] to [[:Category:African diaspora in Guyana]]
**[[:Category:Afro–Haitian]] to [[:Category:African diaspora in Haiti]]
**[[:Category:Afro–Jamaican]] to [[:Category:African diaspora in Jamaica]]
**[[:Category:Afro–Costa Rican]] to [[:Category:African diaspora in Costa Rica]]
**[[:Category:Afro–Panamanian]] to [[:Category:African diaspora in Panama]]
**[[:Category:Afro–Surinamese]] to [[:Category:African diaspora in Suriname]]– C2C. [[User:Omnis Scientia|Omnis Scientia]] ([[User talk:Omnis Scientia|talk]]) 16:50, 13 January 2024 (UTC)
* [[:Category:Asian Caribbean]] to [[:Category:Asian diaspora in the Caribbean]] – C2C. [[User:Omnis Scientia|Omnis Scientia]] ([[User talk:Omnis Scientia|talk]]) 16:50, 13 January 2024 (UTC)
* [[:Category:Asian Caribbean]] to [[:Category:Asian diaspora in the Caribbean]] – C2C. [[User:Omnis Scientia|Omnis Scientia]] ([[User talk:Omnis Scientia|talk]]) 16:50, 13 January 2024 (UTC)
* [[:Category:Lebanese Caribbean]] to [[:Category:Lebanese diaspora in the Carribbean]] – C2C. [[User:Omnis Scientia|Omnis Scientia]] ([[User talk:Omnis Scientia|talk]]) 16:50, 13 January 2024 (UTC)
* [[:Category:Lebanese Caribbean]] to [[:Category:Lebanese diaspora in the Carribbean]] – C2C. [[User:Omnis Scientia|Omnis Scientia]] ([[User talk:Omnis Scientia|talk]]) 16:50, 13 January 2024 (UTC)

Revision as of 18:07, 13 January 2024

Speedy renaming or speedy merging of categories may be requested only if they meet a speedy criterion, for example WP:C2D (consistency with main article's name) or WP:C2C (consistency with established category tree names). Please see instructions below.

  1. Determine which speedy criterion applies
  2. Tag category page with {{subst:cfr-speedy|New name}} or {{subst:cfm-speedy|Merge target}}
  3. List request along with speedy criteria reason under "Current requests" below on this page

Please note that a speedy request must state which of the narrowly defined criteria strictly applies. Hence, any other non-speedy criteria, even "common sense" or "obvious", may be suitable points, but only at a full discussion at WP:Categories for discussion.

Request may take 48 hours to process after listing if there are no objections. This delay allows other users to review the request to ensure that it meets the speedy criteria for speedy renaming or merging, and to raise objections to the proposed change.

Categories that qualify for speedy deletion (per Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion, e.g., "patent nonsense", "recreation") can be tagged with the regular speedy tags, such as {{db|reason}} with no required delay. Empty categories can be deleted if they remain empty 7 days after tagging with {{db-empty}}. Renaming under C2E may also be processed instantly (at the discretion of an administrator) as it is a variation on G7.

To oppose a speedy request you must record your objection within 48 hours of the nomination. Do this by inserting immediately under the nomination:

  • Oppose, (the reasons for your objection). ~~~~

You will not be able to do this by editing the page WP:Categories for discussion. Instead, you should edit the section WP:Categories for discussion#Add requests for speedy renaming and merging here or the page WP:Categories for discussion/Speedy#Add requests for speedy renaming and merging here (WP:CFDS). Be aware that in the course of any discussion, the nomination and its discussion may get moved further down the page purely for organizational convenience – you may need to search WP:CFDS to find the new location. Participate in any ongoing discussion, but unless you withdraw your opposition, a knowledgeable person may eventually bring forward the nomination and discussion to become a regular CFD discussion. At that stage you may add further comments, but your initial opposition will still be considered. However, if after seven days there has been no support for the request, and no response from the nominator, the request may be dropped from further consideration as a speedy.

Contested speedy requests become stale, and can be untagged and delisted after 7 days of inactivity. Optionally, if the discussion may be useful for future reference, it may be copied to the category talk page, with a section heading and {{moved discussion from|[[WP:CFDS]]|2=~~~~}}. If the nominator wants to revive the process, this may be requested at WP:Categories for discussion (CfD) in accordance with its instructions.

If you belatedly notice and want to oppose a speedy move that has already been processed, contact one of the admins who process the Speedy page. If your objection seems valid, they may reverse the move, or start a full CFD discussion.

Speedy criteria

The category-specific criteria for speedy renaming, or merging are strictly limited to:

C2A: Typographic and spelling fixes

  • Correction of spelling errors and capitalization fixes. Differences between British and American spelling (e.g. Harbours → Harbors) are not considered errors; however if the convention of the relevant category tree is to use one form over the other then a rename may be appropriate under C2C. If both spellings exist as otherwise-identical category names, they should be merged.
  • Appropriate conversion of hyphens into en dashes or vice versa (e.g. Category:Canada-Russia relations → Category:Canada–Russia relations).
  • Correction of obvious grammatical errors, such as a missing conjunction (e.g. Individual frogs toads → Individual frogs and toads). This includes pluralizing a noun in the name of a set category, but not when disagreement might reasonably be anticipated as to whether the category is a topic or set category.

C2B: Consistency with established Wikipedia naming conventions and practices

C2C: Consistency with established category tree names

Bringing a category into line with established naming conventions for that category tree, or into line with the various "x by y", "x of y", or "x in y" categorization conventions specified at Wikipedia:Category names

  • This should be used only where there is no room for doubt that the category in question is being used for the standard purpose instead of being a potential subcategory.
  • This criterion should be applied only when there is no ambiguity or doubt over the existence of a category naming convention. Such a convention must be well defined and must be overwhelmingly used within the tree. If this is not the case then the category in question must be brought forward to a full Cfd nomination.
  • This criterion will not apply in cases where the category tree observes distinctions in local usage (e.g. Category:Transportation in the United States and Category:Transport in the United Kingdom).

C2D: Consistency with main article's name

  • Renaming a topic category to match its eponymous page (e.g. Category:The Beatles and The Beatles).
  • This applies only if the related page's current name (and by extension, the proposed name for the category) is:
    • unambiguous (so it generally does not apply to proposals to remove a disambiguator from the category name, even when the main article is the primary topic of its name, i.e. it does not contain a disambiguator); and
    • uncontroversial, either because of longstanding stability at that particular name, or because the page was just moved (i) after a page move discussion resulted in explicit consensus to rename, or (ii) unilaterally to reflect an official renaming which is verified by one or more citations (provided in the nomination). C2D does not apply if the result would be contrary to guidelines at WP:CATNAME, or there is any ongoing discussion about the name of the page or category, or there has been a recent discussion concerning any of the pages that resulted in a no consensus result, or it is controversial in some other way.
  • This criterion may also be used to rename a set category in the same circumstances, where the set is defined by a renamed topic; e.g. players for a sports team, or places in a district.
  • Before nominating a category to be renamed per WP:C2D, consider whether it makes more sense to move the article instead of the category.

C2E: Author request

  • This criterion applies only if the author of a category requests or agrees to renaming within six months of creating the category.
  • The criterion does not apply if other editors have populated or changed the category since it was created. "Other editors" includes bots that populated the category, but excludes an editor working with the author on the renaming.

C2F: One eponymous page

  • This criterion applies if the category contains only an eponymous article, list, template or media file, provided that the category has not otherwise been emptied shortly before the nomination. The default outcome is an upmerge to the parent categories, where applicable. Nominations should use {{subst:cfm-speedy}} (speedy merger) linking to a suitable parent category, or to another appropriate category (e.g. one that is currently on the article).

Admin instructions

When handling the listings:

  1. Make sure that the listing meets one of the above criteria.
  2. With the exception of C2E, make sure that it was both listed and tagged at least 48 hours previously.
  3. Make sure that there is no opposition to the listing; if there is a discussion, check if the opposing user(s) ended up withdrawing their opposition.

If the listing meets these criteria, simply have the category renamed or merged – follow the instructions at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Administrator instructions, in the section "If the decision is to Rename, Merge, or Delete"; to list it for the bots, use the Speedy moves section.

Applying speedy criteria in full discussions

  • A nomination to merge or rename, brought forward as a full CfD, may be speedily closed if the closing administrator is satisfied that:
    • The nomination clearly falls within the scope of one of the criteria listed here, and
    • No objections have been made within 48 hours of the initial nomination.
  • If both these conditions are satisfied, the closure will be regarded as having been a result of a speedy nomination. If any objections have been raised then the CfD nomination will remain in place for the usual 7-day discussion period, to be decided in accordance with expressed consensus.

Add requests for speedy renaming and merging here

If the category and desired change do not match one of the criteria mentioned in C2, do not list it here. Instead, list it in the main CFD section.

If you are in any doubt as to whether it qualifies, do not list it here.

Use the following format on a new line at the beginning of the list:

* [[:Category:old name]] to [[:Category:new name]] – Reason ~~~~

(The four ~ will sign and datestamp the entry automatically.)
If the current name should be redirected rather than deleted, use:

* REDIRECT [[:Category:old name]] to [[:Category:new name]] – Reason ~~~~

To note that human action is required, e.g. updating a template that populates the category, use:

* NO BOTS [[:Category:old name]] to [[:Category:new name]] – Reason ~~~~

Remember to tag the category page with: {{subst:cfr-speedy|New name}}

A request may be completed if it is more than 48 hours old; that is, if the time stamp shown is earlier than 05:58, 20 July 2024 (UTC). Currently, there are 148 open requests (refresh).


Current requests

Please add new requests at the top of the list, preferably with a link to the parent category (in case of C2C) or relevant article (in case of C2D).

  • I'd also recommend that all categories with "Countries" in their title, be changed to "Sovereign states". It's problematic having England, Scotland, Wales & Northern Ireland treated as though they're equal to the United Kingdom. GoodDay (talk) 15:59, 11 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose Speedy for the same reasons mentioned above. Additionally, like it or not, Scotland, England and Wales are regarded as countries, albeit not sovereign. Their status has long been complicated particularly since the Treaty of Union, but the fact remains that they have always been, and currently are, commonly referred to as countries. They are not states, regions or provinces, but countries, and this is what the category is in relation to; countries, not particularly sovereign states. It seems to me that perhaps you are trying to eliminate the fact that Scotland, England and Wales have continued to be known as countries despite no longer being sovereign countries. Goodreg3 (talk) 21:41, 11 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • This has nothing to do with what Scotland, England and Wales are called. This is about them not belonging in the same category as the United Kingdom. By having the category re-named, we'll be able to 'correctly' remove them from the category. Neither England, Scotland, Wales (or Northern Ireland) are independent & shouldn't be treated as though they were. GoodDay (talk) 07:51, 12 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Additionally, in some areas, such as law, health care and education, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland are in many respects treated equally and differently from the United Kingdom, and it is their devolved government which legislates for those areas and therefore certain statistics in those areas are counted as different from that of the overall United Kingdom. Additionally, there is football, rugby union, Commonwealth Games on a lower level which have separate representation. If each were not countries, they would not have their own individual representation at sporting events. Goodreg3 (talk) 21:45, 11 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Having England, Scotland & Wales in the same category as the United Kingdom, suggests that they're not a part of the United Kingdom. But are rather independent countries. That's the problem with categories named "countries" - the word 'country' has multiple meanings & can create confusion. GoodDay (talk) 07:43, 12 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Smasongarrison I suggest Category:Economy of Austria-Hungary. TSventon (talk) 16:43, 10 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Sounds good to me based on the content Mason (talk) 21:11, 10 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Opposed requests

On hold pending other discussion

Moved to full discussion

It's clear from the discussion at that page (WP:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 November 2 § Category:American suffragists by state) that "territory" is being used in an ambiguous way: it could mean the historical Territories but could also mean the current Unincorporated territories (plus, perhaps more confusing yet, it could mean both). This can be a source of serious confusion and of constant mis-subcategorization as 3 groups of editors (perhaps more groups if we consider the combinations of those 3 groups) could emerge. The discussion at WP:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 November 2 § Category:American suffragists by state alludes to a historical Territory, the Territory of Wyoming, while, IMO, most editors will think of any US-rooted category named "by state or territory" to mean the "50 states & DC" OR "the CURRENT unincorporated territories of the US". Mercy11 (talk) 07:42, 26 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
The discussion you cite as precedent clearly concluded for consensus to rename to Category:American suffragists by state or territory, which is the opposite of what you say. Place Clichy (talk) 06:40, 30 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Aidan721@Place Clichy I think that we're going to have to take these to full to reassert this consensus. Mason (talk) 22:26, 11 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Washington, D.C. and the District of Columbia have not always been coterminous. There really needs to be a full discussion of these renamings. Jahaza (talk) 19:59, 28 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
You should have it, but the current consensus that it close enough for District of Columbia and Category:District of Columbia to redirect to it. This oppose should be disregarded as it's basically against community consensus and the opposer isn't actually going to start the discussion either. Gonnym (talk) 13:28, 4 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ready for deletion

Check Category:Empty categories awaiting deletion for out of process deletions. In some cases, these will need to be nominated for discussion and the editor who emptied the category informed that they should follow the WP:CFD process.

Once the renaming has been completed, copy and paste the listing to the Ready for deletion section of Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Working/Manual.