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WP:NOT#SOAP. we should not allow a banned user to use checkuser as a soapbox, thus I am removing the screed.
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Dereks1x is community banned for making edits to Barack Obama and John Edwards articles. Dereks1x socks have always been easily caught because they are extremely obvious. Bobblehead is the true sockpuppetmaster creating [[Straw man]] socks. In order for the scheme to work, the key was to get Dereks1x community banned so that anyone writing unflattering edits about politicians that Bobblehead supports could get easily indefinitely blocked on the excuse that the editor was a Dereks1x sock. Many of the recent socks have been blocked without even a checkuser requested as Bobblehead intended. Bobblehead made sure that there was a community ban and not just a short term block so that his scheme would work.
<small>[[WP:NOT#SOAP|soapboxing]] screed by banned user removed '''· <font color="#70A070">[[User:Jersyko|jersyko]]</font>''' ''<font color="#007BA7" size="1">[[User talk:Jersyko|talk]]</font>'' 12:36, 18 May 2007 (UTC)</small>

The key to finding out Bobblehead’s scheme is that he filed a checkuser (checkuser/IP archives which is archived for only 7 days) on Dereks1x and mistakenly revealed that Dereks1x edits from the Seattle Public Library. However, nowhere in Dereks1x or his socks edits does it ever say that they do this so only sockpuppetmaster Bobblehead would know about the Seattle Public Library tip. [[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3ARequests_for_checkuser%2FIP_check%2FArchive&diff=131619594&oldid=131139474]] He never revealed this on regular checkusers because those are archived permanently.

Another key piece of evidence is that Jersyko unwittingly filed a checkuser on Nuclearj and Hempbilly not knowing that Bobblehead had not completed open proxy work on sock farm to get a "confirmed" on the RFCU. That’s why there is such a heated exchange between Jersyko and Hempbilly on Jersyko’s talk page. [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Jersyko#no_objection]]When the checkuser did not come out as “related”, Bobblehead quickly created spin and said the checkuser was a “bowtie” for Jersyko’s accusation even though the checkuser did not show that the 2 users were actually socks. This episode also shows that Bobblehead knew about open proxy use because he was the real sockpuppetmaster.

Another key piece of evidence is that Bobblehead knows Dereks1x mode of operation so well because they are the same person. Bobblehead also knew and pointed out that Dereks1x sock frequently make analogies to communism. To make things sound convincing, Bobblehead points out that Dereks1x (and socks) frequently complains about administrator abuse but those complaints (such as checkuser requests and ArbCom request always get reverted before they get too far; usually minutes after they are filed).

Conclusion: Dereks1x = Bobblehead[[User:Nostasi|Nostasi]] 06:18, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
:{{clerknote}} moved from [[Wikipedia:Requests for checkuser/Case/Bobblehead]] -- [[User:Lucasbfr|lucasbfr]] <sup>[[User talk:Lucasbfr|<font color="darkblue">talk</font>]]</sup> 07:55, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
:{{clerknote}} moved from [[Wikipedia:Requests for checkuser/Case/Bobblehead]] -- [[User:Lucasbfr|lucasbfr]] <sup>[[User talk:Lucasbfr|<font color="darkblue">talk</font>]]</sup> 07:55, 18 May 2007 (UTC)


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Bobblehead

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Filed: 06:18, 18 May 2007 (UTC)


  • F

Dereks1x is community banned for making edits to Barack Obama and John Edwards articles. Dereks1x socks have always been easily caught because they are extremely obvious. Bobblehead is the true sockpuppetmaster creating Straw man socks. In order for the scheme to work, the key was to get Dereks1x community banned so that anyone writing unflattering edits about politicians that Bobblehead supports could get easily indefinitely blocked on the excuse that the editor was a Dereks1x sock. Many of the recent socks have been blocked without even a checkuser requested as Bobblehead intended. Bobblehead made sure that there was a community ban and not just a short term block so that his scheme would work.

The key to finding out Bobblehead’s scheme is that he filed a checkuser (checkuser/IP archives which is archived for only 7 days) on Dereks1x and mistakenly revealed that Dereks1x edits from the Seattle Public Library. However, nowhere in Dereks1x or his socks edits does it ever say that they do this so only sockpuppetmaster Bobblehead would know about the Seattle Public Library tip. [[1]] He never revealed this on regular checkusers because those are archived permanently.

Another key piece of evidence is that Jersyko unwittingly filed a checkuser on Nuclearj and Hempbilly not knowing that Bobblehead had not completed open proxy work on sock farm to get a "confirmed" on the RFCU. That’s why there is such a heated exchange between Jersyko and Hempbilly on Jersyko’s talk page. [[2]]When the checkuser did not come out as “related”, Bobblehead quickly created spin and said the checkuser was a “bowtie” for Jersyko’s accusation even though the checkuser did not show that the 2 users were actually socks. This episode also shows that Bobblehead knew about open proxy use because he was the real sockpuppetmaster.

Another key piece of evidence is that Bobblehead knows Dereks1x mode of operation so well because they are the same person. Bobblehead also knew and pointed out that Dereks1x sock frequently make analogies to communism. To make things sound convincing, Bobblehead points out that Dereks1x (and socks) frequently complains about administrator abuse but those complaints (such as checkuser requests and ArbCom request always get reverted before they get too far; usually minutes after they are filed).

Conclusion: Dereks1x = BobbleheadNostasi 06:18, 18 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

 Clerk note: moved from Wikipedia:Requests for checkuser/Case/Bobblehead -- lucasbfr talk 07:55, 18 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

 Confirmed that Nostasi and Nostasi2 are Dereks1x. Dmcdevit·t 08:08, 18 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]


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Dereks1x (5th)

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Filed: 14:06, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

Edits from this username began a few hours after Ryulong blocked a few other obvious Dereks1x socks that were attacking him (e.g.). Like other Dereks1x socks, this editor is heavily involved in discussion at Talk:Barack Obama (almost to the point of being able to call it a SPA). Like Doc United States and other Dereks1x socks, however, this editor edited articles in a seemingly random area of "expertise" ((just one other article in this case, Oxygen Enhancement Ratio). I say "random" because for each sock, Dereks1x appears to choose a new area of "expertise" on which that sock will focus (Doc was medicine, TL500 was airplanes, this editor appears to be nuclear science). · jersyko talk 14:06, 4 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I amended this request to add User:Hempbilly, who is a new user who just started editing the Obama article and talk page in the style of Dereks1x (and who has far too intimate a knowledge of wiki-markup to be a brand new user, as this was the user's first edit). · jersyko talk 16:21, 4 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

  •  Inconclusive. And even more amusingly, before I even looked at this, Hempbilly left a message on my talk page asserting he is nobody's sockpuppet. I didn't find any connection between Hempbilly and the others; but he does seem to be in lockstep with User:TDC. On the other hand, Nuclearj isn't IP-related to Dereks1x either, unless User:Sethtothej and/or User:BlueAg09 are, and I couldn't relate them directly. --jpgordon∇∆∇∆ 03:19, 5 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Dereks1x (4th)

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Filed: 21:22, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

Lawman8 appeared on the Barack Obama page shortly after the pages semi-protection ended and started making similar edits to another Dereks1x sock KMCtoday (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki) in regards to Barack Obama's support among police officers following his endorsement by the Illinois Fraternal Order of Police. Lawman8's talk page edits are similar to Dereks1x and socks have often made comparisons between removal of their "compromise edits" and the actions of communists.

--Bobblehead 21:24, 30 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

 Confirmed --jpgordon∇∆∇∆ 00:00, 1 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Dereks1x (3rd)

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Filed: 23:54, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
  • Code letter: F

A recent RFCU confirmed that Dereks1x was using a sock with likely false medical credentials to bolster a policy argument (see also Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets/Dereks1x). A thread at the at the community sanction noticeboard is likely to lead to a community ban of Dereks1x and any socks. Atlas87 (talk · contribs) began posting at that thread, and Atlas87's focus on "due process" violations by the community toward Dereks1x made me strongly suspect that Atlas87 is a Dereks1x sock, especially given that Dereks1x made had a similar, unique concern before his block. This comment on Doc United States' talk page (soon after I started the below RFCU) and this cryptic comment at RfA (soon after I commented in the same RfA) served to confirm my suspicions. I blocked Atlas87 given the severity of Dereks1x's offenses (i.e. use of false credentials) and requested review of my block at CN, and an early comment suggested another RFCU. · j e r s y k o talk · 01:23, 3 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

 Confirmed --jpgordon∇∆∇∆ 05:55, 3 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]


Dereks1x (2nd)

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Filed: 23:54, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
  • Code letter: F

As a result of Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets/Dereks1x, Dereks1x was blocked for 48 hours by Durova for WP:POINT violations, and his socks were all blocked indefinitely after they continued editing after Dereks1x was under his block. Today, User:Doc United States made an edit at Talk:John Edwards that makes me suspect Doc might also be a sock of Dereks1x. Here are the relevant diffs that makes me think this RFCU is needed:

  1. Dereks1x placed "expert" tag in the John Edwards article to encourage an expert to conduct original research on Ms. Edwards' cancer (see talk, basically the crux of the dispute) at 12:19 on March 26
  2. New User account created, User:Doc United States at 14:30, March 26
  3. After a few days of editing medical articles, Doc United States adds a comment in support of Dereks1x's position at Talk:John Edwards today.

Doc United States has edited some medical articles, but Dereks1x is known to be editing from a library and would certainly have access to medical books. Anyway, given the timing of Doc's account creation and the content of his comment at Talk:John Edwards today, I think it's quite possible that Dereks1x is not only evading his block again, but also trying to pass off false credentials with his sock in an attempt to bolster his arguments. · j e r s y k o talk · 23:54, 1 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, here are a few more diffs that provide further evidence that Doc is a sock of Dereks1x (i.e., the odd focus on the Edwards situation): [5] [6] [7] [8] · j e r s y k o talk · 00:02, 2 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
 Clerk note: Merged from Wikipedia:Requests for checkuser/Case/Dereks1x 2. mrholybrain's talk 00:46, 2 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
 Confirmed. --jpgordon∇∆∇∆ 05:07, 2 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
 Clerk note: Actually, I believe the fact that Dereks1x and Doc United States are the same person has been confirmed. mrholybrain's talk 10:52, 2 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
 Clerk note: removing diploma picture and statement, since checkuser is not here to verify one person's resumé but the possibility of 2 accounts to used by the same person. -- lucasbfr talk 21:32, 2 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Dereks1x

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Filed: 03:06, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
  • Code letter: G

See also Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets/Dereks1x. I am making this request because I suspect that Dereks1x is using sockpuppets to attempt to gain advantages in content disputes through article text editing and (more often) on talk pages. Aside from TL500, the suspected socks had few edits outside their agreement with Dereksx1 in content disputes (though I understand that at least one of the socks has increased his/her editing as of today, see Bobblehead diff below). The alleged socks have advanced positions remarkably similar to Dereks1x's on relevant talk pages while most other editors that have participated in the relevant discussions have reached opposite conclusions. I'm more confident about the first two of the socks than the last of the three.

Relevant diffs on socks possibly being used to gain an advantage in content disputes:

Additionally, see diffs provided by Bobblehead and others from Tvoz at the SSP.· j e r s y k o talk · 03:06, 26 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

  • Request should be denied because of failure to "use other methods first" (see top of RFCU page), not being a "difficult case" and "checkuser is not for fishing". See SSP page for explaination that Derek has been civil, not disruptive, and has contributed much valuble and rare material on a variety of non-political subjects. Other accused users have engaged in almost no political discussion and all 4 users write about exclusively different things. Complainer is attempting to harrass in order to stamp out any civil discussion and invade privacy of users.Dereks1x 06:00, 26 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

 Clerk note: This is the checkuser's judgement call, not yours or mine. PTO 14:20, 26 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Rejected --jpgordon∇∆∇∆ 18:32, 26 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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