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Delete or redirect to [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_campaigns_of_Hari_Singh_Nalwa#Battle_of_Haidru_(1828) Military campaigns of Hari Singh Nalwa]. Out of the 5 sources on this page, only 2 are reliable; Hari Ram Gupta and Rishi Singh. The two other sources: "Journal of the United Service Institution of India" as well as "Selections from the records of the government of Punjab" are WP:RAJ era sources written in the 1800s, so under no circumstances can we use them. The last source is a Google books snapshot with no preview available either on Google books or anywhere else on the Internet. Such snapshots have been deprecated in the reliable sources noticeboard.
Delete or redirect to [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_campaigns_of_Hari_Singh_Nalwa#Battle_of_Haidru_(1828) Military campaigns of Hari Singh Nalwa]. Out of the 5 sources on this page, only 2 are reliable; Hari Ram Gupta and Rishi Singh. The two other sources: "Journal of the United Service Institution of India" as well as "Selections from the records of the government of Punjab" are WP:RAJ era sources written in the 1800s, so under no circumstances can we use them. The last source is a Google books snapshot with no preview available either on Google books or anywhere else on the Internet. Such snapshots have been deprecated in the reliable sources noticeboard.
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* '''Comment'''. Closer, this is case of [[WP:BULLY]] and revenge threat to stop me from voting. All editors have right to vote here and I have voted on AFDS by Suthasianhistorian8 before in his favor where I found the nomination to be right. When I vote against because I do not see the nomination to be right, he makes this sock threats. Suthasianhistorian8 filed SPI before for same reason that two admins {{ping|The Wordsmith}} and {{ping|Drmies}} found no connection [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/HaughtonBrit/Archive#Clerk,_CheckUser,_and/or_patrolling_admin_comments_15]. Suthasianhistorian8 also filed incident of Administrator noticeboard against The Wordsmith for misunderstanding his SPI case and the incident was closed with closing statement "No consensus has or will emerge to find fault with TheWordsmith's or Drmies' SPI findings." [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/IncidentArchive1150#SPI_report_closed_based_on_misunderstanding_of_my_arguments]. Suthasianhistorian8 also did forum shopping and [[WP:OTHERPARENT]] to try to block me with revenge SPI case. Suthasianhistorian8 has no problem with my vote when in his favor but has one with not in his favor. [[User:RangersRus|RangersRus]] ([[User talk:RangersRus|talk]]) 00:00, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
* '''Comment'''. Closer, this is case of [[WP:BULLY]] and revenge threat to stop me from voting. All editors have right to vote here and I have voted on AFDS by Suthasianhistorian8 before in his favor where I found the nomination to be right. When I vote against because I do not see the nomination to be right, he makes this sock threats. Suthasianhistorian8 filed SPI before for same reason that two admins {{ping|The Wordsmith}} and {{ping|Drmies}} found no connection [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/HaughtonBrit/Archive#Clerk,_CheckUser,_and/or_patrolling_admin_comments_15]. Suthasianhistorian8 also filed incident of Administrator noticeboard against The Wordsmith for misunderstanding his SPI case and the incident was closed with closing statement "No consensus has or will emerge to find fault with TheWordsmith's or Drmies' SPI findings." [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/IncidentArchive1150#SPI_report_closed_based_on_misunderstanding_of_my_arguments]. Suthasianhistorian8 also did forum shopping and [[WP:OTHERPARENT]] to try to block me with revenge SPI case. Suthasianhistorian8 has no problem with my vote when in his favor but has one with not in his favor. [[User:RangersRus|RangersRus]] ([[User talk:RangersRus|talk]]) 00:00, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
*:All I can say to everyone involved is to wait for the SPI I will file. This time I will put much more effort into making it concise and thorough as possible; last time I made the mistake of writing things off the top of my head, I won't do that next time. Lastly, a CU check was never ran on RangersRus, only a behavioural analysis was done- HB's sock accounts like {{noping|Finmas}} & {{noping|Dazzem}} were previously also deemed unrelated, but were later blocked on the grounds of duck edits with HB's IPs, proxies and SPAs. Historian2325, another suspected sock account, was also checked last year and was found to be unrelated, but since then he's made numerous duck edits and will likely also be blocked. [[User:Suthasianhistorian8|Southasianhistorian8]] ([[User talk:Suthasianhistorian8|talk]]) 00:12, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
*:All I can say to everyone involved is to wait for the SPI I will file. This time I will put much more effort into making it concise and thorough as possible; last time I made the mistake of writing things off the top of my head, I won't do that next time. Lastly, a CU check was never ran on RangersRus, only a behavioural analysis was done- HB's sock accounts like {{noping|Finmas}} & {{noping|Dazzem}} were previously also deemed unrelated, but were later blocked on the grounds of duck edits with HB's IPs, proxies and SPAs. Historian2325, another suspected sock account, was also checked last year and was found to be unrelated, but since then he's made numerous duck edits and will likely also be blocked. [[User:Suthasianhistorian8|Southasianhistorian8]] ([[User talk:Suthasianhistorian8|talk]]) 00:12, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
:<p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"><span style="color: #FF6600;">'''{{resize|91%|[[Wikipedia:Deletion process#Relisting discussions|Relisted]] to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.}}'''</span><br />'''Relisting comment:''' Final relist. It is not appropriate to accuse an editor of being a sockpuppet in an AFD discussion. If you have concerns, file a case at SPI. If there is no confirmation of sockpuppetry through an SPI, then you are just trying to tarnish the reputation of an editor which is a personal attack. Please conduct a discussion elsewhere.<br /><small>Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, <span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:#800080;">[[User:Liz|'''''L'''''iz]]</span> <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">[[Special:Contributions/Liz|'''''Read!''''']] [[User talk:Liz|'''''Talk!''''']]</sup> 05:07, 10 April 2024 (UTC)</small><!-- from Template:XfD relist --><noinclude>[[Category:Relisted AfD debates|Battle of Haidru (1828) (2nd nomination)]][[Category:AfD debates relisted 3 or more times|3 Battle of Haidru (1828) (2nd nomination)]]</noinclude></p>