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*'''Redirect to [[List of books about Nazi Germany#Hitler and the Nazi Party]] as R with possibilities''' — I believe ''[https://www.worldcat.org/title/hitler-and-the-jews-the-genesis-of-the-holocaust/oclc/1140388542&referer=brief_results Hitler and the Jews: The Genesis of the Holocaust]'' is [[WP:NBOOKS]]-notable, having been reviewed by ''[[German History (journal)]]'' [https://academic.oup.com/gh/article-abstract/13/3/430/633203?redirectedFrom=fulltext] and ''[[Foreign Affairs]]'' [https://www.foreignaffairs.com/reviews/capsule-review/1994-09-01/hitler-and-jews-genesis-holocaust-anatomy-auschwitz-death-camp], and having been cited by other RSes [https://scholar.google.com/scholar?cites=12369056211379540755&as_sdt=40000005&sciodt=0,22&hl=en]. The book is already an entry on the list, and the redirect could probably be expanded into an article about the book. [[User:Levivich|Levivich]]&nbsp;<sup>[[User talk:Levivich|harass]]</sup>/<sub>[[Special:Contribs/Levivich|hound]]</sub> 00:49, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
*'''Redirect to [[List of books about Nazi Germany#Hitler and the Nazi Party]] as R with possibilities''' — I believe ''[https://www.worldcat.org/title/hitler-and-the-jews-the-genesis-of-the-holocaust/oclc/1140388542&referer=brief_results Hitler and the Jews: The Genesis of the Holocaust]'' is [[WP:NBOOKS]]-notable, having been reviewed by ''[[German History (journal)]]'' [https://academic.oup.com/gh/article-abstract/13/3/430/633203?redirectedFrom=fulltext] and ''[[Foreign Affairs]]'' [https://www.foreignaffairs.com/reviews/capsule-review/1994-09-01/hitler-and-jews-genesis-holocaust-anatomy-auschwitz-death-camp], and having been cited by other RSes [https://scholar.google.com/scholar?cites=12369056211379540755&as_sdt=40000005&sciodt=0,22&hl=en]. The book is already an entry on the list, and the redirect could probably be expanded into an article about the book. [[User:Levivich|Levivich]]&nbsp;<sup>[[User talk:Levivich|harass]]</sup>/<sub>[[Special:Contribs/Levivich|hound]]</sub> 00:49, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
*:Honestly, I believe thinking of redirects as search aids is, like, pre-Google; I've never, ''ever'' found something in a search via a redirect. The use case for redirects is for linking e.g so that <nowiki>[[Franklin Roosevelt]], [[Franklin D. Roosevelt]], [[Franklin Delano Roosevelt]], and [[FDR]]</nowiki> will all work. [[User:EEng#s|<b style="color:red;">E</b>]][[User talk:EEng#s|<b style="color:blue;">Eng</b>]] 01:51, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
*:Honestly, I believe thinking of redirects as search aids is, like, pre-Google; I've never, ''ever'' found something in a search via a redirect. The use case for redirects is for linking e.g so that <nowiki>[[Franklin Roosevelt]], [[Franklin D. Roosevelt]], [[Franklin Delano Roosevelt]], and [[FDR]]</nowiki> will all work. [[User:EEng#s|<b style="color:red;">E</b>]][[User talk:EEng#s|<b style="color:blue;">Eng</b>]] 01:51, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
*::If it's notable, then I don't see any reason not to create a 3-sentence long stub about the book instead of deleting the page. <span style="font-family:Euclid Fraktur;background:#FFF">→[[User:Σ|<span style="color:#B00">Σ</span>]][[User talk:Σ|<span style="color:#036">σ</span>]][[Special:Contribs/Σ|<span style="color:#036">ς</span>]].&nbsp;<small>([[User:Σ|Sigma]])</small></span> 12:46, 2 March 2021 (UTC)


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Revision as of 12:46, 2 March 2021

February 28

This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on February 28, 2021.

Secession crisis of 1860-61

This does not refer to just the United States. I recommend retargeting this to American Civil War. CrazyBoy826 22:22, 28 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

retargeting this to American Civil War. = good idea. Rjensen (talk) 22:28, 28 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Redirects to Template:Translated page

Unused and misleading template redirects. These had all started out as small templates indicating that the page was a translation from the Wikipedia in the given language. The trouble is that the target template is for general uses, and requires the language code to be specified. This means that if you tried to use one of these redirects, the intuitive way won't work – {{Danish|Stød}}, for example, would spit out an error – you'd need to specify "Danish" twice: {{Danish|da|Stød}}. – Uanfala (talk) 20:40, 28 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  • Löschen currently unused and unnecessary. Prior to the redirects, they were useful, but have all been replaced. I agree that whoever did the redirects should have chosen a different method of tagging the relevant articles. What about template {{Da}}? --Bejnar (talk) 23:31, 28 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Fa

The title is short for "Farsi" and it had previuosly existed as a redirect to the now deleted {{fa icon}}, which made sense at the time. However, the current target is misleading – it is a template for marking up paragraph-length text as being right-to-left. It's both too narrow (only for paragraphs) and too broad (not restricted to text in Farsi). If there is anything that comes close to what {{fa|...}} could be expected to do in a context like this, that would be {{lang|fa|...}}, but that doesn't have a separate template to retarget to; {{lang-fa}} does something a bit different, and that family of templates don't have redirects of this sort anyway. – Uanfala (talk) 19:12, 28 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Racquel Spurlock

Delete redirect that points to an entirely different person. 2600:1700:F771:58A0:E9F9:3890:932F:447E (talk) 17:16, 28 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete I was unable to locate any connection between the names. This seems like a straightforward delete. ―NK1406 01:52, 1 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete - The article Katrina Colleton was moved from this redirect about a week after creation by the creator (with edit summary "The article is about Katrina Colleton, not Racquel Spurlock") so presumably it was simply a mistake and so this should be deleted. A7V2 (talk) 08:46, 1 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Draft:Ignite India Education

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was Deleted by User:Jimfbleak under CSD G8. (non-admin closure) (non-admin closure) ƒirefly ( t · c ) 15:09, 28 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

As far as I am aware, there is no reason for a draft article to redirect to a talk page of an article that will most likely be deleted shortly. βӪᑸᙥӴ • Talk • Contribs 14:25, 28 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page.

Saikyo

Delete per WP:XY. Ambiguous title which can refer to lots of things. Saikyō can be a transliteration of 西京 (Western Capital), 最強 (literally "strongest", used in many anime and manga titles), 埼京 (as in Saikyō Line), and possibly other Japanese terms I am not aware of. The current target is a WP:PTM. feminist (talk) 12:58, 28 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support changing to a general disambiguation page WhisperToMe (talk) 15:09, 28 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Kommentar At first I thought that all of the Wikipedia article targets would be partial title matches, but looking at the text at Saikyo (without the diacritic), the ship is referred to as just "Saikyo". See, for example, The Kwang - ping and a torpedo - boat then joined the Pingyuen , and all three turned their attention upon the Saikyo. quote from Proceedings of the United States Naval Institute volume 20, page 811, there and the previous page. And the two articles about individuals with the Saikyo surname seems to fit with a disambiguation page. --Bejnar (talk) 05:53, 2 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    • Fair point, as I failed to realize that "Maru" is simply a suffix for a ship in the Japanese language. I have struck this part from my nomination. feminist (talk) 06:07, 2 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Zyz, Italy

Not mentioned at the target or its wikilinked articles on other language projects, delete unless a justification can be provided. signed, Rosguill talk 20:04, 20 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Rosguill: the source is on page on itwiki. Borteddd (talk) 16:23, 21 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Borteddd, the cited source for that claim ([1]) gives the name as "Ziz" and doesn't appear terribly reliable. I tried searching for both "Zyz" and "Ziz" together with a few terms related to Phoenicians on Google Scholar and couldn't find any relevant results. signed, Rosguill talk 17:43, 21 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris talk! 09:49, 28 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Divinium

Fictional element used in the Call of Duty series but not mentioned at the target, delete unless a justification can be provided. signed, Rosguill talk 20:14, 20 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris talk! 09:44, 28 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Officer under the United States

Not mentioned in target, unlikely alternate name Onel5969 TT me 17:13, 20 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep. A quick web search shows a diversity of different uses for this terminology relating to the more legally significant term "officer of the United States". Even though this phrasing doesn't have a fixed meaning in itself, it's still useful as a search term for the article that discusses the correct terminology. 50.248.234.77 (talk) 18:00, 20 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris talk! 09:43, 28 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Josef Vinatzer

The former CEO of the target article company, but he is no longer mentioned in the article. KnightMove (talk) 05:20, 28 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Governor 1%

Not mentioned at target, appears to be from one Vox article from 2014 - in no way a common name or search term. Elliot321 (talk | contribs) 03:21, 28 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep: in addition to the Vox piece you cited, there is a 2016 Jacobin article, a 2012 WNYC article, mentions in a 2011 NYT article, a 2014 Salon article, a 2014 Times Union article, a blog post by Diane Ravitch, and surely more, suggesting sustained usage of the term. WP:R#DELETE says to delete "if the redirect is a novel or very obscure synonym for an article name"; I don't think this qualifies. Is it a biased term and unlikely to be worth mentioning in the target? Surely, but that is not a reason to delete either per WP:RNEUTRAL#3. — The Earwig (talk) 06:10, 28 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    Rethinking this, I was too concerned with trying to find usage of the term. Nil Einne's arguments below are convincing that this is a confusing redirect without discussion at the target and unlikely to be the name anyone knows the subject by. We are the 99% may be a better target, but still leaves the "Governor" part completely unexplained, so I'm unsure it's better than deletion. — The Earwig (talk) 21:30, 28 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Kommentar I don't think the redirect should point to Andrew Cuomo if something to this effect isn't mentioned in the article per Wikipedia:R#Astonish. Readers should never be left scratching their heads why they're on an article when they search for a term they've heard but don't why it's used. If we're not going to cover something then we don't cover it rather than pretending we do. It would be better to redirect this to something like We are the 99% so readers can at least gain some understanding of why the term might be used. Yes this will mean they won't know who the nickname is for (assuming they don't already) whereas a redirect to Andrew Cuomo would let them guess it's a nick name for Andrew Cuomo but this seems much more minor than the risk of confusion for those who don't understand the context. Attorneygate doesn't seem comparable since although true this does require people to be aware of the usage of -gate suffix to understand (as it isn't mentioned there), it seems far less likely someone will search for the term trying to understand where the -gate comes from than someone will search for the nick name trying to understand it. Importantly it's entirely plausible that someone looking for the article will search for that name since it's a simple short name they know the scandal by. By comparison, it seems fairly unlikely someone would think of Governor 1% as the term to find the article on Andrew Cuomo except for fun. (I.E. it may be fine redirect without explanation when there isn't really any need, but this doesn't seem to be such a case.) Nil Einne (talk) 19:11, 28 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    I took the liberty of merging the other discussion. — The Earwig (talk) 21:15, 28 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Ace Deuce

Not mentioned at target, no clear relation. Elliot321 (talk | contribs) 03:19, 28 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hitler and the Jews

Bad target - the Holocaust isn't just Hitler's opinions on the Jews - Mein Kampf discusses them in depth. While this is a rather significant interaction Hitler had with Jewish people, it's an inappropriate target for this redirect. Elliot321 (talk | contribs) 03:07, 28 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

While your analysis is unassailable, I think we can agree that calling the Holocaust a a rather significant interaction Hitler had with Jewish people sets a new record in understatement. EEng 03:21, 28 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
+1 to both. The requester's wording is inappropriate, but he is right with the request as such. --KnightMove (talk) 05:26, 28 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
It's like saying Jackie Kennedy found her trip to Dallas "rather memorable". EEng 06:08, 28 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Draft:Cessation of life

Pointless, created as a redirect, not what draftspace is for. Elliot321 (talk | contribs) 03:03, 28 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  • I don't think this is a useful title for a mainspace redirect (it's a definition of death and not a plausible search term), but I want to object to nominating with this rationale. Draft redirects like this are usually created by new users who cannot create mainspace pages and don't know about WP:AFC/R (the article wizard does not point them there, and it's not always easy to find). It would be more helpful for everyone involved to treat them like AFC/R submissions and either accept them (create as redirects in the mainspace) or reject them (decline the AfC submission with a message to the submitter explaining why their suggestion does not make a good redirect, as in this case). — The Earwig (talk) 05:50, 28 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Move to article space Seems like a reasonable enough search term and is unambiguous. Either move this redirect or make a new one in article space. 86.23.109.101 (talk) 11:28, 28 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Move to mainspace per Earwig and our unregistered friend. Vaticidalprophet (talk) 23:39, 28 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Draft:Yhdysvallat

No reason for this to exist, a redirect with no history from a nonsense title in draft space. Elliot321 (talk | contribs) 02:29, 28 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Walmart*

Implausible misspelling. Elliot321 (talk | contribs) 02:24, 28 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Transgendered (Male-Bodied)

Implausible search term, was created as an article before being redirected in 2005. Elliot321 (talk | contribs) 02:21, 28 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. Implausible search term, weird capitalization, Transgendered already redirs to Transgender, plus it wouldn't break anything. Srey Srostalk 02:35, 28 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Delete not even clear what someone would be searching for, and I can't imagine them typing all that, and not selecting one of the pop-ups that were offered before they got that far. Mathglot (talk) 08:58, 28 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - "Transgendered" is an improper term in itself, let alone with this qualifier. This reads like someone attempting a pathological categorization, and it's sort of unpleasant. BlackholeWA (talk) 23:14, 1 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hair Fairies (people)

Not mentioned at target. Elliot321 (talk | contribs) 02:21, 28 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Probably delete as an unlikely search term with this capitalization and parenthetical, and as a questionable target. "Hair fairies" is (as mentioned in various RS) an older term for a category of gay queens, some (perhaps even many) of whom were trans women, but it is unclear that "Transgender" is unambiguously the right target for a redirect about that. "Hair fairies" are already briefly mentioned in San Francisco Pride, and if someone is feeling energetic, they could probably add a sentence to an article like LGBT history which could make a better target(?). (I found enough uses of the term to meet Wiktionary's criteria for inclusion as a dictionary entry, though; revise if needed.) -sche (talk) 06:26, 28 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Serial Shooter

This is a generic term that somehow got redirected to one particular pair of criminals. EEng 01:42, 28 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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