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==[[Haggadah]] 2021 Reformulate the Lede== |
==[[Haggadah]] 2021 Reformulate the Lede== |
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The lede has no mention of the [[Haggadah]], [[Matzah]], or the Chag haMatzot, the "feast of unleavened bread" (which actually redirects here), nor the month of [[Aviv]], nor the [[counting of the omer]]. Each one of these is a major omission. I added them on 13 Nisan 2021, but was reverted. For people who know the subject matter, this is [[WP:SKYBLUE]], but maybe there is tertiary or secondary source that can be linked to explain it to ben tam and ben she eino yodea l'shoel.[[User:Jaredscribe|Jaredscribe]] ([[User talk:Jaredscribe|talk]]) 00:28, 7 April 2021 (UTC) |
The lede has no mention of the [[Haggadah]], [[Matzah]], or the Chag haMatzot, the "feast of unleavened bread" (which actually redirects here), nor the month of [[Aviv]], nor the [[counting of the omer]]. Each one of these is a major omission. I added them on 13 Nisan 2021, but was reverted. For people who know the subject matter, this is [[WP:SKYBLUE]], but maybe there is tertiary or secondary source that can be linked to explain it to ben tam and ben she eino yodea l'shoel.[[User:Jaredscribe|Jaredscribe]] ([[User talk:Jaredscribe|talk]]) 00:28, 7 April 2021 (UTC) |
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==What is passover?== |
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It can refer to the [[paschal lamb]], to the [[pesach seder]] where it was eaten/is remembered, to the event recorded in Exodus where the angel of death "passed over" the houses of the [[Israelite]]s during the [[Plagues of Egypt#plague10|tenth plague]] on Egypt, and to the week long [[feast of unleavened bread]] that follows it. Passover is all these things, and they should all be reflected in the first sentence or two of the lede, IMHO. Do we need a reference for this?[[User:Jaredscribe|Jaredscribe]] ([[User talk:Jaredscribe|talk]]) 00:33, 7 April 2021 (UTC) |
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Origin
This section is giving credence to highly controversial atheistic and anti Semitic views. Suggest that since the article is on a Jewish festival commemorating God freeing the Israelites from Slavery out of Egypt, the origin section is removed or at least renamed “alternative origin theory”. If one needs to know the origin of the festival, one should start by reading the Haggadah first. Chag Samech.
- Most of the articles I've found on the Pentateuch and Judaism content area are dominated by atheistic biblical minimalism misconstrued as "scholarly consensus", Wellhausen's discredited documentary hypothesis assumed as fact and stated in WikiVoice, and denials of jewish text and history that miscontrued as "Mainstream". Anti-semitism? That is by accident. It is basic ignorance. antijudaism and more than that, a combination of atheism and nostalgic polytheism. As a consequence, it seems like Jewish editors have taking to writing in "Yinglish" and not translating. As of 2021, there is still no mention of the Haggadah in the lede. The passover wikilink didn't appear in the Exodus until I recently put it there. Its not enough to complain - Editors like you should add that.Jaredscribe (talk) 00:17, 7 April 2021 (UTC)
Haggadah 2021 Reformulate the Lede
The lede has no mention of the Haggadah, Matzah, or the Chag haMatzot, the "feast of unleavened bread" (which actually redirects here), nor the month of Aviv, nor the counting of the omer. Each one of these is a major omission. I added them on 13 Nisan 2021, but was reverted. For people who know the subject matter, this is WP:SKYBLUE, but maybe there is tertiary or secondary source that can be linked to explain it to ben tam and ben she eino yodea l'shoel.Jaredscribe (talk) 00:28, 7 April 2021 (UTC)
What is passover?
It can refer to the paschal lamb, to the pesach seder where it was eaten/is remembered, to the event recorded in Exodus where the angel of death "passed over" the houses of the Israelites during the tenth plague on Egypt, and to the week long feast of unleavened bread that follows it. Passover is all these things, and they should all be reflected in the first sentence or two of the lede, IMHO. Do we need a reference for this?Jaredscribe (talk) 00:33, 7 April 2021 (UTC)
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