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* '''Comment''' – In the case of a patently pantomimic 'election,' perhaps it's best not to elaborate in a mere blurb on the nature of the process. – [[User:Sca|Sca]] ([[User talk:Sca|talk]]) 13:11, 19 June 2021 (UTC) |
* '''Comment''' – In the case of a patently pantomimic 'election,' perhaps it's best not to elaborate in a mere blurb on the nature of the process. – [[User:Sca|Sca]] ([[User talk:Sca|talk]]) 13:11, 19 June 2021 (UTC) |
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* Are there any issues or differences between the candidates that we can note? ''<small>[[User_talk:GreatCaesarsGhost|<span style="color:#938f8d">GreatCaesarsGhost</span>]]</small>'' 13:13, 19 June 2021 (UTC) |
* Are there any issues or differences between the candidates that we can note? ''<small>[[User_talk:GreatCaesarsGhost|<span style="color:#938f8d">GreatCaesarsGhost</span>]]</small>'' 13:13, 19 June 2021 (UTC) |
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*'''Support''' The article looks good and the news is important.--<samp>[[User:Sa.vakilian|Seyyed]]([[User talk:Sa.vakilian|t]]-[[Special:Contributions/Sa.vakilian|c]])</samp> 13:36, 19 June 2021 (UTC) |
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Iran election
Blurb: Ebrahim Raisi (pictured) is elected president of Iran. (Post)
News source(s): NYT, Al Jazeera, AP, BBC, Guardian. Reuters
Credits:
- Nominated by Davey2116 (talk · give credit)
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Nominator's comments: Many strong would-be opponents were disqualified from running, and turnout was very low. Do we mention this in the blurb? Davey2116 (talk) 09:02, 19 June 2021 (UTC)
- In Iran, the Guardian Council gets to decide who runs for president, that's how they do it. I'm not sure that needs to be called out here. 331dot (talk) 09:42, 19 June 2021 (UTC)
- Comment – In the case of a patently pantomimic 'election,' perhaps it's best not to elaborate in a mere blurb on the nature of the process. – Sca (talk) 13:11, 19 June 2021 (UTC)
- Are there any issues or differences between the candidates that we can note? GreatCaesarsGhost 13:13, 19 June 2021 (UTC)
- Support The article looks good and the news is important.--Seyyed(t-c) 13:36, 19 June 2021 (UTC)
(Posted) RD: Vekuii Rukoro
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): DW
Credits:
- Nominated by AllegedlyHuman (talk · give credit)
- Updated by Mr. D. E. Mophon (talk · give credit) and Chtrede (talk · give credit)
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Nominator's comments: Paramount chief of the Herero people. AllegedlyHuman (talk) 02:24, 19 June 2021 (UTC)
- Support Attorney General of Namibia, chief of the Herero – seems very notable. Robby.is.on (talk) 08:25, 19 June 2021 (UTC)
- Support article is good enough for RD. Joseph2302 (talk) 08:39, 19 June 2021 (UTC)
- Posted --PFHLai (talk) 08:47, 19 June 2021 (UTC)
(Posted) RD: Giampiero Boniperti
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Ansa
Credits:
- Nominated by AllegedlyHuman (talk · give credit)
- Updated by Robby.is.on (talk · give credit), Charlie Foxtrot66 (talk · give credit), Vaselineeeeeeee (talk · give credit) and Dr Salvus (talk · give credit)
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Nominator's comments: Italian footballer, ranked on the FIFA 100 by Pelé. AllegedlyHuman (talk) 01:55, 19 June 2021 (UTC)
- Support a good article, everything well sourced. Joseph2302 (talk) 08:37, 19 June 2021 (UTC)
- Posted --PFHLai (talk) 08:54, 19 June 2021 (UTC)
(Posted) RD: Milkha Singh
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Times of India, news18
Credits:
- Nominated by ArnabSaha (talk · give credit)
- Updated by Sitush (talk · give credit), Cluborchid (talk · give credit) and Ktin (talk · give credit)
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Saha ❯❯❯ Stay safe 19:12, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
- Support. Made some edits / adds to sources. Article looks in nick and is ready to go to homepage / RD. RIP. Ktin (talk) 19:51, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
- Posted --PFHLai (talk) 22:02, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
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RD: Leroy Jones (reliably confirmed on this date)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Norfolk State University, The Greenwood Commonwealth
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- Updated and nominated by Bagumba (talk · give credit)
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Nominator's comments: Some borderline reliable blogs and social media posts reported earlier, but with no death date. —Bagumba (talk) 01:06, 19 June 2021 (UTC)
(Posted as blurb) RD/Blurb: Kenneth Kaunda
Recent deaths nomination
Blurb: First President of Zambia Kenneth Kaunda (pictured) dies at the age of 97. (Post)
News source(s): BBC
Credits:
- Nominated by Alsoriano97 (talk · give credit)
- Updated by Strattonsmith (talk · give credit) and Amakuru (talk · give credit)
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Nominator's comments: 1st and long-time president of Zambia. His article needs a lot of work, so I will be working on it. Maybe he should be nominated for blurb? _-_Alsoriano97 (talk) 17:18, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
- Weak oppose Quality isn't great, with a few Citation Neededs, but I would support a blurb on notability as he was the first president of Zambia, although his term did end 30 years ago. Jackattack1597 (talk) 18:12, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
- Support blurb on principle, oppose on quality Kaunda was a key figure in Zambian independence, the founding president of Zambia, president of Zambia for 27 years, and was the third secretary-general of the non-aligned movement. He checks all of the boxes for a blurbable politician. However, the article quality is not there yet. NorthernFalcon (talk) 21:10, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
- Support RD only, oppose blurb This people from Zambia doesn't look enough to be posted as blurb given his little significance. 114.125.31.240 (talk) 21:19, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
- Really "little significance", just because you haven't heard of someone does not make them non-notable. Probably one of the most influential and earliest African leaders, it is surprising to know that he was still alive. Gotitbro (talk) 23:58, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
- Comments The cn tags need to be fixed, would clearly support on significance when done. Gotitbro (talk) 23:58, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
- Support blurb pending improved referencing. Kenneth Kaunda was essentially the father of the modern nation of Zambia, and a very significant figure in African politics for many decades. He merits a full blurb rather than just a passing mention in RD. Kurtis (talk) 02:03, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
- Oppose on quality The article needs improvement in referencing. Once fixed, I would support a blurb. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 06:11, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
- Oppose The article isn't in good shape. Hanamanteo (talk) 07:15, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
- Support blurb in principle, oppose on quality significant sourcing improvements needed. If done, this looks blurb-worthy to me. Joseph2302 (talk) 10:42, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
- Support blurb once article improved. A major figure in southern African politics during the transitional era from colonialism to independence, and beyond, and established Zambia as a nation.--Bcp67 (talk) 11:31, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
- Support blurb if article is improved - Agree with other commenters. The article doesn't look to be in terrible shape but has numerous unsourced statements. The death of a person who was the first head of state of a country, particular one who has reached their late 90s, would seem like a notable enough event to warrant a blurb to me. HumanBodyPiloter5 (talk) 12:10, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
- Comment I removed a few old CN tags, but the autocracy section needs some work, as it has two CN tags and I'm having trouble finding reliable sources to support those paragraphs.Jackattack1597 (talk) 20:14, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
- No Blurb Died well past the age death becomes normal, of no interesting cause, was far from the top of his field and I'd bet nobody here could have put a face to that name until now. InedibleHulk (talk) 20:48, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
- Oppose blurb per InedibleHulk. – John M Wolfson (talk • contribs) 20:58, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
- RD only – Per previous two posts – altho I do vaguely recall the name, perhaps from the old Weekly Reader. – Sca (talk) 21:44, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
- That's why I changed my initial bet, had a hunch there'd be a reader in the house. InedibleHulk (talk) 21:50, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
- I remember reading about plans for construction of Brasília in the WR, too. I was more interested in things like that than playing marbles in the mud. . – Sca (talk) 21:59, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
- Kust because you don't know his name or his picture is not recognizable to you, doesn't mean it's not important. Read Gotitbro and Kurtis' comments. _-_Alsoriano97 (talk) 22:08, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
- I appreciate how he officially founded a modern state, but that modern state never broke into the Top 50, by any global indices I vaguely recall. Good people, surely. But a poor state. InedibleHulk (talk) 22:22, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
- Kust because you don't know his name or his picture is not recognizable to you, doesn't mean it's not important. Read Gotitbro and Kurtis' comments. _-_Alsoriano97 (talk) 22:08, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
- I remember reading about plans for construction of Brasília in the WR, too. I was more interested in things like that than playing marbles in the mud. . – Sca (talk) 21:59, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
- Nom. comment There are currently a maximum of three of us who are trying to improve his article, but I think it is not enough, especially to prevent it from ending up as a stale as it's a pretty large one. So I encourage people to contribute. _-_Alsoriano97 (talk) 22:08, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
- Support blurb when article is finalized. Per Jackattack1597 the autocracy section needs attention as some of it reads to me like OR hence no sources JW 1961 Talk 22:42, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
- Support blurb once the article is improved. One of the most prominent African politicians of the 20th century and first head of state who remained in office for 27 years clearly deserves a blurb.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 22:59, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
- Support blurb. Guidelines say one or two "citation needed" tags may not hold up an article, and recent editing efforts have brought it up to that standard. Moscow Mule (talk) 23:07, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
- Support blurb Founding father of a nation and a longstanding head of government. Definitely needs a blurb. My opinion on quality is the same as above. --Regards, Jeromi Mikhael 02:46, 19 June 2021 (UTC)
- Comment There is an orange verification tag at the top of the page:
Articles that are subject to serious issues, as indicated by 'orange'- or 'red'-level tags at either the article level or within any section, may not be accepted for an emboldened link.
(WP:ITN)—Bagumba (talk) 06:23, 19 June 2021 (UTC) - Comment (and support blurb) - I've added citations for most of the material that wasn't cited, and also removed some bits that were unencyclopedic, POV or seemed dubious per WP:BLP requirements. I think this is good to go now, but happy to hear of any other issues. — Amakuru (talk) 09:13, 19 June 2021 (UTC)
- Support blurb now that it's well sourced. Joseph2302 (talk) 09:20, 19 June 2021 (UTC)
- @Amakuru: you did a great job. Thanks! _-_Alsoriano97 (talk) 10:02, 19 June 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you Amakuru, you saved the article from becoming stale.Jackattack1597 (talk) 12:13, 19 June 2021 (UTC)
- Posted. There is consensus for a blurb here. 331dot (talk) 09:44, 19 June 2021 (UTC)
(Closed) U.S. federal recognition of Juneteenth
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Blurb: President Biden signs into law recognition of Juneteenth, June 19, as a federal holiday. (Post)
News source(s): Deadline
Credits:
- Nominated by Masem (talk · give credit)
- Would be nice if they also added Easter Monday or General Lee surrenders day or independence war starts day or ~Apr 15 tax in the Feb 15-21 to May 25-31 gap. And Random 2-Month Summer Gap Filler Day Observed. Sagittarian Milky Way (talk) 05:49, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
- Support - Long-awaited creation of a federal Emancipation Day in the US. I find it pure symbolism, but humanity loves their symbols. I prefer cymbals - Floydian τ ¢ 05:58, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
- Oppose A lot of exposition, for which there isn't room on the Main Page, is going to be needed to show how this is ITN-worthy. At the end of the day, this is still just the US adding another public holiday (which doesn't even work the same as in many other countries, but I digress). It's not like this is the US government acknowledging slavery happened – obviously they have already. So, I'm not seeing this being particularly transformative at even a national level, and I can't imagine us posting a similar story for any other country. -- tariqabjotu 07:22, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
- Oppose internal politics. I might change my mind if there are a lot of follow-up stories, but as of right now, this is completely overshadowed by the Geneva summit. Banedon (talk) 07:27, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
- Support The most recently established federal holiday was Martin Luther King Jr. Day in 1983, so it's not that often that a new federal holiday is added. The Juneteenth bill can be seen as part of the aftermath of the George Floyd protests. Davey2116 (talk) 08:21, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
- Maybe not in the US, but once you broaden to every country in the world it really isn't that rare, e.g. in 2020 Iraq made Christmas a public holiday [1]. Banedon (talk) 09:10, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
- Oppose per Banedon. We don't usually post internal politics of this nature. — Amakuru (talk) 08:25, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
- Oppose trivial and of practically zero encyclopedic value. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 08:27, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
- Oppose whilst it's good that they've done it, this isn't ITN-worthy, as it's only a US Government policy. Joseph2302 (talk) 08:28, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
- Oppose Pure symbolic and nothing of importance to the rest of the world. --Regards, Jeromi Mikhael 09:30, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
- Oppose. Disagree that it has "zero encyclopedic value"(if so, it should be nominated for deletion) but the US can decide to have whatever holidays it wishes, just as any country can. 331dot (talk) 09:43, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
- I said "practically". Thanks for the advice though, really appreciate it. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 10:38, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
- Oppose It recognized the Armenian genocide this past Armenian Genocide Remembrance Day, too, symbolic moments happen. InedibleHulk (talk) 10:31, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
- Congress had already recognized the genocide; the president doing so had not happened before. 331dot (talk) 10:34, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
- Aye, and this time, they've all acknowledged slavery ended (though the trials and tribulations endure) many times each before. InedibleHulk (talk) 10:53, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
- Congress had already recognized the genocide; the president doing so had not happened before. 331dot (talk) 10:34, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
- Oppose A country getting it's 11th official holiday is not in itself notable for this ostensibly international encyclopedia. As for the attrocity propaganda about slavery in the US, what happened there was no doubt tragic, but that happened in a single country to a fairly small number of people compared to the population of the world. Morepower, their "trials and tributations" have been nothing compared to what most people across most countries of the world had suffered in the past few centuries so that's not notable either, in my opinion. Cheers. 212.74.201.238 (talk) 11:24, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
- Oppose This holiday is unknown outside other English-speaking countries. 114.125.29.40 (talk) 12:00, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
(Pulled) Shenzhou 12
Blurb: China has launched three astronauts into orbit to begin occupation of the country's new space station. (Post)
Alternative blurb: Shenzhou 12 launches with three Taikonauts and carries the first crew to dock at the Tiangong space station.
News source(s): BBC, AP, Guardian, dpa
Credits:
- Nominated by Sherenk1 (talk · give credit)
- Created by Toby6250 (talk · give credit)
Article updated
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Nominator's comments: China's longest crewed space mission to date and the first in nearly five years. Sherenk1 (talk) 03:46, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
- Support altblurb Article has been improved from stub. Also successful 1st docking with space station. Albertaont (talk) 05:23, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
- Note - changed to ITNR. -- KTC (talk) 08:04, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
- Oppose on quality article is just under 1,500 characters, way too short for ITN. Joseph2302 (talk) 08:30, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
- The altblurb should be posted, but the article currently has just two sentences about what actually happened. Needs a bit of expansion before being featured on the MP. There are plenty of sources that could be used to do so. Modest Genius talk 12:32, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
- Just a bit? Article is barely over 200 words – more or less a stub. – Sca (talk) 12:47, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
- That's my stereotypical British understatement. Modest Genius talk 13:09, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
- You're so modest. – Sca (talk) 13:19, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
- But not a genius. Modest Genius talk 10:34, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
- And I thought you were a genus by yourself. – Sca (talk) 18:55, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
- But not a genius. Modest Genius talk 10:34, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
- You're so modest. – Sca (talk) 13:19, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
- That's my stereotypical British understatement. Modest Genius talk 13:09, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
- Just a bit? Article is barely over 200 words – more or less a stub. – Sca (talk) 12:47, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
- Support ― The article has been updated and is OK now. STSC (talk) 18:51, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
- Posted Stephen 01:00, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
- Post-posting-oppose it's still only 1700 characters- about 2 sentences have been added since all the opposes. This is not good enough article quality for ITN. Joseph2302 (talk) 10:40, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
- Translation: 330 words. – Sca (talk) 18:52, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
- Pull I didn't even bother opposing earlier because it would have been a pile-on with an article so far away from being ready. We get one support and it's posted? GreatCaesarsGhost 15:46, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
- There are 2 supports, 3 counting the OP. But we already knew that. Albertaont (talk) 20:08, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
- Pulled The consensus here is that this is not ready. If it is expanded sufficiently the outcome may changes. Jehochman Talk 17:17, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
- Comment Guess I should go pull up all the sport articles, RDs, and space mission arrivals that only got posted with a single sentence update. - Floydian τ ¢ 19:00, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
- If the news event was about a change to a long-standing thing or person or whatever (such as recent death, most commonly), we only need a single sentence. Of course this is a case-by-case basis - eg the blocking of the Suez Canal would not have gone up on a single sentence update. For something "new" on the other hand, we do expect a much larger expansion. --Masem (t) 19:04, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
- But it is. The item of interest is the Tiangong space station and how it's finally fulfilling its function, not the spacecraft that ferried the crew up to it. ApLundell (talk) 20:02, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
- If the news event was about a change to a long-standing thing or person or whatever (such as recent death, most commonly), we only need a single sentence. Of course this is a case-by-case basis - eg the blocking of the Suez Canal would not have gone up on a single sentence update. For something "new" on the other hand, we do expect a much larger expansion. --Masem (t) 19:04, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
For comparison, here is the state SpaceX Crew-1 was in, when it went on the main page. To my eyes it looks roughly equivalent. (In both cases, the meat of the information is not in the article for that individual vehicle. It's in the article for the program as a whole.) ApLundell (talk) 20:02, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
- Doing page size counts, that diff for the Crew-1 gets me 9000+ bytes of readable prose, while the current article for Shenzhou 12 is only 4100 bytes. It's definitely still on the short side. --Masem (t) 01:29, 19 June 2021 (UTC)
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(Posted) RD: Janet Malcolm
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): NYT
Credits:
- Updated and nominated by Innisfree987 (talk · give credit)
Article updated
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Nominator's comments: Long-time The New Yorker writer. Needs a few citations but shouldn’t take long. Innisfree987 (talk) 16:54, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
- Referenced and moderately expanded. Innisfree987 (talk) 00:59, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
- Innisfree987, Works section needs refs. SirEdimon Dimmi!!! 02:45, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
- SirEdimon, may I ask for clarification—what sort of reference? The bulk of my WP work is about writers and typically the books themselves are the reference. Is it that you want them laid out in {{cite book...}} format? Innisfree987 (talk) 02:55, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
- Innisfree987, Normally, including the ISBN is enough to "prove" that the book was really written by the person. SirEdimon Dimmi!!! 03:57, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
- SirEdimon, gotcha—thanks, they’re all there now. Innisfree987 (talk) 04:44, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
- Innisfree987, Normally, including the ISBN is enough to "prove" that the book was really written by the person. SirEdimon Dimmi!!! 03:57, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
- SirEdimon, may I ask for clarification—what sort of reference? The bulk of my WP work is about writers and typically the books themselves are the reference. Is it that you want them laid out in {{cite book...}} format? Innisfree987 (talk) 02:55, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
- Innisfree987, Works section needs refs. SirEdimon Dimmi!!! 02:45, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
- Posted --PFHLai (talk) 06:19, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
June 15
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(Posted) RD: Thomas B. Day
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The San Diego Union-Tribune; San Diego State University
Credits:
- Updated and nominated by Bloom6132 (talk · give credit)
Article updated
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Bloom6132 (talk) 06:57, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
- Support - Well-sourced article.--SirEdimon Dimmi!!! 02:46, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
- Comment: The Career section appears to be incomplete. The first paragraph ends with him becoming the President of San Diego State in 1978. The second paragraph starts with his unpopular budget cuts in 1992 and he left for health reasons soon after. What happened in between? Any accomplishments during his 18 years as President? New student programs? Growth of funding for scholarly research? Campus expansions? Having campus facilities named after him? The current coverage on his career, with successes missing, seems a bit too negative. -PFHLai (talk) 05:13, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
- @PFHLai: done. —Bloom6132 (talk) 09:08, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
- Posted Thanks for the quick expansion. --PFHLai (talk) 12:02, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
Ongoing: Israel–Palestine crisis
Ongoing item nomination (Post)
News source(s): NYT, CNN, AP, BBC, Guardian
Credits:
- Nominated by Davey2116 (talk · give credit)
Article updated
Nominator's comments: The ceasefire has been broken (which is itself big news) and things can escalate even more from here. Davey2116 (talk) 03:15, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
- Comment Describing this definitively as a continuation of the same event seems like WP:OR. AllegedlyHuman (talk) 03:58, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
- I second this. It is equivalent to someone nominating Korean War for ongoing after a shootout occured in the borders.--Regards, Jeromi Mikhael 09:49, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
- Oppose The only updates that I can find are 1 sentence in the lede and a new date entry in the infobox. Let's give is a few days and some more update before we put this back in.130.233.213.61 (talk) 05:03, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
- Wait I had a feeling someone was going to nominate this immediately. There is no reason to be hasty, let's wait to see if anything escalates further. A single attack from both sides doesn't mean much. Mlb96 (talk) 06:51, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
- Comment We can post the ceasefire violation as a blurb for the moment and then decide on ongoing when it rolls off. Brandmeistertalk 06:55, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
- 'Wait. I would think that they are probably testing new PM Bennett. Wait and see what happens. 331dot (talk) 07:18, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
- Comment – In context of recent past, a mere skirmish. – Sca (talk) 12:24, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
- Wait One incident does not make for a need for ongoing yet. --Masem (t) 13:01, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
- Oppose I might support the ceasefire violation as a normal item, but I don't support return to ongoing yet.Jackattack1597 (talk) 15:11, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
- Support in principle, wait for now Ceasefire should stay as normal item for now, if it's agreed upon; If it gets place on the normal news, if it gets bumped off, then that's when we should add the crisis to Ongoing. Fakescientist8000 (talk) 15:28, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
- Wait If there is a re-escalation, makes sense to reblurb first. Albertaont (talk) 03:35, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
(Posted) RD: William vanden Heuvel
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The New York Times
Credits:
- Updated and nominated by Bloom6132 (talk · give credit)
Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
Bloom6132 (talk) 01:22, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
- Support looks a decent article, it could use a reference in the first sentence of the Career section JW 1961 Talk 21:36, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
- @Joseywales1961: added a ref. Thanks for spotting that – completely forgot about it. —Bloom6132 (talk) 23:16, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
- Posted Stephen 00:56, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
June 14
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(Posted) RD: Manuel Clavero
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): La Vanguardia
Credits:
- Nominated by Alsoriano97 (talk · give credit)
Article updated
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Nominator's comments: Spanish politician who during the Transition was in charge of developing the current system of autonomies. I have been working on it between today and yesterday, but it's not finished yet. The section that talks about his period as assistant minister of regions, I do not know if it's very clear for someone who does not know the Spanish autonomic and constitutional law, so please let me know if clarifications are needed. A review of grammar may be also necessary. _-_Alsoriano97 (talk) 16:20, 15 June 2021 (UTC)
- Nom. comment finished. Seems ready to be posted. _-_Alsoriano97 (talk) 22:02, 15 June 2021 (UTC)
- Support Looks good now --Vacant0 (talk) 22:16, 15 June 2021 (UTC)
- Posted Stephen 23:29, 15 June 2021 (UTC)
(Posted) RD: Enrique Bolaños
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Confidencial
Credits:
- Nominated by Innisfree987 (talk · give credit)
Article needs updating
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
Nominator's comments: Former President of Nicaragua. Needs referencing and other revision but this substantial obit should help a lot. Additional assistance especially from Spanish speakers gratefully welcomed! Innisfree987 (talk) 08:00, 15 June 2021 (UTC)
Opposearticle is orange-tagged as needing more sources. Many citation needed tags which need fixing. Joseph2302 (talk) 08:51, 16 June 2021 (UTC)- @Joseph2302: fixed. Perhaps now it's ready. _-_Alsoriano97 (talk) 09:53, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
- Support looks fine for RD now, thanks for fixing. Joseph2302 (talk) 09:59, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
- @Joseph2302: fixed. Perhaps now it's ready. _-_Alsoriano97 (talk) 09:53, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
- Posted --PFHLai (talk) 12:11, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
(Posted) RD: Mburumba Kerina
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Variety
Credits:
- Nominated by Alsoriano97 (talk · give credit)
Article updated
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Nominator's comments: Namibian politician with a key role the in the construction of his country. Article seems in good shape. _-_Alsoriano97 (talk) 22:26, 14 June 2021 (UTC)
- Support article definitely good enough for RD. Joseph2302 (talk) 08:37, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
- Posted --PFHLai (talk) 12:07, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
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(Posted) RD: Ashley Henley
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [2]
Credits:
- Updated and nominated by Muboshgu (talk · give credit)
- Updated by Orangemike (talk · give credit)
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Nominator's comments: Murdered politician. It's still on the short side, but I'll work to expand it more on my next break. – Muboshgu (talk) 21:01, 15 June 2021 (UTC)
- Support Just barely above a stub, but the article is comprehensive and well referenced.130.233.213.61 (talk) 05:33, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
- Support It would be great if her activity as a politician could be expanded a bit more, but I think it's already enough as it is. _-_Alsoriano97 (talk) 13:05, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
- Posted Stephen 00:39, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
(Posted) RD: Carol Jarecki
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The New York Times
Credits:
- Updated and nominated by Bloom6132 (talk · give credit)
- Updated by Sunshineisles2 (talk · give credit)
Article updated
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Bloom6132 (talk) 19:32, 15 June 2021 (UTC)
- Support looks good enough for RD. Minor thing: a couple of links are pointing to a DAB page, would be nice to fix (though this shouldn't preclude the nomination from going on front page). Joseph2302 (talk) 08:18, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
- Posted --PFHLai (talk) 22:32, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
(Posted) RD: Ziona
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): AJ, BBC, CNN
Credits:
- Nominated by AllegedlyHuman (talk · give credit)
- Updated by Chhandama (talk · give credit), Bejnar (talk · give credit) and Nate Sailo (talk · give credit)
Article updated
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Nominator's comments: Indian man with 94 children. No, I'm not kidding. AllegedlyHuman (talk) 18:01, 15 June 2021 (UTC)
- Support article quality looks more than good enough for RD. Joseph2302 (talk) 08:15, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
- Posted --PFHLai (talk) 12:15, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
RD: Ned Beatty
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Variety
Credits:
- Nominated by Masem (talk · give credit)
Article updated
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Nominator's comments: Needs major updates and referencing to get to shape. Masem (t) 23:45, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
- Comments The lead seems overkill on listing off the films, there are lots of area's in the article that need sourcing from my first look. Govvy (talk) 12:02, 14 June 2021 (UTC)
- Oppose pretty much his entire career is unref'd. Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 19:27, 14 June 2021 (UTC)
- Strong oppose His career is unreferenced, his filmography is unreferenced, the only thing that has good sourcing is his death. KingOfAllThings (thou shalt chatter!) 23:49, 14 June 2021 (UTC)
2021 French Open
Blurb: In tennis, Barbora Krejčíková wins the Women's Singles and Novak Djokovic wins the Men's Singles at the French Open. (Post)
News source(s): CNN, BBC
Credits:
- Nominated by SirEdimon (talk · give credit)
Article updated
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--SirEdimon Dimmi!!! 21:15, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
- Oppose target has no prose at all about either final. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 21:16, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
- Oppose A page with mostly just tables of results is not sufficient, even for an ITNR item. See 2020 French Open, which was posted last year and had writeups for men's and women's singles.—Bagumba (talk) 07:27, 14 June 2021 (UTC)
- Oppose needs more prose such as a writeup of the main events. Joseph2302 (talk) 07:46, 14 June 2021 (UTC)
- Not ready. Needs a referenced prose summary of the tournament and/or finals, not just data tables. Modest Genius talk 10:54, 14 June 2021 (UTC)
- This seems to be a common theme with sports articles being nominated- they're being nominated with no text in the article summarising the event itself... Joseph2302 (talk) 11:12, 14 June 2021 (UTC)
- That's fine and nominating such articles here is a good way to advertise the need for improvement. The problem is when people think that the ITN/R status is an automatic qualifier that can bypass the quality requirement.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 18:09, 14 June 2021 (UTC)
- I agree that editors are allowed to nominate articles that aren't ready yet, in the hope of drawing more improvements to the article. I've done that myself in the past. But if the nominator knows the quality isn't good enough, that should really be mentioned in the nom comment. Modest Genius talk 14:45, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
- My frustration isn't about people nominating before it's ready, it's that they nominate it and just leave it as is, with no effort to try and make it ITN-worthy. And it seems to happen a lot more with sports articles than any other type of article. Joseph2302 (talk) 14:56, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
- Oppose In addition to lacking a prose update on who won, the article completely leaves out Naomi Osaka's withdrawal, which made bigger news than the finals, as far as I can tell. – Muboshgu (talk) 18:38, 14 June 2021 (UTC)
(Posted) Naftali Bennett, Thirty-sixth government of Israel (Benjamin Netanyahu ousted)
Blurb: In Israel, a new government is constituted by a vote of the Knesset, with Naftali Bennett of the New Right replacing Benjamin Netanyahu as prime minister. (Post)
Alternative blurb: Naftali Bennett replaces Benjamin Netanyahu as prime minister of Israel.
Alternative blurb II: Naftali Bennett replaces Benjamin Netanyahu as prime minister of Israel, ending the latter's twelve-year tenure.
Alternative blurb III: Naftali Bennett is selected as Prime Minister of Israel, succeeding Benjamin Netanyahu.
Alternative blurb IV: Naftali Bennett becomes Prime Minister of Israel, ending Benjamin Netanyahu's 12-year tenure.
Alternative blurb V: A new government is formed in Israel, with Naftali Bennett becoming prime minister, ending Benjamin Netanyahu's 12-year tenure.
News source(s): NYT, WaPo, CNN, AP, BBC, Reuters, Al Jazeera
Credits:
- Nominated by Davey2116 (talk · give credit)
Article updated
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Nominator's comments: End of the Netanyahu era! And not short enough it was. Davey2116 (talk) 18:01, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
- Support - I suggest maybe adding a picture and mentioning Netanyahu's twelve-year tenure? Nice4What (talk · contribs) – (Thanks ♥) 18:06, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
- Support alt blurb 2 If it's possible it would be good to include Thirty-sixth government of Israel in the blurb, a well-written article that describes/described the government formation. --Vacant0 (talk) 18:09, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
- Support with the conditions above. --Aknell4 (talk · contribs) 18:12, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
- Support in principle, but there are a few citation issues in each article precluding its posting just yet. – John M Wolfson (talk • contribs) 18:23, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
- Oppose The Prime Minister of Israel article needs a lot of work, as the vast majority of the text is uncited. I've added altblurb 3 which is closer to the usual ITN format. Uses x (leave me a message) 18:34, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
- Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought that the quality requirements only apply to the target article. Mlb96 (talk) 20:13, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
- It's a definite no if the target article doesn't meet the requirements (which doesn't apply here), but if there's concensus to require the other articles to meet a certain standard then that's okay too. Uses x (leave me a message) 21:07, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
- Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought that the quality requirements only apply to the target article. Mlb96 (talk) 20:13, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
- Support – pending expansion. Favor Alt3. – Sca (talk) 18:43, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
- Support 12 years in office, the end of a political crisis with 4 failed elections, consequences on recent events, and (per sources) has a lasting legacy. Undoubtedly should be on ITN. ProcrastinatingReader (talk) 19:12, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
- It's ITN/R so notability is already considered. Uses x (leave me a message) 20:05, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
- Support Alt 4 The length of Netanyahu's tenure is notable because of how incredibly long it was. Makes sense to include that in the blurb. Mlb96 (talk) 20:11, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
- Comment: I've adjusted the nom template above to have Naftali Bennett as the primary target article. The original target Thirty-sixth government of Israel is not in the latter alt blurbs. BTW, Bennett's bio could use more refs. --PFHLai (talk) 20:32, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
- Support immediately. --2601:C4:C300:1BD0:A14A:7D4C:4235:991D (talk) 20:54, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
- Support Both ITNR but also the unusual circumstances of how it happened. Albertaont (talk) 21:06, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
- Support Alt 4. What's the common noun for when there's 4 elections in 2 years cause parliaments? Maybe that should be mentioned too, like Naftali Bennett becomes Prime Minister of Israel, ending Benjamin Netanyahu's 12-year tenure and 26 months of coalition difficulty. (or whatever you parliamentary countries call it) Sagittarian Milky Way (talk) 21:09, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
- Comment interesting, we have an RFC ongoing where the proposal of a purely mechanical blurb is mandated. I guess some of us are robots, some dogs, and the rest somewhere between sentient beings and keyboard warriors, but I cherish this as a precise and deadly antidote to the nonsense "A equals B plus C" formulaic nonsense being proposed for this kind of thing. We need to be human about every story we publish, not some kind of algorithmic output. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 21:12, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
- Support this is a major event that will affect every single country in the Middle East. I think that it's important to mention that Netanyahu was the prime minister of Israel for 12 in a row so Alt 4 is my favourite option.Benbaruch (talk) 21:24, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
- Alt blurb5 to include both nominated target articles:
A new government is formed in Israel, with Naftali Bennett (pictured) replacing Benjamin Netanyahu as prime minister.
--PFHLai (talk) 21:32, 13 June 2021 (UTC) - Support alt 4, to give some context --Andrei (talk) 21:38, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
- Clear support on importance + ITNR, obviously wait until Bennett's article's is fixed up (a handful of tags, its almost there). I'd also recommend trying to get Netanyahu's article to be up there - its also similarly not far off, and its key to understanding this is important and more than just a simple transfer of power. --Masem (t) 21:43, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
- Posted a modified version of blurbs 4/5. -PFHLai (talk) 22:04, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
- Why was this posted with clear citation needed tags in Bennett's article? --Masem (t) 23:47, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
- Only a few... and not controversial. There are already almost a hundred refs in the article. --PFHLai (talk) 00:06, 14 June 2021 (UTC)
- Why was this posted with clear citation needed tags in Bennett's article? --Masem (t) 23:47, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
- I agree. I don't think the public interest should be superseded by a few cns. In general, I've always felt such an approach to be a bit dogmatic. El_C 00:55, 14 June 2021 (UTC)
- Pull the bold linked article is a BLP with CN tags. The solar eclipse was pulled for some whining at WP:ERRORS this is an actual issue. The bit about increasing visits to west bank "heritage sites" demands a citation. I've not checked the rest of the citations, I hope someone did. --LaserLegs (talk) 01:21, 14 June 2021 (UTC)
- Prime Minister of Israel is orange tagged bold or not we can't feature that on the MP. --LaserLegs (talk) 01:24, 14 June 2021 (UTC)
- "Prime Minister of Israel" is not featured. --PFHLai (talk) 01:42, 14 June 2021 (UTC)
- My removal of unreferenced material was reverted without explanation. It's a BLP, I challenged and removed the unreferenced material, and I was reverted. Does WP:BLP even exist anymore? FYI @Bagumba: --LaserLegs (talk) 17:57, 14 June 2021 (UTC)
- Perhaps Talk:Naftali Bennett would be a better place to discuss these issues with article contents, please? Or the user talk page of the reverting editor, perhaps? --PFHLai (talk) 22:05, 14 June 2021 (UTC)
- ARBPIA is a dumpster fire and I'm not going anywhere near it. I called attention to it, even took some action, and consensus is that unreferenced content in BLPs are fine for the MP. Should improve RD turnaround. Good luck. --LaserLegs (talk) 22:08, 14 June 2021 (UTC)
- Perhaps Talk:Naftali Bennett would be a better place to discuss these issues with article contents, please? Or the user talk page of the reverting editor, perhaps? --PFHLai (talk) 22:05, 14 June 2021 (UTC)
- Prime Minister of Israel is orange tagged bold or not we can't feature that on the MP. --LaserLegs (talk) 01:24, 14 June 2021 (UTC)
(Posted) RD: Toeti Heraty
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
Credits:
- Updated and nominated by Random680 (talk · give credit)
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
Nominator's comments: Indonesian poet.
- Support - I don't see any major flaw in the sourcing.--SirEdimon Dimmi!!! 21:17, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
- Oppose - Marginally notable person with little news coverage. While it technically meets the requirements, it's marginal. 1779Days (talk) 23:04, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
- Supports and Opposes to RD nominations should be based on article quality, not notability. Jackattack1597 (talk) 23:09, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
- 1779Days, Please, read Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#Voicing_an_opinion_on_an_item before voicing your opinion. Regards. SirEdimon Dimmi!!! 23:34, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
- Support Article looks fine, no tags. Jackattack1597 (talk) 23:11, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
- Comments/Minor suggestions: This article could use a few more refs and footnotes for various points regarding her career in academia (e.g. being chair, co-founding a department, etc.) Also need consistent vocabulary (is she "Dean" (in the prose) or the "Rector" (in the infobox) of the Jakarta Institute of the Arts"? Should her poem's English title be "Calon Arang: the Story of A Woman Victimized by Patriarchy" (in the prose) or "Calon Arang : the story of a woman sacrificed to patriarchy" (in the list of publications)? Or are they actually two different poems?) --PFHLai (talk) 03:29, 14 June 2021 (UTC)
- Support good enough for RD. Have marked as ready. Joseph2302 (talk) 08:12, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
- Posted I've also moved my minor questions at Talk:Toeti Heraty. Not big enough problems to halt this RD nom. --PFHLai (talk) 13:49, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
47th G7 summit
Blurb: The 47th G7 summit concludes, with leaders pledging to take action on COVID-19 and the climate. (Post)
Alternative blurb: Leaders pledge to donate 1 billion COVID-19 vaccines to developing nations and to reach net-zero carbon emissions by 2050 at the 47th G7 summit
Alternative blurb II: Leaders of the G7 nations call for peace in the Taiwan Strait, pledge to donate 1 billion COVID-19 vaccines to developing nations, and pledge to take action on climate at the 47th G7 summit
Alternative blurb III: The 47th G7 summit concludes, with leaders agreeing to enact a minimum global corporate tax rate, donate 1 billion COVID-19 vaccines, and take action on climate change.
News source(s): CBC, DW, Japan Times
Credits:
- Nominated by Aknell4 (talk · give credit)
Article updated
The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.
Nominator's comments: Meeting of the G7 nations pledging to donate vaccines, take climate initiative, and call for peace. Aknell4 (talk · contribs) 18:15, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
- Is this WP:ITNR? Kind of feels like it should be if it isn't, but I can also understand if it's mostly publicity these days. My support/oppose is based on the answer to that question. – John M Wolfson (talk • contribs) 18:26, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
- Oppose still some citation issues and the article being tagged. – John M Wolfson (talk • contribs) 18:31, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
- I think those are fixed now. --Aknell4 (talk · contribs) 18:49, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
- Support Article quality issues have been fixedJackattack1597 (talk) 19:01, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
- Oppose for now There's no update. For instance, the 1 billion COVID vaccine pledge and Taiwan Strait call for peace listed in the proposed blurbs are not mentioned in the article. The "Agenda" section talks about what will happen, but not was has happened. Another specific example is
Boris Johnson and Joe Biden will aim to 'unlock' travel restrictions between UK and amber-list US at G7 summit.[25]
Well, did they? – Muboshgu (talk) 20:16, 13 June 2021 (UTC)- Updated. --Aknell4 (talk · contribs) 20:47, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
- Weak support added a blurb which included the discussed measures from a week ago that ITN decided to postpone until the end of the summit. Article quality could be better but I think it's acceptable as is. NorthernFalcon (talk) 20:32, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
- Oppose vaccine pledges, taiwan strait, net zero were all announced by various G7 members prior to the summit. (Most coverage being on the US and a lesser extent UK vaccine and environment pledges). so what is the news? Albertaont (talk) 21:05, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
- Oppose nothing at all in there about what actually happened. Is this a joke, question??/ The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 21:17, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
- Oppose per all of the above, needs way more text on what the outcomes/main discussions there were. Joseph2302 (talk) 07:49, 14 June 2021 (UTC)
- Oppose ― Not ready. STSC (talk) 14:40, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
June 12
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(Posted) RD: Getatchew Haile
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Tadias Fana EPA
Credits:
- Nominated by Varavour (talk · give credit)
- Updated by Joofjoof (talk · give credit), Editrite! (talk · give credit), Lugnuts (talk · give credit) and Dominus Moravian (talk · give credit)
Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
Nominator's comments: Important Ethiopian philologist. Varavour (talk) 23:58, 15 June 2021 (UTC)
- Died on the 10th. Stephen 00:30, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
- Need a bit more on his death than just putting the date of death in a bracket next to his date of birth on the first line of the article. --PFHLai (talk) 03:00, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
- @PFHLai and Stephen: Text has been updated and cited. Joofjoof (talk) 09:07, 19 June 2021 (UTC)
- Posted --PFHLai (talk) 09:36, 19 June 2021 (UTC)
RD: Sanchari Vijay
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Times of India
Credits:
- Nominated by Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk · give credit)
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 09:37, 14 June 2021 (UTC)
- Comment quite a bit of the filmography still needs sourcing. Once that's fixed, looks good enough for RD. Joseph2302 (talk) 10:31, 15 June 2021 (UTC)
(Posted) RD: Milton Moses Ginsberg
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The New York Times
Credits:
- Updated and nominated by Bloom6132 (talk · give credit)
Article updated
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Nominator's comments: Only reported today (June 12); died on May 23. —Bloom6132 (talk) 23:36, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
- Oppose Given the lag between his death and reporting it suggests he is not really that notable enough for ITN, consider the New York Times at the beginning of the article noted he fell "into obscurity". Govvy (talk) 09:31, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
- Anyone with an article is presumed to meet the notability requirement for RD, votes should only be based on article quality.Jackattack1597 (talk) 11:07, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
- And even if this was based on notability, it's not measured by how quickly a grieving family chooses to go public.—Bagumba (talk) 11:20, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
- Not a reason to oppose. Uses x (leave me a message) 20:06, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
- Uses x, did you see the ref issues? SirEdimon Dimmi!!! 03:38, 14 June 2021 (UTC)
- @SirEdimon I don't know what you're referring to. That comment only makes mention of notability which isn't needed for ITN/RD. Uses x (leave me a message) 06:55, 14 June 2021 (UTC)
- @SirEdimon: all tags have now been addressed. —Bloom6132 (talk) 08:07, 14 June 2021 (UTC)
- Uses x, did you see the ref issues? SirEdimon Dimmi!!! 03:38, 14 June 2021 (UTC)
- Anyone with an article is presumed to meet the notability requirement for RD, votes should only be based on article quality.Jackattack1597 (talk) 11:07, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
- Support Now sufficient for RD JW 1961 Talk 09:04, 14 June 2021 (UTC)
- Posted --PFHLai (talk) 09:33, 14 June 2021 (UTC)
(Posted) RD: Mudcat Grant
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): MLB.com; Star Tribune; CBS Sports
Credits:
- Updated and nominated by Bloom6132 (talk · give credit)
Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
Bloom6132 (talk) 21:18, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
- Support - Well-sourced.--SirEdimon Dimmi!!! 05:41, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
- Posted --PFHLai (talk) 10:54, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
- Comment Two-time All-Star pitcher. InedibleHulk (talk) 11:28, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
(Closed) Christian Eriksen heart attack
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
Blurb: Danish footballer Christian Eriksen collapses during a match against Finland at the UEFA Euro 2020 tournament (Post)
Alternative blurb: Footballer Christian Eriksen is hospitalised after collapsing during a match.
Alternative blurb II: Danish footballer Christian Eriksen collapses during a match against Finland.
News source(s): Breakingnews.ie; The Guardian
Credits:
- Nominated by REDMAN 2019 (talk · give credit)
- Updated by GiantSnowman (talk · give credit)
Article updated
- I think it should be "Danish footballer Christian Eriksen collapses during a match against Finland at the UEFA Euro 2020 tournament". GiantSnowman 19:22, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
- Done. REDMAN 2019 (talk) 19:25, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
- In which case support. GiantSnowman 19:33, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
- Done. REDMAN 2019 (talk) 19:25, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
- Support —¿philoserf? (talk) 19:28, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
- Oppose He collapsed, but he's in stable condition. No impact beyond a suspended match. – Muboshgu (talk) 19:31, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
- Apart from it being front-page news across the world? GiantSnowman 19:33, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
- You know that there's more to In The News than getting picked up in a 24 hour news cycle. – Muboshgu (talk) 19:52, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
- Apart from it being front-page news across the world? GiantSnowman 19:33, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
- Oppose per Muboshgu. Not palpably important if you aren't into football. He is alert and conscious, so it's not like he's on death's door. Nohomersryan (talk) 19:49, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
- Oppose - thankfully this turned out not to be as grave as it first appeared. I'm very happy this isn't sufficiently notable for ITN. --LukeSurl t c 20:07, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
- Oppose Finland's 1:0 victory may be more significant than this scary episode of medical drama on the pitch. Has Finland ever won at this tourney? --PFHLai (talk) 20:12, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
- Nope. REDMAN 2019 (talk) 20:15, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
- Oppose It was highly disturbing and serious, but it is not front page material for us here at Wikipedia. I think we all know what would be. doktorb wordsdeeds 20:32, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
- Oppose assuming he gets better, there will be no long term impact of this. The teams playing the rest of the game today and Finland winning will (hopefully) be the highlight everyone remembers. But this isn't ITN worthy. Joseph2302 (talk) 20:45, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
- Oppose This is an example of "ITN is not a news ticker." Pawnkingthree (talk) 20:48, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
- Oppose Thankfully he seems to have gotten somewhat better, so it really doesn't have long term significance. I don't believe we posted a similar incident in the FA cup in 2012.Jackattack1597 (talk) 21:15, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
RD: Igor Zhelezovski
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Белорусский союз конькобежцев
Credits:
- Nominated by Count Iblis (talk · give credit)
Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
Count Iblis (talk) 11:58, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
- Oppose There is no
mention ofsource for his death in the article. Pawnkingthree (talk) 12:40, 12 June 2021 (UTC)- A source has now been added in the article. According to the source, he died of COVID. Count Iblis (talk) 17:26, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
- Oppose The article is not good. It is just a giant lead section, then some tables. In addition, it is sparsely referenced. Nohomersryan (talk) 18:21, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
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