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:{{Ping|Yae4}} I thought you were alright with changing the section, I guess that was a misunderstanding. Since we have been going back and forth a lot, I will bring in a third opinion so this issue can be mediated. --[[User:Greatder|Greatder]] ([[User talk:Greatder|talk]]) 10:50, 5 July 2021 (UTC)
:{{Ping|Yae4}} I thought you were alright with changing the section, I guess that was a misunderstanding. Since we have been going back and forth a lot, I will bring in a third opinion so this issue can be mediated. --[[User:Greatder|Greatder]] ([[User talk:Greatder|talk]]) 10:50, 5 July 2021 (UTC)
::{{user|Greatder}}, Changing the statement is one thing. Deleting it completely is another. {{bcc|Newslinger|Mr. Stradivarious}} -- [[User:Yae4|Yae4]] ([[User talk:Yae4|talk]]) 13:46, 5 July 2021 (UTC)
::{{user|Greatder}}, Changing the statement is one thing. Deleting it completely is another. {{bcc|Newslinger|Mr. Stradivarious}} -- [[User:Yae4|Yae4]] ([[User talk:Yae4|talk]]) 13:46, 5 July 2021 (UTC)
[[File:Pictogram voting comment.png|18px]] '''[[Wikipedia:Third Opinion|3O]] Response:''' It would seem to me that since this article is specifically about the Tor Phone, including data about the number of Tor users in total is rather misleading (a casual reading might lead one to believe that is the number of ''Tor Phone'' users), and not particularly relevant. The cited source doesn't discuss the number of Tor Phone users. It would be more useful here if anyone actually has addressed how many people specifically use Tor via the Tor Phone. If no one has those numbers available, that might be something it's not possible to add to the article at this time, but the numbers on Tor usage in total would be more appropriate for the main Tor article than this one. [[User:Seraphimblade|Seraphimblade]] <small><sup>[[User talk:Seraphimblade|Talk to me]]</sup></small> 00:17, 10 July 2021 (UTC)

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On adoption section

@Yae4: Why is a tor user needed in Tor phone adoption? That is a different article. Also why should the yahoo article be cited instead of the original ibtimes? --Greatder (talk) 10:56, 27 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Tor Phones use the Tor network. The number of Tor users, using many devices including phones, puts a maximum on the estimated number of Tor Phone users. They are related topics. Please explain about yahoo and ibtimes. I don't understand your question. It has been months since I worked on this article. If you have more or better sources, feel free to add them. -- Yae4 (talk) 09:59, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Yae4: A limitedly sold prototype devices can't be an accurately represented by all the tor users. On, the yahoo, basically yahoo and MSN hosts other news organizations article on their site to give them more 'exposure' and vaccum more revenue. Kind of like how most news sites publish a few reuters article every month. So, it's better to use the original article and not use some 'proxy' article. I am changing it back to my version for now. If you still disagree we may enter more talks. --Greatder (talk) 10:20, 29 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
It is an indicator with some useful info', and sourced, and relevant. If you prefer "the original article" then feel free to add it, but only deleting a valid source is not appropriate. -- Yae4 (talk) 11:38, 30 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Yae4: Why would you cite the same article in different form, reuse it. And I don't think tor users=tor phone users. Especially I don't think there was even a thousand buyer. --Greatder (talk) 08:59, 4 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Greatder, I probably didn't notice. There is no consensus to delete the eweek source. -- Yae4 (talk) 13:10, 4 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Yae4: I thought you were alright with changing the section, I guess that was a misunderstanding. Since we have been going back and forth a lot, I will bring in a third opinion so this issue can be mediated. --Greatder (talk) 10:50, 5 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Greatder (talk · contribs), Changing the statement is one thing. Deleting it completely is another. -- Yae4 (talk) 13:46, 5 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

3O Response: It would seem to me that since this article is specifically about the Tor Phone, including data about the number of Tor users in total is rather misleading (a casual reading might lead one to believe that is the number of Tor Phone users), and not particularly relevant. The cited source doesn't discuss the number of Tor Phone users. It would be more useful here if anyone actually has addressed how many people specifically use Tor via the Tor Phone. If no one has those numbers available, that might be something it's not possible to add to the article at this time, but the numbers on Tor usage in total would be more appropriate for the main Tor article than this one. Seraphimblade Talk to me 00:17, 10 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]