User talk:Marcelus

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Citations needed

Please can you provide some citations for the additions you made to the article on Lviv.-- Toddy1 (talk) 06:30, 19 August 2018 (UTC)

Citation

Hi, in this edit you added information cited to "Buchowski", but did not add any more info about this source -- it is a book or an article? what's the title? when was it published? how one could find this source and verify the information? Can you add the full citation to the source? Preferably using the {{cite book}} or {{cite journal}} template. Thanks! Renata (talk) 05:46, 15 May 2019 (UTC)

Hi, you are still doing it -- adding abbreviated references without also adding the full citation. Please fix. Examples Kingdom of Lithuania, Pact of Vilnius and Radom, History of Vilnius (1), History of Vilnius (2), Skirgaila, Tokhtamysh. Thanks, Renata (talk) 00:17, 6 October 2019 (UTC)

Hi, I see you added frost to the articles - thank you, but you have cited other books as well - "Halperin" in Tokhtamysh, Januszewska-Jurkiewicz & Mačiulis, Staliūnas & Stankeras in History of Vilnius. Please add those citations as well. Renata (talk) 03:30, 17 October 2019 (UTC)

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Thank you for your recent articles, including Michał Węsławski, which I read with interest. When you create a new article, can you add the WikiProject assessment templates to the talk of that article? See the talk page of the article I mentioned for an example of what I mean. Usually it is very simple, you just add something like {{WikiProject Keyword}} to the article's talk, with keyword replaced by the associated WikiProject (ex. if it's a biography article, you would use WikiProject Biography; if it's a United States article, you would use WikiProject United States, and so on). You do not have to rate the article if you do not want to, others will do it eventually. Those templates are very useful, as they bring the articles to a WikiProject attention, and allow them to start tracking the articles through Wikipedia:Article alerts and other tools. For example, WikiProject Poland relies on such templates to generate listings such as Article Alerts, Popular Pages, Quality and Importance Matrix and the Cleanup Listing. Thanks to them, WikiProject members are more easily able to defend your work from deletion, or simply help try to improve it further. Feel free to ask me any questions if you'd like more information about using those talk page templates. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 10:10, 6 December 2019 (UTC)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8EDW88CBo-8 — Preceding unsigned comment added by א 543182677 (talk • contribs) 19:31, 21 July 2020 (UTC)

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Answer

I will answer both of you at once here. Pofka and Itzhak Rosenberg.

According to the studies of Jerzy Suchocki at the turn of 14th-15th century 97% of the office helders in GDL were ethnic Lithuanians, in the mid of 15th century the percentage of Ruthenians jumped to 19%, in the 2nd half it was 37% and at the beginning of the next century 41%. So as you can see basically after the death of Vytautas the influence of Ruthenian elite was growning steadily. Maybe they weren't allowed to live in a castle complex, but surely they were living in the city.

Pofka try to hold your horses because I will have to report your behaviour, don't blame of sentiments I do not have - I never said anything anti-Lithuanian or humilated Lithuanian language, don't say anything like that again.

I didn't say that Jogaila prefered Ruthenian over Lithuanian, I just said that he surely knew both. That's all. And actually it's probable that he didn't learn Polish, I think he was fully able to comunicate with Polish lords in Ruthenian.

Itzhak Rosenberg I don't think we can't talk about some tensions between ethnically Lithuanian and Ruthenian great families after the Union of Lublin, they were all pretty much polonised and formed together political nation of Ukraine. But certainly there was many Ruthenian powerful nobles on the territory of GDL after Lublin Marcelus (talk) 22:36, 21 June 2021 (UTC)

Very interesting source, unfortunately, I can't access it anywhere... The numbers are fascinating, yet at the start of the 16th century, there were still sizeable Ruthenian lands that were part of GDL, most of which was ceded to Poland after the Lublin Union (let's remember that Lithuania Propria's lands in modern-day Belarus are often overlooked). Of course, there were Ruthenians, but the Lithuanian element in the Ruthenian lands of Ukraine naturally decreased over time, as I know for sure they often married into the local nobility, so over a few generations, they practically became locals.

I would be wary talking about the political nation of Ukraine, because from what I understand, a somewhat sovereign Ukraine started with the Cossack Hetmanate and they were very against the szlachta, which is very understandable considering their relations and how they already had many previous Cossack uprisings.

Considering the smaller size of GDL post-Lublin, the Lithuanian nobility dominated the state once more, although with increased Ruthenian involvement relative to the times of Vytautas the Great. --Itzhak Rosenberg (talk) 10:19, 22 June 2021 (UTC)

I can send you pdf of the article if you want. You cannot deny the existence of the influential Ruthenian elite since the beginning - 14th century in both the Crown and Grand Duchy Marcelus (talk) 22:04, 22 June 2021 (UTC)

I will not discuss anything serious with a person who purposefully presents Ruthenian and Polish languages names of the Lithuanian CoA as superior, "accurate" and absolutely excludes the Lithuanian names. All names of the CoA of Lithuania are listed here: Coat of arms of Lithuania#Origins of the word Vytis and other names without excluding any, thus we do not attempt to present any languages as irrelevant, unlike you. Your anti-Lithuanian opinion was more than clear when you excluded Waikymas / Vytis. The Lithuanians did not created article named Waikymas or Vytis and did not presented these names as exclusively "accurate names", like you did. I have better things to do than discuss anti-Lithuanian sentiment again and again. Have a good day, -- Pofka (talk) 17:34, 22 June 2021 (UTC)

Vytis is 19th century neologism, Waikymas isn't the name of the CoA. Marcelus (talk) 22:04, 22 June 2021 (UTC)

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