Talk:Passover: Difference between revisions
m Reverted edits by 193.117.184.3 (talk) to last revision by RenatUK: using talk page as forum |
→Date and duration: new section |
||
Line 26: | Line 26: | ||
: Most of the articles I've found on the Pentateuch and Judaism content area are dominated by atheistic biblical minimalism misconstrued as "scholarly consensus", Wellhausen's discredited [[documentary hypothesis]] assumed as fact and stated in WikiVoice, and denials of jewish text and history that miscontrued as "Mainstream". Anti-semitism? That is by accident. It is basic ignorance. [[antijudaism]] and more than that, a combination of atheism and nostalgic polytheism. As a consequence, it seems like Jewish editors have taking to writing in "Yinglish" and not translating. As of 2021, there is still no mention of the [[Haggadah]] in the lede. The [[passover]] wikilink didn't appear in [[the Exodus]] until I recently put it there. Its not enough to complain - Editors like you should add that.[[User:Jaredscribe|Jaredscribe]] ([[User talk:Jaredscribe|talk]]) 00:17, 7 April 2021 (UTC) |
: Most of the articles I've found on the Pentateuch and Judaism content area are dominated by atheistic biblical minimalism misconstrued as "scholarly consensus", Wellhausen's discredited [[documentary hypothesis]] assumed as fact and stated in WikiVoice, and denials of jewish text and history that miscontrued as "Mainstream". Anti-semitism? That is by accident. It is basic ignorance. [[antijudaism]] and more than that, a combination of atheism and nostalgic polytheism. As a consequence, it seems like Jewish editors have taking to writing in "Yinglish" and not translating. As of 2021, there is still no mention of the [[Haggadah]] in the lede. The [[passover]] wikilink didn't appear in [[the Exodus]] until I recently put it there. Its not enough to complain - Editors like you should add that.[[User:Jaredscribe|Jaredscribe]] ([[User talk:Jaredscribe|talk]]) 00:17, 7 April 2021 (UTC) |
||
== Date and duration == |
|||
The following sentence under the heading "Date and duration" seems to be at least partially wrong: "In 2009, for example, Nisan 15 on the Jewish calendar used by Rabbinic Judaism corresponds to April 9. On the calendars used by Karaites and Samaritans, Abib or Aviv 15 (as opposed to 'Nisan') corresponds to April 11 in 2009.". It is true that the Rabbanite calendar gave "9 April" as the equivalent date of "15 Nisan" in 2009 C.E., and it is also true that the Qaraite (observational) calendar considered "day 15 of the 1st month ('month of the Aviv')" to correspond to "11 April" in the same year. But it is not true that the Samaritan calendar, which counts days from the astronomical conjunction (or an approximation of it), gave the same date; most probably the day they considered as "Abib 15" corresponded to "10 April" in 2009 C.E. (compare e.g. "The Samaritan Update" on https://shomron0.tripod.com/2009/janfeb.html). |
|||
Better examples would be the last two years. In 2021 C.E., the Rabbanite calendar gave "28 March" as corresponding to "15 Nisan". The Qaraite calendar instead considered "29 March" to be corresponding to "day 15 of the 1st month", but the Samaritan calendar gave "26 April" (about one lunar month later) as "Abib 15". This year, in 2022 C.E., the Samaritan date for the "First day of Unleavened Bread" will be on "15 April", the Rabbanite date on "16 April", and the Qaraite date (most probably) on "17 April". Both the Rabbanite and the Qaraite calendars do have thirteen months in the current Hebrew year, but the Samaritan calendar has only twelwe months in this Hebrew year; therefore the Samaritans have been able to "catch up" by one lunar month. /Erik Ljungstrand (Sweden) |
Revision as of 13:20, 8 March 2022
This article is of interest to the following WikiProjects: | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Please add the quality rating to the {{WikiProject banner shell}} template instead of this project banner. See WP:PIQA for details.
Please add the quality rating to the {{WikiProject banner shell}} template instead of this project banner. See WP:PIQA for details.
Please add the quality rating to the {{WikiProject banner shell}} template instead of this project banner. See WP:PIQA for details.
Please add the quality rating to the {{WikiProject banner shell}} template instead of this project banner. See WP:PIQA for details.
Please add the quality rating to the {{WikiProject banner shell}} template instead of this project banner. See WP:PIQA for details. |
A fact from this article was featured on Wikipedia's Main Page in the On this day section on 17 dates. [show] |
This article has been viewed enough times in a single week to appear in the Top 25 Report 3 times. The weeks in which this happened: |
This page has archives. Sections older than 183 days may be automatically archived by Lowercase sigmabot III. |
Origin
This section is giving credence to highly controversial atheistic and anti Semitic views. Suggest that since the article is on a Jewish festival commemorating God freeing the Israelites from Slavery out of Egypt, the origin section is removed or at least renamed “alternative origin theory”. If one needs to know the origin of the festival, one should start by reading the Haggadah first. Chag Samech. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 150.143.179.67 (talk) 00:07, 2021 April 5 (UTC)
- Most of the articles I've found on the Pentateuch and Judaism content area are dominated by atheistic biblical minimalism misconstrued as "scholarly consensus", Wellhausen's discredited documentary hypothesis assumed as fact and stated in WikiVoice, and denials of jewish text and history that miscontrued as "Mainstream". Anti-semitism? That is by accident. It is basic ignorance. antijudaism and more than that, a combination of atheism and nostalgic polytheism. As a consequence, it seems like Jewish editors have taking to writing in "Yinglish" and not translating. As of 2021, there is still no mention of the Haggadah in the lede. The passover wikilink didn't appear in the Exodus until I recently put it there. Its not enough to complain - Editors like you should add that.Jaredscribe (talk) 00:17, 7 April 2021 (UTC)
Date and duration
The following sentence under the heading "Date and duration" seems to be at least partially wrong: "In 2009, for example, Nisan 15 on the Jewish calendar used by Rabbinic Judaism corresponds to April 9. On the calendars used by Karaites and Samaritans, Abib or Aviv 15 (as opposed to 'Nisan') corresponds to April 11 in 2009.". It is true that the Rabbanite calendar gave "9 April" as the equivalent date of "15 Nisan" in 2009 C.E., and it is also true that the Qaraite (observational) calendar considered "day 15 of the 1st month ('month of the Aviv')" to correspond to "11 April" in the same year. But it is not true that the Samaritan calendar, which counts days from the astronomical conjunction (or an approximation of it), gave the same date; most probably the day they considered as "Abib 15" corresponded to "10 April" in 2009 C.E. (compare e.g. "The Samaritan Update" on https://shomron0.tripod.com/2009/janfeb.html). Better examples would be the last two years. In 2021 C.E., the Rabbanite calendar gave "28 March" as corresponding to "15 Nisan". The Qaraite calendar instead considered "29 March" to be corresponding to "day 15 of the 1st month", but the Samaritan calendar gave "26 April" (about one lunar month later) as "Abib 15". This year, in 2022 C.E., the Samaritan date for the "First day of Unleavened Bread" will be on "15 April", the Rabbanite date on "16 April", and the Qaraite date (most probably) on "17 April". Both the Rabbanite and the Qaraite calendars do have thirteen months in the current Hebrew year, but the Samaritan calendar has only twelwe months in this Hebrew year; therefore the Samaritans have been able to "catch up" by one lunar month. /Erik Ljungstrand (Sweden)
- B-Class Judaism articles
- Top-importance Judaism articles
- B-Class Religion articles
- Top-importance Religion articles
- WikiProject Religion articles
- B-Class Bible articles
- High-importance Bible articles
- WikiProject Bible articles
- B-Class Holidays articles
- High-importance Holidays articles
- WikiProject Holidays articles
- B-Class Israel-related articles
- High-importance Israel-related articles
- WikiProject Israel articles
- Selected anniversaries (April 2004)
- Selected anniversaries (April 2005)
- Selected anniversaries (April 2006)
- Selected anniversaries (April 2007)
- Selected anniversaries (April 2008)
- Selected anniversaries (April 2009)
- Selected anniversaries (March 2010)
- Selected anniversaries (April 2011)
- Selected anniversaries (April 2012)
- Selected anniversaries (March 2013)
- Selected anniversaries (April 2014)
- Selected anniversaries (April 2015)
- Selected anniversaries (April 2016)
- Selected anniversaries (March 2018)
- Selected anniversaries (April 2019)
- Selected anniversaries (April 2020)
- Selected anniversaries (March 2021)
- Pages in the Wikipedia Top 25 Report