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No out-of-universe notability asserted. There are no sources at all in the article, and I was unable to find any that did not originate from Watterson himself except for a few superficial mentions (less than a full sentence) in articles about Calvin and Hobbes. Neither Calvin nor Hobbes has his own article, so it makes zero sense for Spiff to have one. Redirect was contested with rationale of "take it to AFD". Previous AFD was in 2005, when rationales for keeping were vastly different than they are now. Ten Pound Hammer • ^{(What did I screw up now?)} 02:49, 19 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Fictional elements and Comics and animation. Ten Pound Hammer • ^{(What did I screw up now?)} 02:49, 19 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Comment why would you redirect it if there was a prior AfD? That’s clearly not appropriate. Artw (talk) 03:37, 19 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
By what policy? Ten Pound Hammer • ^{(What did I screw up now?)} 03:42, 19 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The fact that the first nomination ended in Keep. Why does your opinion overrule the opinion of the participants of the first discussion? DonaldD23 talk to me 11:36, 19 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Delete for its original research. No comment on the other points. NotReallySoroka (talk) 06:20, 19 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Attempting to find the full text or a quote at an established RS, but what i have seen of "The Calvin and Hobbes Tenth Anniversary Book" confirms what is in the article. Have added it in a more conventional citation format with a "check", which I will be following up on shortly. Artw (talk) 17:21, 19 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect back to Calvin and Hobbes. The character is not independently notable (doesn't meet WP:GNG), and is not significant enough to merit a WP:SPINOFF. Just like Calvinball, transmogrifier, and many other wonderful parts of C&H, the content about Spaceman Spiff belongs in the the C&H article so the reader can read it in context. Spiff just isn't significant enough to merit being spun off onto a separate page. (Also the arguments about the 2005 AFD are as laughable as they are deceptive: this was a redirect from 2006, after the AFD, until 2019; and seriously, a 2005 AFD?? That's way too old to care about.) Levivich 18:07, 19 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Calvin and Hobbes#Calvin's_alter-egos. A few more sentences could be added to the Spaceman Spiff entry there. I just don't see that the character is notable enough on their own. As for the 2005 AFD we could now have editor, who have children, that were children in 2005 (sorry for making everyone feel old), and a generation old AFD holding any weight is overly bureaucratic. - LCU ActivelyDisinterested ∆transmissions∆ °co-ords° 18:23, 19 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Merge and Redirect to Calvin and Hobbes#Calvin's_alter-egos. Why have a second article when the information can be put in proper context in the original article. I dearly love Calvin and Hobbes, and of course Spaceman Spiff - who couldn't? - but he doesn't need a separate article. Elemimele (talk) 19:16, 19 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect back to Calvin and Hobbes. That's clearly the suitable solution for this. Reyk _YO! 09:26, 20 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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 *'''Redirect''' to [[Calvin and Hobbes#Calvin's_alter-egos]]. A few more sentences could be added to the Spaceman Spiff entry there. I just don't see that the character is notable enough on their own. As for the 2005 AFD we could now have editor, who have children, that were children in 2005 (sorry for making everyone feel old), and a '''generation''' old AFD holding any weight is overly bureaucratic. - LCU '''[[User:ActivelyDisinterested|ActivelyDisinterested]]''' ''∆[[User talk:ActivelyDisinterested|transmissions]]∆'' °[[Special:Contributions/ActivelyDisinterested|co-ords]]° 18:23, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
 *'''Merge and Redirect''' to [[Calvin and Hobbes#Calvin's_alter-egos]]. Why have a second article when the information can be put in proper context in the original article. I dearly love Calvin and Hobbes, and of course Spaceman Spiff - who couldn't? - but he doesn't need a separate article. [[User:Elemimele|Elemimele]] ([[User talk:Elemimele|talk]]) 19:16, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
+*'''Redirect''' back to [[Calvin and Hobbes]]. That's clearly the suitable solution for this. [[User:Reyk|<b style="color: Maroon;">Reyk</b>]] <sub>[[User talk:Reyk|<b style="color: Blue;">YO!</b>]]</sub> 09:26, 20 June 2022 (UTC)