User talk:Zenzyyx

Quotes

You have some great quotes on your page! Thanks for sharing, Zen. - JGabbard (talk) 04:23, 17 February 2022 (UTC)

@JGabbard Hey J, apologies for the late reply! Thank you! All quotes I have on my page hold some kind of weight & meaning in my life. It's good to see other's relating to it too. zenzyyx_ (talk) 20:53, 13 April 2022 (UTC)

ATTENTION

I DELETE TOPICS ON MY TALK PAGE ONCE THE CONVERSATION HAS BECOME DORMANT IN ORDER TO AVOID CLOGGING IT. zenzyyx_ (talk) 12:10, 29 July 2022 (UTC)

Why not use the archiving facility? Deb (talk) 08:16, 10 August 2022 (UTC)

Eastern Anatolia Region

I'm not sure if this is a competance issue of yours or something else, but at this point of your account age, you should be aware that we don't use short essay edit summaries as means of communication like you did here [1], [2], especially for controversial edits, and especially when your arguments are subpar at best for justifying removal of an entire sourced section. There are talk pages for these kinds of things, you should discuss on the article talk page and raise your concerns, like I'm doing now discussing you on your talk page, and you could've noticed at least per article history that your edits would most likely face opposition. You've removed entire chunks of information with subpar at best rationale, and here's why;

This section is being removed because it is inconsistent with how all other articles on the Geographical regions of Turkey are structured. This issue has been raised in the talk page a few times, and is a legitimate one. These articles are not about the history of said regions, but current information (as evidenced by the remaining 6 articles relating to the geographical regions of Turkey

Not all articles are structured the same way, I'm not sure if this is a surprise for you or not, see WP:OTHERCONTENT which your arguments is at core. Especially when there is sourced information about the history of Eastern Anatolia Region that merits inclusion, it's a history section of its own. Why exactly, based on what valid rationale, this shouldn't be included in the article? I'm dumbfounded with your edit summary mini essay "argument" and lack of talk discussion for blanking an entire section.

Refer to previous edit summary + the Armenian translation included in the article translates to "Western Armenia", not "Eastern Anatolia Region". Again this is inconsistent with how all other articles on the Geographical regions of Turkey are structured.

That's not a translation, it's the separate and original name, see Western Armenia or Armenian highlands, it's even cited in the sources you removed if you actually bothered to read before removing an entire section. It predates Eastern Anatolia (see First Geography Congress, Turkey) by many years. And the second part of your argument is the same whataboutism which I addressed above. Your third edit is another WP:OTHERCONTENT whataboutism and lacks a valid rationale for removing well sourced content, like the other two.

You should consider stopping POV removal of an entire section and perhaps start discussing for especially controversial edits, just a thought. You may get sanctioned if you continue this type of POV editing pattern. I'm going to restore the valid and relevant information. If you have any disagreements, we can discuss here or on the article talk page. ZaniGiovanni (talk) 23:36, 9 August 2022 (UTC)

August 2022

Please stop your disruptive editing.

• If you are engaged in an article content dispute with another editor, discuss the matter with the editor at their talk page, or the article's talk page, and seek consensus with them. Alternatively you can read Wikipedia's dispute resolution page, and ask for independent help at one of the relevant noticeboards.
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If you continue to disrupt Wikipedia, as you did at Eastern Anatolia Region, you may be blocked from editing. ZaniGiovanni (talk) 23:37, 9 August 2022 (UTC)

Ashure

Hello. In good faith, I'm contacting first to understand your rationale regarding your recent edits in Ashure. Could you please explain:

A) Where did you get the country of origin [3]?

B) Where was it "sourced throughout the article" that you felt the need to edit-war over your own addition [4]? You then remove actual sourced content throughout the article [5] (p.351), asking others to "add with reliable sources". Didn't you even check the article sources if you're so keen in looking for "sources throughout the article" when citing a Turkish origin, even tho there wasn't any source for it in the article, while clearly there was one for the Armenian celebration?

C) When you were pointed out to finally cite sources for your own edits [6], you then replace the origin with Anatolia according to the legend, and again remove the passage about Armenian celebration from the lead, now saying it's "already in the history part". What's the source for "Anatolia according to legend", why do you cite origin of something based on a legend even if there is a source, and why you removed the only actual sourced part about Armenian celebration from the lead, while kept the Turkish/Balkan one which was also in the below history section? And why be selective about keeping Turkish/Balkan info in lead while removing the Armenian one because it's in "history section", when it's the same type of information i.e. religious celebration?

Are you capable of understanding how much of tendentious editing, bad faith and incompetence you've demonstrated in this article alone in 24hrs? Are you capable of recognizing this? ZaniGiovanni (talk) 08:42, 13 August 2022 (UTC)

@ZaniGiovanni

A) and B) The place of origin (according to legend) is Mount Ararat, which is in Anatolia (Turkey). This is what is stated in the article, too.

C) That information was the exact same of what was written in the "history and tradition" section of the article. Like, the exact same. So when I realized this, I removed it. No information or source was removed, said info and source are already in that section of the article.

You keep repeating the last paragraph containing false information wherever you can (WP:ASPERSIONS). Please cease doing so. zenzyyx (talk) 09:04, 13 August 2022 (UTC)

@ZaniGiovanni By the way, I've decided to re-include the part that was repeated. So your only concern is about the origins, right? It is stated in the article that

"In anecdotal history, it is claimed that when Noah's Ark came to rest on Mount Ararat, Prophet Noah's family celebrated with a special dish. Since their supplies were nearly exhausted, what was left (primarily grains, dried fruits and the like) was cooked together to form a pudding, what is now called ashure" zenzyyx (talk) 09:15, 13 August 2022 (UTC)

We don't write the origin based on a "legend", I hope you're capable of understanding this. If there is a source that you can cite clearly citing origin, not what happened in a bible legend, then you can add it. Otherwise, I think it's best to leave the origin blank (how the article was before your edits) as there isn't a clear source currently in the article indicating any origin. Also, nothing I said here is WP:ASPERSIONS, please retract your false accusation. ZaniGiovanni (talk) 09:23, 13 August 2022 (UTC)

@ZaniGiovanni It is the only information of possible origin we have (which is why I had also stated it is "according to legend"). Nothing hinders editors from stating this, especially when it's the only possible origin stated (as seen in the "history and traditions" part of the article).

You continue to falsely accuse me of incompetence among other stuff. I would appreciate it if you could cease doing so and maintain a civil discussion. Let's drop this topic here and communicate in a civil way. zenzyyx (talk) 09:30, 13 August 2022 (UTC)

Notice of Arbitration Enforcement noticeboard discussion

Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a report involving you at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement regarding a possible violation of an Arbitration Committee decision. Thank you. ZaniGiovanni (talk) 11:20, 13 August 2022 (UTC)

Notice that you are now subject to an arbitration enforcement sanction

The following sanction now applies to you:

You are indefinitely topic banned from the subjects of Armenia, Azerbaijan, or related ethnic conflicts, broadly construed.

You have been sanctioned pursuant to this discussion at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement.

This sanction is imposed in my capacity as an uninvolved administrator under the authority of the Arbitration Committee's decision at Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Armenia-Azerbaijan 2#Final decision and, if applicable, the procedure described at Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee/Discretionary sanctions. This sanction has been recorded in the log of sanctions. If the sanction includes a ban, please read the banning policy to ensure you understand what this means. If you do not comply with this sanction, you may be blocked for an extended period, by way of enforcement of this sanction—and you may also be made subject to further sanctions.

You may appeal this sanction using the process described here. I recommend that you use the arbitration enforcement appeals template if you wish to submit an appeal to the arbitration enforcement noticeboard. You may also appeal directly to me (on my talk page), before or instead of appealing to the noticeboard. Even if you appeal this sanction, you remain bound by it until you are notified by an uninvolved administrator that the appeal has been successful. You are also free to contact me on my talk page if anything of the above is unclear to you. --Blablubbs (talk) 14:06, 14 August 2022 (UTC)

• I'm going to cut you some slack because this is a first offence, but considering that a large part of Doctor Nazım's notability seems to stem from his role in the Armenian genocide, this edit strikes me as a fairly unambiguous violation of your topic ban. Further edits like it are likely to result in a block. --Blablubbs (talk) 13:05, 17 August 2022 (UTC)

  @Blablubbs Apologies, I had only added that he was a Turkish Jew. Won't happen again. zenzyyx (talk) 13:09, 17 August 2022 (UTC)

Your draft article, Draft:Ahmet Celalettin Pasha

Hello, Zenzyyx. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or draft page you started, "Ahmet Celalettin Pasha".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been nominated for deletion. If you plan on working on it further, or editing it to address the issues raised if it was declined, simply and remove the {{db-afc}}, {{db-draft}}, or {{db-g13}} code.

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Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia! Hey man im josh (talk) 13:11, 17 August 2022 (UTC)

@Hey man im josh Thanks for the notice zenzyyx (talk) 16:10, 18 August 2022 (UTC)