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It's unnecessary to have two templates now, just Boomerang is fine. –MegaSmike46 (talk) 17:37, 7 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Merge per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 17:15, 8 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the template(s) or module(s) below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the template's talk page or in a deletion review).

The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 14:47, 9 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Template:LCR color (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:LCR lines (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:LCR lines/branches (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:LCR stations (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:LCR style (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:S-line/LCR left/LCR (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:S-line/LCR left/Line 2 (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:S-line/LCR right/LCR (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:S-line/LCR right/Line 2 (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

replaced by Module:Adjacent stations/Elizabeth Line Frietjes (talk) 19:29, 6 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 17:13, 8 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Straight replacement so no huhu. --AlisonW (talk) 18:10, 8 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the template's talk page or in a deletion review).

Template:EESL

Template:EESL (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

WP:NENAN. –Aidan721 (talk) 17:39, 6 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 17:13, 8 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Winners-2

Template:Winners-2 (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Winners-3 (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

No transclusions. –Aidan721 (talk) 17:33, 6 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Delete because I changed my mind. -St3095 ^(?) 17:49, 6 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 17:16, 8 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Cross-country skiing

Template:Cross-country skiing (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Triathlon (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

No transclusions. –Aidan721 (talk) 17:27, 6 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 17:13, 8 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Bibleverse

Template:Bibleverse (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Bibleverse-lb (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Bibleverse-nb (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Biblesource (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Bibleref2 (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Bibleref2-nb (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Bibleref2c (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Bibleref2c-nb (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Propose merging Template:Bibleverse, Template:Bibleverse-lb, Template:Bibleverse-nb, Template:Biblesource, Template:Bibleref2, Template:Bibleref2-nb, Template:Bibleref2c and Template:Bibleref2c-nb.
Silly quantity of templates that all provide external links to Bible chapters and verses, but vary ever so slightly on capabilities: one prioritises links to biblegateway.com (unnecessary, seeing as you can already choose translation – there's nothing unique it offers iirc); others create little inline superscript text; some provide wikilinks to the books referenced; and so on.

These templates don't accurately describe their differences in capability in their naming – "ref2" is a holdover from when {{Bibleref}} wasn't a redirect to {{Bibleverse}}. Moreover, there's no need for all of these differing capabilities to be separate templates – {{Bibleverse}} is the most descriptive in its name, and the only one I'd say is needed, if all other capabilities were rolled into it.—Ineffablebookkeeper (talk) ({{ping}} me!) 17:23, 6 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Support merging all. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 21:23, 6 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Support merging all, as above. – QueenofBithynia (talk) 21:51, 6 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Support merging as above and share preference for using {{bibleverse}}, but {{bibleverse-nb}} should also be retained as this omits the name of the book, as in the example given in the template article. BobKilcoyne (talk) 04:05, 7 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- @BobKilcoyne: are multiple verse ranges not supported in {{bibleverse}} currently? Could they be included in its capabilities?—Ineffablebookkeeper (talk) ({{ping}} me!) 21:59, 7 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- @Ineffablebookkeeper: not from what I can tell, for example:
  - Both John 1:1–5,3:1–8 and John 1:1–5;3:1–8 using {{bibleverse}} should refer to a few verses in John 1 and then a few in John 3, but actually open up the whole of John 1:1 to John 5:3.
  - John 1:1–5, John 3:1–8 using {{bibleverse}} presents two passages but repeats the word "John"
  - John 1:1–5, 3:1–8 reads John 1:1–5, 3:1–8 - the desired result, using {{bibleverse-nb}} for the second reference
- I think it is also worth looking at retaining the functionality of {{Bibleverse-lb}}, see for example Ezra 2:63, which creates a link to the Book of Ezra as well as a link to the JPS version of Ezra 2:63. - BobKilcoyne (talk) 04:37, 10 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Yertis Pavlodar roster

Template:Yertis Pavlodar roster (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Single use template. Substitute and delete. –Aidan721 (talk) 17:18, 6 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Subst per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 17:12, 8 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Over-coverage

Template:Over-coverage (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Globalize (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Propose merging Template:Over-coverage with Template:Globalize.
These seem to say the same thing. Simplifying the choice of templates for such purposes makes life easier for editors and reduces the maintenance overhead. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 16:28, 6 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I would agree with this merge. – QueenofBithynia (talk) 21:21, 6 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Support Illuminati42 (talk) 01:32, 7 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Support Beyond My Ken (talk) 01:49, 7 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Support: One is about a specific region being over-represented and another is about a global worldview not being represented enough. They are the same thing. Roostery123 (talk) 04:15, 7 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Support - Agree with above. --WriterArtistDC (talk) 15:02, 7 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Support per Roostery123 as redundancy elimination. {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk 18:56, 7 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Question: what will the new template be called, and what should it say? - Manifestation (talk) 17:34, 9 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Supporting the merge. I think the merged template should prioritize the phrasing used in Globalize, as that wording is much more concise and comprehensible at a glace. I would also propose that the new template ought to have an additional optional parameter. Currently the Globalize template allows one to specify which perspective is being overrepresented, if applicable to the situation. I think it should also have the option to specify the region(s) that are underrepresented, and from which more perspectives are desired. silviaASH (User:BlankpopsiclesilviaASHs4) (inquire within) 20:30, 9 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Agree with all this too. QueenofBithynia (talk) 21:45, 9 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Support: As said above, they essentially say the same thing. -- Harobouri ^{T • C (he/him)}

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 **{{reply-to|BobKilcoyne}} are multiple verse ranges not supported in {{tl|bibleverse}} currently? Could they be included in its capabilities?—[[User:Ineffablebookkeeper|Ineffablebookkeeper]] ([[User talk:Ineffablebookkeeper|talk]]) (&#123;&#123;[[Template:ping|ping]]&#125;&#125; me!) 21:59, 7 October 2022 (UTC)
 **{{reply-to|Ineffablebookkeeper}} not from what I can tell, for example:
-***Both {{bibleverse||John|1:1-5,3:1-8|NKJV}} and {{bibleverse||John|1:1-5;3:1-8|NIV}} should refer to a few verses in John 1 and then a few in John 3, but actually open up the whole of John 1:1 to John 5:3.
+***Both {{bibleverse||John|1:1-5,3:1-8|NKJV}} and {{bibleverse||John|1:1-5;3:1-8|NIV}} using {{tl|bibleverse}} should refer to a few verses in John 1 and then a few in John 3, but actually open up the whole of John 1:1 to John 5:3.
-***{{bibleverse||John|1:1-5}}, {{bibleverse||John|3:1-8}} presents two passages but repeats the word "John"
+***{{bibleverse||John|1:1-5}}, {{bibleverse||John|3:1-8}} using {{tl|bibleverse}} presents two passages but repeats the word "John"
-***{{bibleverse||John|1:1-5}}, {{bibleverse-nb||John|3:1-8}} reads John 1:1–5, 3:1–8 - the desired result.
+***{{bibleverse||John|1:1-5}}, {{bibleverse-nb||John|3:1-8}} reads John 1:1–5, 3:1–8 - the desired result, using {{tl|bibleverse-nb}} for the second reference
 **I think it is also worth looking at retaining the functionality of {{tl|Bibleverse-lb}}, see for example {{Bibleverse-lb||Ezra|2:63|HE}}, which creates a link to the [[Book of Ezra]] as well as a link to the JPS version of Ezra 2:63. - [[User:BobKilcoyne|BobKilcoyne]] ([[User talk:BobKilcoyne|talk]]) 04:37, 10 October 2022 (UTC)