Talk:Dah Hanu

Proposal to redirect

This article ought be redirected to Aryan Valley which covers the same topic. Fwiw, we have standalone articles on Dah, Ladakh and Hanu, Ladakh. Thanks! TrangaBellam (talk) 09:24, 23 January 2023 (UTC)

• Support Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 10:06, 23 January 2023 (UTC)

  I forgot to ping the AfD folks. @Kautilya3, Elinruby, and Minaro123: — fyi. TrangaBellam (talk) 10:14, 23 January 2023 (UTC)

• Oppose the two entities overlap but are not the same. Also, no good reason has been enunciated for a redirect. If a redirect is called for anywhere, it would be from Aryan Valley to Dha Hanu, it seems to me. Elinruby (talk) 11:13, 23 January 2023 (UTC)

• Oppose : Aryan valley should be redirected to Dha hanu .Aryan valley should be put in Dha hanu region articles as a popular nickname or Alternative name. THE Aryan valley name has only started since 2010 .

Dha hanu region Dha hanu region is a name has been popularly using since the British India times to present . This is the actual name of these region. There are thousands of newspaper,Blogs, scholars paper, scientific paper , Articles , Book of anthropologiest, Scientific research etc are using Dha hanu region  : There are some reliable references which used Dha hanu region  :

British Raj time: https://archive.org/details/in.ernet.dli.2015.280511/page/n31

PRESENT Time : 1: https://ignca.gov.in/events/workshop-on-oral-tradition-of-dha-hanu/ 2:https://www.stephankloos.org%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2018%2F09%2FLegends-from-Dha-Hanu-Stephan-Kloos-LS28.pdf&usg=AOvVaw1w_DMKAwObg3dJaV91prAZ

3:https://archive.org/details/ethnologuelangua0000unse_g7e1/page/356/mode/1up?q=BROKPA Page number 357

4:https://brill.com/view/journals/ic/19/3/article-p201_2.xml

5:

6:https://books.google.co.in/books?id=-mU6pbkRC_wC&q=Dha+hanu+region&dq=Dha+hanu+region&hl=en&newbks=1&newbks_redir=0&source=gb_mobile_search&ovdme=1&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjjtpjBmt78AhUMTmwGHUBTAR0Q6wF6BAgHEAU#Dha%20hanu%20region 7:https://books.google.co.in/books?id=ufdEDQAAQBAJ&pg=PT56&dq=Dah+hanu&hl=en&newbks=1&newbks_redir=0&source=gb_mobile_search&ovdme=1&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjkl9mjpt78AhX-23MBHQ-aA1s4FBDrAXoECAcQBQ#v=onepage&q=Dah&f=false 8:https://link.springer.com/article/10.1186/s41938-019-0117-9

9:https://scholar.google.com/scholar?start=10&q=Dah+hanu&hl=en&as_sdt=0,5#d=gs_qabs&t=1674498075806&u=%23p%3DUqyBnJLKRTIJ

Political Map

The Latest political Map of UT Ladakh and UT Jammu and Kashmir provided by Indian Book deport has a mention of Dha hanu in their official map ,

However below is a one example: https://www.google.com/search?q=jammu+and+kashmir+and+Ladalh+political+map&tbm=isch&ved=2ahUKEwi2goWQm978AhU1pukKHeHOAH8Q2-cCegQIABAC&oq=jammu+and+kashmir+and+Ladalh+political+map&gs_lcp=ChJtb2JpbGUtZ3dzLXdpei1pbWcQAzIICAAQCBAeEA0yBQgAEKIEMgUIABCiBDIFCAAQogQ6BAgjECc6BQgAEIAEOgQIABADOgsIABCABBCxAxCDAToICAAQgAQQsQM6BwgAEA0QgAQ6BAghEApQ-gZYkjRgwjZoAXAAeACAAYMDiAHoLZIBCDAuOC4xNS4zmAEAoAEBwAEB&sclient=mobile-gws-wiz-img&ei=M8POY_acAbXMpgfhnYP4Bw&bih=668&biw=360&client=ms-android-oppo-rvo3&prmd=imsvn#imgrc=4fvnXJkCPZSjMM

Other sources: 1:https://books.google.co.in/books?id=JiFuAAAAMAAJ&q=Dha+hanu&dq=Dha+hanu&hl=en&newbks=1&newbks_redir=0&source=gb_mobile_search&ovdme=1&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiqkKXHpN78AhX_SGwGHR9rBGk4HhDrAXoECAIQBQ#Dha%20hanu 2:https://books.google.co.in/books?id=QWIjCgAAQBAJ&pg=PT192&dq=Dah+hanu&hl=en&newbks=1&newbks_redir=0&source=gb_mobile_search&ovdme=1&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjT7-yIpd78AhU6TGwGHdYcBVYQ6wF6BAgDEAU#v=onepage&q=Dah%20hanu&f=false

CONCLUSION: Dha hanu is a created in 2004 ,It is a genuine Articles , However Aryan valley is a nickname given to the Dha hanu region .

Dha hanu region should be treated a proper Region,There should be boundary , geographical location in the lead . And the history of Dha hanu region should be added about its region , There should be a geographical section which has a subsection of Medical ,modern and ancient history . Minaro123 (talk) 17:56, 23 January 2023 (UTC)

Minaro123, please click on each of the links you have provided and make sure that they point to something sensible. (For instance, your last link is to a Google search which brings up a hundred different maps. Which one are you talking about?)

Secondly, "Dha-Hanu region" has been used for a two-village region as well as a four-village region. Please explicate which one you mean, and then provide only links to that particular interpretation. (Your links above are again mixed up.) -- Kautilya3 (talk) 18:29, 23 January 2023 (UTC)

Here is a map : https://www.ibdmaphouse.com/products/latest-map-of-jammu-and-kashmir-u-t-and-ladakh-u-t-english You could clearly see that Dha hanu mentioned in the map. Dha hanu region ' is used for four village that Dha ,hanu ,Garkon and Darchik .Minaro123 (talk)

Source 7 is a self-published-autobiography. Source 6 is an illustrated travel-guide for young adults, aiming to visit India. That apart, there is nothing on how the Dah-Hanu area, supposedly mentioned in hundreds of source, is different from Aryan Valley that Minaro123 (and Elinruby) fought hard to keep and where I wish to redirect this article into. TrangaBellam (talk) 20:29, 23 January 2023 (UTC)

Several of these sources refer to "Dah Hanu valley," not "Dah Hanu region.". Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 20:46, 23 January 2023 (UTC)

I noted that; quite obvious that Minaro123 Googled "Dah Hanu" and pasted whatever came up at the screen :-) TrangaBellam (talk) 20:48, 23 January 2023 (UTC)

Dear Joshua Jonathan:: After i have read many books and sources I got to know that , Dha hanu region/Valley/district/area /country refers to the same region which included dha, hanu ,Garkon and Darchik . Dha hanu valley also includes dha ,hanu ,Garkon and Darchik ,here is the reference I have also noted that Dha hanu is used for the whole region by mostly the Reliable sources . However Dha hanu is used for twin village that is Dha and hanu but there is not much Reliable source for that ,it was mostly used by advertising media. Its my opinion based on my studies ,i welcome constructive objection and critisim and it would be more helpful if you could talk with reference. Thank you Minaro123 (talk) 22:43, 23 January 2023 (UTC)

Conclusion from my point of view':': The reason I am supporting for reverting the Aryan valley into Dha hanu region is only because Aryan valley doesn't have the geographical section which includes as flaura and fauna,climate of the region . And the history of Brokpa chief and their ancient history such as oral history of Brokpa, Medival history such as The Fortfied ,Raids in the region . Modern history which includes The unjustified division of Aryan valley between leh and kargil district. And the demands of these people which demand a single subdivision of these whole region . If all of these sections are genuine included in the Aryan valley then i would be okay with not reverting aryan valley to Dha hanu . Minaro123 (talk) 23:37, 23 January 2023 (UTC)