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Sujatha baliga → Sujatha Baliga – Per standard English grammar and following sources, e.g. NY Times 1 & 2, UPI. I don't think that the use of the lowercase form, while present in some sources, meets the standard at Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Capital letters#Personal names of "regular and established use in reliable independent sources". Also, it's quite confusing to present a proper noun in lowercase, and would argue against this guideline section under the general, broader MoS guideline to "write articles using straightforward, succinct, easily understood language" (second paragraph of main MoS page). Tol (talk | contribs) @ 03:09, 11 April 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. ModernDayTrilobite (talk • contribs) 15:08, 19 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose – many sources (all that I could read due to paywalls) do in fact use the lowercase form, which I assume the subject prefers. Compare maia arson crimew. -- Maddy from Celeste (WAVEDASH) 20:53, 18 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Weak support: The NYT (two citations) and UPI articles use conventional uppercasing. The KPIX/CBS article uses conventional formatting in the image caption and all-lowercasing in the article body. So out of six cited sources, 3 of them use conventional uppercasing and only two of them consistently use all-lowercasing. One of the all-lowercase sources (The Imprint a.k.a. The Chronicle of Social Change) may be less reliable than the others. When sources are mixed, Wikipedia generally uses conventional styling. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 17:20, 19 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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 [[:Sujatha baliga]] → {{no redirect|Sujatha Baliga}} – Per standard English grammar and following sources, e.g. NY Times [https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/25/arts/macarthur-genius-grant-winners-list.html 1] & [https://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/06/magazine/can-forgiveness-play-a-role-in-criminal-justice.html 2], [https://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2019/09/25/MacArthur-Foundation-hands-out-26-genius-grants/2071569433180/ UPI]. I don't think that the use of the lowercase form, while present in some sources, meets the standard at [[Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Capital letters#Personal names]] of "regular and established use in reliable independent sources". Also, it's quite confusing to present a proper noun in lowercase, and would argue against this guideline section under the general, broader MoS guideline to "write articles using straightforward, succinct, easily understood language" (second paragraph of main [[Wikipedia:Manual of Style|MoS]] page). [[User:Tol|<span style="color:#f542d7">Tol</span>]] ([[User talk:Tol|talk]] &#124; [[Special:Contribs/Tol|contribs]]) @ 03:09, 11 April 2023 (UTC) <small>—&nbsp;'''''Relisting.'''''&nbsp;[[User:ModernDayTrilobite|ModernDayTrilobite]] ([[User talk:ModernDayTrilobite|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/ModernDayTrilobite|contribs]]) 15:08, 19 April 2023 (UTC)</small>
 :'''Oppose''' &ndash; many sources (all that I could read due to paywalls) do in fact use the lowercase form, which I assume the subject prefers. Compare [[maia arson crimew]]. <b style="font-family:Monospace">-- [[User:Maddy from Celeste|Maddy from Celeste]] ([[User talk:Maddy from Celeste|WAVEDASH]])</b> 20:53, 18 April 2023 (UTC)
-:'''Weak support''': The NYT (two citations) and UPI articles use conventional uppercasing. The KPIX article uses conventional formatting in the image caption and all-lowercasing in the article body. So out of six cited sources, 3 of them use conventional uppercasing and only two of them consistently use all-lowercasing. One of the all-lowercase sources (''The Imprint'' a.k.a. ''The Chronicle of Social Change'') may be less reliable than the others. When sources are mixed, Wikipedia generally uses conventional styling. —⁠ ⁠[[User:BarrelProof|BarrelProof]] ([[User talk:BarrelProof|talk]]) 17:20, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
+:'''Weak support''': The NYT (two citations) and UPI articles use conventional uppercasing. The KPIX/CBS article uses conventional formatting in the image caption and all-lowercasing in the article body. So out of six cited sources, 3 of them use conventional uppercasing and only two of them consistently use all-lowercasing. One of the all-lowercase sources (''The Imprint'' a.k.a. ''The Chronicle of Social Change'') may be less reliable than the others. When sources are mixed, Wikipedia generally uses conventional styling. —⁠ ⁠[[User:BarrelProof|BarrelProof]] ([[User talk:BarrelProof|talk]]) 17:20, 19 April 2023 (UTC)