Talk:List of political parties in Australia

What is a federal division?

In the state party section there is a box with a tick or cross which is labeled has federal division. What does that mean ? Bonesy.200 (talk) 10:25, 23 July 2022 (UTC)

Expanded does it mean the party can run in federal elections? Or just it just mean the party is registered federal and what does it mean if the party is de-registered federally Bonesy.200 (talk) 11:50, 25 July 2022 (UTC)

It appears to mean that the party is registered to run in federal elections. I agree that it is odd wording for that. The Drover's Wife (talk) 09:26, 26 July 2022 (UTC)

Should we change the wording to "Also registered for federal elections?"?

It's a bit wordy though.

TBH I wouldn't mind just removing that column completely. We already have the information about which parties are registered federally in it's own section. Micmicm (talk) 14:54, 10 August 2022 (UTC)

Fair but i do think it helps people to better understand state party's and how there registered Bonesy.200 (talk) 02:51, 12 August 2022 (UTC)

Agreed. This page used to have a different table structure for every single state, and one template was picked because it was the best way of showing all the immediately relevant info (Party colour, name, leader, ideology). The federal division section was added solely because the template included it. The section isn't really necessary when the Commonwealth registered parties are listed on the same page. Catiline52 (talk) 04:31, 12 August 2022 (UTC)

Changing names to be in line with officially registered names and abbreviations

I think we should be using the officially registered names and abbreviations for the parties, since this is what appears on ballots.

For example I think the Federal parliamentary parties table should look like this:

Party		Abbreviated name	Members of the federal Parliament as of July 2022		Party leader	Ideology
			House	Senate
	Australian Labor Party (ALP)	A.L.P	77 / 151	26 / 76	Anthony Albanese	Social democracy Social liberalism
	Liberal Party of Australia	Liberal	48 / 151	26 / 76	Peter Dutton	Liberal conservatism Economic liberalism
	National Party of Australia	The Nationals	15 / 151	6 / 76	David Littleproud	Conservatism Agrarianism
	Australian Greens	The Greens	4 / 151	12 / 76	Adam Bandt	Green politics Progressivism
	Pauline Hanson's One Nation	One Nation	0 / 151	2 / 76	Pauline Hanson	Right-wing populism Hansonism
	Jacqui Lambie Network	JLN	0 / 151	2 / 76	Jacqui Lambie	Tasmanian regionalism Populism
	Centre Alliance	Centre Alliance	1 / 151	0 / 76	No leader	Social liberalism Populism
	Katter's Australian Party (KAP)	KAP	1 / 151	0 / 76	Robbie Katter	Conservatism Developmentalism
	United Australia Party	UAP	0 / 151	1 / 76	Ralph Babet	Nationalism Right-wing populism

I've also removed leaders seats as it doesn't help understand anything about the parties.

Thoughts? Micmicm (talk) 08:07, 12 August 2022 (UTC)

I think leaders seats helps the reader understand more about party leadership as a whole Bonesy.200 (talk) 10:24, 12 August 2022 (UTC)

How about this then?

Party		Abbreviated name	Members of the federal Parliament as of July 2022		Party leader	Leaders Seat	Ideology
			House	Senate
	Australian Labor Party (ALP)	A.L.P	77 / 151	26 / 76	Anthony Albanese	Division of Grayndler	Social democracySocial liberalism
	Liberal Party of Australia	Liberal	48 / 151	26 / 76	Peter Dutton	Division of Dickson	Liberal conservatismEconomic liberalism
	National Party of Australia	The Nationals	15 / 151	6 / 76	David Littleproud	Division of Maranoa	ConservatismAgrarianism
	Australian Greens	The Greens	4 / 151	12 / 76	Adam Bandt	Division of Melbourne	Green politicsProgressivism
	Pauline Hanson's One Nation	One Nation	0 / 151	2 / 76	Pauline Hanson	Senator for Queensland	Right-wing populismHansonism
	Jacqui Lambie Network	JLN	0 / 151	2 / 76	Jacqui Lambie	Senator for Tasmainia	Tasmanian regionalismPopulism
	Centre Alliance	Centre Alliance	1 / 151	0 / 76	No leader		Social liberalismPopulism
	Katter's Australian Party (KAP)	KAP	1 / 151	0 / 76	Robbie Katter	Queensland electoral district of Traeger	ConservatismDevelopmentalism
	United Australia Party	UAP	0 / 151	1 / 76	Ralph Babet	Senator for Victoria	NationalismRight-wing populism

Micmicm (talk) 05:10, 13 August 2022 (UTC)

Who is an authority on what political parties exist?

I know I've recently been the one to edit this page more in line with the the federal and state/territory electoral commissions but the news on the deregistration of the United Australia Party with the Australian Electoral Commission (AEC) has made me wonder if the electoral commissions should be considered to hold the comprehensive list of parities. Ralph Babet has stated that he remains a member of the party and the Australian parliament house (APH) website agrees.

Further complicating the issue is that both the AEC and APH list separately the Country Liberal Party and the AEC lists the Liberal National Party of Queensland as a sub-party of the Liberals, while the APH lists them as a separate party.

I think we have consensus that the Coalition consists of the two parliamentary parties and not of the four 'electoral' parties, but how should we go about making this a consistent decision?

My proposal:

I think we should follow the following guidelines on which parties to include and how to list them:

1. Parties which have representation (or which are part of a larger party with representation, e.g. the ACT Greens in the federal parliament) should be included in the parliamentary parties section, and should be grouped by their parliamentary parties.(e.g. 2 coalition parties not 4)
2. Parties which have representation (or which are part of a larger party with representation) should be listed even if they are not registered with the appropriate electoral commission.
3. Parties without representation (and which aren't part of a larger party with representation), should be included if they are registered with the appropriate electoral commission.
4. Parties should be given a name which is recognisable, commonly used and not unnecessarily verbose (e.g. 'Australian Labor Party' rather than 'Australian Labor Party (ALP)' and FUSION rather than FUSION: Science, Pirate, Secular, Climate Emergency)
5. Abbreviated names should be removed as they don't really add much and are unnecessary if we give each party commonly used names.
6. Party leaders should be listed even if they sit in different parliaments to the relevant section (e.g. Robbie Katter for Katter's Australian Party)

As a consequence of these guidelines I would remove David Pocock from the list of parties, since it (the party) has representation and David Pocock (the person) doesn't belong to any parliamentary party (he is listed as an independent by APH), and add the United Australia Party, since it has representation even though it is not registered with the AEC.

I'd appreciate your feedback on this proposal.

Micmicm (talk) 07:02, 13 September 2022 (UTC)

Thoughts on including a summary table like this?

Parties with representation in federal parliament or any state or territory parliament:

Party		Federal			NSW		Vic		Qld	WA		SA		Tas		ACT	NT
		HoR	Senate		LA	LC	LA	LC	LA	LA	LC	HoA	LC	HoA	LC	LA	LA
	Australian Labor Party	77 / 151	26 / 76		37 / 93	14 / 42	55 / 88	17 / 40	52 / 93	53 / 59	22 / 36	27 / 47	9 / 22	9 / 25	4 / 15	10 / 25	14 / 25
The Coalition
	Liberal Party	48 / 151	26 / 76		33 / 93	11 / 42	21 / 88	9 / 40	34 / 93	2 / 59	7 / 36	16 / 47	8 / 22	13 / 25	4 / 15	9 / 25	8 / 25
	National Party	10 / 151	6 / 76		12 / 93	6 / 42	6 / 88	1 / 40		4 / 59	3 / 36	0 / 47	0 / 22
	Australian Greens	4 / 151	12 / 76		3 / 93	3 / 42	3 / 88	1 / 40	2 / 93	0 / 59	1 / 36	0 / 47	2 / 22	2 / 25	0 / 15	6 / 25	0 / 25
	One Nation	0 / 151	2 / 76		0 / 93	2 / 42	0 / 88	0 / 40	1 / 93	0 / 59	0 / 36	0 / 47	1 / 22
	Jacqui Lambie Network	0 / 151	2 / 76											0 / 25	0 / 15
	Centre Alliance/SA-Best	1 / 151	0 / 76									0 / 47	2 / 22
	Katter's Australian Party	1 / 151	0 / 76						3 / 93
	United Australia Party	0 / 151	1 / 76				0 / 88	0 / 40
	Shooters, Fishers and Farmers Party	0 / 151	0 / 76		2 / 93	2 / 42	0 / 88	1 / 40	0 / 93	0 / 59	0 / 36			0 / 25	0 / 15	0 / 25	0 / 25
	Animal Justice Party	0 / 151	0 / 76		0 / 93	2 / 42	0 / 88	1 / 40	0 / 93	0 / 59	0 / 36	0 / 47	0 / 22	0 / 25	0 / 15	0 / 25	0 / 25
	Derryn Hinch's Justice Party	0 / 151	0 / 76				0 / 88	2 / 40
	Liberal Democratic Party				0 / 93	0 / 42	0 / 88	2 / 40		0 / 59	0 / 36	0 / 47	0 / 22			0 / 25
	Reason Party	0 / 151	0 / 76		0 / 93	0 / 42	0 / 88	1 / 40
	Sustainable Australia Party	0 / 151	0 / 76		0 / 93	0 / 42	0 / 88	1 / 40		0 / 59	0 / 36	0 / 47	0 / 22			0 / 25
	Transport Matters Party						0 / 88	1 / 40
	Democratic Labour Party						0 / 88	1 / 40
	Legalise Cannabis	0 / 151	0 / 76		0 / 93	0 / 42	0 / 88	0 / 40	0 / 93	0 / 59	2 / 36	0 / 47	0 / 22
	Daylight Saving Party									0 / 59	1 / 36

Micmicm (talk) 04:00, 9 November 2022 (UTC)

All that information is already on the page, this table is relatively hard to read and would just duplicate the information. If people want to learn the different states a party has seats in (rather than the parties within a state), it's visible on the party's page. Catiline52 (talk) 23:45, 11 November 2022 (UTC)

UAP Parliamentary Leader = Leader?

Who is leader of UAP?

Ralph Babet's parliamentary profile lists him as the "Parliamentary Leader of the United Australia Party"

Are there any good sources which state Craig Kelly is still the leader?

This article by the Guardian calls Craig Kelly the "former party leader".

In the absence of other sources, I would prefer we list Ralph Babet as the leader of UAP.

@Auspol4 just @ing you since you recently edited the UAP leader field. Micmicm (talk) 13:46, 21 January 2023 (UTC)

We should use the parliamentary leaders for these infoboxes. Albanese is the leader of the parliamentary Labor Party, not the Labor Party itself, which is headed by people like Wayne Swan. Craig Kelly was given party leadership from Clive, but under Westminster traditions that doesn't make him parliamentary leader.Catiline52 (talk) 22:07, 21 January 2023 (UTC)

Yeah i agree that was a mistake to change it to Kelly, i think Babet should stay, perhaps party leader should be changed to parliamentary leader? Auspol4 (talk) 01:30, 22 January 2023 (UTC)

Proposing to put NSW Local government registered party on this wiki page

The party's on the local elections list are technically still apart of the NSW electoral commissions register and are treated as political party's the only difference being is they don't pay the fee to run in the state election, The local party register also includes some minor party's who either currently have or did have a state or federal division such as the Australia first party, Australian federation party, science party and the arts party. thought it would be respectful to get others opinions before just adding in the table. Bonesy.200 (talk) 10:44, 4 March 2023 (UTC)

I think that's a great idea, although it should probably be a separate section or at least a separate table to the non-parliamentary parties. Micmicm (talk) 13:40, 4 March 2023 (UTC)

Why I'm reverting changes made on the 25-27th of April 2023

Hi @MarioBayo Thanks for your effort to improve this article!

I have a few critiques of the changes you made on the 25th of April and have decided to roll them back. My reasons are a bit long to include in the edit notes so I'm listing them here, grouped by section.

Membership requirement: While it is useful information to list the respective electoral commissions in this article, including them in this section doesn't make much sense. The membership requirements for party registration is set by the parliament of each jurisdiction, the electoral commissions merely maintain the lists.

A better place to mention the electoral commissions is in the respective sections. For example, just before the list of parties in NSW there is the line: "As of the New South Wales Electoral Commission:" (This probably could do with being linked to the NSWEC Wikipedia article if anyone wants to update this)

Federal Parties: 1. Acronyms: The acronyms used here are not official (to the the best of my knowledge), and in fact I'm fairly sure that they are not even standardised between different media groups. e.g. ABC and 9 News might use different acronyms for the same party. As such I don't think they belong on this page. 2. Logos: While I'm not opposed to including the party logos, I don't think they add much to the readability of the table given how small they are. 3. (Political) Position: I think we decided ages ago that including political positions for parties caused more trouble then it was worth. The ideology or objective of a party is usually debated far more intelligently (although that doesn't say much) and provides far more useful information for understanding what a party is about. 4. Political alliance: Domestically the only "alliance" which exists is the Coalition, so it doesn't make sense to add a whole column just for this. International alliances aren't particularly relevant to how Australians talk about our political parties. This information is on the party pages if people are interested in it.

Apologies if there is stuff you've added that I haven't mentioned above, which I've now accidentally removed. Micmicm (talk) 13:57, 27 April 2023 (UTC)