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Semi-protected edit request on 5 October 2018

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Add to the list of "Boyle's work published online" a link to the "Some Considerations touching the usefulnesses of experimental...," which was recently published on Internet Archive by the University of Notre Dame Hesburgh Libraries. Link: https://archive.org/details/nd11649549/page/n11 Notredamedigitalcollections (talk) 13:11, 5 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Not done for now: The editor needs to use their own account to propose this change and not one which appears to be affiliated with the university. Please see WP:CHU for more information. Spintendo 16:08, 7 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

"Chevalier"

Is this supposed to indicate that Boyle was a Cavalier (i.e. as opposed to a Roundhead), an adherent of Charles I? From the context it appears so. I couldn't find any other references to this in relation to Boyle. Since, as I say, it does appear to relate to the Cavaliers, why is it given in the French form here? No source is cited so checking isn't possible either. To be honest, that entire paragraph is written slightly oddly. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.144.78.132 (talk) 00:01, 2 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your attention. Despite its presence unmodified in the article for 14 years, this passage is of extremely dubious provenance, added by a disreputable IP editor, and so I have removed it for lack of a reliable secondary source, with no prejudice to re-adding if such a source is turned up. Elizium23 (talk) 00:10, 2 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Robert Hooke should be added as one of those influenced by Boyle. TheLittleTramp (talk) 15:32, 8 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Darth Flappy ^«Talk» 15:37, 8 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Add the following source to the list of Further Reading:

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Banchetti-Robino, Marina Paola, The Chemical Philosophy of Robert Boyle: Mechanicism, Chymical Atoms, and Emergence, Oxford: Oxford University Press, 2020. ISBN 978-0-197-50250-1 MPBanchetti (talk) 19:50, 23 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: We shouldn't link a book for further reading if it hasn't yet been published; and even if it is from OUP, I'd like to wait for some form of review about this book to ascertain how useful it is. RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 21:53, 23 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The book by Banchetti-Robino has now been published (by OUP in 2020) and widely reviewed by top scholars for top journals in the field (for example, by Alan Chalmers for 'Foundations of Chemistry', by L.S. Keating for the 'Journal of the History of Philosophy', by Antonio Clericuzio for 'Ambix', by William Eaton for 'History of Philosophy of Science', and Ashley Inglehart for 'Isis'). It is now regarded as the definitive study of Robert Boyle's chemical philosophy and 'Studies for the History and Philosophy of Science' is currently devoting a book forum to this book. MPBanchetti (talk) 20:10, 13 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Could you provide links to those reviews? Actualcpscm (talk) 10:16, 8 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Anglo-Irish

When I was in college my English chemistry professor made racist remarks regarding the American textbook calling Robert Boyle Irish.

I thought is just a funny joe at the time, but then it really sunk in.

The policy of Wikipedia is that if Robert Boyle was born in Ireland, then that makes him Irish. You guys are going against your own policy, what is going on?

I do not know what in tarnation Anglo-Irish is other than a racist slur. K00la1dx (talk) 10:15, 18 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

First, Anglo-Irish is not a slur - no more so than Scots-Irish -, and is a fitting description of someone like Robert Boyle who was born to the Colonial English Protestant Ascendancy - his father was English, his mothers parents were both English. Boyle was an English subject and would have doubtless considered himself English. And there is no set-in-stone Wikipedia policy on this - if we went by nationality, it would be English, as he was an English subject. He only happened to of been born in Ireland because his father had business and political interests there.--SinoDevonian (talk) 22:27, 18 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Anglo-Irish is a slur. That is why there are no demonym for people of Northern Ireland. Both are insulting northern Irish or Irish English. (as well as Anglo-Irish) At the time Northern Ireland was not separated from the rest of Ireland. That makes Robert Boyle Irish. Are you saying that all people of Irish decent during that time were English?

This is your policy. This the policy of Wikipedia. Take Leibnitz. We all would like to say he was not German. He was born on a part of Germany that was close Poland. The official Wikipedia came out and said he was German as he was born in Germany. K00la1dx (talk) 08:50, 19 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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 :First, Anglo-Irish is ''not'' a slur - no more so than Scots-Irish -, and is a fitting description of someone like Robert Boyle who was born to the Colonial English Protestant Ascendancy - his father was English, his mothers parents were both English. Boyle was an English subject and would have doubtless considered himself English. And there is no set-in-stone Wikipedia policy on this - if we went by nationality, it would be English, as he was an English subject. He only happened to of been born in Ireland because his father had business and political interests there.--[[User:Trans-Neptunian object|SinoDevonian]] ([[User talk:Trans-Neptunian object|talk]]) 22:27, 18 October 2023 (UTC)
+::Anglo-Irish is a slur. That is why there are no demonym for people of Northern Ireland. Both are insulting northern Irish or Irish English. (as well as Anglo-Irish) At the time Northern Ireland was not separated from the rest of Ireland. That makes Robert Boyle Irish. Are you saying that all people of Irish decent during that time were English?
+::This is your policy. This the policy of Wikipedia. Take Leibnitz. We all would like to say he was not German. He was born on a part of Germany that was close Poland. The official Wikipedia came out and said he was German as he was born in Germany.  [[User:K00la1dx|K00la1dx]] ([[User talk:K00la1dx|talk]]) 08:50, 19 October 2023 (UTC)