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== New SubGenere of Full expression interactive movie by example of [[Hellblade: Senua's Sacrifice|HellBlade]]== |
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I created a new subgroup, Full Expression Interactive Movie, because the description in Interactive Movie does not fit today's productions of this genre. Either it's an old description or it's not Interactive Movie at all and the name needs to be changed to something else. I have never heard of a DVD playing a key role in the production of Interactive Movie games, or reproducing scenes from a DVD. |
I created a new subgroup, Full Expression Interactive Movie, because the description in Interactive Movie does not fit today's productions of this genre. Either it's an old description or it's not Interactive Movie at all and the name needs to be changed to something else. I have never heard of a DVD playing a key role in the production of Interactive Movie games, or reproducing scenes from a DVD. |
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As for the name I gave, it is crucial, because in the example of HellBlade, we are definitely dealing with a new genre of Adventure games. It is like a movie and focuses mainly on the character and their emotions, and the plot is an addition to this and is therefore linear. Many game critics did not understand the message of this game and did not realize that it was a new adventure genre with an emphasis on facial expressions. That's why I emphasize once again that the game is linear, because it's like a movie, only we can control the character without changing the plot or even influencing it too much. Perhaps in the future these games will develop towards multi-linearity, which is natural due to the desire for the greatest possible interactivity and reproduction of realism. Even for sure. Now we need to classify these games. I think we need to create at least two new genres: linear Interactive movie and multi-linear Interactive movie. I named one as Full expression interactive movie because of the main emphasis on facial expressions. Link to me edit: [[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Adventure_game&oldid=1184058271#Full_expression_interactive_movie]]--[[User:Darek555|Darek555]] ([[User talk:Darek555|talk]]) 03:02, 8 November 2023 (UTC) |
As for the name I gave, it is crucial, because in the example of HellBlade, we are definitely dealing with a new genre of Adventure games. It is like a movie and focuses mainly on the character and their emotions, and the plot is an addition to this and is therefore linear. Many game critics did not understand the message of this game and did not realize that it was a new adventure genre with an emphasis on facial expressions. That's why I emphasize once again that the game is linear, because it's like a movie, only we can control the character without changing the plot or even influencing it too much. Perhaps in the future these games will develop towards multi-linearity, which is natural due to the desire for the greatest possible interactivity and reproduction of realism. Even for sure. Now we need to classify these games. I think we need to create at least two new genres: linear Interactive movie and multi-linear Interactive movie. I named one as Full expression interactive movie because of the main emphasis on facial expressions. Link to me edit: [[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Adventure_game&oldid=1184058271#Full_expression_interactive_movie]]--[[User:Darek555|Darek555]] ([[User talk:Darek555|talk]]) 03:02, 8 November 2023 (UTC) |
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New SubGenere of Full expression interactive movie by example of HellBlade
I created a new subgroup, Full Expression Interactive Movie, because the description in Interactive Movie does not fit today's productions of this genre. Either it's an old description or it's not Interactive Movie at all and the name needs to be changed to something else. I have never heard of a DVD playing a key role in the production of Interactive Movie games, or reproducing scenes from a DVD. As for the name I gave, it is crucial, because in the example of HellBlade, we are definitely dealing with a new genre of Adventure games. It is like a movie and focuses mainly on the character and their emotions, and the plot is an addition to this and is therefore linear. Many game critics did not understand the message of this game and did not realize that it was a new adventure genre with an emphasis on facial expressions. That's why I emphasize once again that the game is linear, because it's like a movie, only we can control the character without changing the plot or even influencing it too much. Perhaps in the future these games will develop towards multi-linearity, which is natural due to the desire for the greatest possible interactivity and reproduction of realism. Even for sure. Now we need to classify these games. I think we need to create at least two new genres: linear Interactive movie and multi-linear Interactive movie. I named one as Full expression interactive movie because of the main emphasis on facial expressions. Link to me edit: [[1]]--Darek555 (talk) 03:02, 8 November 2023 (UTC)
Fixing Citations
Need assistance on fixing the citations for numbers 26 and 28. I tried fixing some of the page numbers but I am unsure of how to go about changing them myself. I went into the book being referenced and found contrary information. For citation number 26, the changes should remain, but the page numbers should be 321, where it states, from the book, "Adventure games frequently include lateral thinking puzzles." - Which is contrary to the previously stated reference that was there before the edit, saying that Adventure games commonly used "Logic puzzles". On logic puzzles, the book being references says "Adventure games often present logic puzzles as combination locks or other machinery that the player must learn to manipulate because those devices make sense in the fantasy world in which the game exists" - Which is intrinsically different, and is not on pages 444-445, but page 310. If I could simply have some assistance straightening this out I would be very appreciative.Belregard (talk) 02:27, 23 January 2023 (UTC)
- I fixed the citation errors for 26 and 28, and changed the page number for 26 from 320 to 321 (I couldn't find a source that was written by just Adams, but he co-authored the book that is frequently used as a reference, so I changed it to that). I removed Jenkins443-444 and Adams444–445 as they were not used in the article, but I assume you know their appropriate place and how to change the page numbers where that is needed. (Should this not be the case I would be happy to help with that!)
- I would also like to use the {{sfn}} format for this article, if you're okay with that. It functions the same as the citation format that's currently used but doesn't need to be defined separately. To get an idea how it functions/what it looks like: Panic of 1819. ReneeWrites (talk) 13:49, 23 January 2023 (UTC)
- Thank you. "but I assume you know their appropriate place and how to change the page numbers where that is needed" - I don't know why you would assume that, given my advertisement, but I'm still getting used to the various formalities of wikipedia editing and would appreciate any tips or suggestions.Belregard (talk) 15:16, 23 January 2023 (UTC)
- Apologies. I added the extra bit of info and the missing footnote to the page.
- I changed the cite templates for the citations that refer to specific pages. {{sfn}} looks for a {{cite}} where the parameters for an author's last name and year of publication are filled in, and will automatically fetch it if it can find it or give an error if it can't. To change a page number now all you need to do is change the number(s) after p= (if it's one page) or pp= (if it's multiple).
- For someone who is new to Wikipedia you're doing a remarkable job. If you ever have questions or want feedback from other editors who work on video game articles in particular, WikiProject Video games is one of the larger/more active Wikiprojects. ReneeWrites (talk) 19:02, 23 January 2023 (UTC)
- Thank you. "but I assume you know their appropriate place and how to change the page numbers where that is needed" - I don't know why you would assume that, given my advertisement, but I'm still getting used to the various formalities of wikipedia editing and would appreciate any tips or suggestions.Belregard (talk) 15:16, 23 January 2023 (UTC)
Western Japanese structure
Splitting the history into Japanese and Western sections is undue and feels discriminatory. They should be merged into one restructured History section.
Also the genre differentiation used for game articles between text and graphical adventure games is about as useful silent and non-silent movies. IgelRM (talk) 08:12, 16 March 2023 (UTC)
- Also the difference between narrative adventure game, "walking simulators" and interactive movie seems to overlap or not clearly defined. IgelRM (talk) 14:43, 4 November 2023 (UTC)
"Imitation City" listed at Redirects for discussion
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"First person adventure" listed at Redirects for discussion
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Requested move 6 November 2023
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Adventure game → Adventure video game – The currnet article is about video games. But there are also adventure board game. Under adventure game, we can have a disambig for now, although ideally there should be a broader article about adventure games, which covers both video and board games. (Interestingly, based on my reading of the history sections of these articles, the board and video games developed nearly at the same time, with the first adventure board game being Dungeon! of 1975, and the first adventure video game, Colossal Cave Adventure of 1976 or lesser known Wander (1974 video game). Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 07:45, 6 November 2023 (UTC)
- Oppose WP:PRIMARYTOPICs commonly conflict with other things, yet are still primary. For example Apple is not disambiguated as Apple (fruit) despite sharing the name of the software company. The idea of an adventure video game is the primary topic for this term, while adventure board games are not. The pageview disparity is tremendous, and cannot solely be explained by people going to the wrong place. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 09:12, 6 November 2023 (UTC)
- Oppose per @Zxcvbnm. Killuminator (talk) 09:31, 6 November 2023 (UTC)
- Oppose per @Zxcvbnm. Kind regards, Grueslayer 12:40, 7 November 2023 (UTC)
- Oppose per PRIMARYTOPIC. Yes, there exists board games, but the amount of coverage of those compared to video games is trivial, that "adventure game" nearly always exclusively refers to video game versions. We are providing the hat note for the board game versions. --Masem (t) 13:04, 7 November 2023 (UTC)