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This revert was not appropriate. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Shohei_Ohtani&diff=prev&oldid=1181439577 ("Please preview your changes, use substantial edit summaries, and consider that all these cites aren't necessary in light of the Baseball-Reference link")

First, it states a misunderstanding - that some RS-supported textual additions are "necessary," and that some are not "necessary." Clearly incorrect. Not even the article itself is necessary. Certainly, not a reason for a revert of RS-supported text.

Second, it points to information in another part of the section. But that text does not included RS-supported information that the reverted deleted. Plus, it contains incorrect information - as to where on the leaderboard the batter was in home runs.

Oddly, the reverted asked that I preview my changes. But I did. Why would they suggest otherwise. They also asked that I use "substantial edit summaries." But the edit summaries that I used were perfectly fair for the course for additions such as these, supported by RSs.

I urge that the reverter be reverted. 2603:7000:2101:AA00:F0D8:24E5:DD2C:1D8E (talk) 18:06, 23 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Comments? 2603:7000:2101:AA00:ACC5:90EF:2806:5A6A (talk) 21:29, 27 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding Ohtani's choice of team

Jon Morosi

@Jon_Morosi

On Shohei Ohtani, remember that the physical exam will be extensive for a record-setting contract.
Even if Ohtani makes his *choice* in the next 24 hours -- as expected -- the *agreement* may not be finalized for several days due to the medical review process.

December 8, 2023^[1]

The Internet is abuzz with rumor that Ohtani could pick his next team as early as today. In light of that, here is some wisdom from Jon Morosi on the process. We will not update this page to reflect Ohtani's new team unless we are 100% sure that the deal is 100% completed. Please read this essay on how we handle sports transactions for more information.

Thank you all for your understanding and enjoy your weekend. – Muboshgu (talk) 16:42, 8 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Jon Morosi

@Jon_Morosi

Today, I posted reporting that included inaccurate information that Shohei Ohtani was traveling to Toronto. I regret the mistake and apologize to baseball fans everywhere. I am deeply sorry for letting you down.

December 8, 2023^[1]

Ohtani on a private jet to Toronto, huh? "Hate to Say I Told You So", alright. – Muboshgu (talk) 16:16, 9 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Shohei signed with Dodgers 2600:1012:B171:B20E:1C16:4B21:A8E1:8FCD (talk) 20:19, 9 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Not done See that section above with the Jon Morosi tweets? Remember Ohtani's flight to Toronto yesterday? Do we learn? – Muboshgu (talk) 20:22, 9 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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I wanna change his team to the Blue Jays because it was reported that he signed with the aforementioned team.--ChessGuy66 (talk) 20:36, 9 December 2023 (UTC) ChessGuy66 (talk) 20:36, 9 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Not done. Are you serious? You are a day behind in your news. Spanneraol (talk) 20:37, 9 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Oops, I meant the dodgers now.--ChessGuy66 (talk) 20:38, 9 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, I thought he signed with the Blue Jays. ChessGuy66 (talk) 20:39, 9 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I just heard he signed with the dodgers. ChessGuy66 (talk) 20:39, 9 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

You heard wrong. What you actually heard was that he "decided to choose" the Dodgers. It's not finalized yet. – Muboshgu (talk) 20:40, 9 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

LOL. We'll make a change to the team parameters when there's a signed contract in hand. Not a "decision to choose" the Dodgers. – Muboshgu (talk) 20:39, 9 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

One more thought on Ohtani's next contract

Does anyone else remember when Carlos Correa showed up in San Francisco for an introductory press conference merely for the Giants to back out of the deal? I do. – Muboshgu (talk) 20:47, 9 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Yep.. and considering the Angels were never all that forthcoming on Ohtani's most recent surgery... I think his physical could be very important. Spanneraol (talk) 20:51, 9 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

If he does wind up with the Dodgers though, I'm gonna take a pass through this article.. he doesn't need 5-6 paragraphs for each season. Spanneraol (talk) 20:53, 9 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Spanneraol more like 7-10 paragraphs per season. Agree that the article can be trimmed down. Natg 19 (talk) 21:20, 9 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

TSN now reporting that Ohtani has signed a 10-year, $700 million contract, with the Dodgers. GoodDay (talk) 20:54, 9 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Very well, I'll update the team parameters. Spanneraol (talk) 20:55, 9 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Muboshgu: are you sure you should be the administrator 'protecting' the page, as you've been involved in the content dispute? GoodDay (talk) 21:25, 9 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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^ ^a ^b Jon Morosi [@Jon_Morosi] (December 8, 2023). "On Shohei Ohtani, remember that the physical exam will be extensive for a record-setting contract. Even if Ohtani makes his *choice* in the next 24 hours -- as expected -- the *agreement* may not be finalized for several days due to the medical review process" (Tweet) – via Twitter. Cite error: The named reference "TweetJon_Morosi" was defined multiple times with different content (see the help page).

[THREAD] Wikipedia is a disaster for reporting sports news.

Are we SERIOUSLY going to wait for confirmation from the team itself to update the page? I obviously don't want to jump the gun but literally Shohei himself and every other media source has already announced it as official. If a rare "Carlos Correa situation" were to happen again, we can always revert the page. On the 99% chance that it does stay official, this is just another example of how Wikipedia will always stay behind as long as moderators continue to be stubborn and implement such superfluous confirmation policies. KillaTrav87 (talk) 21:24, 9 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Add in 2023 section: Ohtani is expected to sign a 10-year contract worth $700 million with the Los Angeles Dodgers as of December 2023.^[1] Indefensible (talk) 21:28, 9 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

^ Gonzalez, Alden (2023-12-09). "Ohtani joining Dodgers on 10-year, $700M deal". ESPN.com.

[TweetJon_Morosi-1] Jon Morosi [@Jon_Morosi] (December 8, 2023). "On Shohei Ohtani, remember that the physical exam will be extensive for a record-setting contract. Even if Ohtani makes his *choice* in the next 24 hours -- as expected -- the *agreement* may not be finalized for several days due to the medical review process" (Tweet) – via Twitter. Cite error: The named reference "TweetJon_Morosi" was defined multiple times with different content (see the help page).

[2] Gonzalez, Alden (2023-12-09). "Ohtani joining Dodgers on 10-year, $700M deal". ESPN.com.

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+Ohtani is expected to sign a 10-year contract worth $700 million with the Los Angeles Dodgers as of December 2023.<ref>{{Cite web |date=2023-12-09 |title=Ohtani joining Dodgers on 10-year, $700M deal |url=https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/39076745/shohei-ohtani-join-dodgers-10-year-700m-deal |first=Alden |last=Gonzalez |date=2023-12-09 |website=ESPN.com |language=en}}</ref> [[User:Indefensible|Indefensible]] ([[User talk:Indefensible|talk]]) 21:28, 9 December 2023 (UTC)