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:::I read it as a [[scare quote]]. Since this got changed, consider updating [[WP:QUIRKY]] too with a caveat about physically harmful interpretations (and then probably offensive ones too). —[[User:Bagumba|Bagumba]] ([[User talk:Bagumba|talk]]) 17:00, 4 January 2024 (UTC) |
:::I read it as a [[scare quote]]. Since this got changed, consider updating [[WP:QUIRKY]] too with a caveat about physically harmful interpretations (and then probably offensive ones too). —[[User:Bagumba|Bagumba]] ([[User talk:Bagumba|talk]]) 17:00, 4 January 2024 (UTC) |
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::::Related discussion at {{section link|Wikipedia_talk:Did_you_know#Quirky_vs._clickbait?}} —[[User:Bagumba|Bagumba]] ([[User talk:Bagumba|talk]]) 17:18, 4 January 2024 (UTC) |
::::Related discussion at {{section link|Wikipedia_talk:Did_you_know#Quirky_vs._clickbait?}} —[[User:Bagumba|Bagumba]] ([[User talk:Bagumba|talk]]) 17:18, 4 January 2024 (UTC) |
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*The second-to-last hook links to [[King Lear (1971 USSR film)]], which is a redirect to [[King Lear (1971 Soviet film)]]. ~ [[User:Freedom4U|F4U]] ([[User talk:Freedom4U|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Freedom4U|they/it]]) 20:36, 4 January 2024 (UTC) |
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Errors with "In the news"
""At least 103 people are killed in bombings in Kerman, Iran, during a ceremony commemorating the assassination of Qasem Soleimani.""
The number was revised to about 84 people. Source: (AP News) Oneequalsequalsone (talk) 09:48, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
The number of people unaccounted/missing from the Japanese earthquake is 179, more than twice the current death toll. They have been reported in multiple sources [1] [2] [3] Is this worth mentioning in the blurb? Dora the Axe-plorer (explore) 13:13, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
- I also thought so, but some editors thought the existing blurb already too wordy. Martinevans123 (talk) 13:16, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
- Can we perhaps remove "Noto Peninsula" to shorten? I'm not sure if Ishikawa Prefecture is important in the blurb, I haven't seen any English language source use Ishikawa in their headline so I was thinking we can omit the prefecture. Dora the Axe-plorer (explore) 13:21, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
- I tend to agree. Martinevans123 (talk) 13:23, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
- Except blurbs tend to narrow down the specific location, independent of headlines. What is the rationale for leaving it as plain "Japan" here, or should we be changing for most blurbs going forward? —Bagumba (talk) 14:20, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
- In this specific case, I requested if adding the number of unaccounted people into the blurb was possible. As Martin said some editors have issues with wordy blurbs, would it be OK to sacrifise location precision to accommodate the new information. Or do ITN blurbs need to follow some guideline where specific location is absoloutely necessary? Dora the Axe-plorer (explore) 14:40, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
- Ok, thanks for clarifying the context. —Bagumba (talk) 14:46, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
- Looking at the two newest blurbs, they all have 20+ words, would it be ok if the Jap quake blurb had a few more words. If it isn't an issue, and the specific location cannot be omitted, adding "and leaving at least 170 missing" shouldn't be an issue, would it? Dora the Axe-plorer (explore) 15:19, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
- I've added that wording. The peninsula being linked and named is a specific enough location, and as far as I can see there's no rules around exactly how to specify locations, so I removed Ishikawa Prefecture. Ed [talk] [OMT] 18:44, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
- In this specific case, I requested if adding the number of unaccounted people into the blurb was possible. As Martin said some editors have issues with wordy blurbs, would it be OK to sacrifise location precision to accommodate the new information. Or do ITN blurbs need to follow some guideline where specific location is absoloutely necessary? Dora the Axe-plorer (explore) 14:40, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
- Can we perhaps remove "Noto Peninsula" to shorten? I'm not sure if Ishikawa Prefecture is important in the blurb, I haven't seen any English language source use Ishikawa in their headline so I was thinking we can omit the prefecture. Dora the Axe-plorer (explore) 13:21, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
Re. Japan Airlines Flight 516 - please add/include link to the corresponding article "2024 Haneda Airport runway collision" Chilrreh (talk) 16:21, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
- @Chilrreh: It's already at the bolded "collision" link.—Bagumba (talk) 16:35, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, thank you. I just realized. It’s just that I expected the link at the beginning as articles on air traffic accidents usually or at least in many cases are named „x airlines flight y“. Chilrreh (talk) 19:24, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
Errors in "Did you know ..."
“that "Poison" can soothe babies?“
I think the sentence should be “that the song "Poison" can soothe babies?”
Because the current sentence might confuse people and they might think that poison (a deadly substance) can actually soothe babies — Preceding unsigned comment added by Khaled2200 (talk • contribs) 13:15, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
- This looks to be another case in the category of deliberately misleading DYKs for clickbait purposes. Joseph2302 (talk) 13:54, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
- The hook carefully says "Poison", not poison. I don't know of any deadly substances commercially branded Poison, so I don't see what the problem is. Bazza (talk) 13:58, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
- The sort of person who might be tempted to give poison to a baby, after reading a Wikipedia DYK, is probably not too bothered about use of capital letters. That's assuming they can read, of course. Better throw her in the water? Martinevans123 (talk) 14:48, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
- This is running in the last slot, which we traditionally reserve for WP:QUIRKY hooks, to which we generally extend a bit more latitude. Kind of like a Thursday crossword puzzle in the NY Times :-) I admit there's a fuzzy line between quirky and clickbait, but I think this one fell on the right side of the line. RoySmith (talk) 15:40, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
- I disagree. This is quite firmly on the wrong side of that line. It's not quirky at all, simply misleading. And while the possibility of someone taking it literally is remote, it's still hardly the kind of topic to make cheap jokes about. I think we should make the OP's suggested change. — Amakuru (talk) 16:45, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
- I agree that would be an improvement. Martinevans123 (talk) 16:49, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
- I have made the change. RoySmith (talk) 16:59, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
- I agree that would be an improvement. Martinevans123 (talk) 16:49, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
- I disagree. This is quite firmly on the wrong side of that line. It's not quirky at all, simply misleading. And while the possibility of someone taking it literally is remote, it's still hardly the kind of topic to make cheap jokes about. I think we should make the OP's suggested change. — Amakuru (talk) 16:45, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
- I read it as a scare quote. Since this got changed, consider updating WP:QUIRKY too with a caveat about physically harmful interpretations (and then probably offensive ones too). —Bagumba (talk) 17:00, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
- Related discussion at Wikipedia talk:Did you know § Quirky vs. clickbait? —Bagumba (talk) 17:18, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
- This is running in the last slot, which we traditionally reserve for WP:QUIRKY hooks, to which we generally extend a bit more latitude. Kind of like a Thursday crossword puzzle in the NY Times :-) I admit there's a fuzzy line between quirky and clickbait, but I think this one fell on the right side of the line. RoySmith (talk) 15:40, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
- The sort of person who might be tempted to give poison to a baby, after reading a Wikipedia DYK, is probably not too bothered about use of capital letters. That's assuming they can read, of course. Better throw her in the water? Martinevans123 (talk) 14:48, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
- The second-to-last hook links to King Lear (1971 USSR film), which is a redirect to King Lear (1971 Soviet film). ~ F4U (talk • they/it) 20:36, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
Errors in "On this day"
- 2004 – Spirit – Caption: Artist's concept of a Mars Exploration Rover – Suggest change to "depiction" (or at least to "conception"). Same goes for "impression" in parenthetical "(artist's impression pictured)." – Sca (talk) 13:45, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
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- Nancy Kerrigan attack Suggest replacing it with January 6 United States Capitol attack. Seems the Kerrigan attack has been consistently up for years: 2020, 2022, 2023. The Capitol attack does not seem to have been on OTD before. There's also a picture that can be swapped for Kerrigan. As a background, Interstellarity had swapped in the Capitol attack on 8 December 2023 [4], and Z1720 swapped out the Capitol attack for Kerrigan on 26 December[5]—Bagumba (talk) 05:46, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
- Jan 6 attack has a yellow "too long" banner at the top of the page, and typically OTD doesn't run articles with maintenance banners. I've moved Jan. 6 US attack to "ineligible" on the OTD page. I agree with Nancy Kerrigan: I didn't realise that she ran in 2023 and wouldn't have scheduled her if I did. I swapped her out for Benefits Street (a new entry) and used a new picture of Constantine XI Palaiologos: I encourage other editors to check and ensure they are ready for the Main Page. Z1720 (talk) 18:32, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
- OK. Didn't realize that WP:OTD is stringent on yellow tags, while WP:ITN only limits orange tags.—Bagumba (talk) 18:39, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
- Jan 6 attack has a yellow "too long" banner at the top of the page, and typically OTD doesn't run articles with maintenance banners. I've moved Jan. 6 US attack to "ineligible" on the OTD page. I agree with Nancy Kerrigan: I didn't realise that she ran in 2023 and wouldn't have scheduled her if I did. I swapped her out for Benefits Street (a new entry) and used a new picture of Constantine XI Palaiologos: I encourage other editors to check and ensure they are ready for the Main Page. Z1720 (talk) 18:32, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
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