User talk:Deepfriedokra

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On the internet, no one knows I'm really a dog.

However, I am not a little black dog.

dog earred

power pole

bamboo stand

The ANI tree

red bottlebrush suspended from a plant

treeflections

purple flower macro

dog nose I try

green leaf

It's just a facade

chimney

Communication

Draft:Dave Mary

A while ago I had considered speedy deletion, but there didn't seem to be any criterion that fits. It probably is a hoax, but not such a blatant one as to justify speedy deletion. I suppose that one could say that in view of the editor's history as a whole it is obviously vandalism (and unlike many editors I see nothing in the speedy deletion criteria saying that we are bound to make decisions based only on the content of the page itself, and must not consider such background evidence). However, I am leaving it for someone else to decide, as I think I've had enough involvement with this editor. JBW (talk) 17:31, 7 November 2023 (UTC)

... and I now see that a administrator bolder than me has gone ahead with the deletion... JBW (talk) 19:58, 7 November 2023 (UTC)

Isn't it time the TPA should be revoked?

Hello Deepfriedokra, I've been monitoring that user for a while, and not gonna lie, I'm in absolute stitches as the user continues to misuse the talk page and turned it into some sort of stand-up comedy show. Don't you think that user has had enough already? 🛧Midori No Sora♪🛪 ( ☁＝☁＝✈) 10:43, 10 November 2023 (UTC)

@Midori No Sora: I'll leave that to Tamzin, but, as I said, it might be best to ignore them and stop posting on their talk page. Thanks -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 10:45, 10 November 2023 (UTC)

Fair enough, I'll stop monitoring and will also ignore that user. 🛧Midori No Sora♪🛪 ( ☁＝☁＝✈) 10:47, 10 November 2023 (UTC)

Page: Draft: Claudia Morales

Hello,

I am very new to this and am not clear on which part of the article I created was deemed "advertising" which got it "speedily deleted" I also am very confused about references and read all the help section for it. So, I added references but am not sure if they are acceptable ones.

Please, I need help. I am just trying to get a page for Claudia Morales created as soon as I can. All instructions and guidelines are very convoluted and that makes it difficult to get an article to conform to them. Can you please personally help me get the page right?

Thanks, Paula (Noseallergy) Noseallergy (talk) 20:49, 13 November 2023 (UTC)

@Noseallergy: Please don't feel like you need to hurry where new article creation is concerned. My first efforts were also deleted, and I was given far less guidance than you have received. Please read the deletion notice I left and follow all the links in it. It is information dense, and all that information will need to be read and reread for you to understand it all.

You sourced to what looks like her website, her instagram, some professional profile. Sources need to be independent of the subject, with verifiable information, and with a reputation for fact checking. Sourcing is sometimes the hardest part.

As to the promotionalism, that can be hard to unlearn. You can start by reading the linked information in the deletion notice. Article creation is breathtakingly difficult, so you might want to learn by editing and fixing existing articles first. Hope that helps. Oh, we do not have "pages" We have encyclopedia articles. Thanks -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 21:15, 13 November 2023 (UTC)

Thanks, but now I cannot get back to where your notice is. the article no longer exists. where is your notice? Thanks. Noseallergy (talk) 23:49, 13 November 2023 (UTC)

Noseallergy, it was deleted because it was purely promotional--meaning, it "would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become encyclopedic". So you need to start this from scratch: there was nothing worth saving, according to editors and (deleting) administrator. Drmies (talk) 23:51, 13 November 2023 (UTC)

Oh, I looked at the deleted version. I agree: this is not at all what an encyclopedic article should look like. Please read some actual encyclopedic articles, preferably decent ones, in order to get a better idea of what it is that we do. We don't do advertising. Drmies (talk) 23:53, 13 November 2023 (UTC)

Your user talk page. User talk:Noseallergy

-- Deepfriedokra (talk) 00:18, 14 November 2023 (UTC)

Revert of Doug

Was this intentional? OhNoitsJamie ^Talk 21:14, 14 November 2023 (UTC)

Sorry. no. thanks. Stupid phone that I'm using. Did not mean to do that at all -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 21:21, 14 November 2023 (UTC)

Trying to review their UTR s appeal. It's hard going. I'll have to wait till I met a real computer -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 21:21, 14 November 2023 (UTC)

I hate this phone -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 21:22, 14 November 2023 (UTC)

@Ohnoitsjamie: Back home now. Clearly I lack the skill to use a phone here. Thanks again. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 21:30, 14 November 2023 (UTC)

I made a note on the UTRS ticket. Seems like they are making an effort to waste the time of as many editors as possible in a multithreaded fashion. I can't imagine doing much more besides correcting spelling mistakes with my phone! I just use the regular app for reading, which doesn't seem to be designed with "power usage" in mind. OhNoitsJamie ^Talk 21:31, 14 November 2023 (UTC)

I flunked French, so ..merde -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 21:33, 14 November 2023 (UTC)

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I just wanted to make sure you saw my Thursday email. Moneytrees🏝️(Talk) 22:30, 18 November 2023 (UTC)

@Moneytrees: Yes. Will ake adjustments accordingly. Thanks. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 22:53, 18 November 2023 (UTC)

Does this mean you're running for arbcom? ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 22:54, 18 November 2023 (UTC)

@ScottishFinnishRadish: Thanks, but no. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 22:56, 18 November 2023 (UTC)

Admin's Barnstar

		The Admin's Barnstar
		For politeness to editors falling afoul of UAA or posting promotional drafts at AfC, and consistent efforts to discuss borderline cases with new users rather than the standard block-and-template.. -- Euryalus (talk) 08:25, 19 November 2023 (UTC)

Never given a barnstar before so no doubt am missing some useful syntax or feature. Anyway: as a fellow UAA janitor, have been impressed with your willingness to discuss the borderline cases, and to encourage name changes or COI declarations rather than the standard block/delete/forget that some (including me) too frequently do. -- Euryalus (talk) 08:25, 19 November 2023 (UTC)

Enquiries for the deletion of the Prive WM article

Dear Sir,

May I ask for the reasons why my article is removed. My main purpose is to introduce our company but not to do advertisement. Should I modify my words or neutralise it to be approved ? Jacky Prive (talk) 14:51, 24 November 2023 (UTC)

@Jacky Prive: "Introducing" your company is a form of promotion. Please see the deletion notice I left on your talk page. Please follow all of the links. The notice is information dense and links to important information to help you edit non promotionally. Please see the notice Yamla left about conflict of interest, Thanks, -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 15:22, 24 November 2023 (UTC)

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Hi Deepfriedokra :) I'm looking for people to interview here. Feel free to pass if you're not interested. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 10:27, 2 December 2023 (UTC)

Undefined Bloking

I have been blocked from edict wiki and even my own talk page. Today, 4 December is completed one month. Even Muzzzmuzzmuzzz, that requested my blocking, after doing a PROVEN WRONG edict that I have corrected, asked for my block for a period of just one month. I have done a appeal without having a response. This is not fair. Dirceu Mag 62.252.217.197 (talk) 21:09, 4 December 2023 (UTC)

Yeah, no. I'm afraid, what @Muzzzmuzzmuzzz: wants is not germane. You have had responses to your unblock requests, and still have not addressed the reasons for your block adequately. I'm afraid that evading your block is not going to help you. Waves at @Bbb23: and ducks. (It's for you. 😋) -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 21:23, 4 December 2023 (UTC)

Dirceu Mag (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log) -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 21:24, 4 December 2023 (UTC)

I'm a bloke everyday... nothing wrong with bloking... 😋 - UtherSRG (talk) 13:18, 15 December 2023 (UTC)

blimey, you're right -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 16:31, 15 December 2023 (UTC)

Re: ?

Boring to just indef all the time. Mitch32^{(it's you I like.)} 20:05, 6 December 2023 (UTC)

Revert Requested

Hey DFO, could you revert this edit, please? No edit summary was left, so I'm confused on their reasoning. Thanks. - Neutralhomer • Talk • 04:30, 12 December 2023 (UTC)

@Neutralhomer: Maybe you should discuss with them. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 07:45, 12 December 2023 (UTC)

Sanjay Warrier Page Deletion

Hi there, I tried to add an article on a very respectable doctor in the breast cancer space to build awareness of breast cancer and early detection to reduce mortality rates of the condition. I understand it was tagged for "speedy deletion" but I'm happy to re-write. He has over 65 research papers published in well recognised peer reviews journals. How can I add his profile to Wikipedia?

For reference: https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Sanjay-Warrier Alex-s-kay (talk) 07:04, 12 December 2023 (UTC)

@Alex-s-kay: Thanks for your note. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, so it does not have profiles. I has encyclopedia articles. The problem with "profiles" is they are inherently promotional, and that was the reason it was tagged for deletion. Until you have learned to write in an encyclopedic rather than promotional manner, you might not be able to write about this subject objectively. You might want to gain experience in encyclopedia writing before editing in an area related to a conflict of interest. Please follow the links in the deletion notice I left to better understand how to edit non promotionally. As it sits, it reads like you are selling him and his services. Each statement needs to be sourced as I wrote in the deletion notice. Hope this helps. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 07:58, 12 December 2023 (UTC)

UTRS appeal #82263

Obviously I have no information about the actual appeal. Equally obviously I trust your judgement over this. I suppose I just wanted to express my surprise that the editor I believed was earnest and naïve has turned out to be sockpuppetry. I think I am expressing this to myself, really, after investing a fair amount of time in answering their presumed naïve questions.

I think what crystallised my thinking over this is the fact of a UTRS appeal in addition to an unblock request notice. That drove a coach and horses through the 'earnest and naïve' thoughts that I had previously, on the basis that it required more careful attention to the block that most non-sock editors would trouble with.

Thank you for your work on this. I shall now curl up and lick my wounded pride. 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 13:33, 12 December 2023 (UTC)

@Timtrent: Never feel bad about assuming good faith and helping people. We never know if the other user is truly in earnest or is cleverly deceptive. I can't do SPI cause I tend to believe protestations of innocence. I want to believe this user, but the behavioral evidence needs careful consideration. The upshot is their avenue of appeal is to email ArbCom/the checkusers as no ordinary admin can/may unblock them.

People sock-blocked seeking unblock desperately and disbelievingly place their unblock requests on their talk pages. They aren't answered right away and become more desperate and disbelieving and post to UTRS. It's sad for them and for the reviewers. Best. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 16:03, 12 December 2023 (UTC)

All we can do is to sigh. The ArbCom appeal outcome will doubtless not be publicly available but will reach an additional conclusion.

I am never put off from AGF. I am simply disappointed every time I am proved to have been mistaken. This one appeared genuine in many ways, obviously except the fundamental ones tat I am not privy to. 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 16:07, 12 December 2023 (UTC)

They could be innocent. If you see them unblocked, you will know their appeal prevailed. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 16:10, 12 December 2023 (UTC)

They may be. They appear to be speaking from the heart, but that and sockpuppetry are not mutually exclusive. Time will tell. They have picked some difficult articles to work on, and seem to have attracted a very diligent opponent. 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 16:22, 12 December 2023 (UTC)

😿 -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 16:25, 12 December 2023 (UTC)

Chicago Torture Justice Center

Are you an admin who's around? I don't want to make an ANI and go to all that fuss, but would you mind taking a look at Chicago Torture Justice Center, I've nominated it for AfD because it's been moved around so much between user sandbox, draft-space and several main pages that I don't know if it's eligible for anything else, but I am wondering if it ought to be speedy-deleted as it's basically an attack page not only on Chicago police, but on one particular named guy. It's basically unsourced because it has only general references (which don't look bias-free to me, but I'm not an expert on the area). I am concerned also that its creator might be here to right great wrongs, and will land up at ANI sooner or later if they don't start taking advice. Many thanks! Elemimele (talk) 21:23, 12 December 2023 (UTC)

Let the AfD run. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 21:29, 12 December 2023 (UTC)

Thanks, will do. I appreciate the 2nd opinion! Elemimele (talk) 21:44, 12 December 2023 (UTC)

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UtherSRG (talk) 13:17, 15 December 2023 (UTC)

Ok. I've let them get under my skin. I won't respond. - UtherSRG (talk) 17:58, 15 December 2023 (UTC)

Kavex 98162 unblock request

Hello DFokra I submitted the following unblock request.

Could you take a look.

My concern is Wikipedia oversight is not fit for purpose and my privacy is not respected.

I was blocked for trying to remove my name from the article Oliver Emanuel, starting an edit war. Oversight would not comply even after my name was removed from the source articles in The Scotsman, and The Guardian. I was eventually successful after the ICO decided in my favor and contacted wikimedia legal, but my name was re-added, leading to more socking. The edit history was also eventually rev-deleted for copyvio.

Unfortunately I am now banned from editing wikipedia as I discovered when Irecently tried my admittedly amateur hand at creating the articles Grae Cleugh, and Playwrights' Studio Scotland.

I am concerned that I cannot prevent my name being added in the future if I am blocked.

I emailed [email protected] from my private email which is also in the body of the above unblock request. (oversight requested... I shouldn't have to ask). Please contact me on that email.

I am requesting my personal information (including my name) removed from wikimedia servers and cannot access any of my accounts or socks, which also needs resolved.

I understand abuse of unblock will not be tolerated and only require it for legitimate purposes.

The blocking admin user:GeneralNotability, and "user:Primefac" were not entirely unhelpful, but for reasons unknown, mostly unable to help with my request leading to my block and socking.

I look forward to your response.

I am also requesting escalation to admin privileges, or block exemption but do not expect any movement in that area.

Regards talk) 09:19, 16 December 2023 (UTC)

(Non-administrator comment): Anon, I'm fairly certain admitting to sockpuppetry and block evasion will not help your case. I would recommend removing that hash to start (you aren't supposed to share those, especially on Wiki) and wait on a response from UTRS. It is 5am Eastern, so most folks are still asleep, give it time. Beyond that, requesting an unblock from your original account is the best course of action. - Neutralhomer • Talk • 10:05, 16 December 2023 (UTC)

That was closed at 02:47:29 UTC, so it was dealt with. We don't need the hash to see a ticket, just the username. Sorry that whole affair must have been an ordeal.

As the ticket indicates user had been through a legal process to remove their name, that's the route to follow. The handling admin declined the ticket as not addressing the block. In fact, it was pretty hard to follow and inconsistent. No reason, however understandable, justifies the socking. Shoulda done it the right way w/o socking. In fact, wanting unblock in part to once again take up that sword is not reassuring. @Primefac: if you could fill me in privately as to make some sense of all this. While you are at it, you might want to OS UTRS appeal #82415. I'll go back now and remove that ticket hash. No one concerned with their privacy should post them on Wikipedia. Best -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 12:34, 16 December 2023 (UTC)

No worries. I just saw the post pop up on my Watchlist, read it and went "yeah, this ain't right". I did message Primefac (as they had edited within the hour this took place), but apparently they had gone to bed. To be fair, it was 5a EST, so that was understandable. I thought I would, at least, give the user some advice, which was about all I could do. :) I figured with some daylight, it would all get worked out...and it did. :) - Neutralhomer • Talk • 20:12, 16 December 2023 (UTC)

I did a little searching, just as a curious follow-up, and apparently the above user has been very busy. What a tangled web of sockpuppets. Anywho, just thought you'd be interested. Later...Neutralhomer • Talk • 04:13, 17 December 2023 (UTC)

Mahmud Hasan

Sry. didn't realize the page was hijacked Trade (talk) 12:33, 18 December 2023 (UTC)

@Trade: No problem It happens. I blame the hijacker. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 14:36, 18 December 2023 (UTC)

Huge thanks

I sincerely appreciate all of your efforts to assist me in getting unbanned, including helping out at UTRS, consulting with the blocking admin, and bringing my appeal to the admin's noticeboard. I sincerely appreciate it, and I assure you that you won't regret it. I'll go slowly, and in a few months I'll start writing articles. Thank you so much; please get in touch with me if you ever need anything. 20 upper (talk) 07:51, 23 December 2023 (UTC)

I'm glad and you are very welcome. I never saw a better unblock request. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 09:17, 23 December 2023 (UTC)

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Merry Christmas and a Prosperous 2024!

Hello Deepfriedokra, may you be surrounded by peace, success and happiness on this seasonal occasion. Spread the WikiLove by wishing another user a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Sending you heartfelt and warm greetings for Christmas and New Year 2024. Happy editing, 🛧Midori No Sora♪🛪 ( ☁＝☁＝✈) 03:31, 25 December 2023 (UTC) Spread the love by adding {{subst:Seasonal Greetings}} to other user talk pages.

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User:Konstantin-565

They immediately recreated the spam draft, they might need a block now. Seawolf35 ^T--C 21:51, 27 December 2023 (UTC)

😥 -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 21:52, 27 December 2023 (UTC)

I'm sorry? Seawolf35 ^T--C 21:54, 27 December 2023 (UTC)

When people don't heed my carefully crafted deletion notices, and instead recreate the spamacious content, it makes me sad. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 21:55, 27 December 2023 (UTC)

And my pro tip about all caps-- unheeded. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 21:56, 27 December 2023 (UTC)

Oh Seawolf35 ^T--C 21:57, 27 December 2023 (UTC)

They get a big notice saying hey you, stop that" and then they do it anyway. Seawolf35 ^T--C 21:58, 27 December 2023 (UTC)

DFO's rule of thumb One promotional edit indicates a lack of understanding of our WP:SPAM polices. Two promotional edits indicate ignoring/not understanding spam warning. Three promotional edits indicate intentional use of Wikipedia for promotional purposes. (And adding spam to multiple Wikipedias in a foreign language is way over the top.) -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 21:58, 27 December 2023 (UTC)

@Seawolf35:FWIW, they recreated it with the deletion notice still attached. Wut?-- Deepfriedokra (talk) 22:05, 27 December 2023 (UTC)

I don’t know, they managed to recreate it with my g11 notice on it from their talk page if I remember correctly. Seawolf35 ^T--C 00:14, 28 December 2023 (UTC)

Also, may I use your deletion notices to give some additional info once their pages are deleted? Seawolf35 ^T--C 00:16, 28 December 2023 (UTC)

Certainly -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 00:17, 28 December 2023 (UTC)

I like them. Thanks! Also I can’t see the revision above, I’m not an admin. Seawolf35 ^T--C 02:36, 28 December 2023 (UTC)

OTRS Assistance

A user reached out via my talk page regarding this image and requested assistance. It looks like a cut and dry case of "just needs an FUR", but I saw the VRTS/OTRS link at the bottom. Can you tell me if an FUR will solve this or if there is something else going on? Thanks! - Neutralhomer • Talk • 04:19, 30 December 2023 (UTC)

@Neutralhomer:They'd need to do the paper work vis OTRS, I think. @Deb: is probably a better person to ask.-- Deepfriedokra (talk) 11:01, 30 December 2023 (UTC)

Just to clarify, the user who contacted me needs to submit the FUR at OTRS? Side note: I did add an FUR to the image. I left the OTRS link, but it's no longer showing when you actually view the image (not sure why). - Neutralhomer • Talk • 01:33, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

I fear your confidence in me is misplaced. It's not a topic I am very skilled in. Deb (talk) 11:57, 30 December 2023 (UTC)

Oh, I thought you were the copyvio queen. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 12:03, 30 December 2023 (UTC)

Sadly, no. I do often delete copyvios but normally only when someone else points them out! (I do check first, of course.) Deb (talk) 12:36, 30 December 2023 (UTC)

Making A WIki Page

Hey there, i am currently making a page under the name "Deolin Naidoo" it says that it was deleted and if the article is similar please contact the person who performed actions. This message is regarding the contents of the previous article I am not sure if my contents matches with the existing article or not. I am not affiliated with the previous publisher of that article. I got some questions; Q1: if my article matches with the content of the previous article article what will happen? Q2: if my contents are totally different will my wiki page be approved under an name that was deleted? ILikeFried&Chips (talk) 07:34, 30 December 2023 (UTC)

@ILikeFried&Chips: The version I deleted was promotional and would need to be rewritten from scratch using content cited from reliable sources that are unconnected with the subject and have a reputation for fact checking and in a neutral tone." -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 11:06, 30 December 2023 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

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Regarding this

Don’t worry - any block is a judgement call, and I dare say it’s best to err on the side of caution if there’s doubt. In any event, I imagine they made it relatively easy to decide to reblock by continuing to add links to the website after being warned for it All the best, ‍—‍a smart kitten_[meow] 14:59, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

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Quick question

Was this the correct course of action regarding a minor disagreement here (ie: handing it off to folks, MOS) better suited for this thing)? Talkpage stalkers are welcome to chime in too. - Neutralhomer • Talk • 18:03, 9 January 2024 (UTC)

Sorry, that's way out of my league. The stock answer is always, "AGF, Discuss, Be polite." -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 18:10, 9 January 2024 (UTC)

Any talk page watchers wana take a crack? I've gone cross-eyed. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 18:11, 9 January 2024 (UTC)

That's why I handed off to MOS. They'll know better than I will. :) - Neutralhomer • Talk • 18:27, 9 January 2024 (UTC)

Good idea. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 19:39, 9 January 2024 (UTC)

unblock queue

I like the approach you're taking to the unblock queue these days. --jpgordon^{𝄢𝄆𝄐𝄇} 02:10, 13 January 2024 (UTC)

VegitotheKnightmare

• VegitotheKnightmare (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log)

I also wondered why no block. Has previously left user unused and then come back. I am an involved editor on Talk:Center for Inquiry, Stephanie Sheh, more importantly on Rosa Parks. Until Rosa Parks probably more of a time waster than anything else. Seems to have "Grammar" as favorite misleading description. Huge edits marked as 'm'. BlueWren0123 (talk) 13:05, 15 January 2024 (UTC)

@Cullen328: Yegads! -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 14:07, 15 January 2024 (UTC)

@BlueWren0123: Might want to report at WP:ANI-- Deepfriedokra (talk) 14:43, 15 January 2024 (UTC)

As an involved editor is it reasonable for me to do that? BlueWren0123 (talk) 14:50, 15 January 2024 (UTC)

yes. As long as there's nothing you don't want the Community to see about you. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 14:53, 15 January 2024 (UTC)

Just been a bit off topic, I think nothing outragous BlueWren0123 (talk) 14:54, 15 January 2024 (UTC)

Is it definite that NewWikiUser8998 is VegitotheKnightmare because I do not think that I can see that, just assume it. BlueWren0123 (talk) 14:58, 15 January 2024 (UTC)

Well let Cullen 328 opine. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 15:00, 15 January 2024 (UTC)

I think getting someone who knows the rules and regulations do it would be better but if necessary I will give it a go. Edit to 'Center for Inquiry' Revision as of 00:25, 3 January 2024 by VegittotheKnight concerned me. BlueWren0123 (talk) 15:09, 15 January 2024 (UTC)

I think waiting for Cullen328 to opine here is the best approach -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 15:17, 15 January 2024 (UTC)

I agree BlueWren0123 (talk) 15:19, 15 January 2024 (UTC)

I think that this editor created a sock, User: NewWikiUser8998, to continue edit warring at Center for Inquiry. I blocked the sock but failed to block VegitotheKnightmare. I should have. Their behavior has been tendentious and argumentative ever since. Cullen328 (talk) 20:09, 15 January 2024 (UTC)

Wanna I should? -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 20:11, 15 January 2024 (UTC)

 Erledigt indeffed -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 20:17, 15 January 2024 (UTC)

Thank you. Things should be calmer now. BlueWren0123 (talk) 21:32, 15 January 2024 (UTC)

My pleasure. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 21:33, 15 January 2024 (UTC)

Or possibly not. Look at Talk:Rosa Parks BlueWren0123 (talk) 21:51, 15 January 2024 (UTC)

I will revert both rascist edits. BlueWren0123 (talk) 22:03, 15 January 2024 (UTC)

Vandalism

Hello sir, please look at Graharipu and Chudasama Dynasty. some editors are removing sources contents. And block this Raakuldeep account. 2409:4085:8211:7882:0:0:29BE:70A0 (talk) 23:43, 15 January 2024 (UTC)

For vandalism please report at WP:AIV. For more complex issues, please report at WP:ANI Thanks -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 23:44, 15 January 2024 (UTC)

So?

Your signature is so good you had to sign it twice. :) Seawolf35 ^T--C 03:34, 16 January 2024 (UTC)

stoopid templates -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 03:37, 16 January 2024 (UTC)

YGM

Hi - just letting you know I have sent you an email. Best, Patient Zero^talk 01:53, 17 January 2024 (UTC)

done, I think -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 01:55, 17 January 2024 (UTC)

Responded via email --Patient Zero^talk 01:58, 17 January 2024 (UTC)

Swiss Commercial Association

Hey, young Fritter. You're inviting Kaufmännischer Verband Schweiz to "discuss content and sourcing on Talk: Swiss Commercial Association" and telling them you hope they enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian. But you have declined their unblock request on UTRS, so how are they gonna do those things? I'd be terminally confused if I was them. Heck, I'm pretty confused being me, even though (presumably unlike the user) I can recognize the boilerplate text.

As for their claim at UTRS that there's no advertising or promotion, I'd like to point to their edits where the union is described as a "center of excellence for education and business". It doesn't get much more promotional than that. Firstly, it's taken from the trade union's own site, to which they provide a reference (indeed they link to the "about us" section), and secondly, "das Kompetenzzentrum für Bildung und Beruf" is translated with an extra layer of promotion, with "center of excellence" rather than "the competence center" (as Google Translate has it). Bishonen | tålk 18:01, 17 January 2024 (UTC).

They are more than welcome to do discuss content and sourcing. If they successfully appeal their block They are corporate shills. They are incapable of recognizing their promotionality. That's way they should not be unblocked without such a restriction. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 18:10, 17 January 2024 (UTC)

@Bishonen: forgot to yo, so yo -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 18:11, 17 January 2024 (UTC)

Yes, but will she understand that, do you think? Anyway, also, the person who signed with her name at UTRS needs to do a paid-contributions disclosure, because she's surely paid. Her description of her job doesn't sound like she's a workplace union volunteer, for sure. More likely full-time. Bishonen | tålk 18:31, 17 January 2024 (UTC).

PAID is part of the messages she has, but I can always add the PAID warning if I have not. already. Yes, given the density involved . . . . -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 18:39, 17 January 2024 (UTC)

Thank you for your help! I wanted to follow up…

Hi Deepfriedokra! I very much appreciate your help with moving my unban request and also contributing to that discussion. Since you were really prominent there, I figured you would be a good person to follow up about what I can do with my account now. Above all else, I want to change the name: what options do I have for this, requesting a change or making a new account? What is the best course of action? Also, I wanted to clear my talk page and start anew IF that is possible, is there anything we could do about that?

Thank you in advance, and thank you for all your help again! Nyantiaz (talk) 00:57, 18 January 2024 (UTC)

Very welcome and I am very pleased. @Nyantiaz: Tell me what username you would like? -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 01:00, 18 January 2024 (UTC)

"Watagwaan"

This name sounds strange, but I figured because multiple spellings of it are already being used by others on Wikipedia, it's perfect to be sort of non-distinctive or under the radar. I'm additionally paying tribute to my Caribbean roots!

I also wanted to ask, am I still not allowed to edit offline or on other accounts? Nyantiaz (talk) 01:09, 18 January 2024 (UTC)

Absolutely. We should have spelt that out, but you may not. Sure-fire way to get blocked forever. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 01:10, 18 January 2024 (UTC)

@Nyantiaz: renaming in a moment -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 01:11, 18 January 2024 (UTC)

Thank you so much! I really appreciate it! Just to clarify, we can't remove the block discussions from my talk page? Watagwaan (talk) 01:15, 18 January 2024 (UTC)

{You are unblocked, so you can archive all of that -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 01:18, 18 January 2024 (UTC)

mispinged @Watagwaan: -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 01:20, 18 January 2024 (UTC)

Sorry if this is a stupid question, but how do I archive it? Watagwaan (talk) 01:30, 18 January 2024 (UTC)

A good question. I just create a subpage of my talk page and cut-and-paste there. See my talk page archives linked above, for example. There are other ways, but this works for me. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 01:33, 18 January 2024 (UTC)

Question regarding unblock

I've put forth a proposal for a conditional unblock at Trainrobber66's talk page. You appear to be the blocking administrator. Do you have any objection to the proposed terms, or is all OK by you? — Red-tailed hawk _(nest) 02:20, 18 January 2024 (UTC)

@Red-tailed hawk: No. Please do as you think best. Hopefully, he will stay unblocked this time. Thanks for putting for the effort to salvage this editor. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 02:23, 18 January 2024 (UTC)

Sock of Basrasaab

Looks like the IP sock of User:Basrasaab is back [1] . Could you protect the article from disruption like you did before? Thanks. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 13:23, 18 January 2024 (UTC)

Hello

Hello I would like to say thank you for the unblock I promise all of my edits will be constructive. PrincessJoey2024 (talk) 00:32, 19 January 2024 (UTC)

User talk:PunjabiEditor69

Hey Dfo, I apologize for the delay in responding to your pings. Although I have been on-wiki, honestly, I just haven't felt up to reviewing the user's history to give you my opinion. If you wouldn't mind being patient, I'd appreciate it. BTW, if you have nothing better to do, you could come over to our house and jump-start the car. --Bbb23 (talk) 22:46, 23 January 2024 (UTC)

@Bbb23: No problem. It is exhausting. Alas, I've no time for jump starts. Between my real life time sinks and CAT:UNB, I've little time for anything else. Both are rewarding, and both are exhausting. But I have promised, and did swear it, that I will see the backlog at CAT:UNB below fifteen, and the latency period between opening and closing tickets less than one month by May 1st. Best. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 06:16, 24 January 2024 (UTC)

Declines reduce the backlog too. (contented sigh) -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 08:49, 27 January 2024 (UTC)

And when I reblock, it still reduces latency. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 08:50, 27 January 2024 (UTC)

Backlog 27. Two tickets more than a month old. All with recent response from admins. (under discussion.) Yay us, -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 13:07, 28 January 2024 (UTC)

I admire your AGF

I was starting to wonder if we were getting trolled. Valereee (talk) 15:45, 27 January 2024 (UTC)

Their literal first edit after blanking their talk. They posted a similar bit of gravedancing ten hours ago, which the other user removed. Are we sure this person is actually a net positive? Valereee (talk) 15:50, 27 January 2024 (UTC)

@Valereee: Meh. A sufficiently advanced WP:CIR would be indistinguishable from trolling. No, but if not, he won't stay unblocked log. Did not see the grave dancing. Well, mind boggling. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 15:55, 27 January 2024 (UTC)

I'll be away from this kindergarten for a while. Sheesh. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 16:10, 27 January 2024 (UTC)

hahaha Valereee (talk) 16:12, 27 January 2024 (UTC)

@Valereee: Ironically, the block was to expire tomorrow anyway. What a waste of time. Next time, will check expiration date. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 18:06, 27 January 2024 (UTC)

Huh. I almost wonder if it had to be a compromised account? Valereee (talk) 23:15, 1 February 2024 (UTC)

Maybe, will never get unblocked again -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 23:28, 1 February 2024 (UTC)

That really escalated quickly. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 23:36, 1 February 2024 (UTC)

@ScottishFinnishRadish: Yes. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 23:45, 1 February 2024 (UTC)

User:Bears247

A user who you previously unblocked has now been proposed for a community ban at WP:ANI. See WP:ANI#Bears247 community ban proposal. Thank you, EdJohnston (talk) 22:45, 29 January 2024 (UTC)

@EdJohnston: (sigh) Did not last a month. Did not heed the wake up call? Sad. These high riskers cannot keep their behavior in check. (Gad. I don't remember this user.) -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 22:49, 29 January 2024 (UTC)

January 2024

Hi. I just wanted to draw your attention to the fact that the blocked editor removed the declined unblock review (which they are not supposed to do) in order to request another one (that you reviewed again). Best, M.Bitton (talk) 16:22, 30 January 2024 (UTC)

Oh, frabjous day! -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 16:24, 30 January 2024 (UTC)

@M.Bitton: I put it back. {snickers insanely) -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 16:28, 30 January 2024 (UTC)

Thanks. M.Bitton (talk) 16:33, 30 January 2024 (UTC)

User talk:Joe 50 50 50

You may wish to revoke TPA. Thanks, v/r - Seawolf35 ^T--C 23:09, 30 January 2024 (UTC)

User talk:Rykya

Looks like we edit-conflicted on this one. I thought the appeal was decent and the risk of unblocking was fairly low (assuming ECoG is Electrocorticography, it doesn't look like COI will be too much of a problem), but I'm happy to discuss if you disagree. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 06:20, 31 January 2024 (UTC)

@Extraordinary Writ: No, I was leaning that way. Don't like "updates" but maybe they meant in a good way. Best. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 06:23, 31 January 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for taking a shovel to The Pile -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 06:24, 31 January 2024 (UTC)

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Unblock request at User talk:Irtapil

As an AE block it can only be appealed to myself, AE, or AN. I left the unblock open so I could get some feedback from others on if they were convinced by the reasoning in the unblock request, or if my reading of it seemed more likely. I appreciate you taking a look at it. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 19:08, 31 January 2024 (UTC)

@ScottishFinnishRadish: Oh, should not have declined? Sorry. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 19:37, 31 January 2024 (UTC)

No worries, you took a look at it and didn't seem to think I was plainly incorrect, so it served it's purpose. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 20:01, 31 January 2024 (UTC)

Belated thanks?

It's rather unusual to be thanked for something I did more than 8 months ago, though nowhere near a record, as I have at least once been thanked for a post I had made more than a decade before. JBW (talk) 11:27, 2 February 2024 (UTC)

@JBW: Just saw it reviewing an unblock request. I thought it was spot on. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 12:38, 2 February 2024 (UTC)

Owentherosehead2008

• Umm, Oh. I didn't think this through as far as the blocking administrator of the original account. Silly me. 😕 JBW (talk) 09:56, 6 February 2024 (UTC)

Query

Hello, Deepfriedokra,

There's a question I've been wondering about that maybe you can clarity for me. In my admin duties, I monitor the Move log because, for some reason, new editors can be entranced by the ability to move pages around and they sometimes move them to the wrong namespace which one of us can correct. But it also has page moves for all renames that happen and I see you changing usernames for lots of editors. I also have a lot of scripts I've installed that show different editor statuses and I've noticed that about half of the time, the username changes are for editors that are blocked on this project which always struck me as strange. Is it because you are doing a global username change and they happen to be active on another Wikipedia site on the project? Seems strange for a indefinitely blocked editor to request a username change but I see it happen daily. But I suppose that they might only be blocked on the English Wikipedia. Thanks for any insight you can offer. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 20:51, 6 February 2024 (UTC)

@Liz: If they are other than user name blocked anywhere, they don't get renamed. If they are user name blocked, renaming is part of their unblock conditions. They remain blocked till they deal with their promotional edits, for instance. If they are only blocked for their user name, they have fulfilled the condition for unblocking. I used to unblock and expect them to live up to the promise to rename. Many did not. So I became a renamer to rename and then potentially unblock. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 21:04, 6 February 2024 (UTC)

cf., Category:Requests for username changes when blocked -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 21:09, 6 February 2024 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) Hi, Liz. I became a global renamer precisely so that I could rename blocked users whose unblock is dependent on a rename, because the old method, where even after any issues apart from the username have been resolved, a user is first unblocked on the condition that they apply for a rename before any other editing is subject to various problems. If I am dealing with both the rename and the unblock, I can do both together, but if the unblock is being handled by an administrator who isn't a global renamer, it can make the process easier for all concerned if the rename is out of the way, so that the editor doesn't have to go through the bureacratic process of reading up on how to apply for a rename, then applying for one, then waiting for it to happen ... and there's also the fact that either we run the risk that risk the editor will in fact return to editing without a rename, or else the unblocking administrator has to keep checking back to see whether the editor has started editing without a rename ... Much easier to just get the rename out of the way first. JBW (talk) 16:56, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

Commitment

• You can ignore the following message if you like. Immediately after I posted it, it occurred to me to look the word up in Wiktionary, which gave me the answer right away. It's a little embarrassing for such a solidly established Wikimedian as me not to have thought of that right away. Google? Huh! JBW (talk) 17:12, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

Can you tell me, as a non-speaker of US English, what an ivy league commit is? A Google search came up with countless pages which use the expression, but as far as I could see (without loading them all up and reading them) they all assumed that everybody knows what it means, rather than defining it. I got the impression (again without reading them all) that they all related to the weird (IMO) American practice of universities taking on "students" principally so they could play in their sports teams, rather than on academic merit. Is that what a "commit" is about, or did the first couple of pages of Google hits give me an unrepresentative sample? JBW (talk) 17:06, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

@JBW: A fair question. I assume it's someone with a commitment from an Ivy League school to grant admission. Never saw it before that one individual. (About sixty years ago, there was an Elvis Presley movie with a song in which he offered a few choice thoughts about the Ivy League. I laugh thinking about it. ) -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 17:54, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

Wiktionary gives, as one of the meanings of "commit", (informal, sports, chiefly US) A person, especially a high school athlete, who agrees verbally or signs a letter committing to attend a college or university. That fits with the impression I got from Google. JBW (talk) 20:59, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

@JBW:That makes it more official. BTW, do you think he lost his key? -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 21:58, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

I don't know. Is there a reason to think it likely? So far it hasn't been 48 hours, so they may still come back soon. JBW (talk) 00:30, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

People lose those keys often. You never know. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 01:03, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

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Okra

I was born and raised in Michigan and have lived in California for 52 years. Those are not prime okra eating states, and I admit that I have not had a positive impression of the vegetable in the past.

Anyway, I set out to cook a Cajun New Orleans style dinner outside my comfort zone a few days ago. Cheese grits, roast sweetbreads, fried chicken livers with onions. And I cooked okra for the first time in my life. I soaked them in vinegar, and sautéed them along with Ro-Tel spicy tomatoes and green chilis. It was really delicious and a new flavor for me. Next time, I will try frying okra if I can find a gluten free recipe for my wife. Cullen328 (talk) 03:57, 14 February 2024 (UTC)

Fantastic! -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 12:41, 14 February 2024 (UTC)

@Deepfriedokra It's actually been a while since I had okra. I usually eat it with rice and potato curry, and it tastes a lot better that way. NoobThreePointOh (talk) 20:30, 14 February 2024 (UTC)

Yes. Unfortunately, I can't stand it now. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 20:31, 14 February 2024 (UTC)

Oh, you don't like okra anymore? Even deep-fried? NoobThreePointOh (talk) 20:32, 14 February 2024 (UTC)

😢 -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 20:34, 14 February 2024 (UTC)

Oof. Sorry man. NoobThreePointOh (talk) 20:36, 14 February 2024 (UTC)

ANI Notice

There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. 174.126.129.226 (talk) 09:49, 14 February 2024 (UTC)

@Deepfriedokra Don't worry. The user got blocked. NoobThreePointOh (talk) 12:30, 14 February 2024 (UTC)

Wut

Just saw this, wut? v/r - Seawolf35 ^T--C 16:01, 15 February 2024 (UTC)

@Seawolf35: Vandals gonna vandal -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 18:18, 15 February 2024 (UTC)

Question regarding distinction between Disruptive Editing and Vandalism

Hi,

Maybe a dumb question but thought best to ask an admin directly. Would multiple instances of what appears to be the manufacturing of quotes from sources be a "red line" distinction matter between "disruptive editing" and vandalism, given it would appear to be willful behaviour?

Regards, Rambling Rambler (talk) 01:54, 16 February 2024 (UTC)

@Rambling Rambler: Sounds like vandalism if they are deliberately introducing erroneous content. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 01:56, 16 February 2024 (UTC)

Ok. I have an ANI open about this user but after finding what appears to be fraudulent quotes I'll move it to the vandalism board. Thanks for the quick response. Rambling Rambler (talk) 01:59, 16 February 2024 (UTC)

ANI might work as well. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 09:31, 16 February 2024 (UTC)

Suggestion

@Deepfriedokra and OhanaUnited:

I wouldn't suggest taking into account a former sockpuppet Suthasianhistorian8's opinion on Varials because its like a former convicted criminal speaking against someone on trial who he has rivalry with. Deepfriedokra you actually denied his unblock request before he was unblocked 6 months later. I am just trying to say here that for someone on trial like Varials where sockpuppetry is doubtful, you can take Suthasianhistorian8's case into consideration who was actually confirmed for using 13 sock accounts and later unblocked, given linency. 2601:547:B01:A5C9:F26F:903:5268:35AB (talk) 18:11, 16 February 2024 (UTC)