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The lack of anything but a few houses at a crossroads, most of which appear to be modern, suggests that the entire history of the place is that of the post office. Does not appear be a real settlement. Mangoe (talk) 01:56, 11 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Geography and Indiana. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 04:12, 11 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect >>> Perry Township, Boone County, Indiana per WP:GEOLAND, which clearly states: If a Wikipedia article cannot be developed using known sources, information on the informal place should be included in the more general article on the legally recognized populated place or administrative subdivision that contains it. Djflem (talk) 05:51, 11 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Why? Right now the article claims that it (and Herr) are "unincorporated towns", which does not appear to be true. What ae we going to say about Shepherd that can be sourced? I'm not against merging the ones that actually are towns up to these articles, but as that is consistently opposed, it's time to reconsider this guideline. Mangoe (talk) 03:55, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It's not a merge; it's a redirect to where it's already mentioned. Easily fixed: unincorporated communities.Djflem (talk) 07:51, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Changing "town" to the preferred WP euphemism "community" doesn't fix the reason why we are here, which is that there is a lack of evidence for this "community". Mangoe (talk) 01:36, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete This doesn't exist, so nothing needs to be redirected. This is one of many "places" that were created using a template. These usually have copy and paste errors as well. They always have the same 4 sources. Forte's list of post offices, which isn't proof that a populated place existed because post offices are not always located in populated places. GNIS which is not proof a place existed. The US census source isn't used, and is there because the creator was in too much of a hurry to remove it from the copy and paste job. I searched google, google books and google news, as well as newspapers.com and the other newspapers site in the Wikipedia library. No evidence of it's existence can be found outside of GNIS. It's just another rural post office that GNIS turned into a populated place.James.folsom (talk) 23:11, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, don't redirect: User James.folsom has it spot-on. There is nothing to be said about this place other than it has an entry in GNIS and once had a post office; redirection would just be confusing. Besides, what is the likelihood that someone would be searching for Shepherd, Indiana and find Perry Township informative? This is such an obscure place that anyone interested in it would already have far more information in hand than would be found at the target redirect article. WeirdNAnnoyed (talk) 15:50, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. This one's borderline. Shepherd does appear on various older maps marked as a town, such as this 1920s plat book, 1930s county map, etc. This is in contrast to Herr two miles south which isn't marked on any of them. Area newspapers note the creation of a post office at Shepherd (Jackson County Banner, 7 October 1886: "A post office has been established at Shepherd, Boone County, and Henry W. Glendenning commissioned postmaster."[1]) and it pops up occasionally as a named locality in the 1890s and early 1900s (Indianapolis News, 2 September 1901: "The next reunion will be held in the Allen Schenck grove, near Shepherd, in Boone County..."[2]). On the flip side, I see no evidence of businesses or significant settlement there. Probably safe to delete (even though it goes against my retentionist tendencies). ╠╣uw [talk] 12:12, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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 *'''Delete''' This doesn't exist, so nothing needs to be redirected. This is one of many "places" that were created using a template. These usually have copy and paste errors as well. They always have the same 4 sources. Forte's list of post offices, which isn't proof that a populated place existed because post offices are not always located in populated places. GNIS which is not proof a place existed. The US census source isn't used, and is there because the creator was in too much of a hurry to remove it from the copy and paste job. I searched google, google books and google news, as well as newspapers.com and the other newspapers site in the Wikipedia library. No evidence of it's existence can be found outside of GNIS. It's just another rural post office that GNIS turned into a populated place.[[User:James.folsom|James.folsom]] ([[User talk:James.folsom|talk]]) 23:11, 12 April 2024 (UTC)
 *'''Delete, don't redirect''': User James.folsom has it spot-on.  There is nothing to be said about this place other than it has an entry in GNIS and once had a post office; redirection would just be confusing.  Besides, what is the likelihood that someone would be searching for Shepherd, Indiana and find Perry Township informative?  This is such an obscure place that anyone interested in it would already have far more information in hand than would be found at the target redirect article. [[User:WeirdNAnnoyed|WeirdNAnnoyed]] ([[User talk:WeirdNAnnoyed|talk]]) 15:50, 13 April 2024 (UTC)
+*'''Comment'''. This one's borderline. Shepherd does appear on various older maps marked as a town, such as  [https://indianamemory.contentdm.oclc.org/digital/collection/p15078coll8/id/4570 this 1920s plat book], [https://indianamemory.contentdm.oclc.org/digital/collection/p15078coll8/id/3764 1930s county map], etc. This is in contrast to [[Herr, Indiana|Herr]] two miles south which isn't marked on any of them. Area newspapers note the creation of a post office at Shepherd (<small>''Jackson County Banner'', 7 October 1886: "A post office has been established at Shepherd, Boone County, and Henry W. Glendenning commissioned postmaster."[https://www.newspapers.com/image/206929177]</small>) and it pops up occasionally as a named locality in the 1890s and early 1900s (<small>''Indianapolis News'', 2 September 1901: "The next reunion will be held in the Allen Schenck grove, near Shepherd, in Boone County..."[https://www.newspapers.com/image/37276179]</small>). On the flip side, I see no evidence of businesses or significant settlement there. Probably safe to delete (even though it goes against my retentionist tendencies). [[User:Huwmanbeing|╠╣uw]]&nbsp;<span style="font-size:smaller"><nowiki>[</nowiki>[[User talk:Huwmanbeing|talk]]<nowiki>]</nowiki></span> 12:12, 14 April 2024 (UTC)