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:::You seem to be asking for this because your goal in editing is to insert your own company into infoboxes. Without a non-promotional reason to consider this, I doubt anyone is going to give it serious thought. Note as well that Moby Games is an unreliable source for user, per [[WP:USERG]]. -- [[User:Ferret|ferret]] ([[User_talk:Ferret|talk]]) 14:15, 13 May 2024 (UTC) |
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italic title parameter doesn't affect above
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The italicization of above
is done with TemplateStyles, so it remains italicized when italic title
is set to no
. Snowmanonahoe (talk · contribs · typos) 20:20, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
- Please link to a page showing this effect. – Jonesey95 (talk) 03:12, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
- Roblox, per requester's recent edits. SilverLocust 💬 05:26, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
- Permalink because Rhain fixed it with {{noitalics}}. Snowmanonahoe (talk · contribs · typos) 15:55, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
- It looks like someone took care of this rare exception with {{ni}}. According to the documentation,
italic title
controls the display of the title of the article as displayed at the very top of your browser window (the H1-formatted page title), not the text at the top of the infobox. – Jonesey95 (talk) 15:57, 22 March 2024 (UTC)- Well yeah, but an even rarer exception than this rare exception is wanting the title to not be italics but also wanting the the top of the infobox to be italics. Snowmanonahoe (talk · contribs · typos) 15:58, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
- If you have specific edits you would like to make to change the template, you can make the changes in Template:Infobox video game/sandbox and/or Template:Infobox video game/styles.css/sandbox and then reactivate the request. SilverLocust 💬 18:19, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
- To clarify, I'm not sure that scenario is actually rarer; it would apply whenever the infobox is used multiple times within an article, such as here or here. – Rhain ☔ (he/him) 23:51, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
- Well yeah, but an even rarer exception than this rare exception is wanting the title to not be italics but also wanting the the top of the infobox to be italics. Snowmanonahoe (talk · contribs · typos) 15:58, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
- It looks like someone took care of this rare exception with {{ni}}. According to the documentation,
- Permalink because Rhain fixed it with {{noitalics}}. Snowmanonahoe (talk · contribs · typos) 15:55, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
- Roblox, per requester's recent edits. SilverLocust 💬 05:26, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
- Incidentally, that the title is italicized by styles is a bit sus to me; italic markup is totally appropriate for the name of a video game. (Well, WHATWG would prefer we use <cite> but we use that instead for actual citations and italics instead for names of italicized things like species, books, and ships.) Izno (talk) 08:07, 5 April 2024 (UTC)
Port developers
The infobox guidelines clearly stated that we should not list port developers. A common way to circumvent this guideline is to use notelist, which IMO is pretty much the same thing. I think it is due time to discuss whether using notelist to circumvent this guideline should be considered to be acceptable, either updating the guidelines descriptions (explicitly say that it is ok to list them with notes), or reaffirming that the infobox should only list solely the lead developer, and nothing else. OceanHok (talk) 19:17, 6 April 2024 (UTC)
- I’d be happy with making it more explicit. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs talk 19:18, 6 April 2024 (UTC)
- Think should be okay to include as notes, gives them less prominence but still includes so seems like good balance. Examples of including port developer as notes include good articles Horizon Zero Dawn and The Last of Us Part I, and featured article Spider-Man (2018 video game). Note it's template documentation, not a guideline as you say, big difference as guidelines have more process for consensus. Indagate (talk) 20:26, 6 April 2024 (UTC)
- That's a big WP:OTHERSTUFF to be honest, not to mention that HZD and Spider-Man both have their notes added after their GAN/FAC. Circumventing an existing template documentation is breaking a consensus. It doesn't matter if it is a policy, a guideline, a talk page discussion, or a template documentation. I don't see how this should be accepted if the consensus here doesn't change. OceanHok (talk) 05:19, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
- What makes you think there is consensus that footnotes are not OK? It's not mentioned at all in the template documentation. TarkusABtalk/contrib 10:22, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
- This is such an established pattern that, absent something that explicitly forbids it, it has essentially become silent consensus at this point. We can of course arrive at a new consensus forbidding it, but I don't think the EFN usage is "breaking" a consensus so much as slipping through a loophole in the intent. -- ferret (talk) 15:05, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
- I disagree that it's breaking the intent. I interpret the intent here as to prevent long infoboxes, which the footnote doesn't contribute to. TarkusABtalk/contrib 17:16, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
- That's why I think the infobox documentation should be more explicit about this if there is a consensus for it. OceanHok (talk) 03:35, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
- I disagree that it's breaking the intent. I interpret the intent here as to prevent long infoboxes, which the footnote doesn't contribute to. TarkusABtalk/contrib 17:16, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
- That's a big WP:OTHERSTUFF to be honest, not to mention that HZD and Spider-Man both have their notes added after their GAN/FAC. Circumventing an existing template documentation is breaking a consensus. It doesn't matter if it is a policy, a guideline, a talk page discussion, or a template documentation. I don't see how this should be accepted if the consensus here doesn't change. OceanHok (talk) 05:19, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose adding text that prohibits footnotes. Using them seems to be a generally accepted practice. I've never heard a complaint. Ports can be significant, and having the developers footnoted is an easy way to make the information accessible without extending the length of the infobox. Some pages that do this:
- Chrono Trigger (FA)
- Cave Story (FA)
- Silent Hill 2 (GA)
- Halo: Combat Evolved
- Halo 2 (FA)
- Half-Life (video game) (GA)
- Killer7 (FA)
- Resident Evil 5 (FA)
- System Shock (FA)
- Silent Hill 4: The Room (FA)
- Phantasmagoria (video game) (FA)
- TarkusABtalk/contrib 05:53, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
- Did any of the above have them when they were made FA? I know the Halo games definitely didn't, and my impression is that sticking them in the infobox is a relatively recent phenomenon. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs talk 21:51, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
Age ratings need to be implemented!
Age ratings needs to be a part of the standard template for video games. I think this should be obvious. (Can someone fix? I don't know how) 2A01:563:128:700:DCA4:4385:D7F4:3F67 (talk) 19:06, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
- Could you provide any arguments that transcend the previous discussion on the matter? IceWelder [✉] 19:19, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
- There are too many age rating systems in the world to be able to include them all in infoboxes. Hence why we (as well as for movies and television shows) do not implement them. Masem (t) 19:35, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
Add Sound Design to Video Game credits list
I am wondering why there are no entries for Sound Design on your Video Game entries on Wiki. There are entries for other game development roles and even an entry for Composer on each video game, but no entry for Sound Design. I recently tried to add a new Sound Design field in the credits of a video game entry, but my edit was removed. Can we please add a new entry for Sound Design in the Video Game credits list. SoundCredit (talk) 11:03, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
- It's been asked for numerous times - it's even in the FAQ at the top of this page - but I can't see it happening anytime soon, as the template needs to take a wide view of things. It's still the case that the vast majority of sound designers are not referenced in reliable sources. Anything in the infobox needs to be referenced in the prose section of the article. - X201 (talk) 11:12, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for getting back to me.
- So, this should be addressed, there are pleny of reliable sources for sound designers on video games these days, and there are already entries for the music composer on video games and not all games even have composers, so this seems a bit out dated.
- If you want a reliable source for video game credits take a look at Moby Games.
- Anyway, could you advice me on how I can get this sorted out ?
- Thanks SoundCredit (talk) 11:28, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
- You seem to be asking for this because your goal in editing is to insert your own company into infoboxes. Without a non-promotional reason to consider this, I doubt anyone is going to give it serious thought. Note as well that Moby Games is an unreliable source for user, per WP:USERG. -- ferret (talk) 14:15, 13 May 2024 (UTC)