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:*{{ping|Lincolnite}} Hi Lincolnite. I have also presented five Chinese sources which documented his life not related to the elections in SIGCOV. Please review the sources I have provided, and enlighten me why you find the notability is still not demonstrated from them. <del>If you need help with the translations, please let me know as well.</del> (Edit:I have provided translations above.) —'''[[User:Prince of Erebor|<span style="color:#DAA520;font-family:Garamond;font-size:12pt;">Prince of Erebor</span>]]<small>([[User talk:Prince of Erebor|<span style="color:Teal;font-family:Garamond;">The Book of Mazarbul</span>]])</small>''' 14:12, 10 June 2024 (UTC) |
:*{{ping|Lincolnite}} Hi Lincolnite. I have also presented five Chinese sources which documented his life not related to the elections in SIGCOV. Please review the sources I have provided, and enlighten me why you find the notability is still not demonstrated from them. <del>If you need help with the translations, please let me know as well.</del> (Edit:I have provided translations above.) —'''[[User:Prince of Erebor|<span style="color:#DAA520;font-family:Garamond;font-size:12pt;">Prince of Erebor</span>]]<small>([[User talk:Prince of Erebor|<span style="color:Teal;font-family:Garamond;">The Book of Mazarbul</span>]])</small>''' 14:12, 10 June 2024 (UTC) |
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:*:'''Delete''' - nothing he has done prior to or including his candidacy are notable enough to warrant an article. Half a dozen puff pieces on the same subject is not significant enough to meet the GNG significant coverage requirement. [[User:Saltywalrusprkl|Saltywalrusprkl]] ([[User talk:Saltywalrusprkl|talk]]) 15:34, 10 June 2024 (UTC) |
:*:'''Delete''' - nothing he has done prior to or including his candidacy are notable enough to warrant an article. Half a dozen puff pieces on the same subject is not significant enough to meet the GNG significant coverage requirement. [[User:Saltywalrusprkl|Saltywalrusprkl]] ([[User talk:Saltywalrusprkl|talk]]) 15:34, 10 June 2024 (UTC) |
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::No evidence at all that it is a cut and paste article from press releases- indeed the examples cited are clearly interviews or written neutrally. Also note it makes no sense to delete an article just before a general election - this deletion request is clearly politically motivated. [[User:Editorman75|Editorman75]] ([[User talk:Editorman75|talk]]) 20:48, 10 June 2024 (UTC) |
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*'''Delete''' - Website already suffers with half a dozen pages for people who do not need one, and given that polling suggests that he will be [https://www.miltonkeynes.co.uk/news/politics/new-polling-suggests-change-in-milton-keynes-and-aylesbury-vale-following-2024-general-election-4654130 unlikely to win] does not really add to this article's case. Agree with everything else stated so far. [[User:Tweedle|Tweedle]] ([[User talk:Tweedle|talk]]) 16:49, 10 June 2024 (UTC) |
*'''Delete''' - Website already suffers with half a dozen pages for people who do not need one, and given that polling suggests that he will be [https://www.miltonkeynes.co.uk/news/politics/new-polling-suggests-change-in-milton-keynes-and-aylesbury-vale-following-2024-general-election-4654130 unlikely to win] does not really add to this article's case. Agree with everything else stated so far. [[User:Tweedle|Tweedle]] ([[User talk:Tweedle|talk]]) 16:49, 10 June 2024 (UTC) |
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*'''Delete''' an article on an unelected political candidate which reads like a CV and who is not otherwise notable. If he wins, we can restore the article. [[User:SportingFlyer|SportingFlyer]] ''<span style="font-size:small; vertical-align:top;">[[User talk:SportingFlyer|T]]</span>''·''<span style="font-size:small; vertical-align:bottom;">[[Special:Contributions/SportingFlyer|C]]</span>'' 19:28, 10 June 2024 (UTC) |
*'''Delete''' an article on an unelected political candidate which reads like a CV and who is not otherwise notable. If he wins, we can restore the article. [[User:SportingFlyer|SportingFlyer]] ''<span style="font-size:small; vertical-align:top;">[[User talk:SportingFlyer|T]]</span>''·''<span style="font-size:small; vertical-align:bottom;">[[Special:Contributions/SportingFlyer|C]]</span>'' 19:28, 10 June 2024 (UTC) |
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The subject does not meet general notability requirements or the notability requirements for a politician. The only coverage of the subject is by local and obscure outlets who provide run-of-the-mill coverage of him as a candidate in local elections. thena (talk) 19:01, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Politicians, Conservatism, Hong Kong, and United Kingdom. Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 20:05, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of England-related deletion discussions. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 22:39, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
- Delete Agree that subject lacks required notability for an article. Williehuggies (talk)
- Williehuggies (talk) 10:05, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
- Delete I also agree that the subject lacks required notability. A bright cold day in april (talk)
- A bright cold day in april (talk) 12:10, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
- Keep: By searching with the subject person's Chinese name 陸勤業, I found numerous sources which documented his biography outside of his political career in detail, including Wen Wei Po[1], The News Lens[2], Phoenix Television[3], BBC[4], as well as a Wen Wei Po interview about Hong Kong immigrants' endeavors in the UK[5]. The article has also presented several sources that documented his political career, such as Camden New Journal[6] and Islington Tribune[7]. Adding up both the Chinese and English sources, I think the subject person has obviously met GNG. @Williehuggies and A bright cold day in april: Please take a look at the sources and rationales I presented. —Prince of Erebor(The Book of Mazarbul) 13:29, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
- Comment: My bad for not providing Chinese translation in my first comment, I have placed the translated versions of the five Chinese sources below:
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1.Wen Wei Po: In this UK general election, there are 9 British Chinese candidates running, including 29-year-old Conservative Party candidate Johnny Luk, who was born in Hong Kong. Luk, who is running for Parliament for the first time, recounts his experience of racial discrimination during his studies, revealing that he was once told to "go back to China." He calls on the Chinese community to speak up more, to drive improvements in the government's policies and funding for the Chinese community, and even to influence the UK's foreign relations with East Asia.
2.The News Lens: This includes 32-year-old Johnny Luk, who contested the Hampstead and Kilburn constituency in the 2019 general election.
3.Phoenix Television: Johnny Luk, 25 years old, followed his parents to immigrate to the UK when he was 10 years old. After graduating from a university in the UK, he now works at a non-profit organization, helping university graduates in the UK realize their entrepreneurial dreams.
4.BBC: "Seeing what is happening (in Hong Kong), I feel very sad," said 29-year-old Conservative Party candidate Johnny Luk. Although China is sometimes controversial, the China-UK relationship is still much better than the relationship between Russia and the UK. "I hope I can build a bridge between China and the UK, and enhance mutual understanding," said the 29-year-old Conservative Party candidate Johnny Luk.
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- In my opinion, even if the two English sources discussed below are excluded, these five sources already provided enough SIGCOV to pass WP:GNG and should be kept. —Prince of Erebor(The Book of Mazarbul) 14:45, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
- Delete. If he's elected in the general election next month, the article can be recreated but for the time being he doesn't meet WP:POLITICIAN or WP:GNG. As to the Camden New Journal and Islington Tribune articles mentioned by others, these seem to be cut-and-paste jobs from press releases put out by his campaign, which is sadly the norm in British local newspapers. I would argue that they do not constitute significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject. Lincolnite (talk) 13:52, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Lincolnite: Hi Lincolnite. I have also presented five Chinese sources which documented his life not related to the elections in SIGCOV. Please review the sources I have provided, and enlighten me why you find the notability is still not demonstrated from them.
If you need help with the translations, please let me know as well.(Edit:I have provided translations above.) —Prince of Erebor(The Book of Mazarbul) 14:12, 10 June 2024 (UTC)- Delete - nothing he has done prior to or including his candidacy are notable enough to warrant an article. Half a dozen puff pieces on the same subject is not significant enough to meet the GNG significant coverage requirement. Saltywalrusprkl (talk) 15:34, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
- No evidence at all that it is a cut and paste article from press releases- indeed the examples cited are clearly interviews or written neutrally. Also note it makes no sense to delete an article just before a general election - this deletion request is clearly politically motivated. Editorman75 (talk) 20:48, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Lincolnite: Hi Lincolnite. I have also presented five Chinese sources which documented his life not related to the elections in SIGCOV. Please review the sources I have provided, and enlighten me why you find the notability is still not demonstrated from them.
- Delete - Website already suffers with half a dozen pages for people who do not need one, and given that polling suggests that he will be unlikely to win does not really add to this article's case. Agree with everything else stated so far. Tweedle (talk) 16:49, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
- Delete an article on an unelected political candidate which reads like a CV and who is not otherwise notable. If he wins, we can restore the article. SportingFlyer T·C 19:28, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
- Keep: The timing of this deletion request seems strange, just weeks before a General Election. His page was up all the way till now, when arguably he is more significant now than before. The only poll that matters is the actual election result, so this comment also does not add to the debate. Editorman75 (talk) 20:45, 10 June 2024 (UTC)