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The article is a hodgepodge of facts, written more like a promotional piece - an agent's summary - than a biography. Plus it's virtually unsourced. I'll see what I can do to find more references, and line things up the way bios ought to be; but I admit my shortcomings right up front and could use whatever help people may want to offer. Thanks! JohnInDC (talk) 20:35, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I've moved a few things around to clarify the formal positions the subject has held over the years. I removed a pull quote associated with the book he wrote - it looks like something that would appear on the book's own flyleaf, or put out by the publisher - and I couldn't find a separate, third party source for it. I also removed a sentence about attending Roosevelt University (a degree-granting institution) from ages 13-17. That seems a little too extraordinary to leave in without a source, and the one source now in the article doesn't really support it. (That one source seems to be locked behind a paywall. Archive.org provides an abstract, [link], and newspapers.com a jumbled OCR excerpt, [link], and from what I can make of it, the subject attended Highland Park High School and took lessons "at Roosevelt University's downtown campus", which in my reading falls a little short of "attending".). JohnInDC (talk) 21:27, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I've added a COI template to the article. My initial search for sources turns up a whole lot of mentions of and references to the subject, and two or three interviews, but nothing in the way of 3d party coverage that remotely sources a biography in the detail set forth here. It seems very likely that these details reflect personal knowledge rather than material contained in 3d party sources, and, given that the only real substantive contributors all seem to be IPs in the same general range, it stands to reason that the main contributors to this article have some connection to the subject. JohnInDC (talk) 00:48, 27 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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	:I've moved a few things around to clarify the formal positions the subject has held over the years. I removed a pull quote associated with the book he wrote - it looks like something that would appear on the book's own flyleaf, or put out by the publisher - and I couldn't find a separate, third party source for it. I also removed a sentence about attending Roosevelt University (a degree-granting institution) from ages 13-17. That seems a little too extraordinary to leave in without a source, and the one source now in the article doesn't really support it. (That one source seems to be locked behind a paywall. Archive.org provides an abstract, [[https://web.archive.org/web/20160305201703/http://pqasb.pqarchiver.com/chicagotribune/doc/283212217.html?FMT=ABS&FMTS=ABS:FT&type=current&date=May%2026,%201991&author=Barbara%20Revsine.&pub=Chicago%20Tribune%20(pre-1997%20Fulltext)&edition=&startpage=&desc=Rising%20star%20plans%20a%20musical%20homecoming link]], and newspapers.com a jumbled OCR excerpt, [[https://chicagotribune.newspapers.com/newspage/389591081/ link]], and from what I can make of it, the subject attended Highland Park High School and took lessons "at Roosevelt University's downtown campus", which in my reading falls a little short of "attending".). [[User:JohnInDC\|JohnInDC]] ([[User talk:JohnInDC\|talk]]) 21:27, 26 June 2024 (UTC)		:I've moved a few things around to clarify the formal positions the subject has held over the years. I removed a pull quote associated with the book he wrote - it looks like something that would appear on the book's own flyleaf, or put out by the publisher - and I couldn't find a separate, third party source for it. I also removed a sentence about attending Roosevelt University (a degree-granting institution) from ages 13-17. That seems a little too extraordinary to leave in without a source, and the one source now in the article doesn't really support it. (That one source seems to be locked behind a paywall. Archive.org provides an abstract, [[https://web.archive.org/web/20160305201703/http://pqasb.pqarchiver.com/chicagotribune/doc/283212217.html?FMT=ABS&FMTS=ABS:FT&type=current&date=May%2026,%201991&author=Barbara%20Revsine.&pub=Chicago%20Tribune%20(pre-1997%20Fulltext)&edition=&startpage=&desc=Rising%20star%20plans%20a%20musical%20homecoming link]], and newspapers.com a jumbled OCR excerpt, [[https://chicagotribune.newspapers.com/newspage/389591081/ link]], and from what I can make of it, the subject attended Highland Park High School and took lessons "at Roosevelt University's downtown campus", which in my reading falls a little short of "attending".). [[User:JohnInDC\|JohnInDC]] ([[User talk:JohnInDC\|talk]]) 21:27, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
	::I've added a COI template to the article. My initial search for sources turns up a whole lot of mentions of and references to the subject, and two or three interviews, but nothing in the way of 3d party coverage that ~~supports~~ a biography in the detail set forth here. It seems very likely that these details reflect personal knowledge rather than material contained in 3d party sources, and, given that the only real substantive contributors all seem to be IPs in the same general range, it stands to reason that the main contributors to this article have some connection to the subject. [[User:JohnInDC\|JohnInDC]] ([[User talk:JohnInDC\|talk]]) 00:48, 27 June 2024 (UTC)		::I've added a COI template to the article. My initial search for sources turns up a whole lot of mentions of and references to the subject, and two or three interviews, but nothing in the way of 3d party coverage that remotely sources a biography in the detail set forth here. It seems very likely that these details reflect personal knowledge rather than material contained in 3d party sources, and, given that the only real substantive contributors all seem to be IPs in the same general range, it stands to reason that the main contributors to this article have some connection to the subject. [[User:JohnInDC\|JohnInDC]] ([[User talk:JohnInDC\|talk]]) 00:48, 27 June 2024 (UTC)