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List of people with non-binary gender identities

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List of people with non-binary gender identities (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View log | edits since nomination)

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While I'm sure this list seemed like a good idea when it was started in 2015, it is no longer practical to keep it updated. According to Wikidata, there are about 1000 non-binary people with Wikipedia articles. This list only includes about 200 of them (including some that probably don't belong, like Prince). The number of notable non-binary people is growing at a rapid rate and I think this information is better handled via Wikidata and categories (the same as we handle other genders). By only listing a small fraction, we are giving the false impression that there are a much smaller number of notable non-binary people than there really are. If you disagree, please elaborate on how you think this list can be realistically kept up-to-date into the future. Nosferattus (talk) 16:06, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

• Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Lists of people-related deletion discussions. Nosferattus (talk) 16:06, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

Weak support: Seems reasonable to handle the same as other gender identities. Is it possible to redirect to Category:Non-binary people (even though it's out of the article namespace)? The downside would be that there's no central list: categories organize things as trees, and it's impossible to view an actual list of all the people. But that may be inevitable. If wikidata gives a list view, maybe it's possible to link to wikidata somehow? Mrfoogles (talk) 16:22, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

Need a second opinion though Mrfoogles (talk) 16:25, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

Comment I wanted to make a comment first before voting. I am going to throw this out there; we have list articles like Lists of women, Lists of men, List of gay, lesbian or bisexual people, Lists of LGBT people, List of transgender people. Honestly I don't understand the arguement behind this at all.CycoMa1 (talk) 17:06, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

Like can any of you please provide a link to a policy page to back up your arguments?CycoMa1 (talk) 17:17, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

Like are any of the arguments backed up by Wikipedia:DEL-REASON?CycoMa1 (talk) 17:21, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

Anyway I think I said everything I needed to say right now. Just going to wait for others to comment.CycoMa1 (talk) 18:14, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

@CycoMa1: How about we change it to Lists of non-binary people, similar to Lists of women and Lists of men? This would include lists like List of non-binary writers, and other more manageable sub-lists. Nosferattus (talk) 23:19, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

I would be in support of that. But this discussion is more about whether or not the article should be deleted.CycoMa1 (talk) 23:35, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

Keep There is no reason to delete the article per the things I said earlier.CycoMa1 (talk) 18:46, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

• Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sexuality and gender-related deletion discussions. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 18:51, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

Keep. We maintain a list of the 1,025 Pokémon, so why not the roughly 900 pages in Category:Non-binary people? That's a large but not intractable number of entries, and not even close to the largest stand-alone list on Wikipedia (I've personally touched List of women authors which includes over 8000 entries). Updating the article to include all current English Wikipedia biography subjects in that cat (excluding the dozen which are fictional, like Toad) is a perfectly feasible task for a motivated volunteer with a spreadsheet. There is no deadline. –RoxySaunders 🏳️‍⚧️ (💬 • 📝) 19:51, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

If it's helpful at all, I got an LLM to spit out a SPARQL query, which retrieves the relevant data for whatever set of article subjects are correctly tagged as being non-binary humans in Wikidata (875, at time of writing). –RoxySaunders 🏳️‍⚧️ (💬 • 📝) 20:09, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

@RoxySaunders: That's a good start, although there also 46 gender identities in Wikidata that are subclasses of non-binary. Plus we need references for all of them. Nosferattus (talk) 23:21, 8 July 2024 (UTC)