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Change name to Omu Meghan Markle, Duchess of Sussex, Ada Mazi of the Ancient Arochukwu Kingdom [[Special:Contributions/71.163.33.232|71.163.33.232]] ([[User talk:71.163.33.232|talk]]) 06:45, 14 May 2024 (UTC) |
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:See the talk page sections above this one. [[User:Celia Homeford|Celia Homeford]] ([[User talk:Celia Homeford|talk]]) 09:03, 14 May 2024 (UTC) |
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New Royal Title
Can someone update the biography for Meghan's new royal title, Her Royal Highness, Princess of Arochukwu, an ancient kingdom of Nigeria. Purplebrown43 (talk) 17:50, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
- They are not likely to update the title itself, since it is not official. They could write about the trip or write about her Nigerian fans and what popular title they may make for her but would need several solid sources. Alanscottwalker (talk) 20:46, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
- https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2024/05/13/africa/meghan-nigeria-tour-int-latam
- https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-13411201/amp/Meghan-Markle-Nigerias-new-princess.html
- among the titles listed in the news sources, you can see the word « omu » on the sash she was presented with. This is significant
- https://theafricanroyalfamilies.com/2023/08/04/the-omu-of-nigeria-tradition/ Phalangela (talk) 07:11, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
- Only the CNN news story counts as a Wikipedia:Reliable source, and CNN doesn't mention this supposed title. Celia Homeford (talk) 09:05, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
@Celia Homeford: I found this article by Premium Times that gives a detailed account of her visit. It mentions suggested Nigerian names for the Duchess, but I don't see anything about being bestowed a chieftancy's title. -- Willthacheerleader18 (talk) 13:29, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
Here's an article, [2] apart from some interesting digs at the Daily Mail, it explains that she was bestowed the title "Ada Mazi", which translates as 'daughter of aristocrat', in a "naming ceremony" in which three chief's participated. Alanscottwalker (talk) 15:42, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
- So the title apparently is Ada Mazi (trans. "daughter of an aristocrat"), Omu of Arochukwu if we were to accept Daily Mirror as a source. And the person who bestowed it upon her was Eberechukwu Oji (Eze Aro of Arochukwu), in the presence of Alfred Achebe (Obi of Onitsha) and Ogiame Atuwatse III (Olu of Warri) (p.s. Oba Abdulrosheed Akanbi (Oluwo of Iwo) apparently gave her some gifts per this source but was not there for the conferring of title I guess). If the community agrees on the reliability of sources and its relevance, it can be added under the "titles and styles" section, but it should also be noted that titles of this nature are not among the national honours of the Federal Republic of Nigeria but more likely bestowed by the local chieftaincy system. Keivan.fTalk 20:19, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
- Ada Mazi means “the daughter of the Igbo ancestral palace”. Unless you don’t consider Nigerian Kings to be Kings? 142.197.97.26 (talk) 21:36, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
- I'm sorry. But we'll go with what the sources say and none of them have included the translation you are suggesting here. Keivan.fTalk 21:49, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Keivan.f: I am all for adding the Nigerian traditional title/honours so long as we feel the source is credible. -- Willthacheerleader18 (talk) 01:47, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
- I'm sorry. But we'll go with what the sources say and none of them have included the translation you are suggesting here. Keivan.fTalk 21:49, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
- Ada Mazi means “the daughter of the Igbo ancestral palace”. Unless you don’t consider Nigerian Kings to be Kings? 142.197.97.26 (talk) 21:36, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
- Support @Keivan.f: I found a more credible source. This article by CNN states "The Obi of Onitsha, His Majesty Igwe Nnaemeka Alfred Ugochukwu Achebe christened Meghan “Ada Mazi,” which means “the daughter of the Igbo ancestral palace". While, the Oluwo of Iwoland, southwest, Nigeria, Oba Abdulrasheed Adewale Akanbi christened her with the Yoruba name of “Adetokunbo” which means “royalty from across the seas." -- Willthacheerleader18 (talk) 01:50, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Willthacheerleader18: That's a much better source. And this is not the first time a member of a European royal house has been given titles by foreigners (ex. List of titles and honours of Charles III#Other/Unofficial). We can add this under the "titles and styles" section now. Keivan.fTalk 03:34, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
Add her new title
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
There are literal physical evidence in her title ceremony. 142.197.97.26 (talk) 23:04, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
- @142.197.97.26: What title are you referring to? I'm assuming you're not talking about Duchess of Sussex, Countess of Dumbarton, or Baroness Kilkeel. -- Willthacheerleader18 (talk) 23:10, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
- Omu, Ada Mazi of the Ancient Arochukwu Kingdom Phalangela (talk) 07:12, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 9 July 2024
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In the introduction, I propose adding a new line informing readers of her latest polled popularity among Royals. Meghan's popularity has fallen from well over 50% to just 30% in recent years. It would be biased not to inform readers of this substantial factual change. This is not intended to slander, but rather to inform factually of a significant change.
Propose adding:
Meghan's popularity among the UK public has declined significantly in recent years, according to opinion polls, where she now regularly ranks among the least popular members of the British Royal Family.
https://yougov.co.uk/ratings/politics/popularity/royalty/all Bhav92 (talk) 13:41, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
- The article reads "In December 2022, Meghan was found to be the second most disliked member of the British royal family". It seems in June 2024, according to your yougov source, she is the third most disliked. I'm not seeing where in the source it supports the claim that her popularity has declined. I can only see that it supports she is currently one of the less popular royals. DrKay (talk) 09:34, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{Edit semi-protected}}
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The article American Riviera Orchard has been created and should be linked. --Greens vs. Blacks (talk) 14:56, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
Erledigt PianoDan (talk) 17:28, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 11 July 2024
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Megan Markle is a former member of the royal family. She is no longer apart of the royal family. 2603:8001:4700:A893:F152:8286:F06B:70F9 (talk) 05:04, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
- Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the
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template. Please also provide reliable sources that support your proposed edit. Aoi (青い) (talk) 06:57, 11 July 2024 (UTC) - The official website says otherwise. Keivan.fTalk 15:57, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
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