Talk:Loch Ness Monster/Archive 2

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I saw the "monster" in 1967 in company with several other people. The theory which best fits the facts that I saw is the passage of a small boat or boats in still early morning weather conditions conducive to mirage formation. The monster certainly left a large wake behind it -- fully as large as the fishing trawlers which passed along the loch later that day, so I think that seals can be ruled out. So although I have seen the "monster", I don't believe in it. However the rest of the party are still convinced that it was an animal or group of animals. -- Derek Ross

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The monster isn't that significant to the local economy. People visit Loch Ness for many other reasons apart from the monster. Inverness is the fastest growing city in the UK and that's not because of the monster. And after all Loch Ness is one of the biggest Scottish lochs and part of the Caledonian Canal and very scenic/atmospheric in its own right. If you compare the number of hotels, boating operators, etc. to the number which can be found at other scenic Scottish lochs without monsters, such as Loch Lomond or Loch Tay, you will find that they have similar numbers of hotels, museums on noteworthy local subjects, etc., so I'm toning down that paragraph. -- Derek Ross

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Plesiosaur vertebrae found at the edge of Loch Ness - http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2003321970,00.html -- Jim Regan 03:15 16 Jul 2003 (UTC)

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However, many other photographs were taken by others, and some have been authenticated by independent sources as untampered-with images (Wilson's famous photo was also not tampered with). All show a similar image of what appears to be a large creature with a long neck, usually photographed from a considerable distance. (Video 'evidence' has also been produced, though as much of it is out of focus, its reliability is questioned.) A film crew in August 1997 recorded some sort of 'fast object' moving rapidly across the loch.

A television documentary in the 1990s broadcast in Britain sought to find 'Nessie'. Though the film crew recorded for a number of weeks, no 'monster' was found. However, sonar equipment brought by the film makers and scientists and which was used to scan every inch of the loch to 'disprove' Nessie's existence, did show some movement of a large body at the lowest depths of the lake. Scientists admitted themselves puzzled as to the sonar readings, which suggested that something was in the lake. But what that something was remains a mystery, though one scientist involved in the programme indicated that, having started off believing there was nothing in the loch and that the 'monster' was just a 'tourist gimmick', he left believing that something is there, and that it seems to be some form of exceptionally large mammal able to swim at surprisingly low levels.

Blech. Wikipedia is not a yellow press publication. Provide sources and exact citations, please. --Eloquence 12:59 16 Jul 2003 (UTC)

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What, nothing about Nessiteras Rhombopteryx????????????

Added. Andy G 18:56, 29 Aug 2003 (UTC)

But failed to note that it's an anagram of monster hoax by Sir Peter S

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Most of this article's edit history as been lost because of a "cut'n'paste" move from "Loch Ness monster" in July 2003. Can anyone put it back together again ? -- Derek Ross 01:03, 21 Jan 2004 (UTC)

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Not sure I see any benefit of the link to http://www.lochness.co.uk/nessie2000/netwarning.html as the addition of Nessiteras Rhombopteryx was retrospective ... --VampWillow 18:11, 11 Jun 2004 (UTC)

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Are we sure Nessiteras Rhombopteryx was ever added to any official list? I suspect not (and changed the phrasing to leave that point open - evidence anyone?). The link to http://www.lochness.co.uk/nessie2000/netwarning.html is because it says that around 2000 ”the authorites” said that Nessie would be protected under 1912 and 1966 legislation - not anything dating from the time of Scott and Rhines. Andy G 18:18, 14 Jun 2004 (UTC)

...Although I suppose a name could have been added to a list that the earlier legislation referred to. I guess that was your pont, sorry. I still doubt whether it is really on any oficial list. Andy G 18:23, 14 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Are we sure about the link to truthaboutlochness.com? I looked at the site and suspect it's a bit of viral marketing and/or an amateur "blair witch". Ian 15:13, 26 Jul 2004 (UTC)

I see what you mean. It's not directly about the monster or Loch Ness, is it ? -- Derek Ross | Talk 19:45, 2004 Jul 26 (UTC)

It doesn't promote either the exists/not-exists POV, nor does it shed any further light on the issue: it just confuses everything, and I think it does so deliberately. I'll pull the link - if anyone disagrees then revert it. Ian 15:03, 27 Jul 2004 (UTC)

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I thought the peter scott flipper was proved to be false. Can't remember the exact details but I'm sure I read something about somebody discovering something about the photograph