Talk:Allison Cameron

Flaws

I've noticed this article repeatedly being "corrected" when certain flaws of Cameron are mentioned. This article is a very, very pale imitation of the actual character in the show and will remain so as long as this stays the same. The rest of the characters of House's wikis are riddled with their weaknesses, yet this one is somehow completely clean of any outside of her softy-wofty side, which is a really, a small fraction of her character. Cameron has flaws, and simply wiping her wiki article of them isn't going to change that.

At the very least "She has also occasionally shown extreme reluctance to relate bad news to patients or their family" should be re-worded so that it doesn't read as confirmation of the first sentence in that paragraph "Cameron is the most empathetic member of House's team and possesses the best bedside manner." No other character in the show views this as either a healthy or helpful tendency of Cameron's (ie it's empathetic but not a good bedside manner or good practice), and I believe that most real world medical professionals wouldn't either. Thayvian 21:58, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

Seriously, this page needs to be changed to show some faults she has. She stole confiscated meth from the hospital! She's caused significant pain to patients she doesn't like! Why is there nothing about that in the article? It talks about her co-workers' manipulations, but none of hers. But, what's the point of editing it if it's just going to be edited to say nothing bad about her? Waapplepie 02:28, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

A word weasel warning has been added until this is resolved. Anyone who has watched the show can recognize this is more or less a love letter to Cameron. Which would be fine if it portrayed an accurate version of the character at all. The Cameron written out here is a sickening Mary Sue. I'd rather not have to argue it, it seems obvious to me, but if anyone feels this is wrong, please, let's get to it.

Sex and Drugs

Was is it meth or ecstasy she took before engaging in sexual relations with Dr. Chase?

I believe that she was not on meth, but that she was on ecstasty. There was two types of drugs in the guy's bag - meth and ecstasy. Cameron, never having taken drugs before, would have most likely not have taken meth but have taken the ecstasy instead. My reasons for this are as such

- Cameron would see meth as much more trashy, eg. meth mouth, and never having taken drugs before, she would probably not choose meth as her fist choice. And also, meth would require that she chop it up and snort it up her nose or shoot it up, something she probably wouldn't do as her first experience with drugs, while ecstasy is just a pill you swallow

- Chase immediatly recognizes that her eyes are dialated which is stereotypical of ecstasy use

- While meth is used as a sexual stimulant, it is normally not the precipating factor that leads to sex but instead as an enhancer to prolong the intercourse; ecstasy on the other hand, is typically percieved as causing someone to become overwhelmed by the desire to love

It has been a while from when I saw the episode, but while I was watching I thought she was obviously on ecstasy. I might have missed something but I fairly sure it was ecstasy. Jdw052 06:45, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

Just watched the episode again - there was no mention of what she uses except a slightly cryptic line by Chase: "Well, coming off the meth helps." He could of course be wrong, but she doesn't correct him or anything. AllynJ 00:30, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

"Complex Surgical Machine"?

In 2.24, when he is showing "Harpo" the precision of the machine, he begins to undress Cameron. What was that machine called? --Ω 13:27, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

Switch with the main Allison Cameron Page?

Should this page be switched with the main Allison Cameron page? The other one is a stub that seems far less likely to be the result a person is searching for compared to this one. --Chad Hennings 02:40, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

I don't really think it matters as long as there is a disambig on the top of the page. Crazynas ^t 02:47, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

Actually Allison Cameron should be moved to Allison Cameron (composer) and a dab created. The is also a real Dr Allison Cameron who is a medical researcher and we should not assume that she will not merit an article in the future. Replacing a real real person at that name space with a fictional character should really be given a lot of thought. Vegaswikian 05:42, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

I moved the original Allison_Cameron to Allison Cameron (composer), and Allison_Cameron now redirects here. I tried finding any note of a real Dr. Allison Cameron, but nothing showed up on google ("Dr. Allison Cameron" -house). In the future, if such a person even exists, a page could be created but for now I'm just leaving the original page as a redirect. Chad Hennings 06:16, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

Googling ("Dr. Alison Cameron" -house) brings up the real doctor. It makes sense that the real doctor has the real first name and the fictional one has the misspelled name (Allison is a surname, Alison is a first name).

Photo needed

All the other House character bios have the stock photos (released by the studio). Someone needs to add Cameron's.Thegsrguy 16:41, 20 July 2006 (UTC)Dan

I added a photo from the same place the House photo is located --Chad Hennings 03:04, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

Yes, but you forgot the mandatory detailed fair-use rationale. Additionally, you were using the image on the article about Jennifer Morrison in violation of copyright. --Yamla 03:23, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

Shouldn't the fair use rationale be the same as was used for House, Foreman, Chase, etc? Most of the actors use the same image for character and actor as well, should those be removed or don't they all fall under the same fair use argument? --Chad Hennings 01:59, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

To add to what I said above, the bio page on the Fox website includes a bio about the actress with the picture, as well. --Chad Hennings 09:39, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

Tried to add a photo but then realized you can't unless you're a registered user. Oops :( The photo I found is at http://www.wvah.com/programs/house/jennifermorrison.jpg.

Mystic rather then Atheist

While it is true that Cameron has been called an atheist (and has even affirmed that, or if I remember correctly has not said anything against it), in the episode "Damned if you do" she said that she believes in a "higher order" of things. Hence, it would be more accurate to classify her as a mysitc instead of an atheist. While it is correct that mysticism and atheism are not mutually exclusive, the term atheist is more commonly used for someone who does not belief in any metaphysical guiding entities weather deity or higher order. In any case, since Cameron believes in a higher or of things, "mystic" is more precise than "atheist". So I move to change "-she is an atheist" to "-while having been called an atheist and having affirmed that, it is more precise to classify her as a mystic on the grounds that she stated that she believes in a "higher order" of things."

...with the references to the episode "Damned if you do" and one of those where she was called an atheist and affirmed that. -MikeB

I'd think I'd disagree with that. A "higher order" does not even really imply a spirit, force, or the supernatural. In theory a "higher order" could just mean some as yet undiscovered physical law or a romantic reverence for nature itself that's not mystical. If anyone who believes in "a higher order" is to be classed as something other than atheist than there are many actual atheist who'd have to be reclassified. (I think even Dawkins believes in a higher force than humanity, but this doesn't mean any rejection of philosophical naturalism) Unless she says she's a mystic, deist, or pantheist I'd say leave it as is.--T. Anthony 16:01, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

-Atheism is believing that people are the highest form of being. Cameron believes in something higher. I believe it would be more correct to call her agnostic.

Atheism is most certainly not the belief that people are the highest form of being. Atheism is the disbelief in the existence of deities. There's no specific requirement of disbelief in any higher creature, only that such could not be a deity. Similarly, agnosticism is the belief that deities are unknown or unknowable which again is not what Cameron claimed. --Yamla 23:44, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

She expressed opinions to that effect. She said there's no point thinking about the "Higher Order" because it would be like penguins thinking about nuclear physics. Undiscovered physical laws aren't beyond man's grasp. --194.125.35.13 15:59, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

She said IF there's a higher being. She's atheist. -- Simmysim (talk • contribs) 23:35, 12 March 2007 (UTC).

Definitely an atheist. I believe House had two categories: Fictional agnostics and fictional atheists. Maybe Cameron can have two categories as well. mirageinred 19:45, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

Love Theme?

• The music used in Cameron's resignation scene in season three is similar to the one used in the scene when House and Cameron shared a kiss , leading fans to speculate that the composition is the pair's love theme.

What? A "love theme"? First of all, really, it's complete speculation on the fans' part and it's not exactly unique in any regard to this character. The show recycles music all the time, just look at scenes with Chase and Cameron, it's the same music, too. The tidbit serves no purpose and isn't a cited fact.

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BetacommandBot 02:36, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Shortening the article

The article is too long, and has a in-universe perspective. The article, especially the relationships section, shouldn't be about what happens between Cameron and other characters episode-by-episode, so I focused on shortening the relationships section. By the way, for cite episode template, the date the episode aired should be cited like this: YYYY-MM-DD. mirageinred 15:26, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

Why Is Cameron More Important?

Why does Cameron have her own article when Chase, Foreman, Wilson, and Cuddy (all are just as notable as she is) don't? 68.183.182.214 01:52, 19 October 2007 (UTC) Why does Cameron have her own article when Foreman Chase Wilson and Cuddy, who are, arguably, just as o