Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Anthony Chidiac (2nd nomination)

Anthony Chidiac

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Vanispamcruftisement of a non-notable person. A guy who once appeared in a trade show demo, then started a cafe. The article attempts to hide the non-notability in flowery language (instead of "start a cafe", try Dilbert-esque "research and develop a concept to progress an integrated venue to cater for socializing in a convergence whateverthehell" — I kid you not.) Has himself (admitted) and a couple of other contributors (User:T3Smile, User:Rdpaperclip) who have no other editing interest than a Chidiac fetish spamming Wikipedia with the name of Chidiac and his business. Enough is enough methinks. Deleted once before after AfD. Weregerbil 18:26, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

• Kommentar I don't mean to be pedantic... just want to add my two cents... I think the last AfD was centered around the lack of proper sourcing and the cruft. This version looks like it has better sourcing. Some cruft is starting to creep back in. I agree that the Dilbert-esque language is a clean-up problem. -- Ben 18:36, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
  • Though if we clean up the language and name dropping, what is left? "Operated a DVD camcorder at a trade show and started a local coffee shop"...? Very little else in the article is sourced, including the "personal life" section, year of birth, number of children, place of residence. Even whether the DVD operator and the cafe-starter are the same Anthony Chidiac. The trouble with nn self-bios: thoroughly unverifiable. Weregerbil 18:54, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
    • I'm with you. The personal section is a recent addition and totally unsourced. It should probably be removed all at once because of WP:BLP concerns. From the DVD authoring he sounds pretty notable. I just don't know... and my comments are scattered and not very helpful. Thanks for your response, Weregerbil. I'm looking forward to seeing where this goes... -- Ben 19:46, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
• Delete. Despite being briefly in the news, there isn't a great deal of evidence of notability here. A thin case might be made for the compnay, Opulent, or its brand, TrendNET (and I guess there's evidence those articles may have existed in the past), but basically what we have is a guy who started a company with unproven notability. Accomplishment is not notability. Being a product demo or producer at an expo, even for Bill Gates, is not notability. --Dhartung | Talk 19:49, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
• Löschen per Dhartung. --Slartibartfast1992 23:13, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
• Weak keep as clearly notable (sorry, Dhartung, but accomplishments such as starting a new idea or a major company do count towards notability), but WP:BLP requires better sourcing. Bearian 01:35, 24 October 2007 (UTC) P.S. This article seems to better than when I first discussed it back in July. Bearian 01:37, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

• Comment I don't know what policy you're citing, Bearian. But even if such things did count, I see no evidence of either here. --Dhartung | Talk 02:19, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

• Keep running a camcorder at a trade show may not be notable, but using one to burn the first recordable DVD at Bill Gates keynote at comdex is another matter--Comdex is not just another trade show. The nternet cafe seems to have also some sources for notability. DGG (talk) 03:20, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

• Strong Keep Sorry guys, I stuffed up, and added a piece of personal life without quoting sources. Article is thoroughly resourced, comments taken from press articles and because it is short and sweet, is quite a powerful statement. All I was trying to do is to conform to WP:BIO. Guy is notaqble because he bought DVD Authoring under the 5k mark, making it consumer friendly and gave it mass-market appeal. Stop picking on this guy ok? There a a lot more articles on wiki that are thoroughly unresearched and have no supporting media to back up the claims. So, I deleted the "Personal Life" part and will only post material that I can post citations to. Thanks to all that support this article, its not about anything non-symbolic and Tracey just wrote it as it was claimed in the articles. No more, no less. Its just a stub, so that more information is compiled by others. People jusyt couldn't work on an article in someones userspace, and, as said before, there are far more articles on wikipedia with no newspaper articles or releases available, yet they are still online. Cheers.--Rdpaperclip 03:26, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

• comment - wasnt a camcorder - was a complete CBS crew that recorded event as a multi-camera show. In dolby surround 5.1 too. cheers. --Rdpaperclip 03:26, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

• Keep Really well put together stub, and great supporting evidence of such achievements. I would like to know more. I've seen worse written stubs without citations and they are still on wikipedia.--150.101.154.245 03:49, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
• Comment For the love of God... Please see WP:OTHERCRAPEXISTS. And to Rdpaperclip... what exactly did you delete from the article? -- Ben 03:54, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
• Comment Hi Ben. I was about to delete the offending addition to the article I placed yesterday when I found that someone else politely did so and hence helped out positively. This project is all about positivity, and leave God out of this, chidiac is not God. lol. Best regards to you Ben. --Rdpaperclip 04:03, 24 October 2007 (UTC)