Talk:California

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Etymology

The last sentence of the etymology section ends: "... at the bequest of Hernando Cortes." I believe "behest" is what we want here rather than bequest.

 Done TJRC (talk) 18:46, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

Religion section head paragraph.

I would like to propose a minor change to the ordering of the first paragraph in the Religion section. Mormonism has been listed as a Christian denomination, when it is not and is not recognized by most Christian denominations as part of Christianity. It is a separate religion and should be listed as such. It has a completely different concept of God to mainstream Christianityand is practiced in a radically different way. It is in fact a separate religion. My proposed re-order of content is as follows.

"The largest Christian denominations by number of adherents in 2000 were the Roman Catholic Church with 10,079,310; and the Southern Baptist Convention with 471,119. Jewish congregations had 994,000 adherents; and The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints had 529,575."doviel (talk) 14:42, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

This topic has been discussed numerous times on Wikipedia at various articles. The consensus is that The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is a Christian denomination, one of the restorationist Christian churches. Some individuals may not consider them Christian, but that is just one point of view. The original wording of this article is correct. Thanks, Alanraywiki (talk) 15:34, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

That same argument however would make Islaam a Christian denomination, as Islaam is probably much closer to Christianity and Judaism than Mormonism and it did shoot from Judaistic and Christian roots as well as others. Mormonism is an offshoot of Christianity, not Christianity itself.doviel (talk) 00:23, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

Please review what has already been discussed on Wikipedia about The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and Christianity, for example see #28 under Talk:The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints/Archive 13. The grouping of religions in the paragraph should remain as is. Alanraywiki (talk) 22:58, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

Elemental world/California history

I leave it to the semi-educated "editors" to figure out, and correct, what is wrong with the following preposterous statement

"The seat of government for California under Mexican rule was located at Monterey from 1777 until 1835, when Mexican authorities abandoned California..." —Preceding unsigned comment added by Geocrat (talk • contribs) 12:43, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

That seems to be poorly worded. The Monterey, California article states, "Monterey served as the capital of California from 1777 to 1849, under the flags of Spain and Mexico." so it seems that there is a discrepancy with the ending date between the two. I don't think it should say "abandoned"... its more like they were forced out. I'll just add a {{fact}} tag to it. Killiondude (talk) 18:50, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

Oh. The sentence is referenced... The Monterey, CA fact isn't... Killiondude (talk) 18:56, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

Full credit: Spain, the date, and "abandoned". And that wasn't just poor wording, it was just plain wrong. So now you're saying that you can't change anything because the sentence is referenced? That's all the more reason to correct it! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.15.122.236 (talk) 03:30, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

That's not what I meant. Provide a reference and a new statement and I can make the changes. Right now I don't have time to pursue it. Killiondude (talk) 03:48, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

Just log in, and fix it yourself? Thanks South Bay (talk) 02:33, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

Maine?

Why does the article state that "California is the second-largest U.S. state by land area after Alaska and Texas, and preceding Maine." Maine? Since when was Maine the fourth largest U.S. state by any measure? I'm just a little confused. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Riverside04 (talk • contribs) 15:25, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

It was vandalism. It was intended to say Montana, and was reverted just around the time you posted your comment here. Killiondude (talk) 16:25, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

ANYONE KNOW OF PLANS TO SPLIT CALIFORNIA? NORTH AND SOUTH?

Hi here in SoCal (Soputhern Cailfornia) suppossely a plan has been put forward for a new Statre Soputhern California Called "Coastal california" yet nothing on any web serach anyone know of this idea? ThanksTeslaguy (talk) 01:53, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

There have been talks of splitting the state in two for many years, and several proposals in the state legislature (though they've gone nowhere). A simple Google search for 'splitting California' or something similar will give you plenty of information. As an aside, please do not type in all caps, as it is considered rude. Best, faithless (^speak) 03:49, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

Ok why no mention of Splitting California into two states in article?

Liked to know more about the past and present? plans to split California into two States Northern California and Southern California. Why doesnt article on California mentuion the ';differences' pokliticaly and attiude wise between the more somber Northern California and the Laid back Southern California? Thanks! Andreisme (talk) 18:32, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

Currently, there is no such plan under serious consideration. When the "State of Jefferson movement" is mentioned in reliable sources (which is rare), it is in the context of portraying a small fringe group. They're not really notable enough for inclusion in a much larger general article about California. --Loonymonkey (talk) 01:25, 6 April 2009 (UTC)