User talk:Rosameliamartinez

Welcome! Hello, Rosameliamartinez, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are a few good links for newcomers: The five pillars of Wikipedia How to edit a page Help pages Tutorial How to write a great article Manual of Style I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Please sign your name on talk pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically produce your name and the date. If you need help, check out Wikipedia:Where to ask a question, ask me on my talk page, or place {{helpme}} on your talk page and someone will show up shortly to answer your questions. Again, welcome!  Karmafist 01:02, 22 November 2005 (UTC) Il Divo Page Hi Rosa! How are you? Check out the history of the page... some anonymous user put in "xxx i luv" next to one of the albums (I deleted it and put a message on their page about it). One other thing you should know is that I had put a tentative question about the classification "Italian group" on the talk page and somebody actually went in and changed it. I just wanted you to know that it wasn't me, I was going to wait and see what you had to say. Hope everything's going well! :-) Danypo 21:15, 25 January 2006 (UTC) Re: Il Divo (again) An edit-out... I went. I saw. I am in la-la land! :-) Danypo Il Divo pictures now... Hi Rosa! So glad you liked the report. I'm just volunteering... if you want to use any of my pictures (the non-blurry ones, *lol*) for the guys' individual pages, feel free to take 'em. :-) Danypo 21:39, 3 February 2006 (UTC) Question Can I ask what your scheme is with the pages about Dave Miller? I reverted one that looked like page blanking and want to make sure I know what's going on so I don't screw something up. Thanx 68.39.174.238 05:05, 25 November 2005 (UTC) This message is regarding the page David Miller (singer). Please stop. If you continue to vandalize pages, you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia. Please note that unexplained page moves and blanking are also considered vandalism. --Nlu 05:20, 25 November 2005 (UTC) Regarding the page David Miller (singer), and for any future RC-patrollers, I do not believe the edits in question were intended to be vandalism. See Rosameliamartinez's comment here. Cheers. --PeruvianLlama(spit) 05:26, 25 November 2005 (UTC) WRT David Miller When 2 or more people have the same name and the level of notability isn't drastically different (EG. George Washington will probably always be about the historical figure, and anyone new with that name whould get something like George Washington (playwright)) what ususally happens is the main page (David Miller) becomes a disambiguation page which then lists everyone with that name and who they are and the people themselves get pages like David Miller (singer) and David Miller (politician). 68.39.174.238 05:23, 25 November 2005 (UTC) PS. Don't worry too much about the warning above. We get a little jumpy @ times. If you do get one, just ask the warn-er what looked suspiscious to them and why you think it was legitimate. David Miller disambiguation page If you want David Miller to be a disambiguation page, I suggest you move the page that's there now to David Miller (singer) and then change that page to redirect to David Miller (disambiguation). 68.39.174.238 05:32, 25 November 2005 (UTC) PS. When you're talking on someones talk page, add 4 ~s at the end so people can easily see your username and talk page. It's also the second button from the left at the top of the window you type stuff in (Whatever its official name is). David Miller page duplication If the 2 pages (David Miller and David Miller (singer)) are the same, replace David Miller with "#REDIRECT David Miller (disambiguation)" and then edit the disambiguation page so that when someone clicks on the singer, they go to David Miller (singer). Hope that makes sense. 68.39.174.238 05:52, 25 November 2005 (UTC) Sorry I was ambiguous there, I meant edit the articel David Miller and replace ALL its contents with "#REDIRCT David Miller (disambiguation), and then change David Miller to David Miller (singer) on the disambiguation page. 68.39.174.238 06:14, 25 November 2005 (UTC) OK I didn't realize that [[]]s don't show up normally. If you want to redirect you have to use [[]]s to link to the page to go to. So it should be #REDIRECT [[David Miller (singer)]] to get it to work right. Also, when you've gotten the pages worked out, don't forget to check and make sure that all the "Talk" pages are set up correctly (EG. Not containing the comments for a different page or redirecting to some other page). Thanx again 68.39.174.238 06:21, 25 November 2005 (UTC) One last thing Whenever you're doing a major edit or especially a page move, I STRONGLY suggest you make some relevant comment in the "Edit summary:" area as to what you're doing and/or why. If someone sees an edit or move with a understandable, grammatical and clearly spelled edit summary that give it (And by extention you) a MUCH higher feeling legitimacy from the initial contact, as opposed to vandals who rarely make good comments. 68.39.174.238 06:43, 25 November 2005 (UTC) ;D! Don't worry, the whole point of User talk: pages is to talk! So long as whatever's there isn't egregious you can do about whatever (Just be carefull about deleting stuff on there to clear it up). Anyway, the time difference is atrocious here so I'm going to sleep. I'll be back on tomorrow or the day after @ the latest if you want to say something else ;D 68.39.174.238 07:20, 25 November 2005 (UTC) Re: Il Divo Hi there: sorry, I had no idea how to get in touch with you (just logged on by chance) and I hope this works and that you get it. Did you redo the Il Divo page? It looks great, and there's so much more information! Having the album pictures is wonderful too. My only question would be if we could possibly downsize them just a little so they don't stretch the page, but this is not a big deal at all. As to the duplicate David Millers, *lol*, yes, this happened to me too. I went in and fixed it for you, I hope that's okay. If I put the code right here, it converts it, so you want 2 of these ([) and then put David Miller, |, (singer), David Miller, and then 2 more of these (]). Just take out the spaces and commas. Sorry about that. Don't ask me why because I have no idea, but this will link you to the Il Divo guy instead of the other one. As to pictures, I'm afraid I can't help you. I'm new to Wikipedia myself and the only thing I could suggest is using a picture that you yourself have taken? Is that violating copyrights? I wouldn't think so, but then again I'm new. Danypo 15:55, 28 November 2005 (UTC) You _do_ have an account Account is what you get when you register. --tyomitch 19:53, 29 November 2005 (UTC) Reply Vandalism is generally associated with any counterproductive action on a page, despite its actuall definition (Connotation v. Denotation). Also, some vandals will try and sneak their attacks through as newbie-tests to see what happens. Also, page moves (Which is what you got "caught" with) are extremely closely watched, thanx to this dude. User tests (Adding minor text in non-sandboxes) generally gets warned with {{test1}} which tries to convey a sense that the first "infraction" was just a possible misunderstanding and there are places to do test edits. However some edits that are borderline (EG. Section-blanking with no edit comment) generally depend on the user reverting/warning and the page's history (EG. A possibly vandalistic edit to Vincente Fox is generally less likely to be purposeful vandalism then one to Hugo Chavez (Which is surprisingly rarely vandalised though) or George W. Bush (Which is under constant attack)). My "vandalism" warnings were mostly mistakes, I reverted another IPs' vandalisms and the warn-er got the two mistaken (Which is very easy to do if the vandal was using Comcast also). I don't entirely understand people's asking me to get an account either. There are advantages, however the precise reason seems to vary from person to person and I occasionally get snatches and glimpses of the individual reasons. The other 2 got answered above. The "barnstars" are generally randomly given, although some require certain circumstances (IE. You have to do major work on getting an articel to "Featured" (IE. Really good) status to get that award. Other then that if someone thinks you're doing a really good job @ something they'll give it to you. If you see something that someone did that you really really like you can find the appropraite one and slap it on their usr(talk) page(s) with a comment. Unless you really go wild with them I don't think you can get censured for awarding them. Full infos: Wikipedia:Barnstars. I whouldn't make too concerted an effort to guess, it's not a too terribly common name (Except possibly for my middle name). 68.39.174.238 21:50, 29 November 2005 (UTC) WRT the smilie-barnstar I return with the "Excellent newbie award" for your quickly getting up to speed on wide issues 68.39.174.238 07:28, 30 November 2005 (UTC) PLs image vandalisms It got reverted. I have to say, MSpaint is NOT subtle @ all... 68.39.174.238 06:35, 1 December 2005 (UTC) Administrators, like all people of power, make enemies without really trying, ∴ people who try (By reverting vandalisms, which is what he does) get enemies like crazzy. Some go far enough to do that. That particular usr has been blocked for about a day for doing crap like that. I suspect he'll be blocked indefinately within the week for nothing but vandalisms. 68.39.174.238 06:53, 1 December 2005 (UTC) (Glad you remembered to sign ;D) Admin? Who's an admin? But "person of power", I like the sound of that. Mmm... I'd like to self-nominate for RfPoP, please! But yes, the vandals tend to get cranky when you revert their cleverness, like "LOLOMGZ PWNT!!!1" or "George Bush is a dick!!", or what have you. But such is the beauty of a Wiki; that no matter how nasty, no matter how determined, and no matter how angry the vandals, all of it can always be undone. --PeruvianLlama(spit) 07:06, 1 December 2005 (UTC) ¡Hola Peruvianllama! I was just visiting and I saw someone had vandalized your head shot and had written something nasty so I deleted the image since I don't know how to return it to the original...Rosameliamartinez 06:33, 1 December 2005 (UTC) Thanks Rosa! I really appreciate it - and yeah, a couple people let me know (through outside-the-Wiki channels) that it had been vandalized, so I reverted the image to its rightful state shortly thereafter. To turn this into a learning experience.. (*grin*) .. you can revert images in much the same way that you revert articles. Check out the history for my "head shot" here [1], and by clicking on one of the "rev" links next to each version, you can revert the image to that older copy. To preview an older copy, click on the date/time (same as with an article when looking at its edit history). And while I'm here, thanks for the wikithanks/flower the other day! 'Twas very kind of you. If I can ever be of any other assistance, do leave me a message. Cheers! --PeruvianLlama(spit) 07:02, 1 December 2005 (UTC) Hola, thanks for the advice. I do need your assistance with this little strange question. How many people does it take to revert a vandalized pic to its original?Rosameliamartinez 07:20, 1 December 2005 (UTC) Is this like "How many Wikipedians does it take to screw in a light bulb"?  ;) --PeruvianLlama(spit) 07:33, 1 December 2005 (UTC) No, it wasn't meant to be a joke lol it was just something I noticed...BTW, is there really a comic answer to how many wikipedians does it take to screw a lightbulb? Rosameliamartinez 07:37, 1 December 2005 (UTC) If there is I'd say 3...one to screw the light bulb, one to vandalize the light bulb and one to revert it to its original lolRosameliamartinez 07:38, 1 December 2005 (UTC) LOL! Nicely put!  ;) I don't think there was a joke before, but there certainly is now! To answer your question then, it only takes one person. If you wanted to revert the image right now to the previously vandalized version, you could (but don't :P ). Changing content on Wikipedia can always be done by anyone; the only actions that are limited to admins are those that involve removing content, like deleting an article or blocking another user. --PeruvianLlama(spit) 08:35, 1 December 2005 (UTC) Oh, I saw you said something about being a "RfPoP" in my talk...what's that?Rosameliamartinez 07:33, 1 December 2005 (UTC) Ah, that was a bit of a joke as well. To become an administrator on Wikipedia, you have to go through this process called "Requests for Adminship" (commonly abbreviated as RfA). You can either nominate yourself, or someone else nominates you (often with your permission), and then the community at large can vote Support or Oppose. The process lasts a week (I think), and then at the end if you have a majority of Support votes (75%-80%, or greater) you are made an admin, with all the rights and priveleges thereof. So when 68.39.174.238 mentioned "Person of Power" alongside adminship, I was changing RfA to RfPoP. --PeruvianLlama(spit) 08:35, 1 December 2005 (UTC) Ohhh...RfPOP lol. When you say 70% or 80% in support that's a total of how many people more or less? I mean, I know a lot of people browse through wikipedia, but how many have to vote for you to become an administrator? Also...are people allowed to publish stuff in wikipedia that can be found elsewhere?...news etc...I think I found an article about a colombian festival and I recognized where it came from...does it matter if the author has copyright or not?Rosameliamartinez 08:50, 1 December 2005 (UTC) No, sorry, not 75-80% of the entire population - just 75-80% out of the people who voted (either Support, Neutral/Comment or Oppose). I'm not sure if there is a minimum number of people that are required to vote, but I haven't seen many with fewer than 20ish people, and some will get 30, 40, a very few even up to 100. How it all works is outlined in the intro section on the RfA page. As for publishing stuff that can be found elsewhere, well, yes and no. You can't copy something verbatim from another copyrighted source. You can however, rewrite the content in your own words, and submit that to Wikipedia, so long as you credit your source. If you think you've found an article that violates copyrighted content, you can read what to do about it here. If you need a hand, let me know! Cheers. --PeruvianLlama(spit) 04:39, 2 December 2005 (UTC) Vallenato Legend Festival article About the colombian festival ( Vallenato Legend Festival is the name of the article), the person had just taken what it said in the official website in spanish and translated it; what tipped me off was the fact that some fairly complex phrases (normally used by spanish speaking journalists) were used but the translation was soooo moronic...it obviously had to be an unskilled writer translating something done by a skilled one...and trust me, it wasn't rewriten, it was (or tried to be) word by word, the result being pretty awkward. I just deleted it and explained in the edit summary and the discussion, giving the link to where exactly to find the article...Rosameliamartinez 08:53, 2 December 2005 (UTC) Actually, you "blanked" the article, as opposed to "deleting" it (only admins can do the latter). And blank pages are almost always discouraged on Wikipedia. I'm not exactly sure on the policy for copyright across languages, but I don't think they hold - so whoever holds the copyright, probably only holds it for the original (Spanish) version. In the future, if you find copyrighted text (copied verbatim from a website, for example) you can follow the procedures outlined here. But for this specific article, since you clearly speak both, why not re-translate it yourself? It certainly won't be any worse off than it was before! :) The main thing is that the article isn't left blank; if you feel it needs to be cleaned up, but don't have the time to do it youself, you can add this tag to the top of the page: {{cleanup-date|December 2005}} That will flag it as needing attention from an editor, and hopefully someone will get to it before too long. Cheers! --PeruvianLlama(spit) 09:04, 2 December 2005 (UTC) Really odd Depends on your definition of "odd". I have some strange/unusuall things, but they're crap like the Alabama State Constitution or the Pennsylvania State Board of Censors. There's a page for things that some people think are odd (Wikipedia:Unusual articles), what exactly were you wanting with "odd" ? 68.39.174.238 02:35, 3 December 2005 (UTC) Do you have any infos on the city? Some cursory Googling didn't turn anything up but LaRouche crap! Anyway, it sounds like Berwick-upon-Tweed, except that's in England not Colombia. I suspect there's a list of strange wars out there/here somewhere, and I'll try and find it. 68.39.174.238 03:05, 3 December 2005 (UTC) PS. Minor English note, the phrase is "declared war ON [Whatever country])" although occasionally you'll see "declared war against [them]". <barging in> I think you mean the city of Huéscar, which as it happens is Spanish, not Colombian.</barging out>--Pharos 05:01, 3 December 2005 (UTC) I don't know, did they? My Spanish is extremely limited so I can't tell if that page says they did. As to Uncyclopedia, I've done some stuff awhile ago. Anything from Comcast's IP block (68.) is possibly mine. Uncyclopedia:Zork I seem to recall doing some stuff for back when you couldn't get beyond the teleporter and it didn't have that black background (Wow that place has changed...). 68.39.174.238 02:34, 4 December 2005 (UTC) Image copyright problem with Image:Carlosbellaybestia.jpg Thanks for uploading Image:Carlosbellaybestia.jpg. However, the image may soon be deleted unless we can determine the copyright holder and copyright status. The Wikimedia Foundation is very careful about the images included in Wikipedia because of copyright law (see Wikipedia's Copyright policy). The copyright holder is usually the creator, the creator's employer, or the last person who was transferred ownership rights. Copyright information on images on Wikipedia is signified using copyright templates. The three basic license types on Wikipedia are open content, public domain, and fair use. Find the appropriate template in Wikipedia:Image copyright tags and place it on the image page like this: {{TemplateName}}. Please signify the copyright information on any other images you have uploaded or will upload. Remember that images without this important information can be deleted by an administrator. You can get help on image copyright tagging from Wikipedia talk:Image copyright tags. --OrphanBot 08:56, 21 January 2006 (UTC) ¡Hola! Please delete the image. The thing is I uploaded some images to Wikipedia before being aware of the copyright regulations here.Rosameliamartinez 02:59, 23 January 2006 (UTC) Something strange with Urs's page Hi Rosa... Danielle here... can you get in touch with me? There's something funny going on over at Urs's page. ??? :-) Danypo 19:49, 9 March 2006 (UTC) Hey Rosa! How are you? Yes, I don't know what's up with the board. It was cutting in and out yesterday and is completely unreachable today. :-(, I don't know when it's getting back up. Actually, my bad, the blurb was on the Il Divo main page and was "urs would like to thank his girlfriend Monique Wuttunee for all her support. Much love". I took a look at the person's other edits and I think it was just a gag but interesting all the same... Danielle xo Danypo 18:28, 11 March 2006 (UTC) Rosa... I don't know if you got my PM (it may have dropped) but wanted to thank you SOOOO much for the userbox/barnstar (also I've joined Esperanza and we'll see what happens there...). They are so much appreciated. Take care of yURSelf! :-) xoxo Danypo 21:01, 16 March 2006 (UTC) Re: ¡Hola! I wish I could help you, but I don't have any experience with userboxes, so I don't really have any idea how to make one. But you could try looking at the userbox guide or ask someone whos more familiar with userboxes. --Y.Ichiro (会話|+|投稿記録|メール) 06:37, 12 March 2006 (UTC) ¡Hola! I just saw you were editing now and you seem to have a bit more experience than me here...so I was wondering if you could help me with a problem I have while creating a userbox...Rosameliamartinez 06:28, 12 March 2006 (UTC) Glad to be of any help...what problems do you have while creating a userbox? I'll try to guide you in any way. =D Jumping cheese 06:38, 12 March 2006 (UTC) I've never created a custom userbox, but I found this article: Wikipedia:Template substitution. If that can't help, then I have no other ideas! Sorry for the weak advice... =/ Jumping cheese 06:56, 12 March 2006 (UTC) You could ask me (on my talk page) if you wish and I'll see what I can do. I can also help you rearrange your userboxes (on your userpage) if you'd like (unless you prefer them like that) :) - File:Ottawa flag.png nathanrdotcom (T • C • W) 00:22, 17 March 2006 (UTC) Weeee! You're back! I'd wondered where you went. Glad to have (indirectly) helped build a better pagegroup (On something I know nothing about, amazzingly) and thanx for the barnstar ;D! 68.39.174.238 13:34, 12 March 2006 (UTC) Most of it's been minor and maintenence, also helping another newbie-mistaken-for-a-vandal get up and going. 68.39.174.238 14:01, 12 March 2006 (UTC) That was because someone moved a number of pages many people had linked to on my talk page. They then decided to delete all the redirects (¡!) and go through and fix the links. It took soo many times that I would get bombarded with "You have new messages" and it would just be that... 68.39.174.238 14:09, 12 March 2006 (UTC) Fixed English Stanzas III and on had spurious "|"'s at their beginning. 68.39.174.238 23:34, 14 March 2006 (UTC) Welcome to Esperanza! Welcome, Rosameliamartinez, to Esperanza, the Wikipedia member association! As you might know, all the Esperanzians share one important goal: the success of this encyclopedia. Within that, we then attempt to strengthen the community bonds, and be the "approachable" side of the project. All of our ideals are held in the Charter, the governing document of the association. Now that you are a member you should read the guide to what to do now or you may be interested in some of our programs. A quite important program is the StressUnit, which seeks to support editors who have encountered any stress from their Wikipedia events, and are seeking to leave the project. So far, Esperanza can be credited with the support and retention of several users. Redwolf24 runs the spam to keep members up to date. Also, we have a calendar of special events, member birthdays, and other holidays that you can add to and follow. In addition to these projects, several more missions of Esperanza are in development, and are currently being created at Esperanza/Possibles. I encourage you to take an active voice in the running of Esperanza. We have a small government system, headed by our Administrator general, Celestianpower, and guided by the Advisory Committee comprised of KnowledgeOfSelf, JoanneB, FireFox and Titoxd. The next set of elections will be in February, and I would be glad to see you vote, or even consider running for a position. If you have any other questions, concerns, comments, or general ideas, Esperanzian or otherwise, know that you can always contact Celestianpower by email or talk page or the Esperanza talk page. Alternatively, you could communicate with fellow users via our IRC channel, #wikipedia-esperanza (which is also good for a fun chat or two :). I thank you for joining Esperanza, and look forward to working with you in making Wikipedia a better place to work! ➨ ❝REDVERS❞ 19:40, 15 March 2006 (UTC) You're right! I didn't notice that it had drifted! I'll get on to changing it. Thanks v much for letting me know! ➨ ❝REDVERS❞ 20:02, 15 March 2006 (UTC) I'd like to welcome you as well. - File:Ottawa flag.png nathanrdotcom (T • C • W) 00:21, 17 March 2006 (UTC) How to stop vandals "Hola, I figure this is a common question but, asides from treating vandals nicely and reverting vandalism...is there any coercitive way from stopping a user from vandalizing? I mean, see all of user's 217.127.192.219 "contributions"." Administrators have the ability to block a user or IP from editing, which makes them unable to edit pages. However blocked users can still read pages and edit their talk page. If a registered user is blocked the IP address of that user will be automatically blocked for 24 hours. There is a log of blocks here. Adminstrators can also protect or semiprotect a page, to prevent all users(if the page is protected) or only users who have been registered a while ago(if the page is semi-protected). Happy editing! Prodego talk 01:15, 18 March 2006 (UTC) HEY! Talk page spies! Anyway, yea the most common method of coercion is to just block them if they don't stop. Most will get bored. A few are persistant. Occasionally they get so bad they get referred to their ISP (Which usually goes nowhere because ISPs listen to about 1 * 10^-6 complaints and investigate and respond to even fewer. As to that IP, I left a note on their talk page. 68.39.174.238 03:39, 18 March 2006 (UTC) (PS. You have to add a "User:" space prefix to IPs when linking to them) Barnstar thanks Wow, my retinas might not recover from the colour of this talk page.. ;) I stopped by to thank you for the barnstar, it was very thoughtful of you! I took a week or two off from the Wiki, so when I got back your message had been pushed back a bit; hence my late reply. As for the ro: thing that people are writing in articles, I assume that they are linking to the article's translation on a different language Wiki. And as for the "llama" name, no, it has nothing to do with Mr. Neutron - I had the name long before he was around! Cheers. --PeruvianLlama(spit) 09:39, 18 March 2006 (UTC) Wikimedia Colombia ¡Hola! Mira esta vaina que me llegó a mi página de discusión en es: Desde hace un tiempo he venido cabilando con la idea de fundar un capítulo Colombiano de la Wikimedia Foundation, y para esto necesito de los comentarios y de la ayuda de los posibles interesados. La idea del capítulo es formar una organización sin ánimo de lucro dentro de la legislación colombiana. Muy probablemente una Fundación sea el tipo de entidad más acorde a los objetivos planteados. La invitación es para inscribir su nombre en la página de la propuesta sin ningún compromiso. También recibo comenentarios allá o en mi página de discusión sobre cualquier inquietud que tenga lugar. En la página de la propuesta también se podrá encontrar un borrador de los posibles estatutos de la Fundación, los objetivos planteados, etc. y está abierta a cualquier tipo de contribuciones e inquietudes. Las ideas incluyen desde la canalización de fondos para la Wikimedia Foundation (los found raisings) hasta varios proyectos de promoción del conocimiento libre en Colombia (tanto por medio de los proyectos de Wikimedia, como por otros proyectos basados o no en tecnologías Wiki). Sin duda un objetivo interesante será la promoción de las lenguas indígenas colombianas con el objetivo adicional de empoderar a las culturas que las hablan de herramientas informáticas que no sean percibidas como alienantes. Si conoce de algún otro colombiano que pueda estar interesado, no sólo wikipedistas o colaboradores de Wikimedia, agradezco la difución de este mensaje. Gracias por la atención. — Carlos Th 19:02 9 mar 2006 (CET) Pensé que te podría interesar. Saludos, --Fibonacci 21:34, 19 March 2006 (UTC) Bien, te reitero la invitación que te hace Fibo. Esperamos que puedas colaborar con el proyecto. — Carlos Th (talk) 17:22, 21 March 2006 (UTC) Health hazard. Please go to this page and tell me what shade you want. Re vandalism, I wouldn't even try to vandalize someone's page because I know what would happen. — File:Ottawa flag.png nathanrdotcom (T • C • W) 00:19, 21 March 2006 (UTC)