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I just noticed [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Sentence_length_%28Linguistics%29 this talk page post], [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Kate_Fitzgerald&oldid=463889650 this one], and [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Kate_Fitzgerald_%282nd_nomination%29&diff=463890199&oldid=463887532 this one]. You're clearly following me around for purposes of [[WP:HOUND|harassment]] and I want a commitment from you to desist or I will raise the issue in the appropriate forum. [[User:ScottyBerg|ScottyBerg]] ([[User talk:ScottyBerg|talk]]) 23:20, 3 December 2011 (UTC)
I just noticed [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Sentence_length_%28Linguistics%29 this talk page post], [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Kate_Fitzgerald&oldid=463889650 this one], and [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Kate_Fitzgerald_%282nd_nomination%29&diff=463890199&oldid=463887532 this one]. You're clearly following me around for purposes of [[WP:HOUND|harassment]] and I want a commitment from you to desist or I will raise the issue in the appropriate forum. [[User:ScottyBerg|ScottyBerg]] ([[User talk:ScottyBerg|talk]]) 23:20, 3 December 2011 (UTC)
:Let my keep it short: feck off, troll! [[User:Night of the Big Wind|<font face="Old English Text MT"><font color="green">Night of the Big Wind</font></font>]] [[User talk:Night of the Big Wind|<font color="maroon"><sub><i>talk</i></sub></font>]] 23:30, 3 December 2011 (UTC)

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Request for mediation rejected

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Speedy deletion nomination of 1808 (disambiguation)

A tag has been placed on 1808 (disambiguation), requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done for the following reason:

turned out to be double

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Speedy deletion converted to PROD: SWAG (asset class)

Hello Night of the Big Wind, and thanks for patrolling new pages! I am just letting you know that I have converted the speedy deletion tag that you placed on SWAG (asset class) to a proposed deletion tag. The speedy deletion criteria are extremely narrow to protect the encyclopedia, and do not fit the page in question. You may wish to review the Criteria for Speedy Deletion before tagging further pages. Thank you. — Joseph Fox 18:17, 3 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Adoption

Hi Night of the Big Wind. I've been thinking about your adoption request for a while and regretfully I'm going to have to decline. Generally, my adoption program focusses on integration with the community, helping users with their interactions and giving them an overview of policy. I don't think you will benefit from any of these factors. Really, you need someone with copyediting skills and general writing skills. It's not an area I can help particularly - I don't rate my writing skills very highly. WormTT · (talk) 09:36, 4 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion declined

Just FYI, I have declined your speedy deletion request on Martin Schibbye. I believe that the claim that he edited two different news magazine, which are themselves notable enough for a WP article, is a sufficient claim of importance to pass A7. I did tag the article for notability, though it's probably sufficient even to pass that higher standard. However, feel free to AfD if you still think the person non-notable; be sure to check WP:BEFORE for references, and note that since Schibbye is Swedish, relevant references may be in Swedish rather than English. Qwyrxian (talk) 13:00, 4 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy Deletion: TruConnect Mobile

I’d like discuss further the deletion of TruConnect Mobile, because I believe all of the references establish the subject’s significance as an organization meeting the needs of today’s consumers – in fact, it was even covered in TIME. Additionally, the article was written to include limited content in an effort to avoid coming across as advertising or marketing material. Please advise on how I can edit this article so that it can be reinstated. DJADave (talk) 23:23, 4 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed deletion of Mitchell Landzaat

The article Mitchell Landzaat has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

Non-notable actor, he played minor roles such as cops, a helmsman and a handyman in TV movies/mini-series according to IMDB. He also was stunt double in yet another TV movie. And acting in commercials certainly isn't notable (unless it's a celebrity tie-in or the like).

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Please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Removing {{proposed deletion/dated}} will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. In particular, the speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and articles for deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. SpeakFree (talk)(contribs) 22:11, 5 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Nomination of Mitchell Landzaat for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Mitchell Landzaat is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mitchell Landzaat until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on good quality evidence, and our policies and guidelines.

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Protection request

Just letting you know that I declined a protection request from WP:RFPP that you submitted. Protection is a "last resort" - we do it only in urgent circumstances. This one would be better handled by opening a dialogue on the talk page and inviting concerned parties to it. - Philippe 02:41, 6 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost: 7 November2011

3RR warning

Your recent editing history at Bank Transfer Day shows that you are in danger of breaking the three-revert rule, or that you may have already broken it. An editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Breaking the three-revert rule often leads to a block. If you wish to avoid being blocked, instead of reverting, please use the article's talk page to discuss the changes; work towards a version that represents consensus among editors. You can post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection. You may still be blocked for edit warring even if you do not exceed the technical limit of the three-revert rule if your behavior indicates that you intend to continue to revert repeatedly. — Arthur Rubin (talk) 08:50, 9 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Start counting, mr. Censor. Night of the Big Wind talk 09:41, 9 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Reported at WP:AN3. — Arthur Rubin (talk) 15:05, 9 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Censorship, mr. Rubin... Night of the Big Wind talk 15:09, 9 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Edit warring at Bank Transfer Day

You have been blocked from editing for a period of 48 hours for edit warring, as you did at Bank Transfer Day. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to make useful contributions. If you would like to be unblocked, you may appeal this block by adding the text {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}, but you should read the guide to appealing blocks first.

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The complete report of this case is at WP:AN3#User:Night of the Big Wind reported by User:Arthur Rubin (Result: 48h). EdJohnston (talk) 17:27, 9 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Request reason:

This block is excessive in term. I did three reverts against somebody who did not commit any discussion. The fourth revert was against a vandal. Secondly: the edit war was already over. The last of the three edits was at 9.15am. The revert of the vandalistic edit at 11.24 am. The report from Arthur Rubin came in at 14.36, more then three hours later. Point three was that I did a good faith edit, responded on the comments in the summeraries, but still get accused of not negotiating about the wording. The one who was reverting me also did not start any discussion or negotiation, what makes this punishment onesided and therefor unfair. Night of the Big Wind talk 19:12, 9 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Decline reason:

The edit warring is unambiguous, as is your false accusations of vandalism. Content disputes are not WP:VANDALISM, and referring to good-faith editors as vandals is a personal attack. The length is by-the-book, since it is your second block for edit warring. --jpgordon::==( o ) 19:32, 9 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Then can somebody tell me why Most banks do not at care at all that their expensive high-maintenance-low-revenue customers are walking away. They save money with that, what was just the purpose of the announced fees. fails on Incorrect sentence grammar.???? Night of the Big Wind talk 19:39, 9 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, that's esy. They save money with that, what was just the purpose of the announced fees. What does "what" refer to? The sentence is incomprehensible. --jpgordon::==( o ) 20:56, 9 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Maybe it refers to "saving money"? Or is that too difficult to understand? Night of the Big Wind talk 23:30, 9 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Ah. That's not in any way standard English grammar. --jpgordon::==( o ) 23:40, 9 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
As far as I know it is not illegal to have Dutch as first language, but in effect that gave me the block. Night of the Big Wind talk 06:34, 10 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
No, but when there were objections to the edit you should have stopped. When you didn't, it became 'illegal'. There is nothing so pressing about that edit that it needed to be done regardless of objections. If it matters, I applaud you for contributing to the encyclopedia when English isn't your first language. I have only contributed one article to the French wikipedia, and was so nervous about it I had a native French-speaking colleague check it. Hope this helps. Syrthiss (talk) 12:26, 10 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
There were no objections, I was reverted without usefull comment... Night of the Big Wind talk 12:34, 10 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Do people just spontaneously and without comment revert good edits here, in your experience? Syrthiss (talk) 12:43, 10 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, they do. Mostly when they are inconvenient or contradict someones opinion. Wikipedia is not immune for POV-pushers and systemetic bias. My first edit-war block was against a POV-pusher. ClaudioSantos has by now the broadest topic-ban ever issued. And the systemetic bias can be found on two main points: 1) subjects relating to the USA are far earlier considered notable then subjects from elsewhere; 2) wikiproject-rules about notability van override the Wikipedia:Notability-rules, even if the subject is clearly not notable. That is extreem frustrating. Just check on American schools (always considered notable, even if they just barely came into existence) and seaworthy ships (considered notable as soon as they are longer then 100 feet). Night of the Big Wind talk 13:48, 10 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Hmmm, can I get your attention for Tubber, Ireland? Some anonymous has added two promotional external links... Night of the Big Wind talk 17:28, 10 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
 Erledigt by another user. diff. Syrthiss (talk) 18:01, 10 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
By the way, all you need to do to be unblocked is assure us that you will refrain from edit warring in the future. --jpgordon::==( o ) 18:06, 10 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
To be honest, I can not guarantee this. I do not start editing wars to get my "right", but usually I am pulled into an editing war. I can guarantee the first, but not the second. So I think it better not to guarantee anything... Night of the Big Wind talk 19:52, 10 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Fair enough. If you draw future edit warring blocks, you'll notice that they escalate; the next one will likely be a week. --jpgordon::==( o ) 20:57, 10 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I noticed that. And I noticed that you can get blocked for an edit war several hours after an edit war ended... Night of the Big Wind talk 21:07, 10 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
You did sound a bit disappointed that I did not promise not to be involved in edits wars anymore. Unfortunately, I know my self well enough to know that a promise on that point could be a lie. And because Wikipedia is for an important part based on trust, I do not want to issue a statement that can be a lie. It is more honest to say I can not promise that then saying I promise that and break it. Night of the Big Wind talk 21:18, 10 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Darn, a rational and honest person. Well, at least try; your contributions are too good too be reduced or diminished. And I'm shortening your block to "time served". I don't see much reason to keep it on -- and you're right, it was quite after-the-fact. --jpgordon::==( o ) 21:51, 10 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you very much! I will try to be a good boy here. Night of the Big Wind talk 06:41, 11 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
The block was quite after-the-fact, but the nomination (mine) was prompt, considering my time zone (UTC -8). No offense intended, and I did try to warn you. That being said, I would have had no objection to it being a formal warning, as I can't find a previous 3RR warning in your history. I have been blocked for edit warring, sometimes incorrectly (2 of the 4 really were vandalism), but you really do need to be careful when adding material which is not quite as in the source or of questionable relevance, especially in controversial articles. — Arthur Rubin (talk) 19:20, 12 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I hope you are kidding now. This is utter nonsense. Please avoid me a bit, for instance by not commenting on my talkpage. Night of the Big Wind talk 20:47, 12 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Conflict of interest

If you think there is a conflict of interest please don't link to personal pages such as the linkedin page you linked to at Wikipedia:Requests for undeletion. Feel free to discuss evidence of conflict of interest which is present in edits on Wikipedia. User:Fred Bauder Talk 14:43, 12 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Paul van Herck

I've removed the WP:BLPPROD which you added to the Paul van Herck article. That process is (as the name implies) only applicable to biographies of living people. The article clearly indicates that the subject died 22 years ago. Pburka (talk) 18:07, 13 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I did read the article, but overlooked the date of death. Sorry. Night of the Big Wind talk 18:15, 13 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I shouldn't have been rude. I've been finding a lot of BLPPRODs on articles of dead subjects, placed there by different editors. Sorry about my brusqueness. Pburka (talk) 18:41, 13 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

How predictable...

I get one of your articles deleted and as "revenge" you PROD articles I created (the Eef van Breen article wasn't even started by me, I had made a redirect and someone created an article over it, the wiki software counts the redirect maker as starter).

Well go ahead PROD them all, people here don't want to read about boring Dutch subjechts just as much as they don't want to read about a "famous" advertising star and bit part actor, creating articles took my mind off some other shit a while ago and I had already stopped doing that a while back.

I'm off for a wikibreak. SpeakFree (talk)(contribs) 18:58, 13 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I just used the same scale as you did, so stop crying please. Night of the Big Wind talk 19:16, 13 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Mitchell Landzaat

I have restored the Mitchell Landzaat article to your userspace at User:Night of the Big Wind/Mitchell Landzaat together with its talk page. Feel free to work on them but they probably shouldn't be moved back to the article space until you can find more sources. There is nothing wrong with using IMDb as a place to start but it isn't a reliable source by English Wikipedia standards and can't be used to demonstrate notability. As for the deletion rationale itself, I based my action on the consensus in the AfD discussion and would only delete another actor if the consensus was likewise to delete. But for actors with similar levels of notability, several minor roles with limited reliable sourcing that is certainly the most likely outcome. Eluchil404 (talk) 23:04, 13 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Night of the Big Wind talk 23:09, 13 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Maalai Nerathu Mazhaithuli

Hi. I have declined your speedy deletion request for Maalai Nerathu Mazhaithuli, as I don't see how it is obvious vandalism (although it does seem to be confused over the title). But if you really think it is vandalism, please do feel free to explain further and I'll be happy to reconsider. -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 13:45, 14 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

If you read the content of this Page you can feel completely irrelevant and inappropriate data bound together. Please delete it!!! Abdul raja (talk) 14:37, 14 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
"Completely irrelevant and inappropriate data bound together" does not constitute vandalism and is not eligible for deletion via CSD:G3. You are welcome to correct it, or propose it for deletion via {{PROD}} -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 15:22, 14 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
PS: It looks as if someone is working on it as we speak -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 15:23, 14 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy Deletion of Varsha Gupta

Hi, I've described the reason why i created this Page. Please visit the Talk Page and give your view on it.Thanks Abdul raja (talk) 14:03, 14 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion declined: Mayhem Festival 2012

Hello Night of the Big Wind. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Mayhem Festival 2012, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: not obviously promotional - PROD as WP:CRYSTAL may well apply though. Thank you. SmartSE (talk) 19:43, 14 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost: 14 November 2011

Yikes

Did you see the discussion at Talk:Ian Dowbiggin and BLPN? Not pretty, IMO. Even a sock may be making legitimate edits others do not understand and they can not explain. Jesanj (talk) 06:12, 17 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I stay safely at a distance. Night of the Big Wind talk 06:33, 17 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
The sock would not explain the edits on Talk. That's where he made his biggest mistake.  Jabbsworth  14:21, 17 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I don't think displaying ignorance of how things should be done around here while simultaneously insisting newbies observe technicalities is productive. Jesanj (talk) 17:05, 17 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I don't think baiting me is productive either. By "baiting" I am referring to your previous comment, which makes a mockery of the collegial atmosphere you are supposed to engender at WP, as well as the inflammatory, sneering comments you made on my Talk page. Your thinly veiled attempt to canvass NoTBW into the fray here is also counter to the spirit of the project. Please stop with the interpersonal bitchiness and leave other editors to get on with the task.  Jabbsworth  00:20, 18 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
It was more of a vent and a perhaps "you could have done more to fix the issue sooner" message to NoBW. Hmmmm... what's more likely, what I said, or me canvassing one person towards a noticeboard, where the discussion was. Jesanj (talk) 02:06, 18 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Nomination of Quality restaurant for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Quality restaurant is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Quality restaurant until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on good quality evidence, and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion template from the top of the article.

Colonel Tom 07:54, 18 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion nomination of The Analytic Sciences Corporation

Night of the Big Wind (also posting to Jac16888's Talk Page):

A tag has been placed on The Analytic Sciences Corporation, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page seems to be unambiguous advertising which only promotes a company, product, group, service or person and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become an encyclopedia article. Please read the guidelines on spam andWikipedia:FAQ/Business for more information. If you think that this notice was placed here in error, contest the deletion by clicking on the button labelled "Click here to contest this speedy deletion". Doing so will take you to the talk page where you will find a pre-formatted place for you to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. You can also visit the page's talk page directly to give your reasons, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the page meets the criterion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the page that would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, you can contact one of these administrators to request that the administrator userfy the page or email a copy to you. Night of the Big Wind talk14:32, 17 November 2011 (UTC)

  • I was very surprised to find your notice of "Speedy deletion" for this article. Where is the "unambiguous advertising"? The article cites either facts or (in one instance) a claim by TASC, namely its self-description -- caveated by statement "The firm describes itself as" thus making this also a fact-only statement. The entry's tone is decidedly neutral, with no word of praise and few (if any) qualifying adjectives. PLEASE NOTE CAREFULLY: (1) The firm is new, so there is little history or information available -- that's why I wrote it. (2) What you seem to have taken for "unambiguous advertising" is in fact rather negative. If you had read through the entry carefully, you should have noticed that the firm has had: (a) very few wins of note since inception, (b) an initial period of firing (clearly implied by the spate of rehiring), and (c) an unflattering (but straightforwardly and factually stated) origin, namely TASC's spin-off by Northrop Grumman driven by new need to comply with WSARA, not because anyone had identified the spin-off as an advantageous business decision -- all information TASC no doubt would not like to have "advertised" in a highly factual, neutral account like the one I have written. Perhaps if I had written an article with some kind of bias or motive (as your flagging has suggested), then you woud not have missed the implications of the entry -- the price of even-handed, neutral writing?
  • Further, let me state here clearly that I have no affinity nor affiliation with TASC: can you please state the same?

If this is the first article that you have created, you may want to read the guide to writing your first article. You may want to consider using the Article Wizard to help you create articles.

  • Please take a moment to look at author profile pages before making such generic statements
  • Overall, please be sure to read both articles and about authors more carefully before you slap inaccurate assessments on them

--Aboudaqn (talk) 18:24, 18 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion declined: Dominik Knoll

Hello Night of the Big Wind. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Dominik Knoll, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: the New Orleans magazine people to watch conveys importance, as does being guest speaker at the world economic forum and the clinton global initiative. Thank you. Martijn Hoekstra (talk) 10:02, 19 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bhagmati

Seems that you've been lead astray by a missing H. Are you certain that you want to pursue this nomination?   — C M B J   13:45, 19 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Nabagram Vidyapith

Hi. I have declined your deletion request at Nabagram Vidyapith - in the A7 deletion template it says "Note that schools are not eligible under this criterion. See CSD A7." -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 13:04, 20 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Oops, wrong footed by Wikipedia:CSD#A7 due to it referring to "educational institutions" instead of schools. Any idea why schools are excluded? Night of the Big Wind talk 13:18, 20 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Don't know really, but I think there's something somewhere which says all secondary schools are automatically notable - but I can't find it right now -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 13:34, 20 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Hmmm, I do not agree with that, but Wikipedia has more of those stupid rules. Declaring all sea-going ships notable, for instance. Too much power for the projects to overrule WP:GNG. Night of the Big Wind talk 13:43, 20 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, I'm not sure I agree with blanket auto-notable rules like that either - it opens the way, for example, for someone who has a list of, say, all the schools in a particular country, to create thousands of stubs of little individual value -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 14:21, 20 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
If I was in an evil mood, I could make articles about all former one-classroom (!) schools in the vicinity here. I think there were 17 national schools around here with less then 10 pupils when they were closed down. (County Clare lost half of its population between 1840 and now) As far as I know only a few of them were older then a hundred years, what would make them notable in my opinion. Night of the Big Wind talk 14:29, 20 November 2011 (UTC) sticks with his traditional musicians and Michelin starred restaurants[reply]

Speedy deletion converted to PROD: Automated Note Search Tool

Hello Night of the Big Wind. I am just letting you know that I have converted the speedy deletion tag that you placed on Automated Note Search Tool to a proposed deletion tag, because I do not believe CSD applies to the page in question. Thank you. Martijn Hoekstra (talk) 16:40, 20 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion declined: Maltman's Green School

Hello Night of the Big Wind. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Maltman's Green School, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: Article is not promotional only. Currently badly written and unsupported by any refs, but that doesn't make it eligable for G11. Consider the possibility of PROD or (IMO preferably) AfD as it is a fairly old school, some some refs on the history may be found. Thank you. Martijn Hoekstra (talk) 16:45, 20 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

LOL, do you accept any of my nominations? I will look at them later. Night of the Big Wind talk 16:53, 20 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Hehe, pinky swear I don't look at the taggers ;). If you re-read the article, and G11 (Pages that are exclusively promotional) and keep in mind this is meant for "x is a great y, and and you should certainly get one/a subscription/apply for one/enroll here", you can probably see that it doesn't fit here. Am I correct to guess that the thought was "A7 does not apply to schools so I have to pick a different criterion" here? Keep in mind that the criteria for speedy deletion should be used for "this page needs to disappear from Wikipedia RIGHT NOW". A7 is a bit of an odd one out there, as it's more of a "this subject should NEVER be covered in wikipedia in any way, means of form", but if you keep the first definition as a touchstone for tagging (does this need to go RIGHT NOW? no? then go for PROD or AfD), you will notice it's a great filtering criterium for yourself. Martijn Hoekstra (talk) 18:15, 20 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
By the way, what is the difference between PROD en AfD? The discussion? Night of the Big Wind talk 18:53, 20 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
A prod is a suggestion to delete, with the assertion there is full consensus for it, and no discussion is needed. If anyone disagrees, then there is no full consensus, and the PROD fails. When there is no objection after 7 days, it is assumed there are no objections, and any administrator can delete the article at their discretion. Martijn Hoekstra (talk) 19:18, 20 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion declined: Assyrian Black March Movement

Hello Night of the Big Wind. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Assyrian Black March Movement, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: Article claims coverage in reliable sources. Thank you. — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 18:04, 20 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Interesting! I could only find 30 Google hits (most from Wikipedia and clones) and just one on Google News. So the "Assyrian Black March Movement" is not notable at all. The "Assyrian Black March" could be notable, with 48000 hits on Google. Night of the Big Wind talk 18:18, 20 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
The article has links to articles in the Chicago Tribune and the Liverpool Leader. It may not be a notable event, but in my opinion the article has asserted sufficient significance that it isn't a candidate for A7 speedy deletion. Try PROD or AfD instead. — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 18:25, 20 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Please read what I write: the movement is not notable. The march might be. Night of the Big Wind talk 18:29, 20 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I'm sorry. According to the article, there have been marches in more than 30 countries. Do you think I should delete this article because it uses the word "movement" in its title and encourage its author to write articles about each specific march? — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 18:44, 20 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Excuse me, there are no sources about the movement. They are all about the individual marches. Night of the Big Wind talk 18:50, 20 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Oi, I have a bad day with administrators today. Maybe my line of thinking is not standard or even considered strange... Night of the Big Wind talk 18:59, 20 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Well, if you ever feel the need to let off steam about admins, my Talk page is always open :-) -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 19:08, 20 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Sometimes I have the feeling of "If you can't beat them, join them". But after the mud throwing when I applied for autopatrol in september, I had immedeately enough. But clashing twice on one day with an administrator because they can't follow my line of thinking is new. Night of the Big Wind talk 19:16, 20 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I want to echo Boing!'s sentiment. If you ever need to let of steam, his talk page is always open. Martijn Hoekstra (talk) 19:23, 20 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the offer, both of you. But sometimes you just have a bad day. My GAA-club lost after playing a magnificent game and that hurts. (Just some SPAM: Kilmurry Ibrickane GAA) Night of the Big Wind talk 19:41, 20 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion converted to PROD: Gia Trimble

Hello Night of the Big Wind. I am just letting you know that I have converted the speedy deletion tag that you placed on Gia Trimble to a proposed deletion tag, because I do not believe CSD applies to the page in question. Thank you. Martijn Hoekstra (talk) 19:28, 20 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion declined: Eric Cormier

Hello Night of the Big Wind. Just to let you know, I declined the speedy deletion you suggested for this article, as the subject appears to have some third-party coverage. Regards, Paul Erik (talk)(contribs) 21:36, 20 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Jennifer Lim (theatre actress) AfD

Hello,

Could you please take a fresh look at this article and your AfD nomination? I've expanded and referenced the article in recent hours. Thank you. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 23:06, 20 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion of " Birthplace of Svetozar Corovic" article

Could you please take a fresh look at this article and your speedy deletion nomination? I've expanded and referenced the article in recent hours. Thank you. Bizutage (talk) 09:08, 21 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost: 21 November 2011

BlackBerry Torch

In the template, you renamed the "BlackBerry Torch" link to "BlackBerry Torch (series)" without editing the "BlackBerry Torch" article title. i've reverted your edits, but please talk to me if you have any other suggestions. Thanks, --True Tech Talk Time (talk) 20:33, 22 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

It would have been a better idea when you had checked your own links. By reverting, you brought back a link to a disambiguation page. So again I corrected the page. PLease check you links in the futere to avoid links to disambiguation pages. Night of the Big Wind talk 22:14, 22 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Mentorship

Hello! It is a pleasure to meet you. I would be honored to be your mentor and to help you with any thing you need. I know a thing or two about discouragement on Wikipedia. Awhile back I had tried writing and translating articles on the German Wikipedia only to have some of my articles deleted because of my lack of German fluency and because someone thought the article topics were not notable enough. I know it is nice to be around other encouraging editors who appreciate the effort to create new content on Wikipedia.

I've looked at a few of the articles you have written, and most look to be in good shape. I've only had to do some minor copy editing. Some of the errors are those that even native English speakers make (such as "it's" vs "its"). Some of the other edits I made were more stylistic – it was not that I was necessarily fixing an error but just improving the wording so that it flows better. If you have any specific questions about any of the edits I have made to the articles you have written, let me know. I'll try my best to explain why I changed the wording or punctuation. One other way that you can improve your articles is by improving the citation style. Please see WP:CITE for general citation guidelines and how to avoid link rot. Also read WP:Citing sources/Example style to learn about the appropriate way to italicize titles and such. Using WP:Citation templates can also help to make proper citations easier. Let me know if you have any questions. Happy Editing! --Tea with toast (話) 21:29, 24 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Fickling & Company Building

Hi, just wanted to let you know I've declined your speedy deletion request for Fickling & Company Building. I don't believe the article has been through an AfD, at least I couldn't find the discussion. CSD:G4 only applies to articles deleted in an AfD, not via speedy or Prod. Best, Sparthorse (talk) 22:33, 24 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

aha, did not know that. Now nominated as AfD. Night of the Big Wind talk 22:41, 24 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

List of musicians that have recorded the song Skibbereen

Because, as I stated in my edit summary WP:SONGCOVER. --Richhoncho (talk) 23:21, 25 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, but that aplies to individual songscovers, not to a list of songcovers. The reason I had split it off, was that the list has the potention of getting very long, overshadowing the song itself. Night of the Big Wind talk 23:25, 25 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
It applies to a single cover, two covers, and "lists" of covers - especially unreferenced lists. The issue of potential doesn't even come it. Do you want to revert your edits or shall I? --Richhoncho (talk) 23:45, 25 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Feel free to start an edit war, but you are wrong. Night of the Big Wind talk 23:47, 25 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I don't do edit wars, but apparently you do. An AfD would be more appropriate. Cheers. --Richhoncho (talk) 23:50, 25 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I guess you did not read the policy you are refering to, so here the main part: When a song has renditions (recorded or performed) by more than one artist, discussion of a particular artist's rendition should be included in the song's article (not a separate article), but only if at least one of the following applies (bolded by me). This is not a discussion of a single rendition, but an overview of album with the song "Skibbereen" or "Old Skibbereen". You should not use interpretations that are not stated in the text. Night of the Big Wind talk 23:56, 25 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for your note on my user page. You will note that not one piece of information has been lost - as for deleting articles, you're way ahead of me, judging by the comments on your userpage! I also made a small apology on the deletion page, you can read it there. --Richhoncho (talk) 13:29, 29 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion

Hi. After you tagged The Analytic Sciences Corporation for speedy deletion [1], the author of the article, Aboudaqn (talk · contribs) placed a help-desk request [2]. Others have responded - it's now archived here - but maybe Aboudaqn hadn't seen the response, and asked me about it on my talk page [3]. I've answered, saying not to worry; and in that specific case, hopefully it'll be OK, and we can move along.

But, when I came to your talk page here, I can see that there are many other recent, declined speedies from you - I count about 12, both before and after that one.

So I'm asking you to please be much more careful, and circumspect with speedy-tagging. Speedy deletion is only for total rubbish. Vandalism, copyvio, attacks, and pages that have absolutely no chance whatsoever of being made acceptable. Wikipedia has no deadline, we're not in a rush - so for anything beyond "total rubbish" it does absolutely no harm at all if we wait a few days (using PROD / AFD) - and it avoids problems.

I used to be more "enthusiastic" about tagging things myself, too - but I learned my lesson the hard way. People can get very upset with mis-taggings. So now, I always err on the side of caution - and I suggest you start doing that too. If you're in any doubt whatsoever about whether something is, or is not, "speedyable" then I highly recommend you do not use speedy.

Please note, I'm not some rampant inclusionist. I agree, for example, that it's silly that "educational establishments" are exempt, and I'm tempted to write about "Chzz's School Of Wikipedia" which operates out of my kitchen but... that'd be POINTy, and the policy is what it is. Whenever it comes up for discussion I make my point there, but of course we have to go with consensus.

I'm sure it's no fun for you to keep getting messages about speedys being declined, so I hope you'll take this as good advice, and that this will be the end of the matter; I'm sure you're intentions are good, and I'd hate to discourage you. Keep up the good work, but please try to avoid so many mis-taggings; it can drive editors away (new, or older). After all, we're here to build the Encyclopaedia, and even though true junk needs deleting, where possible it's always better if we can fix things.

Best,  Chzz  ►  06:48, 26 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Request denied. I normally tag articles from the end of the list of new pages. Those articles are at least two weeks old. It just happens that people suddenly awake out of hibernation after a tag or nomination is placed and finally finishes the article or greatly improve it based on the comments made. Night of the Big Wind talk 02:30, 29 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
The age of them is irrelevant.
Several users have told you that you've mis-tagged articles for speedy deletion. I see, below, that yet another one has done so today.
As I hate wasting time with paperwork, I will say it once more here, first: if you keep inappropriately tagging pages for speedy-deletion, then you may be blocked from editing.
I sincerely hope that is the end of it.  Chzz  ►  16:05, 30 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
As I stated before: request denied. I stick to the rules, especially Wikipedia:Ignore all rules. Night of the Big Wind talk 16:13, 30 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
For your information: User:Night of the Big Wind/CSD log. I make mistakes, just like everybody else. And I prefer to be too harsh, then to be too soft. Better a CSD denied, then spam or promo into the encyclopedia! Night of the Big Wind talk 13:09, 1 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of musicians that have recorded the song Skibbereen

For civility's sake, here is notification that I have opened the AfD debate. Cheers. --Richhoncho (talk) 10:28, 26 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Your nomination for deletion of– Orange County LAFCO

Just a note, you did not transclude this article in the Articles for deletion log page when you nominated it for deletion, as required in step 3 of the subsection "How to nominate a single page for deletion” on the Wikipedia:Articles for deletion page. Another user has performed this step for you to complete the process. In the future, please follow all of the required steps when nominating an article for deletion. Thank you. Northamerica1000(talk) 07:37, 27 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I always use Twinkle as instrument for the nominations. For reasons unknown to me, that program sometimes fails without warning. Night of the Big Wind talk 02:32, 29 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion nomination of List of musicians that have recorded the song Skibbereen

A tag has been placed on List of musicians that have recorded the song Skibbereen, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done for the following reason:

own request. If a AfD-nominator resorts to personal attacks to get a article away, I give up.

Under the criteria for speedy deletion, articles that do not meet basic Wikipedia criteria may be deleted at any time.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, contest the deletion by clicking on the button labelled "Click here to contest this speedy deletion". Doing so will take you to the talk page where you will find a pre-formatted place for you to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. You can also visit the page's talk page directly to give your reasons, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the page meets the criterion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the page that would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, you can contact one of these administrators to request that the administrator userfy the page or email a copy to you. Night of the Big Wind talk 02:46, 29 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost: 28 November 2011

Speedy deletion declined: Jake Evans (musician)

Hello Night of the Big Wind. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Jake Evans (musician), a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: Being part of a notable entity indicates importance/significance. Thank you. PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 22:39, 29 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Erpert Who is this guy? | Wanna talk about it? has given you a dove! Doves promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day happier. Spread the WikiLove by giving someone else a dove, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past (this fits perfectly) or a good friend. Cheers!

Spread the peace of doves by adding {{subst:Peace dove}} to someone's talk page with a friendly message!

Just letting you know there are no hard feelings about this. Erpert Who is this guy? | Wanna talk about it? 06:25, 1 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Speedy deletion declined: The South African Depression and Anxiety Group

That page is mostly referenced with primary sources, contains also peacock terms, but does not fit under #G11. Please read again the CSD criteria and maybe try to do some other work like reviewing WP:AFC submissions or clearing any WP:backlog. 'CSDing is not a game! mabdul 12:55, 1 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I know that it is not a game. But the article is clearly promotional towards its speaking books. That is why I nominated it as G11. Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion clearly stated that G11 is for Unambiguous advertising or promotion. Night of the Big Wind talk 13:04, 1 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
And then please explain me the CSD tag at Personyze? I don't see any advertising. There are several third party, reliable references in. Even a criticism section. Nothing solveable! Plrease read WP:SOFIXIT! mabdul 13:08, 1 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
So fix it... Night of the Big Wind talk 13:16, 1 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
OK, then explain me int the SADAG article the sections and phrases which are for Unambiguous advertising or promotion. I can't find them on the first look and thus not G11! mabdul 13:11, 1 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Just one part: While this is a relatively novel form of intervention, Speaking Books have the potential to become effective tools in critical health information dissemination in lower- and middle-income community contexts. Particularly within the context of the public health crisis posed by the HIV & AIDS epidemic, such simple and effective tools for improving health knowledge and psychosocial coping skills in HIV risk populations are becoming invaluable. Bare information, clearly not... Night of the Big Wind talk 13:16, 1 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you.  Chzz  ►  13:36, 1 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

If you can't beat them, report them. Old trick. Night of the Big Wind talk 13:54, 1 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Pro-American bias

Regarding the Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Camden County Library discussion, I am perfectly willing to see similarly detailed information about every other country in the world. I may not find it very useful to have data about every college/university/library/town/whatever in, say, most countries in Africa, but doubtless people there - and anyone gathering data about them for various varieties of research - would find it useful, so I have no problem with its presence. (BTW... every time I run across some sports figure getting a page, I want to list it for deletion as non-notable, but I understand that it is notable by the current rules, and that people who care about such things - I don't, except for ergogenic drug use - find it useful. In other words, I sympathize with your feelings on the matter.) Allens (talk) 13:38, 1 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

In my opinion every subject should show why it is special among peers. Night of the Big Wind talk 13:58, 1 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Would you say that it's possible for every member of a category to be special, or does at least one have to be left out? Allens (talk) 15:19, 1 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Center for Media and Democracy

I've gone ahead and cleaned up the maintenance tags added to the above referenced article. The following have been removed:

  1. two refimprove and self-published tags. Each statement in the article is cited, albeit with primary sources. Adding a SPS and two refimprove on top of the primarysources tag is clearly redundant and unnecessary. see WP:TC
  2. rm advert and npov as redundant and lacking clarification; please clarify identified areas of concern and engage in discussion on talk page.
  3. rm COI due to lack of identified COI editing.
  4. rm notability due to national scope and awards received; while additional independent sources are needed, notability is established; if notability remains in question, please consider submitting for a community discussion. Best regards, Cind.amuse (Cindy) 15:42, 1 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Roos Vonk

No, I will not finish the article in my user space, due to lack of time. Feel free to finish it in my userspace and then move it to the name space. Andries (talk) 21:55, 2 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Talkback

Hello, The Banner. You have new messages at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Schools.
Message added 02:26, 3 December 2011 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

Your comment on my talk page

This one is unacceptable. You've exhausted my patience with your constant harping on that restaurant. Cut it out. ScottyBerg (talk) 19:49, 3 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Then stop hammering an article that is clearly notable. Night of the Big Wind talk 19:52, 3 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Nobody's "hammering" except you. In addition to the personal attack, your posts are bordering on harassment and must stop. If you feel that the article is notable, you'll have an opportunity to express that view at the AfD. ScottyBerg (talk) 23:14, 3 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Your recent edits

I just noticed this talk page post, this one, and this one. You're clearly following me around for purposes of harassment and I want a commitment from you to desist or I will raise the issue in the appropriate forum. ScottyBerg (talk) 23:20, 3 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Let my keep it short: feck off, troll! Night of the Big Wind talk 23:30, 3 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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