Template talk:Short pages monitor

Add "Long monitored short pages" category

To aid in removing this template from articles that have been expanded to the point that they are no longer "very short", it would be useful to have it add a category when the article becomes sufficiently long.

I have created Category:Long monitored short pages for this purpose. While the main point of this template is to keep legitimately short articles off Special:Shortpages, and it thus only needs to be used on pages smaller than about 120 characters, I have conservatively set the threshold at 1000 characters for now.

Replacing the template code with the following will accomplish this:

<includeonly>[[Category:Monitored short pages]]{{#ifexpr:{{PAGESIZE:{{PAGENAME}}|R}} > 1000|[[Category:Long monitored short pages]]}}</includeonly><noinclude>

{{documentation}}
<!-- Add categories and interwikis to the /doc subpage, not here! -->
</noinclude>

Thanks Gurch (talk) 19:23, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

Hey, welcome back!
Y Erledigt. Smart idea. I don't know how Category:Monitored short pages is used or how quickly pages in Category:Long monitored short pages are going to be processed, but would it make sense to automatically remove Category:Monitored short pages if the page grows large enough?
Amalthea 19:39, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

Very short articles (smaller than around 120 characters) that are nevertheless legitimate articles have {{subst:long comment}} added to them. This adds a hidden comment to the article that increases its size by about 200 characters, and adds it to Category:Monitored short pages for tracking purposes. The reason for all this is so that the articles don't show up on Special:Shortpages, which in turn allows that page to be used to find other very short pages that might be problematic (whether new, or the result of mass content removal from an existing page). Without this system, Special:Shortpages would not be very useful. Automatically removing Category:Monitored short pages probably isn't that useful because once the article gets long enough, {{short pages monitor}} and its accompanying comment should be removed from the page altogether, since they no longer have any place in the article. This new category just makes maintenance easier, since nobody wants to hunt through a category of 10,000 pages just to find the ones that are largest.

Pages in Category:Long monitored short pages will be processed whenever I get around to it, since I'm the only one who knows about the category at the moment. It's not an urgent issue, since {{short pages monitor}} isn't doing any harm just sitting on the page on its own. The main reason I'm bothering to do it at all is that if a tiny, formerly 120-character-or-less article has reached over 1000 characters, something dramatic has happened to the page and while it's often been fleshed out into an acceptable article, sometimes it's because of a copy-paste or other mass of unformatted text that someone dumped on the page. Given that the {{short pages monitor}} system was already in place, this is a convenient way of finding such pages when they might otherwise go unnoticed. Thanks Gurch (talk) 21:25, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

Change {{PAGENAME}} to {{FULLPAGENAME}}

{{editprotected}} In case this is ever useful on non article pages, please change {{PAGENAME}} to {{FULLPAGENAME}}.

I have quickly checked what links here, and although I did not check the actual User and User_talk uses, there seems to be one possibly correct attempt to use this on non-article pages: Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/ (although if a redirect can be protected this should just be a protected redirect to Wikipedia talk:Article wizard, just like any other talk page corresponding to a redirected article). Mark Hurd (talk) 05:55, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

Done. --Closedmouth (talk) 15:59, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

Use a parameter instead of filling up with comment

See Renounce edit. It appears that there is a long comment added only to the page size idly. I think that the template could have a parameter, say size_is_OK=yes, to give that effect. -DePiep (talk) 11:49, 5 February 2012 (UTC)