Talk:Miklós Zrínyi

Beware of the pigs!

Wild boards have a particular importance for the history of Carpathian basin. Prince imre, the only son of Saint Stephanus I, founding king of Hungary, also died to a wildboar's tusks. Many people and some historians argue, both him and Zrinyi were killed by austrian assains. Zrinyi actually planned to make a revolt against the Habsburgs, so getting rid of him would seem logical to the Austrian Empire. However, many eye witnesses testified that Zrinyi was indeed wounded in a way consistent with a wildboar. I'd say 75% probable hunting accident, 25% assassination, but we'll never get to know for sure.

content unfork

Apparently Silverije (talk · contribs) has created a content fork a while ago, and then persisted in undoing the unforks. I personally feel the Croatian name for this person would be just as acceptable as the Hungarian name (like I said many years ago), but what is not acceptable here is blatant Wikipedia:Content forking and Wikipedia:Edit warring. I will now merge the two article histories, leaving it at the Hungarian title, with no prejudice to the article content merging. Silverije, you're this -><- close to getting banned for a total failure to act in good faith. --Joy [shallot] (talk) 22:48, 5 January 2011 (UTC)

Just to explain a bit more, in case it was unclear - all users who can technically use the Move function on this article are indeed still allowed to use it. This was just enforcement of the rule that a single person has a single article. --Joy [shallot] (talk) 23:02, 5 January 2011 (UTC)

Pejacsevich/Pejačević

We have a somewhat similar problem with the two articles about the Pejacsevich/Pejačević families. An article (Pejacsevich) already existed when Silverije created another one (House of Pejačević). The Pejacsevichs are again a typical Croatian-Hungarian noble family who belong to both nations. I could accept here the Croatian spelling, but the fact that family members living today use the Hungarian spelling variant should be emphasized. --Csesznekgirl (talk) 09:50, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

I have put a merge tag on both of them as well, but no progress was made since then. Although main users of both articles did have some comunication on thear talk pages related to this problem. BTW, there are also family members in Croatia that use the Croatian spelling variant, and probably same goes for Bulgaria. Kebeta (talk) 12:03, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

Thanks. In Croatia might live some untitled members of the family, but they are not known in the genealogical literature. The titled branch noted in nobility registers uses the Hungarian spelling and most of them live in Western-Europe. [1] Here you can find all living members who bear the title of Count Pejacsevich de Verőcze/Grof Pejačević Viroviticki. The ancestors of this branch used Croatian spelling in Croatia and Hungarian spelling in Hungary, but as they emigrated after WWII with Hungarian passports they kept using their Hungarian name.--Csesznekgirl (talk) 14:19, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

POV Template and Information Removal

User Silverije has removed some information from the infobox (Kingdom of Hungary) and introduced a POV template. I would like to kindly ask him/her to explain the removal of this information and to identify those points which (s)he thinks are not neutral in the article. KœrteFa {ταλκ} 08:00, 6 July 2012 (UTC)

Čakovec and Gornji Kuršanec were in the Kingdom of Croatia (Habsburg) at that time...--Kebeta (talk) 16:43, 7 July 2012 (UTC)

Kebeta, I am afraid you are wrong. Čakovec and Gornji Kuršanec historically belonged to Zala county which never was part of the Kingdom of Croatia. It was attached to the Kingdom of Serbs, Croats and Slovanes only after WWI. --Csesznekgirl (talk) 09:54, 12 July 2012 (UTC)