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The Indigenous peoples of North America WikiProject manages over 6,000 articles related to Indigenous topics, with a broad and nested hierarchy of categories covering them.
NOTE: As of Nov. 2012, assessment has resumed for new articles and for existing unassessed articles.
How to assess articles
This section is an attempt to categorize some of the main ones as to quality level and address which ones need work the most.
A link to a page that generates lists of rated and unassessed articles is here. You can sort this list by Quality (such as Unassessed) or by Score, which gives you articles in higher demand. You can also start near the end of the list, at article number 4,000 or greater, to find unassessed items.
This is an ongoing task and your help would be appreciated. If you decide to pitch in and assess 2-3 articles, or even assess one or two articles the days you edit, you will have an impact!
Take a look some of the existing article talk pages so you know what this is about, and please do read the instructions before starting.
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How to assess
- You can find articles that need assessment at Category:Unassessed Indigenous peoples of North America articles. (These are just the articles that have been tagged for our project so far.)
- Assess the article using the grading and importance scheme below.
- Once you've determined whether the article is B, C , Start, or Stub, make sure the {{WikiProject Indigenous peoples of North America}} template is included (not subst'd) on the Talk page, with the correct parameters. (Most articles will have it already, but with no parameters).
- Template: {{WikiProject Indigenous peoples of North America|class= |importance= }}
- Edit the /comments subpage if you wish add comments about why you rated the article the way you did. (Remember to sign your comment with ~~~~.)
Small improvements while assessing articles
- Apply small fixes on the spot (or big fixes if you have the time and inclination).
- Make sure the article is in at least one (and usually only one) Indigenous peoples of North America category.
- Remove any stub template(s) from the article if it has expanded past stub length/quality.
FOR NEW EDITORS :)
Does all this sound complicated? If so, you can also assess an article by simply posting the your comments and rating at the WikiProject's Talk Page. One of our members can add your information and the project banner to the article talk page for you. And while you're there, say hi and introduce yourself.
B-class assessment requests
- Native American mascot controversy -- FigureArtist (talk) 05:59, 26 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Half-Breed Tract -- Djembayz (talk) 19:37, 10 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Interior Salish languages -- Djembayz (talk) 19:37, 10 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- William Bent -- Djembayz (talk) 19:37, 10 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Devils Tower -- Djembayz (talk) 19:37, 10 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Grading scheme
Codes and meanings
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FA | The article has attained featured article status by passing an in-depth examination by impartial reviewers from WP:Featured article candidates. More detailed criteria
The article meets the featured article criteria:
A featured article exemplifies Wikipedia's very best work and is distinguished by professional standards of writing, presentation, and sourcing. In addition to meeting the policies regarding content for all Wikipedia articles, it has the following attributes.
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Professional, outstanding, and thorough; a definitive source for encyclopedic information. | No further content additions should be necessary unless new information becomes available; further improvements to the prose quality are often possible. | Peter Jones (missionary) (as of February 2009) |
FL | The article has attained featured list status by passing an in-depth examination by impartial reviewers from WP:Featured list candidates. More detailed criteria
The article meets the featured list criteria:
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Professional standard; it comprehensively covers the defined scope, usually providing a complete set of items, and has annotations that provide useful and appropriate information about those items. | No further content additions should be necessary unless new information becomes available; further improvements to the prose quality are often possible. | n/a |
A | The article is well organized and essentially complete, having been examined by impartial reviewers from a WikiProject or elsewhere. Good article status is not a requirement for A-Class. More detailed criteria
The article meets the A-Class criteria:
Provides a well-written, clear and complete description of the topic, as described in Wikipedia:Article development. It should be of a length suitable for the subject, appropriately structured, and be well referenced by a broad array of reliable sources. It should be well illustrated, with no copyright problems. Only minor style issues and other details need to be addressed before submission as a featured article candidate. See the A-Class assessment departments of some of the larger WikiProjects (e.g. WikiProject Military history). |
Very useful to readers. A fairly complete treatment of the subject. A non-expert in the subject would typically find nothing wanting. | Expert knowledge may be needed to tweak the article, and style problems may need solving. WP:Peer review may help. | n/a |
GA | The article meets all of the good article criteria, and has been examined by one or more impartial reviewers from WP:Good article nominations. More detailed criteria
A good article is:
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Useful to nearly all readers, with no obvious problems; approaching (though not necessarily equalling) the quality of a professional publication. | Some editing by subject and style experts is helpful; comparison with an existing featured article on a similar topic may highlight areas where content is weak or missing. | Aboriginal peoples in Canada (as of December 2009) |
B | The article meets all of the B-Class criteria. It is mostly complete and does not have major problems, but requires some further work to reach good article standards. More detailed criteria
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Readers are not left wanting, although the content may not be complete enough to satisfy a serious student or researcher. | A few aspects of content and style need to be addressed. Expert knowledge may be needed. The inclusion of supporting materials should be considered if practical, and the article checked for general compliance with the Manual of Style and related style guidelines. | Sioux (as of February 2009) |
C | The article is substantial but is still missing important content or contains irrelevant material. The article should have some references to reliable sources, but may still have significant problems or require substantial cleanup. More detailed criteria
The article cites more than one reliable source and is better developed in style, structure, and quality than Start-Class, but it fails one or more of the criteria for B-Class. It may have some gaps or missing elements, or need editing for clarity, balance, or flow.
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Useful to a casual reader, but would not provide a complete picture for even a moderately detailed study. | Considerable editing is needed to close gaps in content and solve cleanup problems. | Kintpuash (as of April 2009) |
Start | An article that is developing but still quite incomplete. It may or may not cite adequate reliable sources. More detailed criteria
The article has a meaningful amount of good content, but it is still weak in many areas. The article has one or more of the following:
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Provides some meaningful content, but most readers will need more. | Providing references to reliable sources should come first; the article also needs substantial improvement in content and organisation. Also improve the grammar, spelling, writing style and improve the jargon use. | Spirit of Haida Gwaii (as of March 2009) |
Stub | A very basic description of the topic. Meets none of the Start-Class criteria. | Provides very little meaningful content; may be little more than a dictionary definition. Readers probably see insufficiently developed features of the topic and may not see how the features of the topic are significant. | Any editing or additional material can be helpful. The provision of meaningful content should be a priority. The best solution for a Stub-class Article to step up to a Start-class Article is to add in referenced reasons of why the topic is significant. | Kogluktogmiut (as of October 2008) |
List | Meets the criteria of a stand-alone list or set index article, which is an article that contains primarily a list, usually consisting of links to articles in a particular subject area. | There is no set format for a list, but its organization should be logical and useful to the reader. | Lists should be lists of live links to Wikipedia articles, appropriately named and organized. | List of Ohlone villages (as of March 2008) |
How to migrate early assessments and comments
Feel free to pitch in on this if you're interested ... Although many of these assessments are from 2006, the comments can still be helpful. Instructions are here: Wikipedia:WikiProject Indigenous peoples of North America/Article Classification/Migrating
Early article assessments and comments to migrate
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Nations, tribes and groups
If possible, the list below should be coordinated with the Classification of indigenous peoples in the United States and Canada.
Suggestion: political organizations should be broken off from tribes/groups as such, i.e. if there are separate government pages. Further to previous comments I'm creating a new table below, just above the reservations/pueblos/communities listing, which will be the regional/national governments, i.e. not at the community level of "nation" (those are in the reservations/pueblos list) but at combined/large-scale level; NOT the same thing as the regional ethno articles, even though they may necessarily overlap. Skookum1 19:21, 13 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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Mandan [3] | Feb 13, 2006 | FA |
Directions"The body would be placed with the head towards the northwest and feet to the southwest." This isn't possible, unless the body is bent. Is it supposed to be northwest and southeast?
I don't know much about Great Plain Indians but...Didn't the Pawnee indians have permanent villages too. Or are they part of the Mandan?Lazylizards8 00:26, 9 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
PedantriesGanymead, you link simple years. I haven't changed it, because it's commonly done, but I think policy has changed (I'm for one would be glad of it), and you're not supposed to link them any more. User:Tony1 frequently makes this point on WP:FAC, and I haven't seen anybody contradict him. Simple years aren't affected by date preferences anyway, please see this Manual of Style page: "If the date doesn't contain a day and a month, then date preferences won't work, and square brackets won't respond to your readers' auto-formatting preferences. So unless there is a special relevance of the date link, there's no need to link it. This is an important point: simple years, decades and centuries should only be linked if there's a strong reason for doing so." Best, Bishonen | talk 22:37, 25 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]
ImagesA lot of them need to be cropped. The "pure" images could always be retrieved again from the U.S. government sites if that concerns anybody. I'll do it myself if no one objects or if someone else wants to do it.—jiy (talk) 09:15, 9 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
CongratulationsI was so surprised to see an Indian Tribe article featured on the front page. I have seen so many on Wikipedia that need lots of work. This artical is fabulously organized, cited, and illustrated. Wonderful job to those of you who helped. --Schwael 16:51, 9 December 2005 (UTC)[reply] Ditto...Top notch article. Rlevse 17:40, 9 December 2005 (UTC)[reply] Ditto. I was surprised to see not only an Indian tribe featured, but one with which I am relatively familiar, having grown up 30 miles from New Town. Good work, everyone who contributed to this article. Ari 19:34, 9 December 2005 (UTC)[reply] A great job!!! have enjoyed watching the article progress the past few weeks. Best wishes. WBardwin 22:34, 9 December 2005 (UTC)[reply] Query"After awakening, the warrior would sacrifice the little finger on both hands [...] those completing the ceremony twice would gain everlasting fame among the tribe." What sacrifice was made second time around? Rich Farmbrough 17:51, 9 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
O-Kee-PaWas the O-Kee-Pa/Okeepe information not accurate? The history of that article stub says it was redirected because the information already existed here, but now it is gone. -- nae'blis (talk) 23:19, 5 July 2006 (UTC) Ĥ[reply]
minor quibbleI was wondering if this part could be rewritten a little: "the Mandan developed a religious ceremony to bring the buffalo closer to their villages. This ceremony, known as the Okipa, served not only to attract buffalo, but also to renew the world for another year." My problem with it is that, as written, the sentences imply causation: that the religious ceremonies actually had the effects described. The statements should be prefaced with something like "The Mandans believed that ...". Or I am mistaken, and there is evidence that the religious ceremonies really did somehow attract buffalo? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 198.53.253.2 (talk • contribs) 11:09, October 24, 2006 (UTC)
It's fine with me. I'll go ahead and add it. *Exeunt* Ganymead | Dialogue? 02:31, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Statement about Lewis and ClarkeThe following statement has been removed until I can be sourced.
A note was left on the editor's talk page, but if anyone else can provide a source for this, please do. However, I would prefer to add this statement back myself as I think it should go elsewhere in the article. Thanks! *Exeunt* Ganymead | Dialogue? 15:55, 8 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Ward Churchill does not belong hereThe committee investigating him said "Our investigation has found that there is some evidence in written accounts of Indian reactions in 1837 and in native oral traditions that would allow a reasonable scholar who relies heavily on such sources to reach Professor Churchill’s interpretation that smallpox was introduced deliberately among Mandan Indians near Fort Clark by the U.S. Army, using infected blankets.181 We therefore do not conclude that he fabricated his account." http://www.colorado.edu/news/reports/churchill/download/WardChurchillReport.pdf T heir contention with him was over improper footnotes not making false accusations.
See, among others, Thomas Brown, Did the US Army distribute Small Pox Blankets to Indians? Fabrication and Falsification in Ward Churchill's Genocide Rhetoric, Ann Arbor MI, 2006. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:1210:3ECB:2600:9C5E:BD5:C9A3:7C0 (talk) 14:09, 20 February 2023 (UTC)[reply] "related groups" info removed from infoboxFor dedicated editors of this page: The "Related Groups" info was removed from all {{Infobox Ethnic group}} infoboxes. Comments may be left on the Ethnic groups talk page. Ling.Nut 17:15, 19 May 2007 (UTC)[reply] Viking theoryThe claim of Viking influence and ancestry seems to have no substantial support. The only reference is a self-published text, which merely propounds the theory with many weasel words and hardly any evidence (Vikings in Newfoundland, some blue eyed Mandans, disputed runestone in Minnesota). Unless there is a better source, this paragraph is unjustified and should be removed. Kanguole (talk) 09:54, 8 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Combining both speculative theoriesGale, I think that combining both the Welsh and the Viking theories in one section should work - although I don't like the title I gave my initial combined effort. Both theories origininate in the 19th Century, although distanced in time. Both of them received a good measure of popular support during their time period and both are referenced today in more speculative publications, with the Viking theory currently more popular. I see no reason why Catlin can't be in two succeeding sections, so I moved his musings down a paragraph. Other ideas, anyone? WBardwin (talk) 03:10, 18 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Recent CopyeditsCivil Engineer III made some copyedits today, some of which were useful but he also removed the Marshall T Newman reference and that article is key to any discussion of the European Mandan arguments (which he debunks). I reverted his changes and then put back a few of his edits manually.--Dougweller (talk) 16:17, 18 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Upgrading ArticleI've just order the classic study Mandan Social and Ceremonial Organization by Alfred W. Bowers & Gerard Baker which should help upgrade this article so it really deserves to be and gets back its status of Featured Article.--Dougweller (talk) 17:24, 18 February 2008 (UTC)[reply] I was wondering if they used the Corn Beans & Squash together called the Three Sisters (of agriculture)? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.109.176.242 (talk) 01:04, 23 August 2013 (UTC)[reply] Are the Mandans really still in existence?It's appalling to think that about all the Native Americans whose cultures were destroyed but for the sake of cold historical fact I have to ask: 'Are the Mandans not extinct as a tribe?' Reference (for example): http://top-10-list.org/2011/11/04/top-10-native-tribes-who-faced-extinction/ This article gives the impression that they are, but is this accurate? 92.24.228.153 (talk) 20:16, 14 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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Last edited at 22:40, 20 March 2012 (UTC). Substituted at 22:57, 29 April 2016 (UTC) Villages before 1781I adapted this table from one given in the Handbook of North American Indians. I cannot figure out where in the article it would be best to place it, nor how to place a table alongside the text. If anybody can figure either of those things out, here it is. CMurdock (talk) 23:31, 24 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 11:31, 20 May 2017 (UTC)[reply] ?А разве последние 100% не умерла в 1975 году? говорят что они прибыли на теперешнюю родину из восточных районов, где то между 10-13 веками 46.211.74.170 (talk) 14:42, 13 October 2023 (UTC)[reply] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Apache [5] | Feb 16, 2006 | B |
GenocideIt is a fact that the Apache are the sufferers of ethnic cleansing and genocide. I know its not pretty but its true. This fact needs to be allowed to remain a centerpiece of the page, especially when speaking about their relations with the europeans. Thusly, it would be nice if people would refrain from removing this information, as said act is offensive and erasure of history. The erasure of history is key to continued genocide so you mah choose to support it via continued historical erasure or not. But know that if you do, you are choosing to support cleansing of history in favor of white supremacy, something wikipedia does not stand for. Thank you. Inependantyo (talk) 09:21, 15 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Tribes in Mexico?How does the article begin by saying that the Apache remain in the U.S. and modern Mexico, and then afterwards list only U.S. tribes, as if the only tribes that exist are in the U.S., and not in Mexico?Jimhoward72 (talk) 00:45, 25 July 2017 (UTC)[reply] Ethnobotany linksIt's not appropriate to link to external pages directly in the text of the article like in the ethnobotany sections. Should we make a separate section for Ethnobotany on this page? Luiysia (talk) 22:54, 31 March 2020 (UTC)[reply] Semi-protected edit request on 26 August 2021Error: Protected edit requests can only be made on the talk page. The apache was a modern tribe in the 2000's. 69.147.54.110 (talk) 19:24, 26 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Semi-protected edit request on 31 December 2021Error: Protected edit requests can only be made on the talk page. I would like to add the following to the "Regions with Significant population" section: Canada: 825 Residents of Canada identified as having Apache Ancestry in the 2016 Canadian Census. This information is taken from the following source: https://www12.statcan.gc.ca/census-recensement/2016/dp-pd/abpopprof/details/page.cfm?Lang=E&Geo1=PR&Code1=01&Data=Count&SearchText=Canada&SearchType=Begins&B1=All&C1=All&SEX_ID=1&AGE_ID=1&RESGEO_ID=1 GltKin21 (talk) 18:24, 31 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Semi-protected edit request on 4 January 2023Error: Protected edit requests can only be made on the talk page. The Chiricahua ethnobotany subheading is placed immediately after a description of their kinship system, before the subheading on Jicarilla kinship. Maybe this should be moved further down to the space between "Undomesticated plants and other food sources" and "Crop cultivation", where another subheading on ethnobotany exists? Raccoon Enthusiast (talk) 14:11, 4 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Fought for centuries against the Spanish [and Mexican?] ppl?How have they fought the Spanish and Mexicans, if the Mexican community is an effect of the Spanish inquicition? Or are they native too? 2001:1C01:2238:B400:FCCE:B0BE:96F1:7E0D (talk) 13:42, 3 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Apache-Comanche warsSee the Wikipedia article on the Comanche for some discussion of the conflicts between the Apache and the Comanche. More should be made of it in this article. There is also a long video on this and related material: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSYN7GF_ll0 2600:6C67:1C00:5F7E:94BA:53E6:DE82:BF55 (talk) 02:52, 3 June 2023 (UTC)[reply] Requested move of Apache IndianAn editor has requested that Apache Indian (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) be moved to another page, which may be of interest to editors of this topic. You are invited to participate in the move discussion.
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Apalachee [6] | May 8, 2006 | B |
UntitledWho ruined the original article? It was called Apalachee, the Spanish, and Catholicism. What the hell is a "southeastern culture?"71.253.40.208 14:18, 7 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Additions of 2 August 2006I've removed some material, and tagged other parts. I deleted part of one paragraph because it wasn't sourced, and another paragraph because it read like a promotion pamphlet for a modern attempt to recreate an old mission. The new section needs to be rewritten to conform to Wikipedia style guidelines. Also, do not link to images on external sites. Images that are in the public domain or that have been released under the GFDL may be uploaded to Wikipedia and then linked to. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:
I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Please sign your name on talk pages using four tildes (Donald Albury(Talk) 21:51, 2 August 2006 (UTC)); this will automatically produce your name and the date. If you need help, check out Wikipedia:Questions, ask me on my talk page, or place {{helpme}} on your talk page and someone will show up shortly to answer your questions. -- Donald Albury(Talk) 21:51, 2 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 22:06, 7 July 2017 (UTC)[reply] MapThe map has the Otto on the map in the south (the #1). They were actually in Nebraska. 24.20.248.65 (talk) 02:01, 3 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Cultural heritage groupsHi User:Donald Albury, Indigenous Florida is definitely your sphere of knowledge, so my apologies for contradicting your edits, but the Talimali Band of Apalachee are already mentioned in the "Cultural heritage groups" section. Listing a contemporary group in the "Spanish missions and 18th-century warfare" would break chronology. Yuchitown (talk) 01:03, 3 November 2023 (UTC)Yuchitown[reply]
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Blackfoot [7] | Feb 17, 2006 | B |
Aaron and Nick CarterThere is serious question whether these two performers should be listed as "Notable Blackfoot People". The book "Backstreet Brother" is described by the School Library Journal as "totally worthless" and that "almost all of the material is attributed to interviews previously printed in magazines such as Tiger Beat and Top of the Pops." An "unauthorized biography" (as the book describes itself) does not strike me as a reliable source. Neither of the official sites for the two brothers mention anything about being Blackfeet, and neither do their Wikipedia articles. At the anthropology blog here: http://anthrocivitas.net/forum/showthread.php?t=2444&page=2 a poster says "A lot of people claim 'Blackfoot' without any connection to the Blackfeet Nation. Take a look at the Notable Blackfoot section [in Wikipedia] and you will notice what I mean. Aaron Carter- WTF? The thing that most of these 'Blackfoot' have in common is they have no link to Montana or Alberta." This should be better sourced (if possible) or removed. HWAshton (talk) 19:40, 9 July 2011 (UTC)[reply] SiksikaAccording the the Mansfield Library at the University of Montana the Blackfoot Nation in Montana is Siksika. Hyacinth 21:50, 12 Sep 2004 (UTC) Usage: Blackfoot versus BlackfeetI am personally acquainted with numbers of Montana Blackfeet and note that they invariably say "Blackfeet" not "Blackfoot," even in sentences like "I am a Blackfeet." It's the Blackfoot River but the Blackfeet nation. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.201.149.69 (talk) 22:03, 30 April 2007 (UTC).[reply]
(Another voice) I too am personally acquainted with members of the Blackfeet Nation and have visited the reservation in Montana. I am a former Executive Director of the Southwest Museum of the American Indian in Los Angeles and I can assure you that the proper and only name for the tribe in the United States is "Blackfeet". The term "Blackfoot" distinguishes the Canadian branch of the tribe from the American branch. The article on the "Blackfoot" should be edited to reflect the facts of this situation. (Selmer 11:00 26 March 2010) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.126.230.109 (talk) 18:01, 26 March 2010 (UTC)[reply] Well, if it should be "Blackfeet" (as the proper adjective describing the tribe, as well as singular and plural members), it seems that the title of this article (and others) should be corrected. Terry Thorgaard (talk) 22:13, 23 January 2015 (UTC)[reply] "related groups" info removed from infoboxFor dedicated editors of this page: The "Related Groups" info was removed from all {{Infobox Ethnic group}} infoboxes. Comments may be left on the Ethnic groups talk page. Ling.Nut 23:10, 18 May 2007 (UTC)[reply] Move?How about a move to Blackfoot Confederacy? That's how the article starts, and simplifies disambiguation from Siksika (which means blackfoot) and Blackfeet(Southern Piegan)? - TheMightyQuill 09:22, 4 August 2007 (UTC)[reply] Manitoba?The article is included in Category:First Nations in Manitoba but doesn't mention manitoba in the text. Is that a mistake? - TheMightyQuill 09:29, 4 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
POV?Had Hudson’s Bay Company employed English Doctor Edward Jenner’s forty one year old technique of injecting cowpox to make people immune to smallpox, they could have prevented the epidemic they created. < POV? Hello71 02:43, 3 November 2009 (UTC) Edit request from Marinusswanepoel, 8 December 2010
Marinusswanepoel (talk) 23:52, 8 December 2010 (UTC)[reply] Already done It looks like another editor just did this. Thanks for what appears to be a good link. Qwyrxian (talk) 14:09, 9 December 2010 (UTC)[reply] movedMoved this article from 'Blackfoot' to 'Blackfoot Confederacy' and the dab page to 'Blackfoot'. I have no attachment to the current name, I merely followed the name used in the lede. Similarly, moved 'Blackfeet' to Piegan Blackfeet and then redirected 'Blackfeet' to the dab page. Links to 'Blackfoot' and 'Blackfeet' appeared to be nearly random, and did not follow the distinction made by the articles, so I've left most of them alone. I suspect that most, including the ones that used to link to the Piegan article, belong here, but they're generally too unclear for me to want to risk redirecting them. — kwami (talk) 01:34, 2 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Blackfoot an ethnic group or Blackfoot Confederacy as a political/military allianceThis article should be split. Half of it discusses the culture (language, religion, economy) of the Blackfoot-speaking peoples. Half of it is the history of a political alliance between those peoples and the Sarcee and Gros Ventre called the Blackfoot Confederacy. Its like the difference between an article on Germans, the people, and an article on the German Empire, a state that those people where a part of. --Kevlar (talk • contribs) 17:23, 4 August 2011 (UTC)[reply] And here I do respectfully disagree. From north of the Line Number 49, it is a mistake to confude the Blackfoot Confederacy with also Treaty Number 7. Treaty No. 7 does not include the so-called "Blackfeet" to the south of the Alberta-Montana border. A fact. Am I mistaken? But does not Treaty No. 7 include more members of more aboriginal first nations than only the Blackfoot Confederacy? I believe that these facts should be double-checked and triple-checked. Thank you for these valuable contributions. Treaty No. 7 was negotiated and signed between the aboriginal first nations and the British Crown (and of behalf of Canadians), and is, at least supposedly, acknowledged and upheld by the government and people of Canada even down to the present day (c. 2012 CE). By defintion, it cannot include the so-called "Blackfeet" in Montana (USA). — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cowichanreporter (talk • contribs) 06:28, 11 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I support the split. No ethnicity should ever be conflated with an organized political unit. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.206.181.191 (talk) 17:30, 26 August 2019 (UTC)[reply] Canadian or American (or British) EnglishWe seem to be having some confusion over whether to use "practise" or "practice", "while" or "whilst", etc. I am proposing that this article adopt Canadian usage, since the majority of the Blackfoot people, and 3 of the 4 nations, are located in Canada. --Kevlar (talk • contribs) 06:42, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply] I agree in the hope that least extra editing would result --Sinazita (talk) 13:12, 13 August 2011 (UTC)[reply] Beginner here I am; and I propose a so-called "Calgary Modification" of the Chicago Manual of Style. It is neither a misprint nor a typo -- and never an error -- when British (and English-speaking Canadians) make use of the English language. Around the Commonwealth of Nations even today (c. 2012 CE), most users of the English language utilise the British & Commonwealth spellings. An actual fact. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cowichanreporter (talk • contribs) 06:18, 11 June 2012 (UTC)[reply] First European contact?The article under First European Contact says "Anthony Henday of the Hudson's Bay Company (HBC) met a large Niitsitapi group in 1754 in what is now Alberta. The first known meeting with European Americans came in 1806 with the Lewis and Clark expedition."... So, the intent is to say Henday is the first known Euro contact? And the Lewis & Clark group was the first USA contact? Given there were no modern 'national borders' there at that that time, it hits me funny (I guess it's the way it's written). Engr105th (talk) 09:13, 31 August 2011 (UTC) On the one hand, I appreciate a great deal of scholarship and research, which is evident in this submission so far; on the other hand, as a citizen, born in southern Alberta, of Canada, I regret to inform the world, that I agree, a "lower 48 states" and pro-Yankee "Bluecoats" bias is evident in the writer's choice of words, and also the selective facts. And some of the facts, selected, by the writer, are VERY SELECTIVE FACTS. Does Wiki-land permit more objective views from north of the "Medicine L:ine" which is to say north of Line Number 49? Wiki-land will gain more credibility when it actually seeks out the inevitably different perspectives of others. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cowichanreporter (talk • contribs) 06:11, 11 June 2012 (UTC)[reply] DubiousI don't disagree that the Blackfoot hunted as far north as the North Saskatchewan River. However the claim that it's name is "Ponoka" seems fishy to me. Ponoka, Alberta is well south of the N Sask. It is much closer to the Red Deer River. Indeed the name ponoka means "elk" (aka Wapiti) in Blackfoot, and the Red Deer areas got it's name because the British traders in the area though the local wapiti looked like the red deer of Scotland. (see City of Red Deer "How Red Deer Got It's Name"). Unless there is another source for this, it should remain "dubious". --Kevlar (talk • contribs) 01:16, 14 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Blackfoot CherokeeThere is plenty of information, numerous stories and folklore on persons of the Blackfoot-Cherokee admixture of the two tribes whom lived in opposite ends of the country (USA with the Blackfoot partially located in Canada). Either the Blackfoot moved into the Southeastern USA from the Upper Plains or the Cherokee moved farther west or northward, it is known the Blackfoot Cherokee are a chapter in the story of two tribal nations when they supposedly met in the late 18th or 19th century. 71.102.13.174 (talk) 19:34, 30 March 2013 (UTC)[reply] Assessment comment
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Semi-protected edit request on 16 July 2017Error: Protected edit requests can only be made on the talk page. Rickey and Shorty Medlock were not Blackfoot......that was only the name of rickeys band...... 64.222.226.54 (talk) 23:41, 16 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 10:40, 7 December 2017 (UTC)[reply] Semi-protected edit request on 14 March 2018Error: Protected edit requests can only be made on the talk page. hi plase let me edit bu the siksika was the same thinas blacfoot. 162.246.158.210 (talk) 17:53, 14 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Are the Blackfoot recognized in South Carolina during indigenous peoples day on October 18th?I am a struggling blackfoot single mother living in Clover South Carolina and curious. Last year on october 18th, my child and i were arrested and separated by york county sc. I was sober. Just missed her school bus and was legally driving her to school. My case still going through a trial. I was beat, sexually harrassed, all my civil rights were taken, for 13 days. I need help. Angeline West (talk) 04:36, 13 September 2019 (UTC)[reply] Main image from Paul Kane painting to Blackfoot Confederacy flagError: Protected edit requests can only be made on the talk page. Fonfernan.jos (talk) 19:43, 1 June 2021 (UTC)[reply] Change main image from Paul Kane painting to flag of Blackfoot Confederacy: https://blackfootconfederacy.ca/ Members of Blackfoot Confederacy don't see themselves in this settler image.
Change main image to reflect Blackfoot ConfederacyError: Protected edit requests can only be made on the talk page. Change main image from Paul Kane's painting of Blackfoot Chiefs to Blackfoot Confederacy flag: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Blackfoot-Confederacy-1-1280x720.jpg Members from Blackfoot Confederacy don't see themselves in main image. Fonfernan.jos (talk) 17:07, 9 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Suggest removing Waiting and Mad, Charles Marion Russell, 1899Error: Protected edit requests can only be made on the talk page. Suggest removing Waiting and Mad, Charles Marion Russell, 1899. Painting of a Blackfoot woman. This is a stereotypical portrayal of Blackfoot which is not accurate--if needed it makes more sense in an independent article of colonial historical depictions of Blackfoot. Fonfernan.jos (talk) 17:12, 9 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
"Buffalo horns" listed at Redirects for discussionA discussion is taking place to address the redirect Buffalo horns. The discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 July 20#Buffalo horns until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. Blaze The Wolf | Proud Furry and Wikipedia Editor (talk) 22:56, 20 July 2021 (UTC)[reply] Origin?Why does the "Origin" link to Northeastern United States 174.31.109.130 (talk) 07:18, 3 May 2022 (UTC)[reply] Semi-protected edit request on 8 January 2024Error: Protected edit requests can only be made on the talk page. Golden globe winning actress, Lily Gladstone is Blackfoot and should be included with notable people. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lily_Gladstone 27.32.161.173 (talk) 14:16, 8 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Ronnie Radkeneeds to be added to notable people here 2603:6011:59F0:1F20:CCEC:B369:26F2:248F (talk) 21:02, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Cheyenne [8] | July 11, 2006 | B |
PopulationCan someone please update the Northern Cheyenne population. it reads as 3542 in the combined population total and is referenced as 9945 in the text.. thnksThe Northern Cheyenne Tribe reports 9,945 enrolled tribal members as of 2011. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Seger77 (talk • contribs) 07:34, 19 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Battle of Washita RiverCould the author of this great page PLEASE take a look at the account of the Battle of Washita River. It is an absolute disgrace, (it relies on Custer's own account!) and I think you are obviously the best one to sort it out. Thanks. User:86.128.122.91 01:08, 16 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]
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... Cheyenne patricia carmen ortizIs this the full title of the Cheyenne nation, or just a mistake? Gyre 01:30, 31 October 2006 (UTC)[reply] Number of Deaths at Sand CreekIt is my understanding the number of Deaths was more like 400-500. This number was later altered to about 30 to hide the obvious guilt of the parties invilved. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 67.180.32.6 (talk) 04:31, 18 April 2007 (UTC).[reply]
Cheyenne and ArapahoThis article doesn't state that the Cheyenne and Arapaho Tribes are currently united as a single nation? That's a serious omission. Badagnani 21:46, 21 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The Cheyenne and Arapaho Nation does not exist. The ceremonial ways are totally different and there has never been a Cheyenne/Arapaho Cermony. The US government put them on the same reservation because they were afraid of an uprising by the Cheyenne. The Cheyenne Tribe of Oklahoma hold there own separate ceremonies and are the Southern part of a greater United Cheyenne Nation. The omission is not serious as Arapahos are a totally different nation that include their Northern Arapaho brothers of Wyoming. [email protected] 17:15, 13 May 2007 (UTC) "related groups" info removed from infoboxFor dedicated editors of this page: The "Related Groups" info was removed from all {{Infobox Ethnic group}} infoboxes. Comments may be left on the Ethnic groups talk page. Ling.Nut 20:19, 19 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
"Custerwest" disrupting Washita articlehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Washita_River See talk page and history. He dissmisses the official American Military History[9] as "a simple website, it's not serious", removes all the findings of CMH (because "The army center of military history isn't filled of military historians about the Washita."). He also calls me "the idiot"[10], and "jerk", "Damn...jackass", "ignorant monkey", "damn idiot", "stupid bastard", and threatens to "kick" my "damn ass". [11]. If someone cares enough to get him blocked, thanks. Also, one would check his other edits, if any. --HanzoHattori 19:08, 27 June 2007 (UTC)[reply] Cheyenne article..."are a plains" groupI believe this native American group migrated out onto the plains from Minnesota area. Needs corrction. 66.224.2.131 (talk) 22:48, 12 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
PronounciationAs an Australian, I had no idea on how to pronounce the name of this people properly until I consulted with an American friend. Initially I though it must have been Chain-knee, like the former Bush administration vice president. I have meant no disrespect in my edit to the front page to include the prononciation "Shy-Anne" and I believe this will aid international visitors to the wikipedia site. Please correct my pronounciation if incorrect, or even add the international pronounciation symbols, but please don't simply revert my post, I believe it to be a valuable contribution to the front page.60.240.14.140 (talk) 15:24, 11 July 2010 (UTC)[reply] Continued contentious reverting from Isaac RabinovichUser Isaac Rabbinovich seems to be edit warring and reverting his edits in simply for the sake of reverting. This is not constructively editing the article so much as it is looking for trouble. The drive-by tags he is adding, with no explanation here on the talk page, are requesting information on dates that are already given in practically every section of the article INCLUDING the lede section. Therefore I removed them once with this explanation. Adding them in a second time seems like willful obtuseness. I am tired of reverting this editor's continued messing with this article. Til Eulenspiegel /talk/ 00:46, 4 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Requested move 2 February 2015
The result of the move request was: Not Moved No consensus for the move in this discussion. Plus there is considerable inconsistency in NA tribal related articles--many use only the TRIBENAME and many use TRIBENAME People. Per Maunus below, no clear rationale has been given to move this one to the other side of inconsistency. Mike Cline (talk) 14:31, 24 February 2015 (UTC)[reply] Cheyenne → Cheyenne people – people. Relisted. Favonian (talk) 22:30, 11 February 2015 (UTC). 76.120.164.90 (talk) 20:01, 2 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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Last edited at 07:08, 17 May 2014 (UTC). Substituted at 11:27, 29 April 2016 (UTC) Indigenous peoples in MinnesotaHow are they indigenous peoples of the Great Plains if they lived in Minnesota when first contact was made? Did they not get pushed into the plains by the expansion of the whites, offsetting the previous inhabitants in the process (who would thus have a greater claim to being indigenous to the Great Plains)? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.244.59.122 (talk) 00:16, 22 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Move discussion in progressThere is a move discussion in progress on Talk:Cheyenne Indians (baseball) which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. —RMCD bot 23:21, 30 October 2020 (UTC)[reply] Move discussion in progressThere is a move discussion in progress on Talk:Cheyenne (disambiguation) which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. —RMCD bot 20:03, 24 December 2023 (UTC)[reply] Historical Cheyenne bandsI'm moving the historical band listings from the article here just in case anyone wants to do anything with them, such as consolidate, summarize, or cite them. Yuchitown (talk) 14:24, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Northern Cheyenne bandsKnown in Cheyenne either as Notameohmésêhese or Notameohmésėhétaneo'o meaning "Northern Eaters" or simply as Ohmésêhese / Ôhmésêheseo'o meaning "Eaters".[1]
Lesser northern bands (not represented in the Council of Forty-Four):
Southern Cheyenne bandsThe Southern Cheyenne are known as the Heévâhetaneo'o, or "Roped People." They are named after the most populous band, also commonly known as Sówoniá or "the Southern People."[1]
Lesser southern bands (not represented in the Council of Forty-Four):
The ten principal bands that had the right to send four chief delegates representing them in the Council of Forty-Four were the
After the Masikota and Oo'kóhta'oná bands had been almost wiped out through a cholera epidemic in 1849, the remaining Masikota joined the Dog Soldiers warrior society (Hotamétaneo'o). They effectively became a separate band and in 1850 took over the position in the camp circle formerly occupied by the Masikota. The members often opposed policies of peace chiefs such as Black Kettle. Over time, the Dog Soldiers took a prominent leadership role in the wars against the whites. In 1867, most of the band were killed by United States Army forces in the Battle of Summit Springs. Due to an increasing division between the Dog Soldiers and the council chiefs with respect to policy towards the whites, the Dog Soldiers separated from the other Cheyenne bands. They effectively became a third division of the Cheyenne people, between the Northern Cheyenne, who ranged north of the Platte River, and the Southern Cheyenne, who occupied the area north of the Arkansas River. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Comanche [14] | Feb 12, 2006 | B |
Comanche tribeWHat were the people like? 108.53.202.140 (talk) 23:09, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Crow Nation [15] | Feb 16, 2006 | B |
Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignmentThis article is or was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment. Further details are available on the course page. Peer reviewers: Cag930. Above undated message substituted from Template:Dashboard.wikiedu.org assignment by PrimeBOT (talk) 18:43, 16 January 2022 (UTC)[reply] HistoryFor a people with such a storied history almost none is given here. I think the article would be greatly improved if someone with some knowledge of Crow history were to edit the page. I would but I am woefully ignorant of the subject (which is how I found my way here in the first place. I will have to get my sources together and add some history of their long wars with the Lakota and shorter wars with others and their alliance with the U.S. cavalry. "They moved west" is a very dry summary of what actually happened. 65.79.173.135 (talk) 20:37, 21 November 2008 (UTC)Will in New Haven65.79.173.135 (talk) 20:37, 21 November 2008 (UTC)[reply] There is no mention yet of the wars with the Lakota or the scouts who served with the U.S. Army. No mention of the Crow scouts who warned Custer before the fight on the Greasy Grass. I'm too tired right now but I will put some of this stuff in if no one else wants to. 76.28.103.69 (talk) 00:54, 8 August 2009 (UTC)Will in New Haven76.28.103.69 (talk) 00:54, 8 August 2009 (UTC)[reply] What kind of tools did they use? Weird image textWhat's up with the [[Image:|125px|Flag of The Crow Nation]] text in the infobox? Zoe (216.234.130.130 00:56, 23 December 2005 (UTC))[reply] MatriarchyI had an anthropology professor (cited in the page: Rodney Frey), an "honorary Crow member" who stated d that the Crow were polygynous prior to colonization. While I could see that, theoretically, a polygynous culture could be matriarchal, could they be matrilineal? -- Juniorvarsity
I deleted the statement that the Crow were a "matriarchal tribe (females obtaining high status, even chief)." There was no citation to support it. The fact that females obtained high status does not make the society matriarchal; otherwise the U.S. would be a matriarchal society. Female chiefs are discussed in the Chiefs section. Eterry (talk) 15:01, 12 September 2008 (UTC)[reply] "Martriarchal" is a very strong claim and I doubt it can be backed up. However, women did achieve fame and prominance among the Crow, one warrior named Pretty Shield being well-known. 65.79.173.135 (talk) 20:35, 21 November 2008 (UTC)Will in New Haven65.79.173.135 (talk) 20:35, 21 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
A source —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.21.113.162 (talk) 16:31, 19 September 2008 (UTC)[reply] BisexualityHow can all of them be bisexual? How is this known, from where does this information come and has there been any study made into this most bizzarre phenomenon? User:Vegfarandi 17:19, 14 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Buffalo jumpThe Crow article claims that a woman chief invented the buffalo jump in the 1500s, but the link to the definition of buffalo jump says that this practice became prevalent in 100 ad, before the advent of the bow and arrow. Definitely a large discrepancy.... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.63.212.132 (talk • contribs)
Jed Clampett —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.21.113.162 (talk) 16:52, 19 September 2008 (UTC)[reply] reigion- unknown —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.79.64.34 (talk) 19:42, 6 December 2008 (UTC)[reply] PD photoSee [16] and [http://lcweb2.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/I?ils:1:./temp/~pp_WzSo::displayType=1:m856sd=ppmsca:m856sf=17965:@@@il. Badagnani (talk) 23:23, 10 January 2009 (UTC)[reply] Vandalism?I've reverted these edits by User:MountainCrow1 because of the lack of punctuation in the first sentence, the strange word "biishtaasheelaa" and the "kick-in-the-bellies" part of the tribe but on further investigation the latter doesn't seem too incorrect. I'm not knowledgeable of the subject and hope that someone better informed can take a closer look and revise if necessary. Sciurinæ (talk) 16:08, 31 August 2009 (UTC)[reply] Role In Indian WarsIs there anymore information on why the Crow nation seemed to provide so many US cavalry scouts. Did the crow have many major fights with white settlers as they never seem to be mentioned in histories compared to other tribes/nations like the Lakota or Arapahoe. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.86.71.241 (talk) 14:51, 10 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
No Johnson?I feel there should be a mention of Liver Eatin' Johnson. Even if his defeat of the 20 bravest and skilled warriors in the Crow nation was untrue, the legend lives on. The movie "Jeremiah Johnson" isn't mentioned and it should be. The book "Crow Killer" should also be mentioned, can "Depiak Absaroka" be forgotten? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 152.160.97.160 (talk) 04:21, 22 July 2011 (UTC)[reply] Crow vs Raven"The Apsaalooke are also referred to as the Crow, which the white people introduced because of their lack of perfect communication. The bird that the Crow tribe is actually paired with is the raven, which is not widely known." I don't think this is accurate. Crows and Ravens are the same bird - just like the puma and mountain lion are the same animal. I also think "the white people" isn't a particularly good term to use either. Just wanted to make sure before I made any changes. Eruptflail (talk) 05:59, 2 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
File:The Scout in Winter, Crow, 1908, Edward S. Curtis (restored II).jpg to appear as POTDHello! This is a note to let the editors of this article know that File:The Scout in Winter, Crow, 1908, Edward S. Curtis (restored II).jpg will be appearing as picture of the day on November 29, 2014. You can view and edit the POTD blurb at Template:POTD/2014-11-29. If this article needs any attention or maintenance, it would be preferable if that could be done before its appearance on the Main Page. Thanks! — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:21, 8 November 2014 (UTC)[reply] A Crow man on horseback on snow-covered ground, probably in the Pryor Mountains of Montana, as photographed by Edward S. Curtis c. 1908.
The Crow had adapted horses by 1740, using them as pack animals (replacing dogs) and also to hunt bison more effectively. Soon they were known as horse breeders and dealers.Photograph: Edward S. Curtis; restoration: Keraunoscopia
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Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 14:22, 5 December 2017 (UTC)[reply] Requested move 29 August 2019
The result of the move request was: Woohoo! Another one of my favorite kind of moves! Almost everyone says to move, so even though there is no consensus for any particular title, we're still moving this article. I semi-arbitrarily choose the name originally proposed, but encourage anyone to immediately re-propose a move to either Crow Tribe or Crow tribe, and there will be no privilege granted to the title Crow people as far as being "status quo". In short, MOVED to Crow people. (non-admin closure) Red Slash 04:05, 2 October 2019 (UTC)[reply] Crow Nation → Crow people – The name of this tribe is Crow Tribe of Montana not "Crow Nation." If "nation" were retained, it should be lowercase. Since the article is primarily about the people, "Crow people" fits established naming protocols and avoids potential confusion with the crow bird. Yuchitown (talk) 16:06, 29 August 2019 (UTC) --Relisting. samee converse 18:11, 12 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Why are there are no pictures of women?By my count there are approximately 17 pictures in the article that depict people in photographs or drawings, and there is a total of about 100 people shown in those pictures. All of them appear to be men. Not just the Crow, but the non-Crow people too – they are all men. What's up with that? My calculator tells me that the chance that 100 people chosen at random will all be men is about 1 out of 1,267,650,600,228,229,401,496,703,205,376. That's a very small number. —BarrelProof (talk) 11:25, 30 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
adding redlinked individuals from main article spaceHere are redlinks I removed from the article, just in case anyone wants to create articles for these individuals. Yuchitown (talk) 20:24, 8 December 2019 (UTC)Yuchitown[reply]
Mountain Crow (Awaxilawaxamilomileaxapáakeree)
River Crow (Binnéessiippeele)
Kicked In The Bellies (Eelalapito)
Warrior women/female leaders
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Dakelh [17] | May 6, 2006 | B |
Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignmentThis article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 8 September 2020 and 18 December 2020. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): Jshen246. Above undated message substituted from Template:Dashboard.wikiedu.org assignment by PrimeBOT (talk) 18:59, 16 January 2022 (UTC)[reply] CommentsI've changed the bit about the pronounciation of Dakelh so that it is (a) in IPA and (b) correct. I don't know where the idea came from that Dakelh begins with a /k/. It doesn't. It begins with a voiceless lenis unaspirated alveolar stop, which to English speakers sounds like a /d/. (As to my authority for this, I am a professional linguist who has studied Carrier since 1992 and speak the language (with less than native fluency, of course)). It's possible that there may be controversy over the use of the terms "band" and "First Nation". What I've done is to use "First Nation" in the names of bands if they use it themselves, but to use only "band" as the name of the unit. The reason is simple: in Canada "band" is a well-defined technical term, the unit of Indian government under the Indian Act. "First Nation" appears in the names of some bands, but it does not have the meaning of "band" in and of itself. It is not meaningful to say "Under the Indian Act, a First Nation is governed by a chief and a minimum of two councillors", whereas this is true of a "band". On the other hand, it is common to refer to things like "the Carrier First Nation". This is a reference to an ethnic group, not a political unit or (as usually used) even a linguistic unit. One small point. I changed "an indigenous..." to "the indigenous..." because, in that particular area, Carrier people are the unique indigenous group. There is overlap in some border areas, but it is not an area in which multiple indigenous peoples are interspersed. Bill 16:24, 10 October 2005 (UTC)[reply] Merge Carrier Indians into this article?I think it makes sense. Any objections? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.232.114.151 (talk • contribs) 08:40, 23 September 2006 (UTC) [reply] Name "Carrier"The name "Carrier" may not be a translation but a European description of an observed custom according to some reports. In exploring BC First Nations and particularly the Carrier First Nations I have encountered an author/teacher and anthropologist Alan D. McMillan who focuses primarily on BC First Nations. He teaches anthropology at Douglas Collage in New Westminster BC. 204.244.212.151 (talk) 16:35, 16 June 2010 (UTC)He states the name "Carrier" is a European name given because of the custom for widows to carry their husband’s bones in baskets or bundles for up to 3 years to demonstrate a suitable period of mourning. In this culture it is now common to have the headstone for a deceased person set at the home of the family for a year or more as a sign of respect and while preparing for a feast to celebrate the life of the deceased person.[reply]
Table of BandsI've run into a problem adding translations to the table of bands. The first order problem is that the band names are not necessarily Carrier, e.g. "Red Bluff", and so no translation is needed. The second order problem is that even when the English name contains a Carrier word or an anglicisation of a Carrier word, that isn't necessarily what the people call themselves in Carrier. For example, "Cheslatta" is from Carrier Tsetl'adak "rock summit", the name of one village, but in Carrier Cheslatta people actually call themselves Nyan Whut'en "people of the far side of the lake". So I guess there should be columns for the English name of the band, the Carrier name, and the translation of the Carrier name, but that leaves the question of what to do about those English names that are based on Carrier words that are not the Carrier name for the band. Should that be yet another column, or be put somewhere else?Bill (talk) 03:27, 1 August 2011 (UTC)[reply] Requested Move
The result of the move request was: moved. -- BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 18:41, 3 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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Duwamish (tribe) [18] | July 12, 2006 | B |
Requested move
The result of the move request was: no consenus. Editors are reminded that WP:UNDAB is an essay which may reflect the view of one or more editors, but is neither a policy nor a guideline. In this case, editors have not accepted the proposition that the article on tribe meets the criteria set out at WP:PRIMARYTOPIC, and the nominator's assertion multiple-word titles are not candidates for the primary topic is a misreading of the policy at WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. -- BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 21:07, 17 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Despite the ongoing claims that items such as "FOO River" are PRIMARYTOPIC candidates, that is not according to guidelines; the only standalone use of Duwamish that is a PRIMARYTOPIC candidate is Duwamish tribe, whom the river was named for.Skookum1 (talk) 07:04, 11 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Vague? Inevitably.The sentence "The tribe is of moderate size with respect to moderately-sized federally-recognized Washington tribes" is marked as "vague", but it simply repeats what the source says. Since we have a ban on original research, I don't see how it can be made less vague. List_of_federally_recognized_tribes_by_state#Washington shows 29 recognized tribes, three of which have names that identify them as confederations of tribes. Besides being very laborious work, wouldn't it be impermissible synthesis under WP:NOR to look up the number of registered members of each of these & demonstrate that the Duwamish would fall somewhere near the median? Therefore, I'd like to remove the "vague" tag. The vagueness is in the sources, not in the writing. - Jmabel | Talk 04:06, 26 March 2014 (UTC)[reply] Move discussion in progressThere is a move discussion in progress on Talk:Duwamish which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. —RMCD bot 15:29, 9 April 2014 (UTC)[reply] Assessment comment
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The result of the move request was: page moved. Andrewa (talk) 23:03, 8 October 2017 (UTC)[reply] Duwamish tribe → Duwamish people – This is the disambiguation recommended by WP:ETHNICGROUP; the "tribe" terminology is mostly deprecated. Most other articles on North American peoples have already been switched, but I'm putting this one through RM as it's been the subject of several in the past. Cúchullain t/c 17:19, 29 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
ReferencesToo many comments about the existing references to include in the Edit Summary (and I freely admit I made terrible typos in the summaries). https://native-land.ca is crowd-sourced and riddled with errors. "Roxberger" should be Daniel L. Boxberger, and I've provided a proper citation and link to that book. I see the note: "Most of the following notes refer to sources listed in Bibliography for Duwamish (tribe), which also includes the sources referenced in Cheshiahud (Lake John) and History of Seattle before white settlement." That's definitely not okay. http://www.duwamishtribe.org is wp:self-published so can appear in external links but can't serve as a citation. Yuchitown (talk) 18:50, 27 December 2023 (UTC)Yuchitown[reply]
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Haida [19] | Feb 20, 2006 | B |
backgroundErm... why delete so much background data? It's so vague now... Ingoman 11:31, 14 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Better map neededThe full-continent map doesn't really give an idea of where Haida Gwaii is, because the red coloration is such a small bit of the map; wouldn't a PacNW map do better?Skookum1 05:38, 26 November 2005 (UTC)[reply] More info re: Spiritul beliefs of the Haidas, esp. as it relates to nature, would be nice.
Haida article vs Council of Haida Nation articleI'm responding to the merge request/proposal. I oppose the merger, although there's work to be done to define and delineate the appropriate content for the two articles; what seems to have been evolving across the board is a tripartite breakdown; people/culture, nation/community/government, language/culture. I haven't really looked around the Lower 48 tribes' wikipages to see how they're laid out, just going by what I've noticed in BC and WA, where there's also already been some overlap and needs to be some parameters set out as to what's in which article. Tsilhqot'in, for example, is about the people, Chilcotin language is about the language, Chilcotin is a disambig including non-First Nations usages (e.g. the region by that name) as well as the chilcotin national council or whatever they call themselves. So I think in the case of the Haida a distinction should be made between the Haida page, which should be about culture, history etc, Council of the Haida Nation for the government, Haida language for the language (prob. not written up yet so that should come out as a redlink); Kwakiutl needs a similar delineation (as Kwakawka'wakw actually refers to one of THREE Kwakiutl-culture political organizations, not simply to Kwak'wala speakers). Dropped by to add the Bringhurst cite, if it's not here already, and left my two bits.Skookum1 18:52, 30 March 2006 (UTC)[reply] Further to my opposition-to-merge above, I've been working on the lists of nations/groups/tribes and languages/culture and pueblos/reservations/communities, and am certain now that this article needs to be the separate language/culture article and the Council of the Haida Nation article should be the groups/nations; and I should also ask what people's opinions on separating culture/people from governments articles; e.g. with St'at'imc there's a distinction between Lillooet Tribal Council, N'quat'qua and In-SHUCK-ch Nation, which are all St'at'imc by culture and St'at'imcets by language but have separate governments and (now) consider themselves separate peoples/nations despite cultural and family links. In the case of the Haida this isn't so much of an issue, although I gather there's a separate political organization/identity among Alaska's Kaigani Haida. Anyway, there always needs to be a separate language article; how "culture" is to be split between that and the nations/groups articles I'm still not sure; language articles so far tend to be raw linguistics and need more lay examples/orientation anyway.Skookum1 20:50, 8 May 2006 (UTC)[reply] Non-neutral contentSeveral statements in this article contain bias. For example: "As the islands were Christianized, many cultural works such as totem posts were destroyed or taken to museums around the world. This significantly undermined Haida self-knowledge and further diminished morale." Back up opinion statements like these with credible citations, or remove them entirely. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kehodgson (talk • contribs) 19:25, 21 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Tribes and BandsDid any Canadian contribute to the original authoring of this article??? As a Canadian, it is my understanding that the word "tribe" is not used to refer to the Haida or any other First Nations people in Canada. Canada's Indian Act, R.S.C., c. I-6, s. 1. uses the word "band" to mean a First Nations group and the word "council of the band" to represent the local indigenious authority entity. If you watch any Canadian news channel, the word "band" is always used when referring to a First Nations group. Therefore I made a change in the beginning of the article and a change to the subheading "Tribal Government". This is just an important terminology issue that I like to bring up. I am sure that American wikipedians already know that Canadians use the word "Indian reserve" to mean what Americans call "Indian reservation". Furthermore, the word "First Nations" is used in Canada to mean only the full-blooded native Indians while the word "Aboriginal" is an umbrella term that Canadians use for native Indians, the mixed-blood Metis, and the Inuit (or Native Alaskans in American parlance). I also added some important Canadian legal cases involving the Haida or one that affects the Haida in Canada.User: Alf74 11:42, June 03, 2006 (UTC)
haida explorationthe article states "one account raises a reasonable possibility that Asia was even visited by Haidas before Europeans entered the Pacific." i would like to see a cite for this, if possible. Substatique 21:21, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Language classificationIt seems to me that Haida does have a classification, at least as according to the corresponding article Haida language. Since I don't have a source for that, or as to why it says in the Haida article that the language is unclassifyable as yet, what edit should be made? --Pyry 00:15, 20 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I am Haida.I was Born and raised here on Haida Gwaii.I am 21 years old. I will define what 'wasco' means. Wasco is a Sea Monster. I am very proud of my Haida Culture and am very egotistical in that matter. To some people a very showy person of pride is such an offence. I don't intend to come across as boistful, but it seems I do. In my opinion we try to do all we can for our small culture. So much as to recover human remains from a museum all the way from Chicago U.S.A, which were ' taken from the barrial-grounds on Haida Gwaii.'(on video-Stolen Spirits Of Haida Gwaii). We are still on the fight to keep our Haida Language alive. Elders in our communities are on the raise against time to teach all they can until their time is up. Our great ancestors have done alot for our culture. I stick to the history I know. Unfortunately, we didn't conquer. We cannot change history, but if you know any history or anything to help clarify anything on this page, don't be afraid to put it out there. Say it. Thank you
ReworkIn a move to simplify work on articles, and easier to read, I've helped categorizes some of the pages on Indigenous, I added sub-sections and what not. I didn't delete any of the wording present on the article already, just moved it. If you want to help rewrite and add to, thanks.OldManRivers 23:34, 29 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
In regards to the calendar, that looks a lot like the 13 month lunar calendar that was used by many cultures. How does it differ? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 134.67.6.14 (talk) 14:55, 16 July 2008 (UTC)[reply] PhotosI think photographs would make this article look much better. OldManRivers 23:34, 29 April 2007 (UTC)[reply] Some questionable content"Haidas were traditionally known as the naked fierce warriors and slave-traders… It's been said that the war helmets that were carved were by using special techniques. These techniques are unknown to anyone other than the Haida people as they have kept it secret for many years. Even to this day no one really knows how the Haida would carve their war helmets and how they looked." All uncited. - Jmabel | Talk 17:54, 23 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Language classification issue
If I'm not mistaken in the last month or two a linguistics researcher has finally pinned down connections between a Siberian language and the once-theoretical Na-Dene group, and part of the proof involved Haida as well as Tlingit and their Athabaskan neighbours; I don't know too much more, only that I heard it on CBC-Radio, normally a reliable source; I'll leave it to an ethnography/linguistics person to make the call and find the cite, though....Skookum1 (talk) 20:38, 2 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
An Hawaiian version of the story is that they came from Haida Gwaii and meet and mixed with Polynesians, who arrived later, with regular trade voyages back and forth to Haida Gwai'i and Hawai'i. There are still families in Hawaii today who claim descent from Haida people.43.245.218.13 (talk) 06:03, 30 August 2020 (UTC)[reply] This seems like a good idea, especially because of hte multiple names for the villages and th need to index their locations etc. On canadiangenaology.net I found [http://www.canadiangenealogy.net/indians/haida_indians.htm the most complete listing of villages I've seen so far; from Swanton maybe: here's the list for refernce purposes:
Small towns and camps so far as known are as follows:
Makes me wonder if the same isn't available for Kwakwaka'wakw etc; I'll look around taht site.Skookum1 (talk) 16:57, 6 June 2008 (UTC)[reply] I just happened across War Canoe which knowledgeable contributors to this article will recognize as being seriously in need of work/rewriting; made me realize taht there isnt' anarticle on Lootaas and there certainly should be; I'll try and do up a stub but I hope some more Haida-knowledgeable person will help expand it (I'll do it later, after dinner and the gym).Skookum1 (talk) 20:17, 16 June 2008 (UTC)[reply] Comparison to Imperial Japan and Mongol EmpireBeing 100% haida myself, I see nothing wrong with the comparison of haida warriors to Asian warriors. Neither were weak or submissive as the so called "warriors" from the lower 48. Native Americans such as Geronimo & Chief Joseph, who gave up they're land, people, & dignity, were weak compared to the Haidas, Tlingits, & Tsimshians. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.112.173.196 (talk) 01:07, 26 June 2010 (UTC)[reply] Yeah, because Geronimo gave up his land just like *that*. Kielbasa1 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 20:00, 9 September 2010 (UTC).[reply] Somebody keeps on re-adding a bit of WP:Synthesis that the Haida attack methods were "the same" as those used by Imperial Japan and the Mongol Empire; any number of such comparisons could be made, from Crow techniques on hte Great Plains to the way Vikings operated, or most pointedly of all the invention of the blitzkrieg by the Germans and employed with devastating effect by the Third Reich; I'd added that comparison alongside the Japanese and Mongol ones a long time ago to make a point, and teh same IP user didn't like it and took it out; fine, but no comparisons are valid in Wikipedia terms, as that's "synthesis", an analysis not supported by any documentation and inherently a fallacy anyway. It's a specious comparison and whiel it's fashionable to look for, or make, connections between Asia and the Haida, it has no basis in ethnography or proper historiographic techniques; and as noted again, there are lots of other comparison that could be made as well. What would be more relevant in this section, which given some reorganization of the article I might take the time to do, is a chronicle of the various specific wars and attacks of the Haida during their brutallization and enslavement of other peoples, and the various attacks/reprisals on fur trade ships, and on each other. To the person always adding the Japan/Mongol comparison - I'll always take it out, it doesn't belong, escept in the realm of "popular mythology about the Haida". It might also be stated, perhaps, that their treatment of slaves was far worse than anything perpetrated by Americans on their slaves, or by the Romans and Greeks on theirs - and that's a statement of fact, not some kind of glorifying mythology of the kind you're making (or thinking you're making).Skookum1 (talk) 03:02, 6 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
POV templateI had to place this because the opening of the article is not written ethnographically and in a neutral fashion, but is written to present a particular POV and political agenda about the Haida, and specifically omits mention of British Columbia as if it did not exist; it was me who re-inserted mention of Canada as it had been taken out by one of the "Haida political censors". This article needs an NPOV rewrite, and evidently (see previous section) may ultimately need semi-protection to prevent mythology and romaniticized accounts from being added adn re-added and re-added....Skookum1 (talk) 03:02, 6 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Old Masset v. Skidegate picI'm going to leave the IP user edit from the person who was born/raised in Skidegate....the source of the photo, which is in BC ARchives, says it's Old Masset - BUT that wouldn't be the first time BC Archives has had a wrong caption. Just noting these here for later if another editor checks the image description/source and sees the Old Masset attribution...someone who would know all the crests on teh poles adn teh arrangement of houses ,and theshape of the beach, will know for sure; for now I'll beileve the IP user ofver the gnoes of BC Archives who, like I said, get things wrong all the time.Skookum1 (talk) 14:01, 16 December 2008 (UTC)[reply] wikilinks removed - why?A few diffs back I had minimally rewritten a few sentences to include links I consider useful, to wit:
I am not sure why the links and these sentences were removed. If there are any factual inaccuracies, can they be corrected, so that the links (History of slavery, Dugout, etc. ) can be integrated in a sensible way? BrainyBabe (talk) 20:37, 7 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Copyvio from civilization.caI don't have time and am not in the mood (I just got up) but I found this on the civilization.ca website (Cdn government-sponsosred, i.e. Museum of Civilization in Ottawa) and much of the copy on that page is verbatim what's here, including the first part of teh phrase that somebody keeps on adding the Mongol comparison to. Seems like a lot of content here should just be deleted as copyvio....might have been well-intended even by museum staff....at some point somebody's got to create a "circular" to send out about Wikipedia practices and content rules....Skookum1 (talk) 15:17, 9 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Recent revisionsNew editor User:Mny, to whose talkpage I have added a welcome, has made substantial, but unsubstantiated, changes (see diff) to the Haida#History section. As a sign of assuming good faith, instead of making deletes or further revisions, I'd like to attempt to discuss them here first. Some claims have been added, some material removed, and other items recast. Some of these changes are useful, but others are not encyclopedic. I'll put the new material in italics below. For example: 1. A new first paragraph asserts that "Haida civilization... blends socialism and capitalism". Not only is this not sourced, but it is not referred to or explained anywhere in the section. 2. What was formerly the lead paragraph has been reworded with a POV twist, and with a link removed:
3. With reference to the possible trans-Pacific journeys, an addition has been made, but unfortunately without source
4. The paragraph about war and slaves has changed a lot:
5. In addition, this allusion to secret knowledge would seem difficult to document, and thus unencyclopedic.
6. And this material appears to have been deleted:
All of these issues need to be addressed. Please add sources, if you can. If not, much of this will have to go. BrainyBabe (talk) 12:31, 11 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
i believe the haida word for chilkat- style blankets is Naxiin (i'll try to find out for sure). for number6 i did wonder myself if it were true. i don't think that red cedar would have been the best material available for armor, and i believe it also originally stated that they were covered, or bound with elk hide, or some other non-indigenous species. which all may be true, just set off some alarm bells. number 4 (if cited) would be an interesting contribution. if such theories do exist in published form, first place i would look would be wilson duff... or maybe george mcdonald.Inforlife (talk) 18:11, 12 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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The very beginning"The Haida are an indigenous nation of the Pacific Northwest Coast of North America."
that is very rude — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:569:78E3:3400:A03A:B4D6:3114:FEC0 (talk) 01:43, 23 November 2016 (UTC)[reply] Creeping copyvio/POV?There's a lot of mumbo jumbo introduced into this article since last I looked at it; especially the affectations "Haida Empire", "Kaigani Empire", "Tsimshian Empire"...and why the Battle of Sitka, which is Tsimshian history, has been included is a bit of a non-sequitur. It strikes me that a lot of the additions seem to be "lifted" from a longer published work; very few citations have been provided for the additions, which should be reviewed and passages checked against Google for probable CopyVio...it's hard to tell where the quote from the museum quote ends and if much of the ramble that comes after is from there...there's a lot of overly grandiose claims here now, and not proper historical specifics....Skookum1 (talk) Copyright violationI just removed the paragraph starting, The Haida went to war to acquire objects of wealth, such as coppers and Chilkat blankets..., which was copied from the copyrighted book Haida Art. Pfly (talk) 03:25, 6 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
And considering what Russ George did there in coerced cooperation/ manipulation of the Haida I would think Planktos and the largest act of eco vandalism/terrorism would be mentioned all over the Haida articles.... That is what I came here to learn more about.. instead I found nothing but stubs and bickering..
Maybe "fair Use" laws don't apply to wiki... maybe yall hated the heck out of the unoriginal content... I don't know.... It seems to me though that as long as yall remain a non profit that you will not be infringe upon any copyrighted work by making money off it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.247.104.253 (talk) 03:37, 25 November 2012 (UTC)[reply] Move discussion in progressThere is a move discussion in progress on Talk:Chipewyan people which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. —RMCD bot 09:14, 12 March 2014 (UTC)[reply] Requested move
The result of the proposal was no consensus. --BDD (talk) 23:11, 1 April 2014 (UTC)[reply] Haida people → Haida – target is dab page converted from original "Haida" title by Kwami Feb 1, 2011 with no regard to UNDAB, then made into a dab page also by Kwami with no regard to PRIMARYTOPIC or UNDAB. Skookum1 (talk) 05:30, 20 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
split needed: Haida vs Haida people between ethno/history and "individuals who are/were Haida"Category:Haida people already indicates what that phrase most commonly means - "individuals who are/were Haida".....the list of modern and historically notable Haida here is growing, and will continue to grow, and as with other articles/topics of this kind, a separation is needed between the general ethno/history article and an article about individuals past and present; this is normal; the current title is not and was a fly-by-night imposition of a needless dab; the RM close was flawed in so many ways it's not worth "going at it here"....my point is that the current title is BEST suited for use as an article about "individuals who are Haida", so that they can be discussed in moredetail than the bullet-pointed list format here so far. Similarly a full List of Haida villages is much more extensive and I will split that off soon from the redirect to the villages section here that that title currently is.Skookum1 (talk) 08:00, 30 April 2014 (UTC)[reply] Assessment comment
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Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 23:25, 27 October 2017 (UTC)[reply] Organizing This ArticleHey gang! If you look at the history you may have noticed that I have recently made some... sizable changes. I rearranged many of the sections (placing warfare under culture, making religion a separate subheading under culture) and consolidated the two (why were there two?????) history sections to the best of my abilities. I also removed a great deal of repetitive and unnecessary information (information about the Haida language belongs in the Haida language wiki. The introduction still needs a great deal of work, relocating much of the information to the history or culture sections, and basically writing a whole new introduction that provides a broader overview of Haida culture The history section is also lacking details on the Lyle Island protests, the Smallpox Epidemic of 1862, the Potlatch Ban, the revitalization of Haida art in the 60s and 70s, the formation of reservations etc. There should also be a whole lot more on Haida art (totem poles, bentwood boxes, jewellery, argillite carvings etc.) I will be endeavouring to add these over the next few weeks but some help would be appreciated :) Also, do we need a whole section dedicated to the calendar? I would argue that it belongs in the Haida language wiki Lemme know what you guys think (and sorry that I made such drastic changes without coming here first, they were driving me insane) Kungjaada (talk) 00:24, 29 September 2020 (UTC)[reply] Article issues and classification
Calendar againI see from #Organizing This Article that the calendar section bothered someone enough to remove it but they don't appear to have moved it to Haida language as was suggested. So there is now a dead link from the list of calendars article. Would a regular editor of this topic resolve please? (and clear the bot notification at the top of talk:list of calendars when done.) TYVM. 𝕁𝕄𝔽 (talk) 14:53, 23 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Practice of SlaveryThe Haida went to war to acquire objects of wealth, such as coppers and Chilkat blankets, that were in short supply on the islands, but primarily for slaves, who enhanced their productivity or were traded to other tribes. High-ranking captives were also the source of other property received in ransom such as crest designs, dances and songs.[26]https://www.historymuseum.ca/cmc/exhibitions/aborig/haida/havwa01e.html This continued well into the colonial period of the 19th Century despite, and in resistance to, slavery being banned in the British Empire and more specifically in Canada. 2A02:C7C:7257:5000:35A6:71D7:9FD4:1D08 (talk) 16:57, 30 June 2023 (UTC)[reply] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Havasupai [27] | Jan 30, 2007 | B |
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Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 08:35, 31 October 2017 (UTC)[reply] Total PopulationThe article currently states that the total population is about 650. However, I don't see any sources cited to support this. A New York Times Article from 2017 (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/23/us/havasupai-native-american-tribe-school-lawsuit-arizona.html) cited a Havasupai lawsuit in which it was stated that there were about 730 enrolled members of the tribe. Would this qualify as a reliable source? --Larry/Traveling_Man (talk) 19:32, 4 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
About Havasupai people and life safety in 2007In the Arizona Daily Sun there seemed to be some kind of dispute as whether there was rising crime among the Havasupai... I haven't delved into it too much but this is what I found:
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Mandan, Hidatsa, and Arikara Nation [28] | Jan 30, 2007 | B |
UntitledThe European influence "theories" on the Mandan tribe are highly speculative and at least a little racist. Any mention of them in this article should not advance them as anything but a marginal theory. --Alexwcovington (talk) 23:02, 24 Feb 2005 (UTC) The European theories are highly speculative. I have rewritten this article several times to downplay them. Someone keeps changing it to give those theories more importance AND to add racism to the article, which is misleading. Why not leave the article as factual and neutral as possible?
Take a look at the change I made today. The problem I had with your wording was that it said the Mandan/Madoc theory was advanced due to racism. I can't find that anywhere in any of the readings I've done, and, in fact, the article we've been playing with was the only one mentioning racism. I have no problem saying the theory is speculative and unproven, which it is.
Hidatsa+Atsina->Gros VentresJust curious about Mandan/Arikara re Hidatsa; I found this page by looking up Gros Ventres, of which the Hidatsa are one part (the other are the Atsina). Also wanted to comment that at some point there's got to be a different "Hidatsa" article, as that's also the name of one of the initiatory longhouse secret societies in Pacific Northwest Coast cultures; I think the word is Kwak'wala, I'm not sure.Skookum1 05:45, 10 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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Shawnee [29] | Jul 28, 2006 | B |
RACISTThere's some RACIST stuff at the beginning. Can't get to it to edit it.
Requested moveThe root name Shawnee is just a redirect to Shawnee (tribe). There's no reason to use the (tribe) disambiguation when the simpler root name is unused. --Kevin Myers July 8, 2005 13:51 (UTC)
Blue Jacket & native namesFolks, was it really so horrible to have "Blue Jacket's" native name (Weyapiersenwah) written in this article? I can accept that it's Wikipedia's policy to link English wikis with the English name. I don't agree, but I can accept it. Still, I see no need to wipe out that bit of knowledge from this article, just because there's a more commonly used name for him which he might not have even used himself. SwissCelt 06:51, 3 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Absentee Shawnee?Saw mention of "Absentee Shawnee" somewhere. If anyone knows anything, I would love to see a bit of info on what the "Absentee Shawnee" were. Thanks. jengod 06:43, July 16, 2005 (UTC)
AdditionHi, i added a lot of stuff, the thing is, i couldn't verify most of it by the meaning of written words, most of my information comes from the internet. I tried to crosscheck the in formation from various pages to be a bit more on the safe side. if anyone has suggestions regarding the content, please let me know... And please, as i am not a native speaker, look over the text for grammatical errors, as i am sure there are plenty. Here are some of the links i used : and of course the relating pages of wikipedia... --Larzan 17:15, 23 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Another questionHi, I was looking for some information about book I have read, I just wanted to know something about tribe it describes and what was historical background, however it took more time than I expected (due to fact that my native language is written as it`s spoken and I couldn`t work out how keywords should acctualy be spelled). I found out that tribe is shawnee, but this makes that book wierd - because it takes place in northen Canada near Great bear lake, but it seems that shawnee lived in teritory of USA and author (book is about his childhood) claims that he is great grand son of Tecumseh. Well, book also tells about fiting with engish army (?) and that tribe were hiding for years until white people found them again, but I couldn`t find anything about that, so I still haven`t found anything about historical background. If you have some information about this please tell me about it on my talk page Xil 17:07, 10 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Fort Ancient CultureI have read elsewhere (e.g., on the Fort Ancients wiki page) that many archaeologists believe the Shawnee to be descendants of the Fort Ancients. Should that be mentioned here? Also there is no mention of the Shawnee's apparent relation to the Kickapoo. Thanks, Doppelbock 12:20, 12 May 2006 (UTC)[reply] Kymulga,AlListed as former site of Shawnee village here is link to that location where a gristmill and covered bridge are still located today. http://kymulgapark.tripod.com/ ~~willy76.200.209.128 20:33, 17 April 2007 (UTC)[reply] Shawnee In KentuckyI believe that the Shawnee town of Eskippakithiki in Kentucky should be mentioned in this article, Black Hoof was born there. It is located in Clark County, Kentucky and also known as Indian Old Fields. The Shawnee attacks on Fort Boonesboro should most definitely be mentioned, especially the siege led by Dragging Canoe who was half Shawnee/Cherokee I as a resident of Clark County and a decendant of Shawnee I would also like to let everyone know that Eskippakithiki is in danger of being totally destroyed by a highway interchange project. It needs to be protected and surveyed extensively. I can provide all historical research and archaeological surveys regarding this site. - 64.16.162.161 03:18, 10 May 2007 (UTC)Kevin Moody, [email protected][reply]
Category:Shawnee tribe is itself a category within Category:Algonquian peoples. — Robert Greer (talk) 22:17, 22 April 2009 (UTC)[reply] Orphaned references in ShawneeI check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of Shawnee's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article. Reference named "jones":
I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT⚡ 01:02, 2 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
112.com Truong Gia Bao112 (talk) 10:03, 8 March 2023 (UTC)[reply] 3334 Truong Gia Bao112 (talk) 10:04, 8 March 2023 (UTC)[reply] 221 Truong Gia Bao112 (talk) 10:18, 8 March 2023 (UTC)[reply] Cornstalk's fatherIf anyone knows where the original information about Cornstalk's father (White Fish (Shawnee: Akulusska)) living and "holding court" in Shawnee Springs ca. 1754 came from, please ping me. I'm working on the Cornstalk page and trying to track down as many original sources as possible. Thanks MinervaK (talk) 23:35, 1 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Langguth referenceWhat's the Langguth reference? Every appearance of the word is in citation of the format "Langguth, p. _" — a full citation is never given in any citation or in the bibliography. Nyttend (talk) 16:14, 10 September 2011 (UTC)[reply] Battle of Tippecanoe absentThe Battle of Tippecanoe in November 1811 is absent from this rendering of the Shawnee.Donalds (talk) 15:29, 12 October 2011 (UTC)[reply] No Battle of Tippecanoe, and also unnecessary long quoteI was notified for disruptive editing, so here I am. Anyways, in the history section of this article, the quote from Tecumseh's speech seems extraneous. It doesn't add much information, and it's unusually long. In my opinion, we could probably just omit the quote altogether (this was the majority of my reverted edit). As noted by Donalds, there is essentially no mention of the Battle of Tippecanoe in this article, despite that the fact that it's probably the most significant battle related to Tecumseh. Adding a paragraph about that (between the section on Tecumseh's speech and the section on the New Madrid Earthquake) would be nice. OmgItsTheSmartGuy (talk) 04:34, 28 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 04:40, 14 December 2017 (UTC)[reply] Kinship systemsI agree with the notation that indicates that a better source for Shawnee kinship is needed. Also a quick aside. The kinship system described in the article is not consistent with Patriarchy. It is a Tanistry system that is described (younger brothers, or sister's sons are the ones to inherit). 01:10, 14 February 2022 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Anthrosystems (talk • contribs) Commons files used on this page or its Wikidata item have been nominated for deletionThe following Wikimedia Commons files used on this page or its Wikidata item have been nominated for deletion: Participate in the deletion discussions at the nomination pages linked above. —Community Tech bot (talk) 01:22, 26 May 2022 (UTC)[reply] Semi-protected edit request on 7 March 2023Error: Protected edit requests can only be made on the talk page. Hidgggf (talk) 05:29, 7 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Semi-protected edit request on 8 March 2023Error: Protected edit requests can only be made on the talk page. Indigenous peoples of the Northeastern Woodlands, based in Oklahoma This page is about the American Indian group. For other uses, see WikiProject Indigenous peoples of North America/Article Assessment (disambiguation).
{{Infobox ethnic group | group = Shawnee | image = File:Shawnee Prophet, Tenskwatawa.jpg | caption = ''The Shawnee Prophet, [[Tenskwatawa]]'' (1775–1836), ca. 1820, portrait by [[Charles Bird King]] | population = 7,584 enrolled<ref name="oic">Oklahoma Indian Affairs Commission. [http://www.ok.gov/oiac/Publications/index.html ''Oklahoma Indian Nations Pocket Pictorial''.] {{webarchive|url=https://web.archive.org/web/20090211145522/http://www.ok.gov/oiac/Publications/index.html |date=February 11, 2009 }} 2008.</ref> | popplace = {{Flag|United States}} ({{Flag|Oklahoma}}), formerly {{Flag|Ohio }}, {{Flag|West Vigrnia}},{{Flag|Virgnia}}, {{Flag|Pennsylvania}}, {{Flag|Indiana}}, and surrounding states<ref name=c623>Callender, "Shawnee," 623.</ref><ref name="oic"/> | langs = [[Shawnee language|Shawnee]], English | }} Đay chi la thay doi nho Truong Gia Bao112 (talk) 09:57, 8 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Anishinaabe [39] | Apr 8, 2006 | Start |
AmericentricDespite the fact that most of the Anishinaabe range is/was in Canada, this article makes no mention of relations with the Canadian/British government, nor how they were treated [here]. Not trying to sound anti-American, I just feel it is an important aspect.
AnishininiTrying to stay consistent, I changed the part that said the Anishinini were not Anishinaabe. Currently, Anishinini and Oji-Cree redirect to Nishnawbe-Aski. In the text it states:
I'm sure if you asked 100 Anishinini people if they considered themselves Anishinaabe, 95 would say "what?" or "who cares?" but I think they would be more concerned that a distinction is made with the Ojibwe. Anishinaabe being a more inclusive term would probably be okay. Of course, I am not a member of the Nishnawbe-Aski Nation, and I am speculating here. Someone who knows better is welcome to revert this, but I thought with the Saulteaux using Nakawē, referring to oneself by the word Anishinaabe is not a prerequisite for being included in that group. Besides, if Nishnawbe is becoming the preferred term, there's your cognate right there. Thoughts???? (Leo1410 19:49, 15 September 2006 (UTC))[reply] The "Nishnawbe Aski Nation" is called Anishinaabe Aski Ishkonigaanan Ogimaawin (Fully pointed: ᐊᓂᐦᔑᓈᐯ ᐊᔥᑭ ᐃᔅᑯᓂᑳᓇᓐ ᐅᑭᒫᐎᓐ/Commonly: ᐊᓂᔑᓇᐯ ᐊᔥᑭ ᐃᔅᑯᓂᑲᓇᓐ ᐅᑭᒪᐎᓐ) in Anishinaabemowin/Anishininimowin/Nehinâmowin. Take a look at Treaty 9 and NAN's website. (You will need a UCAS-ranged UniCode font to read the syllabics.) However, I am not quite convinced the article is accurate. Unfortunately, I am more familiar with Anishinaabe communities in the US and some of the Canadian Treaty 3 First Nations, so I really cannot make an input to that matter, and my resources regarding Treaty 9 Nations are limited to the internet and one 54-paged booklet. So with that said, any rewording would be fine. However, every Wikipedia article would need to be referenced to something... preferably a written document, but in case of oral history, which Wikipedia shy away, but with documentation of interviews, even oral histories are possible. See the Wikipedia's article guidelines for details. CJLippert 00:59, 22 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Relations section has problemsGenerally it is not in an encyclopedic tone, specifically it falls in to a rant at paragraph four and beyond. It doesn't agree with the singular/plural scheme established by the beginning of the page. It uses only one source. The sentence structure is sometimes REALLY awkward ("they will not allow those that lived in this land before them to honor their own dead and, after traveling the trail of life, to be able to lie down beside them" is a massive run-on setence. I *think* it's trying to say something like "Settlers passed legislation preventing Anishinabeg from visiting their ancestral dead. They further limited the expression of Anishinabeg culture by preventing traditional burials," but I'm *not sure*. Nor could I defend this changing of the sentence, because I don't even know if the current is historically correct as it seems to be referring to a newspaper article at http://www.saulttribe.com/index.php, which only has archives back to 2005). I'm not well read enough to make any changes, but the relations section needs some serious editing for content, style and references. comments by 71.221.24.26
Needs sourcesThere are few articles on Native Americans/First Nations that are as poorly sourced as this one. It will be difficult to make progress without valid third-party sources, preferably academic studies, of which there have been many.--Parkwells (talk) 16:58, 30 December 2009 (UTC)[reply] The Algonkin do not use the word Omàmiwinini to distinguish themselves from other Anishinaabe.I dont know why anyone would put this but it is obviously not correct. The term was used historically as a regional grouping of people along the St. Lawrence but it is not used by modern Anishinaabe people in the Abitibi region of Quebec. They readily identify themselves as Anishinaabe/Anishinaabekwe. The word might be used in Kitigan zibi but these people speak a different dialect than those in Abitibi and also represent a historically distinct group of Anishinaabe people. I removed the statement since there is no evidence that the so called Algonquin distinguish themselves from other Anishinaabe people and it didn't have any citation either. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.217.214.194 (talk) 14:24, 16 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Anishinaabe Vs Anishinaabek(g)What is the reason this page is titled Anishinaabe? When Anishinaabek(g) is the name of the people (The original/first people) On the other hand Anishinaabe is a person (one of the people). I was surprised to see "more properly" Anishinaabeg or Anishinabek. Why is this considered more proper? Then I thought maybe this is a "qualifying sentence" stating that the "proper" name of these people wasn't used? New to Wikipedia and just wondering. - Niineta (talk) 23:45, 28 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Three FiresOjibway, Ottawa, and Potawatomi (Faith keepers, Traders, and Fire keepers) originated following the second stop (Niagara) of the migration, when it became necessary to hold council to deal with the aftermath of Iroquios aggression, and to determine future actions (which includes conflicts with Sauk and Fox on the Southern Michigan peninsula, as well as deal with separation from the main body after the third stop (Detroit) and rejoining at the fourth stop at Manitoulin Island). This has been estimated to have occurred between the years 900 and 1200 A.D. using records found at Madeline Island. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.235.189.48 (talk) 03:23, 6 September 2013 (UTC)[reply] Historical relations between the Anishinaabeg and European settlers"Warfare cost many lives on both sides." What the fuck kind of milquetoast, unref'd whitewashing garbage is this? Assessment comment
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The ShawneeHow does the Shawnee Nation fit in it? What from I understand they consider the Lenape 'their fathers' and the Algonquin consider them their southern branch correct? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.170.134.154 (talk) 07:06, 1 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry my bad, Algonquian not Algonquin that explains a lot. --108.170.134.154 (talk) 04:07, 2 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 09:36, 14 October 2016 (UTC)[reply] MandweA section on this page states that the "Mandwe" (I've also seen it spelled Mandaawe, or Mundua in Warren's history) who were incorporated by the Anishinaabe in oral history were originally part of the Fox/Meskwaki people. What is the source on this? I am unable to find any information linking the Mandaawe to any other group. Thanks in advance. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ValiantStag (talk • contribs) 18:44, 11 April 2019 (UTC)[reply] CultureAt present, the culture section focuses entirely on historical culture and specific actions (e.g., slavery and cannibalism). There is no mention of present-day culture or traditions. I've added the Teachings of the Seven Grandfathers and Storytelling, but it'd be good to still expand upon this section further.Significa liberdade (talk) 22:54, 30 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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Babine [40] | May 6, 2006 | Start |
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Cayuga Nation | November 26, 2007 | Start | Talk:Cayuga Nation/Comments ([http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php? title=Talk:Cayuga_Nation/Comments&action=edit edit comment]) | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Chichimeca [42] | May 11, 2006 | Start | Talk:Chichimeca/Comments (edit comment) | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Chipewyan [43] | May 10, 2006 | Start | Talk:Chipewyan/Comments (edit comment) | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Chiricahua [44] | May 10, 2006 | Template:Start-Class | Talk:Chiricahua/Comments (edit comment) | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Chumash [45] | May 11, 2006 | Template:Start-Class | Talk:Chumash/Comments (edit comment) | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Clatsop [46] | May 10, 2006 | Template:Start-Class | Talk:Clatsop/Comments (edit comment) | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Coeur D'Alene Tribe [47] | Feb 17, 2006 | Template:Start-Class | Talk:Coeur D'Alene Tribe/Comments (edit comment) | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Cupeño [48] | May 11, 2006 | Template:Start-Class | Talk:Cupeño/Comments (edit comment) | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Dunneza [49] | May 11, 2006 | Template:Start-Class | Talk:Dunneza/Comments (edit comment) | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Erielhonan [50] | May 14, 2006 | Template:Start-Class | Talk:Erielhonan/Comments (edit comment) | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Ho-Chunk [51] | Feb 2, 2007 | Template:Start-Class | Talk:Ho-Chunk/Comments (edit comment) | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Hupa [52] | March 1, 2007 | Template:Start-Class | Talk:Hupa/Comments (edit comment) | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Innu [53] | May 9, 2006 | Template:Start-Class | Talk:Innu/Comments (edit comment) | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Lipan Apache [54] | July 28, 2007 | Template:Start-Class | Talk:Lipan Apache/Comments (Apache/Comments&action=edit edit comment) | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Palus (tribe) [55] | May 6, 2006 | Template:Start-Class | Talk:Palus/Comments (edit comment) | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Yuchi [56] | June 22, 2007 | Template:Start-Class | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Accohannock [57] | May 11, 2006 | Template:Stub-Class | Talk:Accohannock/Comments (edit comment) | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Achomawi [58] | May 11, 2006 | Template:Stub-Class | Talk:Achomawi/Comments (edit comment) | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Adai [59] | May 11, 2006 | Template:Stub-Class | Talk:Adai/Comments (edit comment) | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Alabama (people) [60] | May 11, 2006 | Template:Stub-Class | Talk:Alabama (people)/Comments (edit comment) | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Arikara [61] | May 11, 2006 | Template:Stub-Class | Talk:Arikara/Comments (edit comment) | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Assiniboine [62] | May 12, 2006 | Template:Stub-Class | Talk:Assiniboine/Comments (edit comment) | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Atfalati [63] | May 11, 2006 | Template:Stub-Class | Talk:Atfalati/Comments (edit comment) | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Atikamekw [64] | Mar 17, 2007 | Template:Stub-Class | Talk:Atikamekw/Comments (edit comment) | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Atsina [65] | May 9, 2006 | Template:Stub-Class | Talk:Atsina/Comments (edit comment) | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Bannock (tribe) [66] | May 8, 2006 | Template:Stub-Class | Talk:Bannock (tribe)/Comments (edit comment) | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Brulé [67] | May 11, 2006 | Template:Stub-Class | Talk:Brulé/Comments (edit comment) | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Cayuse [68] | May 10, 2006 | Template:Stub-Class | Talk:Cayuse/Comments (edit comment) | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Chicora tribe [69] | May 11, 2006 | Template:Stub-Class | Talk:Chicora tribe/Comments (edit comment) | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Chilula [70] | May 10, 2006 | Template:Stub-Class | Talk:Chilula/Comments (edit comment) | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Chimariko [71] | May 10, 2006 | Template:Stub-Class | Talk:Chimariko language/Comments (edit comment) | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Chinookan [72] | May 10, 2006 | Template:Stub-Class | Talk:Chinookan/Comments (edit comment) | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Comox [73] | May 6, 2006 | Template:Stub-Class | Talk:Comox people/Comments (edit comment) | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Coos [74] | May 6, 2006 | Template:Stub-Class | Talk:Coos (tribe)/Comments (edit comment) | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Coquille [75] | Feb 12, 2006 | Template:Stub-Class | Talk:Coquille (tribe)/Comments (edit comment) | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Deg Hit’an [76] | Mar 14, 2007 | Template:Stub-Class | Talk:Deg Hit’an/Comments (edit comment) | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Dena’ina [77] | May 10, 2006 | Template:Stub-Class | Talk:Dena’ina/Comments (edit comment) | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Gitxsan Nation [78] | Jan 30, 2006 | Template:Stub-Class | Talk:Gitxsan Nation/Comments (edit comment) | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Gros Ventres [79] | May 10, 2006 | Template:Stub-Class | Talk:Gros Ventres/Comments (edit comment) | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Gwich'in [80] | May 9, 2006 | Template:Stub-Class | Talk:Gwichʼin/Comments (edit comment) | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Haisla [81] | May 9, 2006 | Template:Stub-Class | Talk:Haisla/Comments (edit comment) | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Hidatsa [82] | Jan 30, 2007 | Template:Stub-Class | Talk:Hidatsa/Comments (edit comment) | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Holikachuk [83] | March 1, 2007 | Template:Stub-Class | Talk:Holikachuk/Comments (edit comment) | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Hopi [84] | Feb 16, 2006 | Template:Stub-Class | Talk:Hopi/Comments (edit comment) | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Lipan Apache | July 7, 2006 | Template:Stub-Class | Talk:Lipan Apache/Comments (edit comment) | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Monacan [85] | June 22, 2007 | Template:Stub-Class | Talk:Monacan/Comments (edit comment) | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Coast Salish [86] | May 6, 2006 | Merge or Delete | Talk:Coast Salish/Comments (edit comment) |
Regional/National Governments and Organizations
Canadian content in this listing is per the First Nations Information Project Directory, which may be out of date. This table may be combined with the Reservations/Pueblos table. Skookum1 01:58, 14 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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Attacullaculla [87] | June 22, 2007 | Template:Start-Class | Talk:Attacullaculla/Comments (edit comment) |
Nicola (chief) [88] | 21 January 2007 | Template:Start-Class | Needs independent review/improvement (I wrote it).Skookum1 19:44, 21 January 2007 (UTC)[reply] (edit comment) |
Billy Bowlegs III [89] | Dec 2, 2006 | Template:Stub-Class | Talk:Billy Bowlegs III/Comments (edit comment) |
Pushmataha [] | Apr, 2008 | Template:Stub-Class | {{edit comment]) |
Apuckshunubbee [] | Apr, 2008 | Template:Stub-Class | {{edit comment]) |
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Greenwood LeFlore [] | Apr, 2008 | Template:Stub-Class | {{edit comment]) |
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George W. Harkins [] | Apr, 2008 | Template:Stub-Class | {{edit comment]) |
Sherman Alexie [] | Apr, 2008 | Template:Stub-None | {{edit comment]) |
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Culture and linguistics
Suggestion: another colour-code for entries which combine people/nation and language and should be separated; currently given blue start class and a few higher than that, but should be "marked" in the table as projects for delineation/separation. Would do this myself at present but fielding idea at other editors first... Skookum1 18:32, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
Historical & military
A much more extensive list found at the List of United States Military History Events should eventually be integrated below here; and all on it should have stubs, since many don't. Some redlinks in place may turn out to be redirects to other items already listed; I'm not qualified to decide which name should be used, or in fact what connects to what. Tasks needed should probably include redirect possibilities in all cases when known, from spelling variations to alternate names. Canadian, Mexican and Russian American Wars should all be listed; a separate section on wars between native peoples (if such articles exist) might be created, or they could be put here as well. Skookum1 06:37, 14 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Archæological and Cultural
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