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::::The term hacker has a negative connotation, and implies illegal behavior See the more common reference [[Hacker (computer security)]]. Regardless of possible explanations, you never suggest someone has a mental illness. Such claims are highly offensive. Its similar to going up to a female who is overweight, and asking if she is pregnant. Regardless of your suspicions you ''never'' ask the woman "Oh when are you due?" [[User:Werieth|Werieth]] ([[User talk:Werieth|talk]]) 19:08, 2 July 2014 (UTC) |
::::The term hacker has a negative connotation, and implies illegal behavior See the more common reference [[Hacker (computer security)]]. Regardless of possible explanations, you never suggest someone has a mental illness. Such claims are highly offensive. Its similar to going up to a female who is overweight, and asking if she is pregnant. Regardless of your suspicions you ''never'' ask the woman "Oh when are you due?" [[User:Werieth|Werieth]] ([[User talk:Werieth|talk]]) 19:08, 2 July 2014 (UTC) |
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::::: Are all people in [[List of hackers]] personally attacked? I get there from [[Hacker (computer security)]]. But there is no [[List of overweight women]] or [[List of pregnant women]] or [[List of dying people]]. |
::::: Are all people in [[List of hackers]] personally attacked? I get there from [[Hacker (computer security)]]. But there is no [[List of overweight women]] or [[List of pregnant women]] or [[List of dying people]]. |
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::::::That is a case of [[WP:V]], we can verify that those claims. Your statements accusing others of being a hacker fall into [[WP:OR]] or opinion. If we where to make claims about someone being a hacker and not be able to provide verifiable evidence you get into the liable/slander territories. Its similar to making claims that someone has committed a crime, while legally they where never convicted of it. [[User:Werieth|Werieth]] ([[User talk:Werieth|talk]]) 19:27, 2 July 2014 (UTC) |
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::: BTW, I saw a [[Truth_in_Numbers%3F|documentary about Wikipedia]] and there was stated that many editors has Asperger syndrome. If the word is correct enough for the movie, if must be Ok for internal Wikipedia conversations, right? <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/92.101.35.131|92.101.35.131]] ([[User talk:92.101.35.131|talk]]) 19:11, 2 July 2014 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
::: BTW, I saw a [[Truth_in_Numbers%3F|documentary about Wikipedia]] and there was stated that many editors has Asperger syndrome. If the word is correct enough for the movie, if must be Ok for internal Wikipedia conversations, right? <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/92.101.35.131|92.101.35.131]] ([[User talk:92.101.35.131|talk]]) 19:11, 2 July 2014 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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::::No, Documentaries are not always accurate or put things in the correct context. Reminds me of an example where PETA villainized farmers for picking cows up with forklifts and moving them. What PETA failed to also mention is that if a cow sits for a persistent period that it will kill the animal. Keep in mind that unlike a household pet cows weight about 750Kg. You cannot just pick one of those up, thus in order to get a cow back on its feet and keep it alive mechanical force is needed. Farmers do not do it out of malice but out of love to keep the animals alive. However the way PETA often portrays it, it is not accurate. And besides that, the content of documentaries are not subject to wikipedia policies. While your comments here are. [[User:Werieth|Werieth]] ([[User talk:Werieth|talk]]) 19:21, 2 July 2014 (UTC) |
::::No, Documentaries are not always accurate or put things in the correct context. Reminds me of an example where PETA villainized farmers for picking cows up with forklifts and moving them. What PETA failed to also mention is that if a cow sits for a persistent period that it will kill the animal. Keep in mind that unlike a household pet cows weight about 750Kg. You cannot just pick one of those up, thus in order to get a cow back on its feet and keep it alive mechanical force is needed. Farmers do not do it out of malice but out of love to keep the animals alive. However the way PETA often portrays it, it is not accurate. And besides that, the content of documentaries are not subject to wikipedia policies. While your comments here are. [[User:Werieth|Werieth]] ([[User talk:Werieth|talk]]) 19:21, 2 July 2014 (UTC) |
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July 2014
You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you make personal attacks on other people, as you did at Wikipedia:Archive.is RFC 3. Comment on content, not on fellow editors. Werieth (talk) 18:14, 2 July 2014 (UTC)
- Werieth Sorry, in my mother language "our son of a bitch" has positive connotation of "ally tough guy". Everybody here knows history of the proxy wars. Just "son of a bitch" is negative.
- that was actually the the least of the PA's that where made. Referring to anyone as an autist or hacker is offensive. Accusations of mental issues is very serious and should never be done. Comment on the content, not users. Werieth (talk) 18:49, 2 July 2014 (UTC)
- Hacker (programmer subculture) is definitively positive. Autist is a possible explanation of lack of the communication. So, "a reticent tough fan of computers".
- The term hacker has a negative connotation, and implies illegal behavior See the more common reference Hacker (computer security). Regardless of possible explanations, you never suggest someone has a mental illness. Such claims are highly offensive. Its similar to going up to a female who is overweight, and asking if she is pregnant. Regardless of your suspicions you never ask the woman "Oh when are you due?" Werieth (talk) 19:08, 2 July 2014 (UTC)
- Are all people in List of hackers personally attacked? I get there from Hacker (computer security). But there is no List of overweight women or List of pregnant women or List of dying people.
- That is a case of WP:V, we can verify that those claims. Your statements accusing others of being a hacker fall into WP:OR or opinion. If we where to make claims about someone being a hacker and not be able to provide verifiable evidence you get into the liable/slander territories. Its similar to making claims that someone has committed a crime, while legally they where never convicted of it. Werieth (talk) 19:27, 2 July 2014 (UTC)
- Are all people in List of hackers personally attacked? I get there from Hacker (computer security). But there is no List of overweight women or List of pregnant women or List of dying people.
- The term hacker has a negative connotation, and implies illegal behavior See the more common reference Hacker (computer security). Regardless of possible explanations, you never suggest someone has a mental illness. Such claims are highly offensive. Its similar to going up to a female who is overweight, and asking if she is pregnant. Regardless of your suspicions you never ask the woman "Oh when are you due?" Werieth (talk) 19:08, 2 July 2014 (UTC)
- BTW, I saw a documentary about Wikipedia and there was stated that many editors has Asperger syndrome. If the word is correct enough for the movie, if must be Ok for internal Wikipedia conversations, right? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.101.35.131 (talk) 19:11, 2 July 2014 (UTC)
- No, Documentaries are not always accurate or put things in the correct context. Reminds me of an example where PETA villainized farmers for picking cows up with forklifts and moving them. What PETA failed to also mention is that if a cow sits for a persistent period that it will kill the animal. Keep in mind that unlike a household pet cows weight about 750Kg. You cannot just pick one of those up, thus in order to get a cow back on its feet and keep it alive mechanical force is needed. Farmers do not do it out of malice but out of love to keep the animals alive. However the way PETA often portrays it, it is not accurate. And besides that, the content of documentaries are not subject to wikipedia policies. While your comments here are. Werieth (talk) 19:21, 2 July 2014 (UTC)
- Hacker (programmer subculture) is definitively positive. Autist is a possible explanation of lack of the communication. So, "a reticent tough fan of computers".
- that was actually the the least of the PA's that where made. Referring to anyone as an autist or hacker is offensive. Accusations of mental issues is very serious and should never be done. Comment on the content, not users. Werieth (talk) 18:49, 2 July 2014 (UTC)