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RE:List of songs in English labeled the worst ever

I've now changed it so that it is a major edit.

NOT ADVERTISING - PERTINENT ARTIST INFORMATION - PLEASE REVIEW

Hi I emailed you last week with no response - I've pasted it below for your reference.

Since you did not respond, I re-added our link to the Francis and Dine pages which you've already removed. If you had done your research, you would have noticed that 6 of the Sam Francis works on one of your "listed links" (Sam Francis (artfacts)) are from OUR SITE and are currently in OUR GALLERY INVENTORY. PLEASE REVIEW (http://www.novakart.com/Artist-Detail.cfm?ArtistsID=355). You also would have noticed that the 4th link (Sam Francis Art Prints) has artwork from a different Sam Francis artist and not the one in question.

(original email) Hi~ I understand you are the main writer/contributor for the arts section in Wikipedia. Great job! I am new to all of this so I apologize if I've overstepped any boundaries.

I added our link (Jonathan Novak Contemporary Art) to a couple of the art pages thinking it might be helpful to users - not for advertising purposes - but noticed the link had been removed. My co-worker then told me he received a message from you while he was researching something off-topic. Maybe I added it to too many pages which made it look suspicious.

Will you consider adding a link to our gallery for the artists Sam Francis and Jim Dine for the following reasons: - We represent the Estate and have close affiliation with them. - We have a direct connection to the SF Estate - When the Estate will not deal with someone, they send them to us - We are a main source for authenticating Sam Francis works and history/provenance searches. - We also have the largest inventory of a variety of Sam Francis works including works on canvas, paper, prints/lithos, monotypes, screenprints, trial proofs, etc. - direct Francis page link - http://www.novakart.com/Artist-Detail.cfm?ArtistsID=355 - these are just the works we list on the site.

As far as Jim Dine goes: We represent the artist http://www.novakart.com/Artist-Detail.cfm?ArtistsID=369

I originally added the link to our home page www.novakart.com because the other links (on wikipedia) were broken and they were all directed to a page within a site. I thought the best way to keep the link solid was to use the main page.

Thank you for your time and consideration. Please feel free to email me if you have any questions.

Maegan Jonathan Novak Contemporary Art
—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Novakart (talk • contribs) .

Providing Diffs

I take it that in order to provide diffs I go to the history page and click "last" under the person's edit? Am I correct?

Let's get you a bot, friend

Here's the code for Wedernabot, I can put it in your talk page if you want.

|- |This talk page is '''automatically archived''' by Werdnabot. Any sections older than '''4''' days are automatically archived to '''[[User talk:Yanksox/archive5]]'''. Sections with less than two timestamps (that have not been replied to) are not archived. |- |}{{User:Werdnabot/Archiver/Linkhere}}  Truly, Yank sox 02:40, 14 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Wow, I was digging around my archives, and found this[1], wow, how I've changed...kind of. :P Yank sox 02:50, 14 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed, I messed up the code. Yank sox 03:04, 14 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It can be altered, but it's more important to update the code, since that's what actually matters. I'll change it to 30 days for you. Timestamp is refering to the date and time at the end of a sig, Werdnabot, usually doesn't pick stuff up that doesn't have a time stamp. Yank sox 03:08, 14 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for you most kind comments. Um, I'm not 100% sure, as of late, I've been manuelily (I don't think that's spelt right) archiving talks. If any issues arise you should talk to the bot's owner, Werdna. Thanks, and hope to hear from you soon, Yank sox 03:13, 14 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for pointing that out, late hours and crummy New England weather can do that. :) Yank sox 03:18, 14 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Veronique Tanaka

I wouldn't want to recreate this and have it deleted again - what else do I need to include to give it the context to be expanded by someone who knows more about the artist? The information I have is from the catalogue and I haven't found much other information to add, but I thought a short article that could be expanded was acceptable? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by VilmaKaplan (talk • contribs) .

Michael Jackson

Self Referencing Wiki

You seem to have deleted the page I was writing. I put a hang-on on it as per instructions, I take it you either didn't see it or disregarded it.

The page may have been delete-worthy for some reason; it was not, however, patent nonsense. I do not know whether you understood it; perhaps you considered it to facile for inclusion, or perhaps it seemed at first glance to be nonsensical. I don't know exactly what you thought, and so I ask you to justify the deletion of the article.

By the way, I hope I am using this talk page correctly. If I am not, please forgive.

..removed my signature upon seeing my email address so prominently displayed, gotta go fix that..

Gooch Assassins has a valid place here

Do not delete something just because you are ignorant of its importance or existence. This is a free encyclopedia, and GA is a well known group of friendly players. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Gaarr (talk • contribs) .

Some userboxen

I'm a little crazy

This user helped nominate Yanksox for adminship. Yeah, they know, pick a number and wait in line.

Does WIkipedia Condone Gratuitous Lawyer Bashing?

problems sorting out wikipedia's cat

I'm having problems sorting out that whistle register category. After adding hundreds of fact tags to original research statements as you proposed and removing singers from the category one by one who are not sourced as having the ability (over 100 actually), a user is now rv'ing hundreds of changes [2]. Can you stop this, it is incredibly frustrating to have someone put back hundreds of unsourced statements and original research items on living person's biographies talk pages --I'll bring the food 15:27, 4 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

This user doesn't seem to understand that I only reverted his changes to others comments on talk pages. I think it's been cleared up by now. — getcrunk what?! 16:43, 4 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'm very glad if it's been cleared up. However, let me be quite clear in case there is any residual problem. Non-negotiable wiki policy is VERIFY. This means that any material has to be referenced by a reliable source. Comments on talk pages are not a reliable source. Any editor has the right to remove any material from an article (or a category) that is not so referenced, if that editor so chooses. It is up to the person wanting to include it to provide the reference. If someone reinstates material, knowing that it has been removed because it is not referenced, they are violating wiki policy and may have editor privileges withdrawn by being blocked. In the case of this particular list, this can be taken as a final warning, although one which I hope is unnecessary. Happy editing! Tyrenius 20:39, 4 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I hope that we are now all clear on the issue of verify with respect to living people's bios. However can I just ask for confirmation that Original Research in talk pages is rather run-of-the-mill, and it is better to ask someone for references than to slap {fact} tags on them? LinaMishima 21:51, 4 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

This is, as you say, run-of-the-mill. It is also in my observation one of the biggest causes of disputes and waste of time in article writing. People use up reams of writing arguing about opinions. To make a suggestion for a lead which might be useful is one thing. To bang on about whether such and such is better than such and such without providing any verifiable references (and this often happens) is effectively disruptive behaviour, albeit for sincere but misguided intentions. I feel this issue needs to be addressed and sometimes editors brought into focus about wiki policies. Fact tags can give a sharp focus here and I know of no reason why they should not be used, if an editor thinks they will be effective. Tyrenius 22:12, 4 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hmm, an interesting point. In general, I get the impression that {fact} tags on talk pages are discouraged, but I certainly have to agree that, if an argument isn't reaching any conclusion but is still ongoing, then {fact} tags will act as an apropriate "Oi!". Personally I think more people need to be encouraged to play the "verify it!" game - it can be quite enlightening to try and find references! LinaMishima 22:26, 4 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Would You Be Interested in...

...Acting as a conduit between myself and Chadbryant with the express goal of brokering a peace between the two of us? I would like nothing more than for Chadbryant to consider me not an antagonist, but just another editor in the wider scope of Wikipedia. I sincerely believe that we are not enemies, but fellow men working toward the same goals: Knowledge and truth. Linden Arden 01:19, 5 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

This user's consistent posting of harassing messages on my talk page betrays his new-found willingness to co-exist. I see no reason to believe that his behaviour and attitude have changed in the last 72 hours. - Chadbryant 02:03, 5 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Linden Arden has tried this tactic before, and not long after returned to his usual harassment. This problem has existed long before you were given admin powers. It is an abuse of myself and the policy of "assume good faith" to accept without question that this individual is doing anything but play the system for his own amusement when he has an established history. - Chadbryant 03:09, 5 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

A second opinion

Hi Tyrenius, I don't know if you've noticed but this guy, Michael Fratangelo, is showing up all over articles Matisse, Van Gogh, Picasso, Kandinsky, and I am tempted to rollback them all. This looks like a vanity spamming by Fratangelo (talk · contribs)(see contribs) but I need a second opinion. What do you think? DVD+ R/W 02:05, 5 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It looks like someone reverted already. What is likely to be his IP, 67.171.70.67 (talk · contribs), has posted the same on Pollock, Cezanne, Franz Marc and others. It's like he's over reaching for notability. I'd still like to hear what you think. DVD+ R/W 02:28, 5 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Wasn't aware of this, but deleted the Van Gogh link anyway--R.P.D. 23:58, 5 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Talk page guidelines

Firstly, let me thank you for your changes to What talk pages may be used for - it now reads far better, is a lot more friendly and aproachable, and generally more encouraging of discussion. After all, healthy discussion is what we all want to see.

With respect to talk page hell, we run a risk of conflicting with refrain from editing others' comments without their permission. On the other hand, dealing with talk page hell via {fact} tag adding is sometimes the only way to make the point that an argument is stronger when substansiated. It certainly will be interesting to see what results of this debate! LinaMishima 04:01, 5 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Just to let you know, I do like the recent changes that you made. Yank sox 16:30, 5 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Talk page guidelines

Cheers. PS you forgot to sign your last post on Whistle talk. Tyrenius 14:18, 5 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I have? Where? --I'll bring the food 14:26, 5 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

(For the record - it was someone else. Tyrenius 00:35, 6 August 2006 (UTC) }[reply]

Admin-assistance required

Hi Tyrenius,

It hasn't been that long, but I could really use your help right now. The banned user Bonaparte is trolling the Romanian county articles, removing the Hungarian names (while using multiple open proxies). If you could semi-protect those pages, it would be great. Here they are:

Alba County, Arad County, Bihor County, Bistriţa-Năsăud County, Braşov County, Caraş-Severin County, Cluj County, Covasna County, Harghita County, Hunedoara County, Maramureş County, Mureş County, Satu Mare County, Sălaj County, Sibiu County, Timiş County.

Thanks! —Khoikhoi 18:34, 5 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, Aldux ~~took care~~ is taking care of it. Actually, since I've been asking him a lot of favors recently, would you be able to take care of the Târnava River article (please semi-protect it)? Thanks again. —Khoikhoi 20:35, 5 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I noticed. I meant to say, "he is taking care of it". You can protect the pages if you want, but he's almost there. —Khoikhoi 20:51, 5 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Appreciation

Would it be completely wrong for me to pledge my undying love for you? :-) Thanks for all your assistance, Tyrenius, I am so appreciative. (And please accept my apologies for my role in the escalation.) Congirl 23:32, 5 August 2006 (UTC)Congirl[reply]

If only I put it in the right spot, huh? Really, a star seems so slight in comparison for your efforts. I'll offer undying love as well :-)

Get in line! All the girls love Tyrenius, he's a hero to girls everywhere! Sarah Ewart (Talk) 04:16, 6 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

		The Editor's Barnstar
		This is awarded to Tyrenius for tireless enforcement of Wikipedia policy and restoring the reputation of a much appreciative living person. My hero! Congirl 00:19, 6 August 2006 (UTC) Congirl[reply]

Hammer time

Yeah, I know. I got stuck and was taking a break from it. I'll go back to it soon. By the way, I think you should consider changing Werdnabot to archive more frequently. Sarah Ewart (Talk) 04:19, 6 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hello

Please take a look at my recent contributions, I have been reverting people all day. Will you please warn Myke from the whistle register to stop vandalising the articles as it has crossed over misinformed to edit warring and I am not willing to waste my time on it.--I'll bring the food 14:01, 6 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You've got a Thank you card, dear T! ;)

Open your card!

Wikipedia talk:Talk page guidelines

Tyrenius, thanks for drawing attention on my talk page to the sock-puppet removal issue. My edit [3] was not in response to the posting that preceded it, but an independent new section. However, I think you subsequently realised this and reinstated my posting — thanks for that. -- JimR 06:09, 7 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Response, re: Robert Cresanti

Man, copyright rules make my head hurt. It looks like text from government websites is okay--see here. I got a bit over-zealous with the db noms, I guess. Sorry! --Merope 20:43, 7 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

5 more years + 1 split

Dear Tyrenius, may I have your eye for the Vincent van Gogh chronology? I would like to have the years 1850, 1851, 1852, 1859, and 1891, too. Furthermore, a split in "Notes" and "References" would be welcome. Thank you, --R.P.D. 22:40, 7 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Burnout

Hi there, you gave me some good advice before, so I was wondering if you could spare some more -- is there a way to avoid wikiburnout? I feel drained recently, especially with an article i've been working on, Edmonton Oilers in the 2006 Stanley Cup Playoffs, being considered to be merged after all I did to expand to it.

I've had around 300 edits over the past week or two, is there a way to stop feeling so frustrated, like i'm heading towards something significant here? Attic Owl 00:51, 8 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your perspective my friend, it's good to know that there's someone out there when times are tough. Please let me know if I can assist you in the future to repay you for your knowledge. Attic Owl 13:33, 8 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Very New User

Heh, I guess i'm wise beyond my years, er, edits :-) Thanks again for all your help. Attic Owl 14:08, 8 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Robert Neuman

You deleted a stub article, Robert Neuman. However, I have since found some information suggesting that the article can be salvaged. Could you please restore it and add http://www.fsu.edu/~arh/people/faculty/Neuman/ as an external link? The information on that page (including his book and the university from which he graduated) ought to be enough to establish notability. Here is the citation for the book:

Neuman, Robert (Robert Michael). Robert de Cotte and the perfection of architecture in eighteenth-century France / Robert Neuman. Chicago : University of Chicago Press, 1994. xviii, 262 p. : ill. ; 25 cm. ISBN 0226574377 Regards, TruthbringerToronto (Talk | contribs) 11:30, 8 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Shapiro

Okay, let me have another look at it in the morning. I'll see if I can dig up some references on the philanthropy (it's after 10:30 pm here and I'm a bit tired to do it tonight). Thanks, Mr T. :) Sarah Ewart (Talk) 12:35, 8 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

How nice: [4] Sarah Ewart (Talk) 12:44, 8 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Prof.Magnestormix

The user User:Prof.Magnestormix appears determined to ignore the due process that is now being executed on the whistle register catagory. He left the following message on my talk page. Please could you take a look?[5] They have had three warnings now, and I certainly do not feel that the above accusations are at all helpful to me. Rather than issuing another warning myself, I would prefer if a somewhat third party takes a look - I may be too involved. LinaMishima 16:27, 8 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Response from Pubuman

This was just in response to what was/is previously posted there, I did not come up with the heading, I simply replied to what posters were saying.Pubuman 20:07, 8 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Like I said I was simply replying to what others had posted under the same title, I didn't regard it as vandalism, I will be careful with my posts in the future. Thanks for helping me improve my wikitiquette :-) Pubuman 20:11, 8 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ah I see, no problem what-so-ever, thanks for keeping an eye out and taking the time out to explain stuff, I'll be more careful nevertheless. Pubuman 20:14, 8 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Will do, and of course no threats lol... such things never really get you anywhere, apart from truck-loads of abuse, I will try to find neutral sources and make claims based on such, hopefully to improve things over there. Thanks again and good luck to you!Pubuman 20:17, 8 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

hehe thanks ... keep up the good work. Pubuman 20:19, 8 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

63.23.13.114

I see you've been cleaning up after this so-far vandal-only account. Well done. Please let me know if there's any more trouble and I'll block it. Tyrenius 20:45, 8 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, Happy to help. I'll let you know if I notice anything more. --TeaDrinker 20:56, 8 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the tea! --TeaDrinker 21:03, 8 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

thank you for your input

at the Connor Barrett debacle. I've done a fair amount of wikipediaing and this is the first time this sort of thing has come up soi was not aware of the various ways to proceed. Certainly I could have reloaded the article, but that did not seem to be the wikipedian way. Anyway, you seem to be interested in art and you seem to be in England - so - I am trying to locate where a sculptor named Mitzi Solomon Cunliffe, who created, among things, the BAFTA AWard is. I believe that she is in some kind of a care facility, but still alive. Of course before writing an article about her i need to see how this Barrett thing is resolved. Carptrash 01:11, 9 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I am enjoying your William Redgrave and will trade you my Caspar Buberl for it. I'll touch up Barrett a bit too. Carptrash 01:41, 9 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ahhh . . .. footnotes. When i started at wikipedia i was told NOT to use them - or at least that's how i remember it. Still, it is not surprising since some folks do post some outrageous crap. I'll check out Vincent now. Carptrash 02:16, 9 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

well I probably will not go back and footnote my past, but . . ..... what does a crash course in footnoting look like now? there must be a guide not far away? Carptrash

Thanks. I am no wizard when it comes to figuring out codes but I have discovered that looking at a good example - William Redmond will do nicely, thank you - is the easiest for me. If this storm outside does not get worse I might try a few at Connor Barrett. Carptrash 03:01, 9 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

That was fast. I obviously used the wrong permission tag since I have permission from the copyright holder to use it here. You know, I think I'll just call it a night, let what ever happen, happen. Carptrash 03:11, 9 August 2006 (UTC) I'll come back later and try again. And yes, William Redgrave it is.[reply]

Thanks for your continued support at Connor Barrett. I have discovered that I am much better at starting these things than I am at finishing them off. You have given the article a nice polish that will likely make it immune from too much future damage. Carptrash 16:02, 9 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Eiras (Producer)

Re. your comments on my talk page: yes, I understand that {{db-recreated}} doesn't apply to targets of speedy deletion, but in this case the editor recreated the article with the exact (or nearly exact) same content and I was pretty sure that we were also dealing with a WP:AUTO violation. I took a shortcut; if I went over the line I do apologize. I'll apologize to the editor in question, if you'd like. VoiceOfReason 03:45, 9 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'm on the "front line?" Woo hoo! :) If you don't think an apology is necessary I'll just stay quiet and see what he does... I know we're not supposed to bite but I have a terrible time complying with WP:AGF. VoiceOfReason 03:54, 9 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks much for the tips. A few days of New Pages patrol can turn a man bitter and make him question the essential goodness of humankind; I need to remember to keep my cool. On that subject, I greatly respect you as a Wikipedia admin, and I wouldn't mind some feedback on how I'm doing. Most of my edits these days have been to speedy, prod, or AfD articles I see as unworthy, and I'd like to know if I'm being too quick on the trigger or too harsh or not harsh enough or what. If you've got time. VoiceOfReason 04:34, 9 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I can't thank you enough for taking the time to give me your helpful feedback. I'll refer to it often as I try to be a better Wikipedian. VoiceOfReason 16:41, 9 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I Found a way

I got a nice laugh out of your edit summary as to why the I Found a way article shouldn't be speedied (and I'm sure the humor wasn't intentional). Since I can't see what those old articles look like, I can only imagine what they look like if that 2 sentence stub qualifies as beating out "different inferior content". :) Metros232 04:12, 9 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Cleveland County Arkansas Officials

Thanks, :) Dlohcierekim 14:50, 9 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Edit 'conflict'

Hi Trenius,

No edit conflict there - you just inserted above my comments [6]. :-)

Regards, Ben Aveling 23:20, 9 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I see what you mean.

Catch you later, Ben Aveling 01:55, 11 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

User:TruthCrusader & Threats of Legal Action

Allow me to bring this to your attention. I do believe this could be a violation of WP:LEGAL. - Chadbryant 08:05, 10 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

User:65.31.100.170

Hello again. It seems you've became my pet admin for dealing with troublesome users :P Anyways, although User:65.31.100.170 has made some useful edits, their means of interacting with other people leaves a lot to be desired, with what appears to be quite a number of personal attacks. He hasn't recieved any warnings about this behaviour, despite having been doing it for a number of days now. This leaves me unsure as to which level of warning would be appropriate. For various reasons I don't feel able to appropriately try and handle this right now, but this problem user does need dealing with.

Thanks for all your help, LinaMishima 13:45, 10 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

They replied on my talk page (it's up near the top, though), thanking me, and appologising. I feared I might have done overkill, but they said they appreciated the careful explainations and including some examples of good edits. I shall have to remember that for the future! Thanks for the suggestion! LinaMishima 18:04, 10 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Oh my! Was I that bad? lol, well I deserved it. Anyway, thank you! I will follow all the helpful advice you've given me. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 65.31.100.170 (talk • contribs) .

No offense but that user didn't do anything wrong. I think LinaMishima was being a troublemaker —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 64.149.204.158 (talk • contribs) 22:47, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

If you continue with posts and edit summaries as here, on Yanksox's talk page, and the trouble-making post above, you will be blocked. I saw the posts in question and LinaMishima was entirely correct. Tyrenius 22:24, 10 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

thank you for your contributions to my site and comments. psyche!

Vyomesh

Would you protect this guy for me please? Thanks - CrazyRussian talk/email 18:44, 10 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. - CrazyRussian talk/email 18:54, 10 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Just Responding

Wow, thank you for your comments on my page Tyrenius. I guess being civil did pay off getting such a nice comment like that. I guess I was going off of some of the other comments I tend to see on wikipedia. In some discussion talk pages, there's some rather abrasive remarks going back and forth. But I learned that it won't pay off. I will get that user name. P.S. You're a great adminn —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 65.31.100.170 (talk • contribs) .

Smile

Æon ^{Insane Ward} has smiled at you! Smiles promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling to someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Smile to others by adding {{subst:smile}}, {{subst:smile2}} or {{subst:smile3}} to their talk page with a friendly message. Happy editing!

Æon ^{Insane Ward} 20:10, 10 August 2006 (UTC) [reply]

Thank you for the Barnstar!

Thank you, Tyrenius! Coming from someone as established and active as yourself, this really means a lot! Letting it get to my head for a few minutes whilst eating - as after then, I've references to hunt down!

All I need to figure out now is how to do the editing needed to properly lay-out my user page! :P LinaMishima 01:16, 11 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks from me as well! The last day on Wiki has been very trying, so I really appreciated it. :) Sarah Ewart (Talk) 02:26, 11 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I just sent you an email... Sarah Ewart (Talk) 03:20, 11 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Heeeee! You rock :) Thanks for the work on my user page - whilst you were doing that, I was off inspecting the code for other peoples' pages! I think I got a good idea about it now, and with your help I certainly will be able work on this myself now :) Thank you again! LinaMishima 04:23, 11 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

They do, don't they? But that's half the fun, I guess ^^ Sadly I really shouldn't work on that now, it's 5:30am here, I should go to bed o.O (I have some excuse, I work 5pm-midnight). I'll work on it tomorrow, though, and let you know when it's up to shape :) Oh, and thanks for the painting! ;) LinaMishima 04:28, 11 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Mr Hammer

I can't access the Rochester Democrat and Chronicle website. For some reason it doesn't like either of my browsers. Do you think it is appropriate to site Shapiro's website? It's a primary source. Sarah Ewart (Talk) 04:42, 11 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

No, I hadn't accessed the articles. I had done an article search there but I hadn't actually tried to retrieve any articles. When I tried earlier, I kept getting error messages about my browsers (I tried 2 different ones). I'll try to word it as you suggest and maybe expand on it later if I can get hold of better refs. Ty, Sarah Ewart (Talk) 05:01, 11 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for posting your template. Not sure if I explained this properly or not but on Talk:Michael Ignatieff, I moved comments. Specifically, I moved this [7] to the talk pages of the users involved because it had nothing to do with the subject of the article and I believed it was being used to escalate the fighting. The user had posted it in numerous different places. Sarah Ewart (Talk) 05:09, 11 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Got them, thankyou very much. They look great and I really appreciate you getting them. And thanks for the clarification regarding the talk page comments. Sarah Ewart (Talk) 06:03, 11 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thankyou for your intervention. Much relief. :) Sarah Ewart (Talk) 06:29, 11 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Chadbryant

User Chadbryant has falsely reported me for a 3RR violation (while committing one of his own), has reverted correct information on multiple pages without a helpful explanation, has gotten an admin to semi-block a page to protect his reversion, and has sent multiple messages to me misattributing Wikipedia rules. He has cited a problem with my anonymous IP identity, but I believe his behavior of the past week is evidence that having a Wikipedia account does not preclude harassment or mischief. I've written to you because your post appeared on the WWE Undisputed Championship talk page in which your questions were dispensed with in an identically curt fashion.

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:WWE_Undisputed_Championship&action=edit&section=12

Any help, advice, or administrative oversight you can bring to this matter will be very much appreciated.

—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.215.152.197 (talk • contribs) . Tyrenius 09:30, 11 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

If he's falsely reported you, then obviously it will be dismissed. If he's committed one of his own, then you can report him. If an admin has taken an action, then it's the admin's responsibility. He may have been to the point, but not uncivil. So the viable complaints are:

has reverted correct information on multiple pages without a helpful explanation,
has sent multiple messages to me misattributing Wikipedia rules
He has cited a problem with my anonymous IP identity

Perhaps you'd like to provide me with diffs to substantiate each of these points. Tyrenius 09:40, 11 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Re: Articles for deletion/Connor Barrett

No problem at all. Somehow I revisited the page and things just looked confusing for those who may have followed my comment, so a few indents later .... Anyway, thanks for the note and happy editing. --Cactus.man ✍ 09:27, 11 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Another question

If someone puts a page protection notice on their user page when it isn't protected, should it be removed? Sarah Ewart (Talk) 10:55, 11 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your help there. And thankyou for that second award! I feel rather spoilt! :) Sarah Ewart (Talk) 11:07, 11 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Open Proxies

Hi Tyrenius, open proxy detection is not simple... You have to understand OP's and how they work. Feel free to join if you think you can handle it :P, you do get "scan tools" which make it easy, but u can see on the project page, theyre are several 'inconclusive evidence'.. ttyl --Deon555|talk|e|Review Me! :D 11:47, 11 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ignatieff

Hi Tyrenius. As one of the editors caught up in the current Ignatieff conflict, I'm doing my best to avoid escalating the situation. So rather than respond to what I view as trolling, I'm going to link to it and let you decide what to do. The latest contributions of User:Ottawaman, found here [8], is what I consider to be a pretty stereotypical edit for that user. It's not a direct personal attack, nor is it libel, but it's clearly unconstructive and unhelpful. Just let me know how I should respond, if at all. Thanks! -- 72.139.185.19 11:50, 11 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry. Should have checked the time stamps more carefully. -- 72.139.185.19 12:12, 11 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

However, these edits, by one of User:Ottawaman's IPs, is most definately after your warnings. [9] -- 72.139.185.19 12:17, 11 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The comment I discussed with you earlier has been put back into the talk page [10]. Sarah Ewart (Talk) 12:15, 11 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry for the dupe. My post is the same as Sarah's. 72.139.185.19 12:18, 11 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Post removed and user blocked for 24 hours. If they appear again, please revert them as vandalism, but make sure you leave me a note with the diff each time you do, so I can block the user. Thanks. Tyrenius 12:32, 11 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, Mr T. :) Sarah Ewart (Talk) 12:38, 11 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The talk page is now semi-protected. Tyrenius 12:51, 11 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thankyou, that's fantastic. Sarah Ewart (Talk) 12:56, 11 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It's fantastic for everyone who wishes to see policy followed and harmonious editing towards a NPOV article. Tyrenius 12:57, 11 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I can't post to the talk page to respond to your question about the Talk:Michael_Ignatieff/Comments subpage, but if you look under the the WikiProject Biography template (at the top of the Talk:Michael_Ignatieff page), you'll see the link from "This article has not yet received a rating on the Project's quality scale. Please rate the article and then leave a short summary here..." -- 72.139.185.19 18:17, 11 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Help needed

Hello Tyrenius. I needed some admin help and saw that you were online. Can you please delete the page User:Herr.Schultze. I created the user page by mistake by welcoming him there instead of his talk page. Thanks. - Aksi_great (talk - review me) 14:13, 11 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I was wondering where I had first come across you. Then I remembered this. Glad too see this. - Aksi_great (talk - review me) 14:18, 11 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

No problem with me. I don't he would even notice it. But it should be a good reminder for me that mistakes can be made even after spending so much time here. I made 2 mistakes in that welcome. Which tells me I should take a break. Thanks. Have a nice day. - Aksi_great (talk - review me) 14:24, 11 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Extremely sorry. I missed your RfA due to exams. Returned from break on July 7. That's the only excuse I can give. Glad to see that the user page has been deleted - ("deleted, accidentally created, creator req's deletion"). That covers up 1 of my mistakes. Ha ha. - Aksi_great (talk - review me) 14:30, 11 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

And I don't even know which part of the world you belong too. That's why The World Is Flat. Check out Portal:India and WP:INWNB for some nice things about India. - Aksi_great (talk - review me) 14:46, 11 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Lola

I won't reply to you about Lola on the Banksy page! I keep meaning to have a go at editing Lola, but I don't know where to start. The song tells a story of a young man's coming to terms with his sexuality through an encounter with a transvestite; it has some great characterisation, with both "Lola" and the protagonist coming to life in the words; it is a classic example of irony, with the listener knowing the secret that the man in the song is missing; and it is all accomplished in a 3 minute song. Work of genius or what! Trouble is, none of that really comes out in the current article. Bluewave 15:20, 11 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Meddling

Why did you feel the need to meddle with an issue that was already resolved? I could point you to the NPA policy, considering you had already had your say, which I took into account, after which you continued to peruse my contributions in an attempt to further harass me. I'd also like to point out the fact that I do many contributions on my non-static IP, when im not signed in, and I also do many contributions at school and the library. Calling me inexperienced was a personal attack which served no purpose. There are much nicer way to say things. Javsav 15:56, 11 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

User:TruthCrusader violates WP:NPA

See [11]. - Chadbryant 16:13, 11 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

User:Linden Arden

Hi, it's me again. Care to take a look at this? It certainly doesn't look like the work of someone interested in mending fences, especially when you've already told him to back off. - Chadbryant 16:47, 11 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You have expressed in the past that you wish/want to be kept informed regarding this user's conduct. I am merely doing so, and jusging by the post above, this user needs to be dealt with in a timely manner. - Chadbryant 17:07, 11 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I apologize if my comment was worded poorly. All I meant to imply was that no one could possibly confuse the level-headed Chadbryant of Wikipedia with the quarrelsome and obnoxious "Chad Bryant" of rec.sport.pro-wrestling. This "Chad Bryant" is obviously and unequivocally unrelated to Chadbryant, most likely created by a nemesis of Chadbryant with the purpose of reflecting badly upon him in the eyes of Wikipedians. Cheers. Linden Arden 16:59, 11 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I took it that that was your intent, and I am pleased that you think so highly of the real Chadbryant. I trust this will lead to much greater respect for judgements he makes over future edits. I take it then that you will support his decision to include an external links to rec.sport.pro-wrestling for example? This does require an answer please. Tyrenius 17:08, 11 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I may be wrong here, but I believe that I have never taken a stance regarding external links on rec.sport.pro-wrestling. At this point, I am not informed enough on the issue to place my support behind Chadbryant or anyone else. However, knowing that this issue is important to Chadbryant, and also knowing that he is a well-respected editor here, I will most certainly investigate the situation posthaste. Good afternoon. Linden Arden 17:20, 11 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Spamlinks

You said: "I saw you'd reverted some spamlinks [12] (and blocked the user). I checked some out, which were sets of photos, and thought they were rather a good selection of unique images, not the run of the mill stuff. I wonder if you think some might be worth reinstating?" Tyrenius 18:39, 11 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It's a little more complex than that. I agree that the images are of fairly high quality. The problem is that the person adding the external links is almost certainly Adam Bielawski himself. The user has been warned several times about this behaviour but is continuing. As a general rule, adding a link to your own site is inappropriate. Adding a link to the same site to many articles is inappropriate. And image galleries are generally not considered acceptable for external links. It appears to me that the user is simply using Wikipedia for advertising. Now, I could well be wrong but I thought you might want to know why the block was issued. --Yamla 18:48, 11 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the explanation. I wasn't querying the block, because I understand he can't be allowed to run rampant. My concern was that we may, in the process, be losing good links which would be of value to readers. I'm not even interested in the musicians, but I found myself fascinated by the sequence of poses he had captured. I wasn't aware of the aversion to image galleries (it's not prohibited in WP:EL, but I guess it could be one of those things "in the air" as it were). However, it seems to me we could be cutting off the nose to spite the face here, especially with Wiki's current problems of having on-site images. I would have thought this made a stronger reason for external links to good images. Most photographers with unique images of that kind would be seeking to restrict their use, so I'm thinking maybe we should be working with Bielawski (assuming its him) so that a neutral editor could decide on inclusion or not in each case. Put it this way, if I'd seen the gallery myself first, I would have chosen to link to it. Tyrenius 19:16, 11 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Likewise, if I had seen the gallery and the magazine articles first, they would have probably been added to the article. On initially seeing the links, I investigated them, and found them to be quite reasonable additions (if not actually worked into the article). I decided to help remove them, however, on the principle that it appeared to be self-promotion. On seeing Tyrenius re-add one, I checked them again, and had to agree that they had value. As I have enough editing projects ongoing, I decided to leave the re-adding of the links to the judgement of other editors. LinaMishima 19:40, 11 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not currently aware of the problems with wiki having on-site images, other than the normal copyright and licencing ones. Could you please enlighten me, I'm curious now LinaMishima 19:40, 11 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

That is exactly the problem, getting PD or GFDL images, so recourse has to be had often to "fair use" of copyright images, but this is undesirable for the long term goals of the project. Tyrenius 19:54, 11 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

PS I hadn't seen any magazine articles, only galleries of photos of a musician doing a live performance in different poses. Tyrenius 19:55, 11 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

He added a number of links to [unrated magazine, which he states on his photography webpage as being his 'pet project', and lists him as being the online editorial director. LinaMishima 20:18, 11 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'm just responding here and will monitor your discussion page for a while so no need to copy and paste back to my discussion page as well. I agree with everything you are saying here. The problem with linking to image galleries is that virtually every one of them contains copyright violations. Images from magazines, that sort of thing. We are not permitted to link to known copyright infringers due to contributionary (spelling?) infringement claims. Additionally, it is generally fairly easy to do a simple Google search to get the images. Clearly, this particular site is a different matter. High-quality images that seem to be free of copyright infringement worries. As mentioned, my concern is that the images were being linked to very many articles in a manner that tripped my WP:SPAM warnings. I would be happy to have this user contribute to the Wikipedia and would love to work out a way for this to happen. --Yamla 19:33, 11 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I have dropped him an email and will try to see if we (that is, he and Wikipedia generally) can work together. If you wish, drop me an email and I'll CC you in the discussions. I'd love your contributions to this matter as well. --Yamla 19:35, 11 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, good idea! LinaMishima 19:40, 11 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for monitoring. Of course, I quite agree that links to sites with copyright infringements constitute contributory infringement. The point about Google is that Wiki is meant to be a one-stop shop essentially — it's all there on the page for you (including the links) if at all possible. The standard format for people in the poster's position is to put their material on the talk page for other editors to decide. However, I recall a case where someone did that to a lot of talk pages and got blocked. Then there was a ruckus, because they'd followed the guidelines and still got blocked. To be honest, I think he's offering us a fantastic resource in a time of image deprivation. If the images were as good and as targeted to the subject as the ones I saw, I would be happy for every relevant article to have a suitable link, unless there was a particular reason not to (such as the availability of even better images). However, I think you did the right thing in calling it into question, so that we have a chance to make a considered decision. I'm not concerned in the slightest about his motivations (maybe self-promotion). My only consideration is whether it will be to wiki's advantage to have these links. He might even be prepared to release one from each set under GFDL, and we could link to the rest on the image. That wouldn't of course be a binding condition. I would just see that as benefiting the project twice over. I think the crux of the matter is that a neutral editor (or editors) must be in the position of making the decision, perhaps in collaboration with the provider. Tyrenius 19:51, 11 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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 No offense but that user didn't do anything wrong. I think LinaMishima was being a troublemaker <small>—The preceding [[Wikipedia:Sign your posts on talk pages|unsigned]] comment was added by [[User: 64.149.204.158| 64.149.204.158]] ([[User talk: 64.149.204.158|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/ 64.149.204.158|contribs]]) 22:47, 10 August 2006   (UTC{{{3|}}})</small>
 :If you continue with posts and edit summaries as [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Cholmes75&diff=prev&oldid=68896194 here], on Yanksox's talk page, and the trouble-making post above, you will be blocked. I saw the posts in question and [[User:LinaMishima|LinaMishima]] was entirely correct. [[User:Tyrenius|Tyrenius]] 22:24, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
+thank you for your contributions to my site and comments. psyche!
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