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File:Oldkelling.jpg

Hi, Are you sure it needs reducing more, it's already only 29K? Regards--palmiped |  Talk  18:42, 5 February 2017 (UTC)

Yes, the guildeline (unless there is some specific need - e.g. important item corrupted on reduction) is 100,000 pixels - byte size is irrelevant (current image is 648956 pixels). I would also state that as the article stands it could fail No.8 in WP:NFCC - One cannot just put a non-free image in, it needs some discussion around it to be able to stay (the only exception is when a non-free has to be used in an infobox template). Given the proposed date, I would think a little more investigation should be done to try to find an exact date and possibly an author - and thereby try to get it into a suitable PD category. Ronhjones  ^(Talk) 19:25, 5 February 2017 (UTC)

Question about size of a non-free image

Can you please explain why you added Template:Non-free reduce to File:Cook's Timetable various covers 1949-2010.jpg? The overall size of the image is irrelevant, because the image shows eight separate items (laid out by hand on a table), not one item, and each cover is small and very low-resolution (even somewhat out of focus) — even more than most other non-free magazine and newspaper covers I have seen in use as non-free images for Wikipedia articles about publications. I try to be very careful about copyright, and I have tagged several files on Commons for deletion for that reason (not an enjoyable activity, but necessary), and I am puzzled about this one, as this eight-cover image seems to be within policy, as far as I can see. SJ Morg (talk) 05:28, 6 February 2017 (UTC)

@SJ Morg: If you wish to have 8 separate images then that would be your choice. As it stands it is a single non-free image that is way too big. I agree it might not work at the current guidelines, but there is still plenty of room for some reduction without significant loss of detail. It will need to be analysed manually to get the best result. I'll tag accordingly Ronhjones  ^(Talk) 15:27, 6 February 2017 (UTC)

Having 8 separate images makes no sense to me. The file's main value lies in its being a comparison of 8 related items in one image. Where are you finding a policy that indicates that the original version (now reduced by you, I see) was "too big"? Is there a standard that specifies maximum dimensions or number of kilobytes for non-free images? I cannot find one, but if you can point me to one, please do. SJ Morg (talk) 05:31, 7 February 2017 (UTC)

@SJ Morg: WP:NFCC#3b says low resolution - resolution in WP terms is also the size - you can use it in the form of "fileres:>684" in the advanced search box - 684 is your current image - it's the square root of the pixel count (no idea who worked that out). Also we have a guideline (it's not mandatory, but works fine for 99+% of images, and it is what the automated bot will do) at Wikipedia:Non-free_content#Image_resolution where fileres will be 314 for 100,000 pixels. Which is why I did the manual reduce as I did evaluate the potential bot reduce and agreed that it was too severe. Ronhjones  ^(Talk) 21:45, 10 February 2017 (UTC)

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• The block log sometimes showed blocks as being much longer than they were. This has now been fixed. [1]

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• Wikimedia pages will now be better at showing pictures when you share them on social media. The descriptions will be different too. You can see an example of before and after. [2]
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19:46, 6 February 2017 (UTC)

{{non-free reduce}}

Good Afternoon. I was looking at some of the images you tagged with non-free reduce (nice job tagging by the way) and wanted to let you know that you tagged a number of .svg (scalable vector graphics) file with the template (such as File:Bundesliga logo (2002, 3D).svg, File:Eisbären Berlin Logo.svg, File:Bioversity logo.svg). As SVGs can be rendered at any size with no loss of fidelity due to the image being determined by a fixed set of shapes (as opposed to a fixed set of pixels in jpeg or png files) I'm not sure we need to tag them for reduction. While NFCC requires non-free images be displayed in articles at the lowest practical resolution their is no technological restriction to what size SVGs can be displayed at, e.g. a 20 x 20 stored svg is identical to a 2000 x 2000 stored svg, as they are dynamically rendered at size when inserted in an article. So while downsampling a non-free jpeg is necessary under WP:NFCC to limit its size it appears that doing the same to a SVG may be redundant. The SVGs you tagged were hardly the majority of what you tagged but I wanted to let you know if you weren't already aware of the technical capability of vector graphics to scale infinitely. Thanks, I hope you have a great day, Mifter (talk) 21:06, 6 February 2017 (UTC)

@Mifter: I know, they end up in here - Category:Wikipedia non-free file size reduction requests for manual processing - probably about 4% on the images I've tagged. Not much we can do as you say, but I change the page size when I get some spare time. Method at User:Ronhjones/SVGreduce - so the default view on opening the image page is a small image. Nothing more possible. Maybe we should insist non-free svg are changed to jpg, so we can have a small image....! Ronhjones  ^(Talk) 21:18, 6 February 2017 (UTC)

P.S. Here is an example - File:4MK logo 2016.svg Ronhjones  ^(Talk) 21:21, 6 February 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for the method, I'll have to tackle some of them when I get some time. Non-free svgs are a bit of a quandary as low resolution and svg are nonsequiters. Have a good one, Mifter (talk) 01:21, 7 February 2017 (UTC)

Belbin profile picture

Thanks for yours, sorry only just seen it. Picture is from author's web page and is listed as copyright free. See http://www.davidbelbin.com/downloads/

Nottsboy — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nottsboy (talk • contribs) 15:35, 8 February 2017 (UTC)

@Nottsboy: Restored and tidied up. Ronhjones  ^(Talk) 21:55, 8 February 2017 (UTC)

Cheers for that. Nottsboy (talk) 14:47, 9 February 2017 (UTC)

Sally Sweetland

Hi Ron, further to my email and comment, could you please tell me whether Ticket 2016121510000491 means I can edit the article to confirm Sally's death. I did edit it, but another user reverted it. Please see what I've written under your comment. The SSDI won't confirm her death for another year, so it seems silly to keep her listed as alive until then. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Sally_Sweetland --TrottieTrue (talk) 18:07, 10 February 2017 (UTC)

@TrottieTrue: I agree, but all pages have to be a consensus. I would add a ping to the other people on the talk page - they might have stopped watching it. Ronhjones  ^(Talk) 22:58, 10 February 2017 (UTC)

Glad you agree. I didn't know about a ping, but it must be what you've written above. As my changes got reverted almost instantly, one of the users there must be watching it. --TrottieTrue (talk) 03:14, 11 February 2017 (UTC)

File:Site plan of the Mackenzie Vaughan Hospital.jpg

Regarding this edit, I uploaded an image that was 25% of the original size, and it's difficult to read about half the text as it is (on my monitor, I can't read the lower right legend nor some of the labels on the diagram, and I can barely read the lower left legend). Reducing the resolution any more than I already have is going to make the image useless, in which case it may as well be deleted. Mindmatrix 00:42, 11 February 2017 (UTC)

@Mindmatrix: Agree. It's one of the few images that is unable to fit the non free guideline size of 100000 pixels. I changed the banner (it will help to stop me tagging it again!), also added to my list at User:Ronhjones/Non_Free_Reduce_Data#Contetsed_-_do_not_suggest_again - that is the total "odd" ones out of about 20,000 images tagged and reduced. Ronhjones  ^(Talk) 00:54, 11 February 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for updating it! Mindmatrix 13:25, 11 February 2017 (UTC)

Tech News: 2017-07

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• EventStreams is a new way to show activity on Wikimedia wikis. For now it works with the recent changes feed. It will do more things later. It will replace RCStream. Tools that use RCStream should move to EventStreams before 7 July. [6]

Problems

• The Firefox add-on Firefogg can cause problems with the Upload Wizard. This will not be fixed, because Firefox will not support Firefogg in the future. The Upload Wizard will no longer work with Firefogg. [7]
• Tool Labs and Wikimedia Labs databases will be under maintenance on 15 February. This will start at 17:00 (UTC) and last for about six hours. Some tools could have problems during or after this. [8]

Changes this week

• The TwoColConflict extension is a new way to solve edit conflicts. It makes it easier to copy and paste the relevant text to the text field. It will come to Meta and German Wikipedia this week. It is already available on MediaWiki.org. It will come to more wikis later. [9]
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18:06, 13 February 2017 (UTC)

User talk:Stanprog

Could you please unprotect user talk:Stanprog? 96.87.65.53 (talk) 23:31, 13 February 2017 (UTC)

It's not protected - it's not used. The user is only active on Bulgarian Wikipedia. All accounts are global, once you have a global name it's reserved on very Wikipedia until one visits that Wikipedia, at which point it becomes "attached" Ronhjones  ^(Talk) 23:35, 13 February 2017 (UTC)

I meant user talk:StanProg. 96.87.65.53 (talk) 23:38, 13 February 2017 (UTC)

You should ask the admin that protected the page user:Widr, as he will have more of the reasons for the protection. Ronhjones  ^(Talk) 23:40, 13 February 2017 (UTC)

You Made Me

DO NOT edit the You Made Me Album page. I have entered into a confidential settlement agreement with Josh Todd. Although the order and settlement are under court seal, I can tell you your edit violate that order and other copyrights. Do not edit gain please. Todd Meagher [email protected] — Preceding unsigned comment added by 47.185.22.124 (talk) 15:23, 14 February 2017 (UTC)

Removal of referenced content is vandalsim, and will always be reverted. Prove it or do what I said on User talk:Toddmeagher Ronhjones  ^(Talk) 15:42, 14 February 2017 (UTC)

I have contacted Wikipedia legal regarding your conduct I have also forwarded your information to my attorney in London and instructed him to pursue you for violation of my copyrights.

Todd Meagher