Talk:James Butler, 2nd Duke of Ormonde

Jacobite leanings

An IP clearly believes that James Butler did not have Jacobite leanings. This discussion thread is being opened to encourage discussion on the point and avoid edit-waring. Dormskirk (talk) 12:39, 2 March 2013 (UTC)

Whether he did or not is irrelevant. It is sufficient that the British government thought that he did for it to deserve mention in the article. Laurel Lodged (talk) 16:01, 2 March 2013 (UTC)

I dont believe that he had jacobite leaning. But wats interest me most is if he hade and Lord Stanhope had som grudge between them. And as I se it if you read behind the lines they had.

Ormonde made a very grave error of judgement he fled the country before hi was prosecuted. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.224.77.133 (talk) 16:37, 2 March 2013 (UTC)

SMS-speak? Has Wiki really been reduced to this? Laurel Lodged (talk) 16:44, 2 March 2013 (UTC)

I am also struggling to understand the SMS-speak. Please can you explain explicitly the nature of Lord Stanhope's grudge so we can consider whether it is relevant to the article. If we now accept that Butler was at least perceived by the British Government to have had jacobite leanings, then surely it was Lord Stanhope's job, as chief minister, to prosecute him? Dormskirk (talk) 19:28, 2 March 2013 (UTC)

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