Talk:Natasha Stott Despoja

That image of her is not very good. She has lost weight recently, and now looks much, much better - a babe in fact.

Someone please find a better picture!

Yeah! Although not as attractive as she was in her heyday, she's not bad for someone well into their fifth decade! --Jumbo 21:12, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

What are you talking about? My arithmetic makes her out to be 37.

She was born in the Sixties. --Surgeonsmate 02:25, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

And? 2006-1969=37, no matter what you try to do to the numbers. BigHaz 09:56, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

I think you missed it. She's well into her fifth decade! And her second century. Jumbo 04:49, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

Mediawatch

Whatshisface on mediawatch did a wondrful hatchet-job on NSD. "The only thing she has to offer to the public is her own carefully-managed fame." —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 152.91.9.242 (talk • contribs) .

"elected in her own right"

I can see why this wording was chosen. She was appointed to a Senate casual vacancy (i.e. without being elected by the voters), but later won a seat at the next half-Senate election. It is wrong to say that she was elected in her own right because votes in Senate elections are overwhelmingly "above the line" for the party.

This is a point that NSD herself raised when Meg Lees resigned from the Democrats and became an independent. She claimed that Lees' seat belonged to the Democrats, not Lees. --Surgeonsmate 03:47, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

FYI She did get in on more than a quota, in a half-Senate election, and she received over 20,000 below-the-line votes. Source: http://www.natashastottdespoja.democrats.org.au/biography/biography_Oct2005.pdf

Mark Hurd 06:08, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

photograph

I've replaced Whywhywhy's rather distant shot with a cropped version which shows Tash as more than just a pixel or two but which retains the character of the gathering. It should go on the left so that the subject faces into the article. Luckily the original image had enough pixels that I could do this digital zoom. I have not tagged this image with any copyright information as it isn't my image. BTW, thanks YYY for adding a shot of Tash in action. This is more in character with her than the rather staid official shot lifted from the APh site. --Surgeonsmate 22:15, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

payout

Twice revisions have sought to include the following details. On both occassions, it has been reverted. ``When wrapping up her 12-year Senate career at age 38, she will be eligible for a lifetime pension of $73,000 a year - adjusted each year for inflation.

Two attempts I've made to seek clarification (on 1 and 10 November 2006) have gone unanswered. [[1]] As such, I now wish to raise for discussion here the proposed addition to the article.

The current edition of The Weekend Australia Magazine (November 18-19) carries a weekly column by Susan Maushart. It begins: "Natasha Stott Despoja ... has made history once again by securing a world-record maternity leave benefit: an indexed payout of $73,000 per year, for life." [[2]]

As the sum in question has been repeatedly reported in the media, I propose the figure be added. However as I'm relatively new here, I am interested to hear if there are reasons why it should not be added to the article. Thanks -- MirDoc 03:30, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

It is compeltely irrelevant on this page; every single parliamentarian receives a similar payout (size depending on seniority, length of service, etc). It's inclusion here is simply due to papers playing a class war card and heaping shit upon pollies for the amount of money they get. If you're going to include anything on payouts, don't choose 'Tash because the media made a big deal of it, put it in a more appropriate and general location. michael ^talk 03:34, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

(replying to message on my talk page) The payment is still calculated by the same means as any other parliamentarian and it is entirely possible that a larger payout will occur in the future. So there is nothing truly unique or special about Natasha's and it deserves no mention on her page. michael ^talk 04:01, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

It does not matter how it is calculated. It is entirely relevant. Class war? How can pointing out the legal entitlements of the very upper middle class NSD have anything to do with clas war? It does not matter if it is unique or special. It matters if it is true and encyclopedic. It is true and I happen to think it is worthy of inclusion. Why do you feel otherwise? Lao Wai 15:04, 19 November 2006 (UTC)